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And covering up for President Trump. Let me just say how very, very dismaying and disappointing that the chief Law Enforcement officer of our country is going off the rails. I believe the attorney general of the United States of america believes he needs to protect the president of the United States and i think thats unfortunate. Paul lets bring in wall street journal columnist and Deputy Editor Dan Henninger and columnist, ki kim staussel. Really an explosion by the democrats when the a. G. Used the word spyinging but didnt we know surveillance had taken place because there was a fisa court eavesdropping permit allowed during the campaign. We knew that. Why the up roar over the word spying . There shouldnt be. This was bill barr reintroducing democrats to some basic terms. I mean, look, this is when he talked about spying, he is talking as you said about the surveillance warrant. We know that the fbi under Democratic Administration was watching a Republican Campaign and thats why he used the word he did. I think the question is whether or not that was as he said predicated, whether there was a legitimate reason, but also whether or not there was unauthorized surveillance. Meaning we know, for instance, that there were some contacts between people working for the fbi and the trump campaign, a human informant, prior to the official start of their Counter Intelligence investigation. Was that authorized . Was that warranted . Those are the things hes looking at. Paul hes also looking, kim, into i assume the degree to which the steele dose which we h we know was financed by the Clinton Campaign, what basis that provided for the fisa court warrant. Well, this is going to be one of the big questions, is whether or not the fbis origin story is in fact correct, because according to the fbi all along, they only went down this road when they found out that this campaign aide, george papadopoulos, said something in london about clintons. Mails. Theres a lot of reason to believe that there was the steele dossier in fact played a big role in this investigation, given that its opposition research, that raises a lot of red flags. Theres a lot we still dont know about what contacts might have happened well before that july 31st date when they started between, for instance, fusion gps, the fbi, what was going on early in the spring, thats what hes going to be looking at too. Paul fusion gps being the firm that Democrats Associated with the Clinton Campaign hired to get the steele dossier. Correct. We should also point out, paul, that what attorney general barr revealed was supposed to be a bombshell that hes going to look into the surveillance. This is not controversial information that he is describing. The New York Times, march 1st, 2017, it was their lead sentence, in the Obama Administrations last days, white house officials scrambled to spread information about russian efforts to undermine the president ial election and about possible contacts between associates of president elect donald j. Trump and the russians. One of the reasons, the time said, was to leave a clear trail of intelligence for government investigators. That story was picked up by politeco and msnbc. In february, the press began to report those stories, linking the allegations of russian activity between the trump campaign, the insinuation that there was an active relationship. Attorney general barr says he wants to find out how we got to the point of being concerned with russians disrupting our campaign. Everyone was concerned about that, tohe leap that they were in league with the president al campaign of donald trump. How did that happen . Paul of hillary clinton. The russians and donald trump. How did that happen. Thats what he wants to find out. Paul he mentioned other intelligence agencies or intelligence officials. I assume he means perhaps john brennan of the cia, perhaps James Clapper who was the director of National Intelligence inside the white house. Presumably that will be also looked at. Yeah, overall it was incredible ian couraging what he had to say about that testimony because it suggests bill barr has a deep understanding already of what needs to be investigated, what areas. And that this goes beyond the fbi. It does go to the broader Intelligence Community and i do think that john brennan at the cia and James Clapper, the dni director, played an enormous role in this, not just in terms of concocting this idea that dan is talking about, about the league between russia and trump but also in terms of maybe how some of this got out to the press as well too. Paul i think the uproar against this by the democrats and then echoed in a lot of the media is warning to barr dont go there, because youre going to pay a political price if you do. All right. When we come back, wikileaks founder Julian Assange coming one step closer to facing justice in the United States. Well take a closer look at the charges against him, next. Will it feel like the wheend of a journey . P working, or the beginning of something even better . When you prepare for retirement with pacific life, you can create a lifelong income. So you have the freedom to keep doing whatever is most meaningful to you. 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The single count indictment alleges that he engaged in a conspiracy with a former Army Intelligence specialist Chelsea Manning, to tr the 47yearold e who took refuge in the embassy in 2012 faces extradition to the United States where he faces up to five years in prison. Were back with Dan Henninger and kim staussal and mary ogrady. How strong do you think the indictment is . The indictment is narrow, based on a single charge, the charges that assange helped Chelsea Manning and Bradley Manning break into department of Defense Computers to obtain classified information and that he this is the specific thing that he helped them break the password. Now, if the Justice Department in fact has evidence that assange really did do that, then i think they have a pretty strong case. We just dont know what evidence they might have, whether they have sihave signals intelligenc, communication between the two of them. Theres a fine line between reporters who try to work sources, get information, thats one thing. But to actively participate in breaking the password for the department of defense, most highly classified computers would strike me as a crime. Paul assanges lawyer said he was trying to protect his source and in a way that would not have disclosed who manning was. Do you buy that . I think dan gets it specifically, which is whether they can prove that he actually helped break in. I mean, if physically someone came to you and said i can get you this information but can you help me break the lock or break the combination or something, of course that would be against the law. Paul and us a journalist would say no. Paul if you came to me and said paul, you know, i got this source, hes got a lot of information but ive got to help break into the pentagons thats the pest. Paul what would i say . I would say no. Its a little ironic, the Ecuadorian Embassy gave him a refuge in london and yet the ecuadorian president at the time was very hostile to the free press. All these people who were saying that hes a great champion of the free press, i think that thats a little dishonest. Paul kim, its interesting, they did not indict him using the espionage act which some people thought they might which would be for publishing secrets, so this isnt just like the pentagon papers case for publishing something that was classified. This is a little different. No, its completely not relevant. Its good news that the Justice Department didnt go down that road because it could have set some very worrisome precedents for the press. Obviously, we do want a free press. It has the ability at times, after considered judgment, to be able to put out information that they think is important for the publics view. This is instead focused as you said on the hacking and conspiracy to get into Government Computers so the press is not related and i think all journalism should be applauding that. Those comparisons are wrong. Paul the left and the right, though, dan, first the left held assange as a hero when he was releasing documents about the Afghanistan War and then the right during 2016 campaign started to champion wikileaks, donald trump saying i love wikileaks, when they released documents about the Clinton Campaign. Why are so many people treating him as a hero . Well, i think because theyre similar you mri consistent late simply conflating things. On one side, about the Clinton Campaign, paul, i think if youre a judge or if you were the Supreme Court taking a case like this, youre going to be very specific about the nature of the two things that assange was doing. On the one side, with the iraq and Afghanistan War, those were classified information, lives could have been put at risk, may have been put at risk, that is entirely different than simply releasing information related to a political campaign. As bad as one or the other might be or as good or helpful, there are two different kinds of things for them to be doing, i think thats what theyll focus on, not whether assange is a free press hero. I agree with that except that whether that would embarrass the government or not, if he had it legitimately, he could put it out there. I think the free press laws in this country have to defend that. The question is going to come down to whether he actually broke in. Paul kim, he doesnt want to come back, assange, he does not want to be extradited, he doesnt want to have to stand trial. Its not a foregone conclusion that he would lose if he claims if he could find a defense that said that you i didnt in fact break in. I mean, in a way, if he came back, this would be a big debate over his methods and what hes trying to do. Well, thats exactly right. And lets bear in mind too that i think one of the reasons he doesnt want to come back is because he also knows the government is going to have an opportunity to ask him about other instances, for instance, these wikileaks leak intuss inte Clinton Campaign, russias involvement, et cetera, he probably doesnt want to answer those questions. Paul former Vice President joe biden maintaining his lead in new polls. Karl rove on whos up and whos down in the 2020 democratic field, next. Hey, who are you . Oh, hey jeff, im a car thief. What . im here to steal your car because, well, thats my job. What . What . . What . laughing what . . What . what . [crash] what . haha, it happens. And if youve got cutrate car insurance, paying for this could feel like getting robbed twice. So get allstate. And be better protected from mayhem. Like me. 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Paul hes still not an official 2020 democratic contender but joe biden appears to be maintaining his lead in the polls despite recent allegations of inappropriate touching by several women. In a national poll, the former Vice President holds a 9 point lead over his closest competitor, vermont senator Bernie Sanders. The numbers virtually unchanged after a week full of coverage of the accusations against him. Biden is ahead in some key early primary states, with polls showing him leading the field in iowa, New Hampshire and california. Karl rove served as a senior sao president george w. Bush. You said joe biden, dont count him ou out. Should he views the new polls in the last week as an invitation to really get in this thing . Yes, he should. Look, we dont know how hes going to perform once he gets in the race and thats the key. People are going to sort of until he becomes a candidate and they see three or four weeks of him out there as a candidate, theyre going to sort of hold their current position and their current position is that hes on top of the field. Paul dont you think these disclosures were ofte an attempy some to keep him out, they want him out. That was the opening part of my comment. Every candidate now is Getting Research done before they become a candidate. Joe biden got his delivered by lucy flores, the democratic candidate for Lieutenant Governor had in nevada in 2014. This is par for the course. Everybody, amy clo klobuchar, se was a lousy boss, elizabeth warren, everybody gets research done. A lot of times it looks like fingerprints on it are people involved in the sanders campaign. Paul biden gave a speech, where he made jokes about the accusations and then he called himself i thought this was intriguing, he says im an obama biden democrat. Hes going to wrap himself around the obama record if he runs. How useful is that going to be when he gets in . Well, i think it is useful, provided he goes beyond simply saying isnt it great what we did during the obama, biden years and instead lays out a vision for the Democratic Party thats more traditional in nature, for example, on health care, while a lot of people to the left have been running around, endorsing medicare for all, government take over, Single Payer Health care system, if he says we need to repair and strengthen the Affordable Care act, that would be in the obama, biden, more traditional democrat lane. And i think lets see how well he executes that strategy. I think its a smart one. The Democratic Party i dont think itself is willing to sort of say lets embrace the far left. In fact, there was a gallup poll last november in which they said they asked of democrats, do you want your party more moderate or liberal. They wanted to be more moderate rather than more liberal. Paul does that mean that biden, when he gets in, should take on some of these left wing positions, say im all for doing something about Climate Change but the green new deal, way too far. Im all for fixing the Affordable Care act but medicare for all, not going to happen, bad idea. In other words, challenge the left. Right. Absolutely. In my column two weeks ago that you were kind enough to remember, i mentioned Sister Soldier moment. I think its very much to his advantage to show strength and say no, this is too far. Im not going to be in favor of these far left schemes. Its not going to help us win the white house, its not going to help us govern the country and its not in keeping with our partys great traditions. Paul Sister Soldier moment, was 1992 when bill clinton stood up to the left on a particular subject and got a lot of credit for it with voters, helped him win the nomination. Who else so far among the democratic field has impressed you with what theyve done on message or organization . Well, let me say there have been several that have impressed me. In bidens case, it took him a while to get to the right place. He gets attacked on friday and it takes him until wednesday and thursday to actually respond and on friday then he makes jokes which seems to undermine what he did on the good things he did wednesday and thursday. Nobody has had a perfect launch but ive been impressed by Kamala Harris original speech in oakland, large crowd, though shes faded a little bit. Im impressed with mayor pete, pete buttigieg, he seems to have a persistence on making himself be a sensible liberal sort of leftleaning democrat but more sensible and more conciliatory than some of the harder voices to the side. Got to be impressed by Bernie Sanders money raising and his doggedness. Robert francis orourke, he has that charisma, that unexplainable thing that causes people to say wow. Each one of them, again, has had strengths and weaknesses. This is going to be a long contest, were at the beginning of it and how they conduct themselves each and every day over the long haul is going to be very, very important. Paul youve done president ial politics for a long time. Are the parties now so weak, the political parties, republican and democrat, and the entrepreneurial nature of these campaigns such, and ability to raise money through the web, not through large donors, such that you get somebody who is a real outsider, that nobody knows at the start of the race, could actually win the nomination . Oh, sure. Absolutely. Look, we saw in an era thats significantly different than today, but not that far ago in 2018, remember, it was 2008, remember it was the iowa caucuses, Barack Obamas showing there, that allowed him to snatch away the lead and begin his march to the nomination, thats before these things you talked about, social media, the ability to raise money on the internet, the disintegrations of the uniform coverage of the races, the party rules making it more available for people to pull off upsets, all these things will come into play with more force in 2020 than they have in previous years. Paul all right. Its going to be fun to watch. Still ahead frustrated with congress and the courts on border security, President Trump fires his own Immigration Enforcement deputy. Will his purchasing a purge e the problem . We have these horrible laws that the democrats wont change. I think theyre going to pay a very big price in 2020. Val, vern. Im off to college and im not gonna be around. Im worried about my parents retirement. Oh, dont worry. Voya helps them to and through retirement. Dealing with todays expenses. Like college. While helping plan, invest and protect for the future. So theyll be okay. Without me . Um. And when we knock out this wall imagine the closet space . Yes oh hey, son. Yeah, i think theyll be fine. Voya. Helping you to and through retirement. I think that the whole asylum rules, laws, and regulations have been taken advantage of by people that are very bad people in many cases. Theyre gaming the system. They have been for years. We have done a great job at the border with bad laws. Paul frustrated with congress and the courts on border security, President Trump this week continued his purge at the department of homeland security, several other top immigration officials following dhs secretary Kirstjen Nielsen out the door, including ron vitello who resigned wednesday after his nomination for the permanent position was pulled, a Top Administration official said this week the staffing changes were meant to make way for more aggressive immigration actions. Were back with dan he dan hennr and mary ogrady. Is the purge going to make a difference . I think whats happening to the president , he doesnt realize, is that the more he says i am going to crack down, the more the alarm bells go off in honduras, guatemala, el salvador, saying you better get in now because hes going to build a wall and youre never going to get in after that. I think this is actually fueling the rush to the border because hes showing no signs of any interest in expanding or accelerating reform to accept more legal immigrants. So people just want to get over the border, put their big toe in, claim asylum and get in under the current laws. Paul hes right about the asylum . Exactly. Hes making it worse because he cant change that and every time he says and he fires people and says im going to get tougher on immigration, the more people say rush to the border now and get in because the courts are on your side and you can claim asylum. Paul so he names a replacement to Kirstjen Nielsen, what is he or she going to do differently if the asylum laws are the way they are and the courts are interpreting the laws the way they do. Thats precisely the question. The president s analysis was correct as weve been discussing asylum laws are very wide open. Liberal judges have been every time the administration attempts to adjust the asue limm laws, saying people have to come through ports of entry, rather than wandering across the border and claiming asylum, a liberal judge says that cant be done and issues an injunction. The president says under those terms, weve been doing a great job. How could they be doing a great job if he just fired Kirstjen Nielsen . Paul and a bunch of other people too. The problem here, though, paul, is that donald trump is essentially taking personal ownership of what is an intractable problem down there and i think thats a Political Risk in doing that. He said the democrats are going to pay a big price in 2020 but i think that democrats, nancy pelosi and chuck schumer, saw what he did with the Government Shutdown which was literally take ownership of that and theyre standing back and letting him do the same thing with this problem. Paul thats my reading of the plight l call incentives for political incentives for the democrats. The president blames the democrats and he fires his own team. The democrats say you want to fire people, name somebody else, you want to take ownership of this, go ahead. We dont need to help you. Its not doing him any good. By the way, j theres now almost a complete vt the top of dhs in all of the key and core areas which means the barr kratz wilbureaucrats will e while hes taking the time to refill the positions. Thats not going to help anything either. The smart political strategy is to turn around and put the finger at the body that has done the damage and that is congress, which has totally abdi kateed hits duty to fix asylum laws and other aspects of immigration over the decades. The road black has been democrats who decided they will not work with this president on anything. If he were to point that out day after day and link it to the crisis at the border, he would be doing himself a lot better political help. Paul do you agree with that, mary . I do. I also think he needs the to do something more immediately and if he during his state of the union paul who would that be . During the state of the union he said im in favor of legal immigration, lots of you lots of legal immigration. He could say to the people who want to come into this country, if you try to cross and claim these asylum laws and we have to return you because he is returning some people, you will be not allowed to file legally and then he could turn around and he could start to make create a policy which will make the legal system work better and i think that will be very popular with americans. I mean, there are a lot of people who are saying, look, i dont like this because i have relatives who are in line waiting properly. If he said i want to respect those people and create a line, i think that would be a win for him domestically and it would also help him with the illegals. Paul the courts might not let him enforce that kind of policy under their current interpretation of the nationality act. Thats part of the problem. He has to send more judges to the border. He has to accelerate this process of hearings for asylum. He can do that. Paul that takes money from congress. It does. On that score, i mean, its been reported that his soninlaw, white house advisor Jared Kushner has been working with members of congress to try to work you out a plan. Steven mill wants to takner wane aggressive a approach at the border. The president has to square the middle on this and get some of the policy initiatives that mary suggested going so it looks more than just a battle down there on the southern border. Paul all right. 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Together, we are going to end the International Embarrassment of the United States of america, our great country being the only major nation on earth not to guarantee health care to all as a right. Paul that was vermont senator and 2020 democratic hopeful, Bernie Sanders, this week unveiling a new version of his medicare for all plan. And reopening the debate over Single Payer Health care. Rivals are cosponsoring the revival. Some are eager to bring it to the floor for a vote, which would eliminate private Health Insurance for nearly 180 million americans. Were back with Dan Henninger, kim strassel. Is this still single payer Government Health care . Thats basically it. The question is what is not in the proposal, and its not much. Bernies plan would cover den l talldental, vision, prescription drugs. It would also have no doctor copays which is more generous that medicare is right now. Paul the incentives for overuse of health care would be enormous, presumably. He has not very well stated how he intends to pay for it. He released a white paper with a bunch of options, a 70 marginal income tax, 77 estate tax, a 7. 5 premium, government premium, but the question is what mix of that it would be and how he would intend to get that through. Paul what happens if you get your insurance from your employer . You would have to lose that. Thats i think something that is not very well understood. Medicare for all has been a successful slogan. If you dig deeper, not so much. Paul if you look at medicare, when people say medicare, im on it, its popular. Thats true. Theres a Kaiser Family foundation survey from january that asked people under this sort of medicare for all National Health plan, would you be able to keep the insurance you have right now . 55 of people surveyed said yes which suggests they dont understand what it all entails yet. Paul kim. Kim, is this the proposalthate sanders to the nomination. Its the proposal hes putting out as his main flagship proposal of his campaign. Its one of those great things that sounds good on a Bumper Sticker many i think theres a lot of younger americans, for instance, many of them living at home that dont have their own insurance, and the word free simply resonates until as kyle points out you get into the specifics and thats going to be one of the republicans challenge. One of them is pointing out, this is not medicare for all. Medicare is quite generous. Why . Because politicians tend to be nice to Older Americans because they vote a lot 678. This is medicaid for all. Theres not going to be the money to make this program work in any way other than the most minimal standard. Paul and dan, i think we said four other democrats at least have endorsed this, elizabeth warren, kirsten gillibrand, so theres going to be a signature of the democratic campaign. It is. And to me, its fascinating. I honestly dont quite understand why professional politicians like them are getting so deeply behind bernies idea because as weve been pointing out here, its fundamentally a phrase, its a Bumper Sticker idea and as kyle described, yes, it polls very well when its just put out there as a Bumper Sticker but the moment you ask people and the polls have shown this, half the country has private insurance. When youre told this will eliminate your private insurance, support falls into the 30s. The details of medicare for all are very hard to sell. Now, youve got Mitch Mcconnell saying in the senate hes going to president this to a vote and make them stand up. And the democrats are saying oh, this is stunt like when you made up vote on the new green deal. Medicare for all is itself essentially a stunt until you get into the details. Paul i assume theyre not going to abstain like there did on the green new deal. Bernie sanders has to vote yay or nay on his proposal, correct . I think he would. The politics get worse the more you talk about it. When you tell people you would lose private insurance it falls to 30 theres the kaiser poll. When you say there may be delays when receiving care, it falls to 26 . Its a 25, 75 issue. I dont know how anybody turns that around. Paul a lot of democrats, doug jones, alabama n. Tough states, they might vote against it. They could. Whats interesting is how some of the president ial contenders are trying to hedge it. Pete buttigieg, he says he wants medicare for all who want it. Which is just a little phrase at the end that suggests hes not really buying into the standard agenda. Paul he wants to sound like he is. All right. When we come back, tehran threatens retaliation after the Trump Administration declares the revolutionary guard corps a terrorist organization. And Benjamin Netanyahu heads for a historic fifth term. The latest news from the middle east, next. I stood outside, assessing the situation. 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Irans Islamic Revolutionary guard corps controls much of irans National Economy including construction, banking and telecommunications. It also oversees the regimes Ballistic Missile program. So what does the terrorist designation mean for the irgc and for the future of u. S. iran relations. Lets ask mark zubowitz. Welcome, good to see you. Thanks, paul. Paul do you a agree with the designation of the irgc . I do. Ive long supported it. Its been on discussion for about 11 years in this town. I think its long past the time to finally recognize theism rgc as the terrorists they are. Theyve been killing and maiming thousands of americans for years. The argument against it which is we shouldnt call terrorists terrorists because they might act like terrorists, i think is ridiculous. Paul what does this do to the irgc and how does it restrict their behavior . Were adding the irgc to the foreign terrorist org. Any liss says list. Organization list. Recognizing this as the leading terrorist organization, one of the leading in the world. It has implications for anybody that wants to do business with iran. 20 to 40 of the total economy is controlled by the irgc. If you do business with key strategic sectors of irans economy youre doing business with a terrorist org organizati. Paul 23 youre a german or british bank and you want to finance something the irgc has a big stake in, in iran, you would risk punishment by the United States if you do that. Thats right. You would risk criminal prosecution, being he denied visas to enter the United States for you, potentially your family. And even though the irgc has been he designated before, this new designation under state Department Law means if you provide any Material Support at any level, financial, technical, advisory, training to the irgc, in any capacity, you can be designated, not only if theres a u. S. Person but a foreign person and not only if theres a nexus with the u. S. Financial system or u. S. Market but even if theres no nexus, if you provide any kind of support you could find yourself in a u. S. Jail. Paul whats been the reaction over in the world . What about europe and elsewhere, china and asia, where there are some people who do business in iran . Whats been the reaction . The reaction has been interesting. On one hand everybody says this is earthshattering and the irgc will retaliate and kill americans and this is a terrible decision by the Trump Administration. In the same breath theyll tell you this is unnecessary and redundant and we have laws that prohibit this. You cant have it both ways. The reality is, the reaction is what it should be. That is, lets make key strategic sectors of irans radioactive and, and anybody that continues to do business should think twice about that decision. Paul you raised the potential problem of retaliation. Look, iran has retaliated before, even if they try to keep their fingerprints off it through terrorism. Is there a risk to u. S. Di blow malts or u. S. Diplomats or u. S. Soldiers where they are in close proximity to u. S. Troops. Theres always been a risk to u. S. Individuals, u. S. Assets, because Islamic Republic of iran has been at war with the United States for 40 years. Many get this backwards. Theyre provoking, theyre aggressive, theyre killing and maiming and the United States needs to react to that. The worst way to react is by doing nothing. I think its long past the time for the United States to finally be drawing a clear line for the irgc that any kind of action, any kind of damage to the United States, our people and assets, will be met with all instruments of american power. Paul okay. So weve had all these policies that the administration has put forward on iran, try to isolate and pressure the regime. Is there any evidence that it in fact is working in a way that would change irans behavior . There was an interesting article about two weeks ago by ben hubbard from the New York Times who actually wrote a very detailed article showing that as a result of this maximum Pressure Campaign, the regime in iran is having to make a fundamental choice between guns and butter. And by having to make that choice, theyre cutting payments and credit lines and support to shiite militias, hes bay la h. The nuclear deal gave iran it didnt have to make that fundamental choice, they could have guns and butter. Now that they have to make the choice, the economy is struggling, people are protesting, at the same time theyre having to cut transfer payments to dangerous regimes and surrogates. So it is making that kind of difference. Paul so its making a difference on having them pull back from some of their promotion of terror activity but not necessarily the nuclear program. Ive got 10 10 seconds here. They havent come back to the table to te negotiate. Thats why the Trump Administration needs to take the maximum Pressure Campaign from six to 1. Paul we have to take one more break. When we come back, hits and misses of the week. Y, who are y . Oh, hey jeff, im a car thief. What . im here to steal your car because, well, thats my job. What . What . . What . laughing what . . What . what . [crash] what . haha, it happens. And if youve got cutrate car insurance, paying for this could feel like getting robbed twice. So get allstate. And be better protected from mayhem. Like me. When cravings hit, hit back. Choose glucerna, with slow release carbs to help manage blood sugar, and start making everyday progress. Glucerna. Paul time now for our hits and misses of the week. Kim, start us off. Paul, democrats didnt get what they wanted out of special counsel muellers probe and now they also have this. This week former obama general counsel was indicted under two counts of lying for his work in the ukraine under the Foreign Agent registration act. Now, the law has never been enforced for decades until mueller decided to use it to leverage some of the people he was targeting to telling him things. The lesson here and the miss here is for unintended consequences. This ought to be a lesson of special counsels when you get them you never know where they are going to end up. Paul thanks. Kyle . Talking about Government Healthcare, miss to britains single payer program, the National Health service. Recent news saying that about half of local nhs authorities are rationing surgery to save money and about half are also rationing hernia surgery. The headline of the times last week was elderly go blind as nhs ignores eye surgery rationing advice. As the debate over single payer medicare for all heats up here i think you will see a lot more headlines. Mary . Hit for the astrophysicist who gave us first glimpse at a black hole. First i thought i was looking at washington, d. C. It turns out it is actually a real black hole. It is the shadow of the black hole. You cant see the black hole because theres no light in it. Paul also like d. C. It is a huge triumph of the human spirit which remains relentless curious. Paul dan . Somewhat connectedly im giving a miss to house banking chair Maxine Waters who this week demanded to know from three bank ceos what they were doing about the student debt problem. And one by one, starting with the ceo of wells fargo and then citigroup, they said we really dont do Student Loans anymore. And chase Ceo Jamie Dimon to tell the banking chair that the government took over Student Loans in 2010 during the Obama Administration when she was in congress. Paul and voted for it. I guess they were just to discrete to ask her what shes doing to clean up that mess. Paul remember, if you have your own hit or miss, be sure to tweet it to us. Thats it for this weeks show. Thanks to my panel and thanks for watching. I will see you right here next week. Welcome to americas news headquarters. President trump scoring a legal victory in the showdown over immigration. A federal Appeals Court temporarily allows his policy of returning migrants to mexico during their asylum process. Im arthel neville. Eric hello everyone. Thank you for joining us. Im eric shawn. This comes as the president says he is considering the proposal to place and bust migrant detainees bus migrant detainees to sanctuary cities. The white house pitched that plan twice in the last six months. It was rejected by lower officials both