Congress, the government will either shut down on february 15th again, or i will use the powers afforded to me under the laws and the constitution of the United States to address this emergency. Paul lets bring in Deputy EditorDan Henninger and columnist kim straussing. Kim, the president within 24 hours moving from no opening of the government unless you fully fund the wall to, well, okay, a down payment on the wall. Now no money for the wall and a temporary government opening. What caused him to finally give in . Yeah. The pressure just simply hit breaking point. Look, paul, you looked out there, voters blamed republicans, blamed him for the shutdown. It was hurting their Approval Ratings out there in the polls. You had it doing damage, according to the white houses own economists, to the economy. You saw the consequences of the shutdown really start to ratchet up, people not showing up for work, airlines being delayed, things not happening. And also you had members of the Republican Party who had, up to this point, stuck with this president but were beginning to urge him to change course. Paul yeah. That seems like a pretty comprehensive list to me, dan. But the president didnt really go into this with a strategy to persuade nancy pelosi in the first place. All she had to do was nothing, essentially. And she would win, and thats what happened, he couldnt move her politically. Yeah. And the question is whether hes going to be able to move her over the next three weeks. I mean, lets go back. The key event here, surely, was nationally televised meeting at the white house between President Trump, nancy pelosi and Chuck Schumer over this subject at which the president abruptly said that he would shut down the government, take responsibility for it, ill take the mantel. At that point there really wasnt anything that schumer or pelosi needed to do other than to roll forward and let the president , indeed, take responsibility. And that is what came to pass this week as the Government Shutdown really began to bite. And i think the key event was the faas stop order on the airports of laguardia, newark, philadelphia. You started to have scenes of people jammed up in the airports. And i think at that point, paul up to a point the border security, the wall and shutdown had equal political weight in the public mind. But i think the president s wall priority was beginning to really drop down in the publics mind. It was being overwhelmed by the Government Shutdown. Paul right. The question is how is he going to get that back in the public eye. Paul i want to get there. I want to ask you, kim, a a lot of the restrictionists on the shutdown, a lot of people who have been pushing the president to do whatever it takes to get the funding for the border or wall are now blaming him for following their advice. I guess they wanted to see his Approval Rating fall even lower . Is that fair criticism . No, and its mystifying, paul. Look, heres what we just learned from this shutdown, okay . For years now weve had a number of people on the conservative side say, you know, shutdowns can work if only you are just tough enough, okay . But you go back to 2013 when the republicans shut down the government over obamacare, it didnt work, it wasnt a successful strategy. You still have those people who go, oh, well, if you hold out even longer, it might have. We just had a president hold out for 35 days. Things were getting worse, not better, and to continue to go ahead would just have brought more pain upon the white house and given them even less room to maneuver. Paul dan, now we have the president saying hes going to shut it down again if he cant get a deal. How do you think these negotiations are going to go . Your already hearing youre already hearing the democrats say theyre not going to give him money for the wall. The president s put extended legal status on the table for the dreamers, 800,000 of or so who came here as children and are now young adults, and those with temporary protected status from Central America and elsewhere. Any incentive for the democrats to do a deal . Well, not really, not today. But i think if the white house gets its messaging clearer on what is, what they want on the border security, the wall, i mean, i dont think the wall is really floating anymore. But there is a problem down on the border, for sure, with these caravans, mothers and children coming up. And the white house has not quite made it clear whether the problem is the frau of tens of the flow of tens of thousands of people or, as the president keeps saying, crime, drugs and homicidal aliens. They just havent gotten their message clear. The democrats arent proposing much of anything, and i think at some point the public will begin to regard nancy pelosi as simply obstinate on this issue if the white house found a way to make a better argument for what theyre trying to get. Otherwise shell just roll towards that Government Shutdown which, i think, in three weeks is really unthinkable. The white house cant possibly believe they could survive another Government Shutdown. Paul i dont think hes going to shut it down again. All right. Thank you, dan, thank you, kim. When we come back, former trump adviser roger stone indicted by special courage Robert Mueller. Well take a look at the charges against him and what they could mean for the trump presidency. Will it feel like the wheend of a journey . P working, or the beginning of something even better . When you prepare for retirement with pacific life, you can create a lifelong income. So you have the freedom to keep doing whatever is most meaningful to you. 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Well, the thing people have to keep in mind here is this is an indictment of roger stone, a guy whos literally out of central casting. Hes been around american politics, the fringes, the whole time, for 40 or 50 or years. Paul right. And the charge against him is that he lied to the fbi. And anyone who knows roger stone is going, roger stone lied . Really . This is a guy who probably lies to the mirror in the morning. The real issue here has been from the beginning, started with the fbis counterintelligence investigation of campaign become in 2016. Back in 2016. And this is long removed from what the original collusion charge was all about, which i think people have to keep in mind. The collusion charge was that russian intelligence was interfering in the campaign of 2016. Russian intelligence was interfering in a lot of campaigns around the world, but the idea that the Trump Campaign at a high level was doing that is far removed from what this stone indictment is about. Paul what this indictment does do is says he lied about his attempts to deal, to get in contact with Julian Assange from wikileaks right. Paul which ultimately leaked some of the documents from the dnc, presumably getting it from the russians who hack had had it. Right. Paul okay. So thats the connection to the potential collusion, bill. Right. But you say potential, and thats a big word here. The important part about this indictment is roger stone has been a swamp creature for a long time, and he thrives in it, right . He seems to be in trouble for during the campaign having exaggerated his contacts with Julian Assange at wikileaks paul he even talked about them on the air. Right. Pretending that he had close ties that he didnt, and then he pretended that he didnt do that during the campaign, so hes in trouble for that. But these are all crimes, as dan points out, these are after the investigation began. Also donald trump cut him off before his campaign and so forth. These are paul 2016. Doesnt mean theyre not serious. Doesnt mean hes not going to be punished, but again as dan pointed out, this is supposed to be a counterintelligence investigation. And the crimes that theyre unearthing are crimes that occurred after the investigation started. Paul but let me push back on you guys at this point. Julian assange we know, from his previous experience, is antiamerican. He hates america, he has been responsible for tangible harm to American National security. Why in the world would anyone if associated with the Trump Campaign want to have anything to do with Julian Assange . And isnt that sleazy behavior that should be rejected politically . Well, it is sleazily behavior. Roger stone specializes in sleazy behavior. But again, i want to emphasize there is the idea here that the Trump Campaign was in collusion with the russians paul right. And theres no evidence in the four corners of this indictment of any of that. Yeah. And think back to the Trump Campaign through this period of 20152016. Paul if, it was virtually a pickup Basketball Team paul and a bad one. And a bad one. They were just throwing a campaign together. Paul manafort became the director of the campaign partly because stone recommended him, and partly because donald trump knew him because he lived in trump tower. The idea that they could have orchestrated something this sophisticated really kind of defies common sense. Paul there is some back and forth about stones conversations or communications with they call trump officials. One of which looks to be an associate of steve bannon who was then with the campaign. Right. Paul and when i forget what the exact phrase was, after the leaks came out in october, a wikileaks batch. Thats, again, not collusion, but it is yeah, its sleazily. But are we going to, again, the special counsel was appointed mostly for a counterintelligence investigation alleging that donald trump worked with putin finish. Paul right. To steal the election. I think its kind of outrageous. We have no evidence of that, and people are charged with crimes that occurred after this began on process crimes. So, yes, if you want to stipulate that roger stone was sleazy, that campaigns paul and he lied. But were going to have the whole legitimacy of the election questioned . I think this is another reason the special counsel should wrap up his investigation. No prosecutor, order power in prosecutor would keep this going this long just in search of crimes. Paul quickly, or dan, that gets to the key point which is we dont know if Robert Mueller has some big information right. Paul that would connect all of these various dots together and make a case of collusion that we dont have yet, isnt that the big question . That is the big question x. This came up in the confirmation hearings for attorney general bill barr, whether he would step in at some point. And i think he said he would to try to sit down and find out whether this can be brought to a resolution quickly, as bill just suggested. Paul thank you, gentlemen. When we come back, after years of poverty and deprivation, a democratic revolt against Nicholas Maduro and what happens next. I dont keep track of regrets. I never count the wrinkles. And i dont add up the years. But what i do count on, is staying happy and healthy. So, i add protein, vitamins and minerals to my diet with boost®. Boost® high protein nutritional drink has 20 grams of protein, along with 26 essential vitamins and minerals your body needs. All with guaranteed great taste. The upside im just getting started. Boost® high protein be up for life. Hits a longdistance journey, e psoriasis is not always easy. And you have the determination to keep going. 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Today i have officially recognized the president of the venezuelan National Assembly, juan Mary Anastasia ogrady is back with a look at what it all means. Youve within covering venezuela for years, mary [laughter] why is the guaido government more legit cincinnati. He was elected legitimate . Dont forget that chavez, who was the founder of paul hugo chavez yeah, he had basically defeated the opposition by rigging the elections so much that, basically, everybody stayed home. So he got control of the National Assembly. And in this particular if election, people came back out, and they said we think we can win paul they took it back they took it back, yeah. This year he was elected president of the National Assembly, so hes the head of the National Assembly. In the venezuelan constitution it says when the National Assembly deems certain things about the current president as being illegitimate, then the job falls to the president of the National Assembly to become the interim president and to call for new elections. So its completely constitutional, a constitution by the way that was written by go chavezs supporters. Paul and maduro claims he won an election last year and swore himself in here, but youre saying that was a rigged election . Yeah. I mean, not only am i saying that, a lot of International Organizations said that. The European Union did not recognize it, the oas Paul Organization of american states yes. And, of course, the cubans control the voter rolls and all of that, but the other thing is that they basically disqualified all of the leading candidates and the most important leaders in the opposition from even running. So it is a completely sham election. Paul okay. So now you have two president s saying theyre both, have power. Right. Paul is how will this come down to where the military comes down . I think it will. And whats interesting is a lot of people are paying attention to the minister of defense. But the minister of defense is a guy called lopez, and this guy is, you know, there are photographs of him basically kneeling before fidel castro. I mean, hes part of the status quo of the regime dictatorship. The real question is the lieutenant colonels, the sergeants, the rank and file. And my information and this could be wrong but, i mean, as best as i can tell they want to move, but they, you know, thats where you might see a possible break. Paul and so if theyre ordered by the generals, for example, to arrest guaido, which they could, or to shoot, fire on demonstrators to put them off, that would be the acid test to what happens, whether those soldier ors and middle ranking officers willing to do that. Exactly. And youre already seeing pockets of violence. So theres already a body count thats going up. There are people being arrested, demonstrators being arrested. I mean, theyre trying to put this down with repression. But thats coming largely from the National Guard which has always does a lot of the Drug Trafficking under the protection of maduro and also this paramilitary that has been armed by the cubans and the russians. Paul now, the cubans have ab an extensive Intelligence Network operating in cuba in venezuela, and you believe that, in fact, they are essentially controlling maduro, is that correct . It is theyre not just controlling maduro, theyre controlling the upper ranks of the military as well because you have all these flag officers, east admirals or generals, and theyre kind of siloed. They built the system specifically for this reason. Theres lots of counterintelligence, theyre really good at spying on people. So if you cant organize, if you cant communicate, you cant organize, you know, an overthrow paul so how should the people of venezuela and americans who have now endorsed this new interim government, how do you counter that with cuban influence . Well, i mean, the most important thing is that you support the people on the streets, and you paul theyve done that. Pompeos already done that. The big test will be if the militarys asked to fire on the crowd and they refuse to do it paul 40 how do you squeeze cuba . Well, theres a lot of things. First of all, we should get all of our allies in the region, and there are now at least 1 is countries that agree with the United States 11. Cuba wants it to be about the u. S. , the empire. But, actually, these other countries are the ones who have led this since january 4th when they came out and said without the as part of the group of lima if, they announced that maduro is illegitimate. And now what we need to do is squeeze the cuban leadership. That means travel sanctions, Freezing Bank accounts, diplomatic pressure and so forth until you get them to decide that its easier for them to do the right thing. Paul okay. Thank you very much, mary, appreciate it. When we come back, california senator Kamala Harris the latest high profile democrat to jump into the 2020 president ial race. What harris has to offer and what to make of the rest of the growing 2020 field. Is your kind of cure. Woman 2 i had the common type. Man 2 mine was rare. Vo epclusa has a 98 overall cure rate. Man 3 i just found out about my hepatitis c. Woman 3 i knew for years. Vo epclusa is only one pill, once a day, taken with or without food for 12 weeks. Vo before starting epclusa, your doctor will test if you have had hepatitis b, which may flare up, and could cause serious liver problems during and after treatment. Vo tell your doctor if you have had hepatitis b, other liver or kidney problems, hiv, or other medical conditions. Vo . 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Now camilla harris. Often mentioned as one of the top tier candidates. Why . Well, shes got an interesting background. She has, shes a mix between her mother is indian, an immigrant, and her fathers jamaican. So it fits in with the identity politics that the left has been so obsessed with. Shes also had a very strong record as strong, i say that somewhat ironically as a prosecutor going after liberal targets when she was attorney general in california. Exxonmobil, forprofit colleges, payday lenders. Paul democrats love those as political targets. Right. Paul but attorney general now, shes only been in the senate two years right. And she hasnt really accomplished much. Paul is that a barrier well, look at barack obama, right . Paul so its not a real prayerier. I think its actually down to her benefit that she hasnt done much or hasnt had to make many tough votes. So i think thatll actually make it easier for her to skate through a primary. What are her weaknesses, kyle, what do you think . Yeah. One of them is if democratic voters really want american carnage that Elizabeth Warren is selling, thats not what Kamala Harris was providing. Paul its a more optimist ific message . It is. One of the emerging distinctions is whether democratic voters are going to be won with honey or vinegar. Elizabeth warren this week, the news is shes thinking about proposing a wealth tax, a tax on assets above a certain amount of income. Her message is were going to get those millionaires. Harris is going the other direction. Shes talking about tax credits for renters, tax credits for working americans. Its still a redistributionist policy, but its being sold from the other end. I think shes very much running like obama. Shes not disclosing all her plans for taxes, especially because shes, like, a lot of her donors are in Silicon Valley the phrase like obama did is key, because barack obama had this extraordinary skill of just running on this warm personality and kind of subsumed the policies of, like the Elizabeth Warren type stuff. It is not at all clear that even Kamala Harris or any of the rest of them are going to be able to pull off what obama did. A warm guy, appealing to everybody, these people have a harder edge to them. Paul and she got her start this politics from willie brown, the former speaker of the california assembly, who she dated two or three decades her senior but connected her to all kinds of democratic money people and really gave her her big jump in california politics. Right. And she does not discuss that fact in her didnt put it in the book. He appoint9 her to appointed her to some state commissions, she earned six figures baseically not doing much. And then he connected her to the wellheeled elites in San Francisco and l. A. Paul thatll be something to watch. Kirsten gillibrand, senator from new york, basically also getting in. What do we make of her . Well, whats interesting about her is that she has basically wiped her whole policy record clean in between 2008 and 2009. So she was in the house from an upstate new york district. She was railing against amnesty for illegal immigrants. She had an a rating from the National Rifle association. And then in 2009 she was appointed to hundt, to hillay clinton, the senate seat being vacated by hillary clinton. And by 2010 she had an f from the National Rifle association, she now says President Trumps immigration policies are outright racist. The question is whether people are going to buy this idea that shes had a conversion to liberal views. Paul and she was, wrapped herself around the clintons for a long time as she was climbing the ladder. Then when the me too issue broke out, she basically came out and said, well, i think bill clinton should have resigned. So they threw them over the side. She used to play squash with al franken in the senate, she was of the first senator to come out and say he should resign. So shes really had one to have great makeovers in american politics. Is that i mean, i guess you could say authenticity will not be her strong selling point. Well, i guess if youre running for president the level of ambition that has to be something outside the human scale of most of the rest of us. [laughter] just try anything. Theres a political baseline here, i think, which is that all of these democrats believe that Donald Trumps disApproval Rating is rising and all that he has held on to is that base down in the 30s. Hasnt expanded his base. A lot of them think all they have to do is get that nomination, and theyre in the white house. Paul i agree with you. Tulsi gabbard, zonkwoman from hawaii congresswoman from hawaii, what does she bring . She has some authenticity, but shes made some comments shes been culturally conservative in the past, but shes going to have to run to the left paul against samesex marriage. Exactly. Paul now shes for it. Exactly. But, you know, shell be another idiosyncratic candidate in the mix. And pete, the mayor of south bend, indiana, which has not normally been a launching point for president s, but is this, is this a lark or is this serious . Youve got to think that hes running for an msnbc contract. [laughter] you know, its going to provide a lot of color. Weve got nine candidates in this clown car so far. I think we can fit another 15 or 20n you know . Bring it on. Paul you want to just this is basically your lifetime employment [laughter] contract. Still ahead, as the democratic president ial future starts to take shape, we will continue our rook at growing socialism. 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It is not wrong to say to those people, youre going to have to start paying your fair share of taxes. And that is how were going to fund making sure that college is available for all. Paul that was vermont senator Bernie Sanders in South Carolina this week testing the waters for his potential 2020 president ial run and renewing his 2016 Campaign Push for free college for all. Its a growing refrain on the political left with other white house hopefuls and democrats on capitol hill taking up the call. But is it a good idea . Lets ask richard vetter, distinguished professor of economics e emeritus at ohio university. Hes also author of the forthcoming book, restoring the promise. Higher education in america. I know it doesnt surprise you that this is a call coming from the democrats. Whats the case against it . Well, first of all, we in economics say theres no free lunches. I would say theres no free college. Someone is paying for college. And its im a little surprised in a way at some of the democrats for pushing free college, particularly if theyre talking about fouryear colleges. Paul right. Because most of the people who go to college, to a fouryear college, getting bachelors degrees come from relatively welloff families. And im not talking about just the elite Eastern Private schools such as the one, frankly, paul, that you went to [laughter] where the average income, the average Family Incomes about a half a million a year paul richard, it was 6,000 when i went there [laughter] yeah, hell, i understand. It was 450 when i went. Im a little older than you are, paul [laughter] i went to northwestern, you know . A cheeky mid western school. But even at the, say, flagship state universities this is the case. The university of virginia, for example, the median Family Income of people going to uva is over 150,000 a year. If you used average income, its over 200,000 a year. So here we have a bunch of rich kids or at least moderately middle class kids going to college. And bernie is saying and others are sawing lets give them free saying lets give them free tuition. That doesnt sound like a progressive message to me. Paul what if they said, fine, well go to fouryear college, but were also going to subsidize vocational school, twoyear colleges, all of those as well. And if you, you a relatively welloff person want to go to harvard, well pay for you too. Thats still appealing to an awful lot of people. Sure. The first question that comes to mind, how are you going to pay for this . Here we have a government that has the better part of a trillion dollar deficit in a period of 4 or less than 4 unemployment. Crazy. Weve never had anything like this before. Our National Debt is over 100 , the gross National Debts over 100 of our gdp right now. Were getting up there. Were not at the greece level yet, but were kind of moving in that direction. Weve got to put some limits on what we do as a nation, and giving away college to rich kids or even to middle income kids isnt doing any good, and its not doing some of the kids good. Paul, do you know what the average Graduation Rate is for most Community Colleges . Well, its under 30, 40 . I took governor whats his name, governor murphy in new jersey wants free college. Paul right. 21 Graduation Rate, 24 graduation. The kids arent even graduating paul but heres a question, i think, when it gets to your equity point and that is if you go to college, all of the statistics show that if you graduate from college, your lifetime earnings are going to be higher than if you dont. So thats a lot of the reason that most parents when they say to when their kids say, you know, i want when theyre deciding what to do, theyll say go to college, because they know those statistics. Yeah. It is true that kids who go to college earn more than kids that dont. Why do i they earn more . Partly in fact, i would say mostly, brian kaplan at george mason would say almost entirely, its because theyre smarter, they have higher uqs, they work harder, they did better in high school, theyre less likely to skip class, etc. , etc. They have attributes many of which have nothing to do with what they learn in college that give them an edge. I think we have overrated college. I do think if we are going to provide federal aid, provide it to vocational schools is a good idea. We probably should. Why dont we give vouchers to low income kids to learn how to become welders, send them to a Career College for a year, give em 20,000 and let em become welders. I think that would do more good than providing free college to everyone. Paul and you have argued that the subsidies for college really do also increase tuition rates and the cost of college, and that kind of is a ratchet that keeps going. I assume that you think that would be even more so if you gave free college to even. Yeah. If you give free college, first of all, where are the colleges going to get their money p . Right now they get some of it from student tuition. The presumption here is somehow the government is going to write checks to colleges for whatever tuition fee they set. Well, we know how thats worked over the last 30, 40 years since we put in the federal student loan programs, fees have soared. And theres finish the ed is incorps veritable on this. The new york fed, the National Bureau of economic research, others have done studies that show theres a very strong correlation between the increases in federal student aid and tuition fees. Its going to get worse. Paul okay. Thank you, richard vetter, appreciate your being here. Still ahead, the high school deplorables, what the catholic controversy says about the state [inaudible] but you can believe this, real esurance employee nancy abraham. Look her up online. Esurance, its surprisingly painless. Ensure max protein. 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Nick salmon, the teenage student involved in the confrontation, spoke out this week on nbc. I wanted the situation to die down, and i just wish he would have walked away, but i knew as long as i kept my composure and didnt do anything, that he might perceive as aggressive or elevation in the conflict, that it would hopefully die. Paul were back with Dan Henninger, Mary Anastasia ogrady and bill mcgurn. Dan, why did these boys become targets . Well, they became targets because of the short version of the video which a lot of people interpreted as an a aggressive of act against this fellow with the drum. And the other reason they became targets is because of social media. Social media immediately causes people to react almost without thinking, and so you have this torrent of published accusations against this kid. And people were taken aback. I mean, most of the country isnt doing this sort of thing every day, and they just looked at it when they found out later that nothing had really happened, it became one of the most, perhaps the most embarrassing moments ever for social media. Paul but dont we have to also say there was a white white boys from a Christian School right. Paul who had attended a march for life rally who were wearing maga hats. If youre looking at the boxes to check, progressive americans dislike all of those disfavored groups. They checked em all. Yeah. Look, thats why everyone jumped. It was too good to be true or to resist, right . So what weve learned since then is almost nothing that was said was true. The gentleman in question, the native american leader, was not a vietnam vet as had been claimed. He the boys did not confront him, he walked into their circle. Almost everything was wrong. Whats more amazing to me is that even after its been exposed and some people have apologized, and give them credit, theyve manned up whats amazing to me is a lot of people giving this half apology. Well, you know, yeah, we got everything wrong, but, you know, they were wearing maga hats. [laughter] thats really incredible to me. Because if the definition of a bigot is someone that judges people not by the merits of their opinion, but they have a different opinion, different group, arent they as guilty as anything trump has done . Paul used to be, mary, that you could say social media, well, it was only on social media, you can ignore it. In this case we saw the ramifications. They just, they blew up. I mean, these, the school the die seize, the high school diocese, the school said were going to investigate, maybe even look at expulsion. And presumably, now if youre one of these kids and you go for a job in the future or you apply to a school, the administration missions officer might say, oh, my gosh, youre one of those covington kids, and you were involved there. And say, sorry, we cant hire you. You know, paul, this incident took me back to 2016 when people looked at donald trump up on that stage and said who could possibly be supporting this guy . And, you know, when you looked at what happened here, people both on the left and the right had piled on these kids right away. And, you know, the right basically retreating and apologizing even before they knew what happened. I think its sort of a metaphor for, you know, the idea that if you have these traditional values, if youre at the march for life, you know, youre fair game and theres no one to defend you. And i think people felt like donald trump was the first person that came along that said, wait a minute, these people are entitled to their opinions also. And this, you know, weve been lectured about tolerance for 40 years. And all of a sudden tolerance except when it comes to these traditional yeah. I think marys absolutely right. People have been lectured about this and told that look, this is the triumph of hillary clinton. Paul the deplorables. The deplorables. She said half of his supporters, just by being a supporter, and i think thats a bigotry too. It was also barack obama, he said people out there clinging to guns and religion. These are not accidents, slips of the tongue, this is the way the left think thinks about thed range of america. Theres a lot of suburban parents out there watching this incident saying that could be us. And their only outlet they have is a president ial vote. Paul that they hate us. They hate us. Paul and they dont hate us because they know us, they hate us just because of who we are. Yeah. Paul thats a very scary thought. Wearing a hat. Well, they paul or going to a catholic school, lets face it. Having different values. Paul is there going to be any fallout at all other than for the kids . Well, there could be. I mean, apparently the young fellow has gotten himself a lawyer, there could be some lawsuits filed against people. You know, social media is so freewheeling its like the author or aslan saying that looks like a punchable face to me. People ought to be more careful about what they say on twitter. Paul i guess good luck. [laughter] we have to take one more break. When we come back, hits and misses of the week. To be nobody but yourself in a world which is doing its best to make you everybody else. Means to fight the hardest battle, which any human being can fight and never stop. Does this sound dismal . It isnt. Its the most wonderful life on earth. Time now for hits and misses of the week kyle first to you. Ill give a misto antiscience progressives and suburban Portland Oregon with a Measles Outbreak that infected dozens of people most of them kids whose parents declined to vaccinate them so a tragedy because vaccineses are safe but a Public Health crisis since authorities are warning that contagious individual went it a trail blazers game and costco and international airport. Terrible stuff. A myth to l. A. Los angeles teacherring union can which went on strike for six days. Supposedly for the students they called out of their strike this week after reaching Labor Agreement with the district. But they cost teachers 3 in their salaries and district 100 Million Dollars without actually achieving anything for students. All right. Bill. Double miss for ireland last year a percentage passed a bill that would criminalize trades with the west bank and you know part of the antiisrael movement. Now the lower house is debating the bill. Bloomberg eli lake, quote, ambassador say they pass this theyll become most antioutside iran in middle east also not because theyre a capitol haven they have a lot of companies to choose between having a base this israel and having a base in ireland. Bill, thank you. Remember if you have your own hit or miss be sure to tweet it to us, and jer on fnc thats it for this weeks show. Thanks to my panel thanks to all of you for watching. We hope to see you right here next week. Hello everyone shutdown is over for now. But the uncertainty remains. As toe whether the federal government will function at 100 for more than three weeks. President signs off on bill yesterday that does not include money or for his proposed wall. Welcome to the new hour of americas news headquarters. Hi everyone. Welcome im eric shawn. President trump is continuing to hint, though, what he may declare a National Emergency at our southern border. If congress has not given the the 5. 7 billion dollars toward a barrier and a the funds for the wall. Most in thes including House Speaker nancy pelosi, well theyre sticking to their stance