0 the investments we need which means increasing spending and he says he felt solved it, he has, increased spending, and here is an interesting fact. before 2008 spending, federal spending was 2.7 trillion dollars. in this budget, it's 3.7 trillion dollars. obama has increased spending in four years by a trillion dollars. now, he's doing that because he wants it pay for infrastructure, high speed rail, electric cars, even as the industry is going bankrupt and to do that he's going to have to raise taxes. am i for gridlock? i say so. >> kim, there's talk that this budget is a compromise. is it? >> this is not a compromise. it was certainly the white house wanted that to be the argument, but think of it rather as an fig leaf or a diversion away from what dan was just talking about, a budget that's exactly the same that we've seen from this administration for the past you can look at a lot of big liberal states like illinois where he came from, that instituted cigarette tax. what they quickly found out, placing higher burden on taxes on a diminishing group of taxpayers like smokers is not a way to fund. and the administration has to come up with the money somewhere and smokers tax sounds better than most things so that's what it threw out there for the initiative. >> the way that they hope to come up with the money can be summed up in two words, a grand bargain. the white house wants to pull the republicans into a negotiation over a grand bargain in which they commitment to some reduced spending, but the republicans have to raise some taxes. politically, that's a poison chalice for the republican party. if they do that, they're probably going to lose the house in 2014 and that's the only thing that barack obama has his eye on right now and the question is, will the republicans take the bait. >> is it really a reduction in spending? that's only a very narrow area. >> the promised reduction in spending. >> it's minuscule. and i believe in this budget, president obama becomes the first president in history to spend 4 trillion dollars in one year. and we do that in the fiscal year 2015, spending goes up every single year. >> and trillions of more-- >> and my favorite moment though that from wednesday announcement is when he said there's not a lot of smoke and mirrors in his budget. in other words, yeah, i'm trying to get some gimmickry and pull stuff through in this package, but other parts of it are okay. >> kim, will it fly politically? >> no, this is nowhere. this is coming a month after both the house and the-- i mean, the house and the senate passed their own budgets and you almost have to wonder what the point of this was, the idea behind budgets the president puts out a plan, a blueprint to guide the rest of congress, to put forward his ambitions and then it's meant to sort of shape what comes after. this came a month later, the debate is short of largely done and he has a little concession on calculating retirement benefits, but this is done nothing to move the ball toward a bigger discussion or a bigger debate or a grand bargain. >> all right, when we come back, the senate moves to debate gun control legislation, but is it a bill that president obama wanted? and could this decision to push forward on the issue cost some in his party their jobs in 2014?