Maxine claims is driving her antitrump crusade. A major warning to democrats. Why they may be dead wrong again about the polls ahead of the midterms. But first, when the inmates run the immigration asylum. Thats the focus of tonights angle. Today was the court imposed deadline for the Trump Administration to reunite families who were separated due to the doj zerotolerance approach to illegal immigration. Of course, all the usual suspects in the media painted a grim picture. They are indicative of these emotional pains and struggles these families have been dealing with over the last several weeks. I met two children from two different families. One a 7yearold boy who loves the superhero flash and the other an 11yearold girl who has to help her father operate his smartphone and likes to play basketball. They are normal kids in almost every way, normal kids dealing with a very difficult situation. Laura the Administration Announces 1412 children have been delivered to parents. In immigration custody. Which took hundreds of staffers, apparently to carry out. Lord knows how much money it took. But the fact that this ever happened drove the left to cry trump is a heartless guy. A practice its been called heartless and cruel by republicans almost never speak out. They are being held against their will. This is a trump policy that is blatantly cruel. Most of Donald Trumps base wouldnt tolerate seeing white children treated like that. Laura histrionics aside, the white houses hands were tied by the 2015 ruling by obama judge dolly gee, ordering that even children who cross the border with parents have to be released from custody in 20 days. That meant either trump continued that old policy of catch and release, family units caught entering the country illegally, or parents were detained separately from their minor children because the children had to be released. The administration chose the latter path which led to, well, mostly democratled protests across america, which ultimately drove the white house back to back down. It was a total mess. Congress has a chance to change the law, close the loopholes. Lets face it, they couldve tightened the asylum process and expedited the deportation hearings. But they chose to do nada. How brave. We have a broken immigration system. Doesnt work for anybody. Least of which is to control our border. And so when we get to the moment where were actually solving this problem, which i would prefer sooner rather than later, i would think its going to gravitate around these four pillars. Laura but then came a typical sneak move that we expect from democrats but not from the president s own party. Before running to the airport today for their working august recess, the house held a sneaky vote on a Homeland Security appropriations bill that will only end up adding to our problems at the border. The amendment basically codifies daca and was the brainchild of congressman david price, a democrat from north carolina. Wasnt just david price. G. O. P. Congressman kevin yoder, the allimportant chair of the Homeland Security subcommittee, was also in full support of the idea. Especially this part that made it easier for Illegal Immigrants to claim asylum if they credibly fear gangrelated or Domestic Violence. Kevin yoder claims he was moved to change his position due to the influence of his mother. He said as the son of a social worker, i have great compassion for those victims of Domestic Violence anywhere, especially as it concerns those nations who turn a blind eye to crimes of Domestic Violence. Forgive me, congressman, i appreciate your personal story, but your Family History shouldnt be allowed to thwart the president S Immigration agenda. And frankly, imperil the partys prospects in the midterms. Until 2016, asylum was traditionally reserved for those in fear of persecution for things like their religious, their political or their ethnic background. Not due to ones fear of crime or the threat of Domestic Abuse in his or her home, as horrible as that is. If the new barometer for asylum status is whether a foreigner feels safe in his or her home country, we should might as well throw the borders wide open. It doesnt matter if you have a wall or no wall. Hundreds of millions of asylum requests are going to come pouring in. Now, its worth remembering the center for Immigration Studies estimates if this house language like that in the gang of eight bill were to prevail in the senate, we could be looking at 32 million new voting age adults living in the United States by the year 2036. Democrats want desperately to replace americans more conservative electorate with foreign, younger, usually more socially liberal voters. What does that mean . Ill tell you one thing it means no more donald trump. Big business will revel in the glut of low skilled workers in the midst of what they claim is a labor crunch. They wont have to raise wages much, which they are starting to do now. They are having to do it to fill the jobs. That means more profit for themselves. Beyond the tears, the meltdown, and a lot of sad stories, some sob stories, its critical for republicans not to cave to the democrats on immigration. This is just a desperate play by the resistance because trump is beating them on the economy. The future is pointing north. Up 232 points. The markets are loving it. We are on our way. If we back up to the january highs. We may have 5 gdp growth coming friday. Laura because their phony russia collusion pipedream is crumbling. There is just not a lot in the trump collusion bucket to look at. Laura and because they are incapable of separating the president from his base. According to the new nbc news wall street journal poll, 88 of republicans approve of the job President Trump is doing. The only president with a higher Approval Rating was in their own party at this point in their presidency, it was president george w. Bush less than a year after 9 11. Laura now is not the time for republicans to give in on Immigration Enforcement or melt because of the cheap emotional media games. By the way, games that are only reserved for noncitizens. Nd it was President Trumps get tough approach on immigration, his relentless focus on the American Worker, the american family, that helped him win the election against all odds. Michigan, wisconsin, ohio, pennsylvania. Giving into the melodrama of the moment is not the way to go. In fact, that will end up further burdening the american taxpayer who was already fed up with a political system that sometimes makes them feel like secondclass citizens. I know, mr. President , you will not them down. And that is the angle. Joining me now for reaction iS Immigration attorney Michael Wildes who is the author of the new book safe haven in america battles to open the golden door. Our friend Alan Dershowitz wrote the forward to it. And dinesh dsouza, a filmmaker whose new movie is in theaters august 3. Were looking forward to that. His accompanying book comes out on the same day. All right, a lot to unpack. Dinesh, lets start with you. This is the kind of story i think republicans always have a hard time with because nobody likes to see a child crying because he or she misses his mother or his father. It tugs at everybodys heartstrings. Mine. I am a mom. You are a dad. It has hard stuff to see but this problem was brought on by politicians who refused to do the work they were supposed to do. Now the american people, as usual, are supposed to pick up the tab for your reaction to all of this. Well, i think on the one hand, there is grief but there is also the manipulation of grief. The politics, if you could call it, of moist eyes. This isnt just the democratic party. Its also the media which frames these images. Its not that the republicans are insensitive. The republicans are scared of being portrayed as insensitive. The democrats are using that charge, even though at heart they know its fake. What i mean by that is look, we live in a world in which a lot of these problems, gang violence, Domestic Violence, these are epidemic particularly the favelas in brazil, the slums of bombay, all over china. These are global problems. America has never taken the position that our doors are open worldwide to anybody who is suffering from these problems. We create very carefully carved out exceptions, for example, political persecution or as you said earlier, religious persecution. That is it. But the democrats are using the fact that they are able to dramatize these problems on our border to create a kind of emotional stampede. Republicans feel politically defensive, run for the exits, the kind of familiar invertebrate fashion. Laura kevin yoder, congressman, i dont know him from adam. His mother was a social worker. Thats interesting and im glad she was a social worker, but that has nothing to do with our u. S. Immigration policy. For some reason, donald trump had him on air force one last week. Great guy. Give me 5 billion for the wall. Its not going to matter if we have tens of millions of people all across the country. 45 countries, Michael Wildes, where Domestic Abuse is generally not recognized as crime. 45 countries. Kuwait, saudi arabia, russia, qatar, haiti. On and on and on. Women do not get the same rights as women here in the United States and other developed countries against men who abuse them. Does that mean all of them can apply under kevin yoders new idea about asylum . That is madness. Thank you for having me on. Forgive my personal attire. I am running for mayor in new jersey and there was an event in my community and i came over here to join you. I am a law professor and adjunct to a law school. Political asylum is actually sacred law. Historically Domestic Violence has not yielded itself for a long time as the basis for political asylum. Theres an old battle cry between persecution and prosecution. If you are being persecuted, you apply for asylum at our door. If you are in fear of prosecution or you have issues with your home country, its not americas business. We have economic challenges for our own citizenry. Domestic violence is less of a case. Gang violence is a different predicate for asylum. There you have countries that enable narcos and the drug traffickers and they take no action. Muslim countries throughout the world where women are being abused and relationships for the government codifies it under sharia law and so forth. The real question is should americas golden doors be slammed shut when there are people that are trying to protect themselves. Laura i know we have iraqi christians, syrian christians, people throughout the middle east who have been waiting for years. The classic case of ethnic cleansing, religious cleansing taking place in Central African republics, sudan and throughout the middle east. We have taken you might know better. Very few. Just because you show up at our southern border and nbc is there to cover the sad story, that suddenly america says okay, were going to change our whole system, and we are going to throw open the door to every criminal victim in the world. Let me read this. I want you to react. Credible fear applications since 2007. 5,171 applications for credible fear asylum request. 2016, 91,786. An increase of 1675 . Do you think there is any fraud there, dinesh . I would like to step back for a moment and look at this a slightly different way. The founders looked at america as a kind of moral community. A group of people who have a common set of values and a common destiny. Almost in some senses like an extended family. If someone came banging on your door and said listen, i am in fear because im being chased by a gang, i would submit that the ordinary person would be a little skeptical before giving them asylum, before saying come in. You can move in because you have a credible fear. Its now become our responsibility. Most people would say wait a minute. I have a direct obligation to my own. As for others, coming in from the outside, i am sympathetic. But on the other hand, its not necessarily my problem. At the very least, our democratic system has to go through the legislative process to decide what we do with such people. Ultimately the decision is with congress, but this idea that somehow because the media dramatizes a hardluck story, that the idea that somehow the republicans have to run for cover, this is in a sense political theater. Laura michael, we have a 311,000 applicant backlog as of january of this year. We have an overall backlog of 700,000 in general immigration applications. Jeff sessions said we are trying to make progress, but we cant keep up with it. At some point, it swamps the whole system, costing a huge amount of money that most people watching the show tonight are like, i dont want to pay for this. Two points. Laura were out of money here. We all agree, the gentleman speaking, congress should set the policy. We dont want the attorney general or the cops, the i. C. E. Agents to be executing on asylum laws. That should be in the courts. And certainly, they should have set up enough judges to adjudicate these cases so you dont have children without representation and you dont have families being separated. The real issue here is a few weeks ago you said if the republicans arent going to work with the democrats, then do nothing. Here they are beginning to work with each other but you are not liking what they are doing. Guess what. Congress, its their job. We all agreed that they have to fix this. Laura why did they have no vote on this . Why no vote . Why are they running out of town for their august recess . They did this sneak vote and they run out of town. We called all the democrats today, no one would come on the show. I have always been disappointed with members of congress. Laura they are all afraid. They dont want to defend this. Its indefensible. Its indefensible. Yeah. They are running home to vacation or campaigns. They do not want to defend. We are out of time. We are out of time. Well do a longer segment. Michael cohen its reportedly claiming tonight that donald trump knew of the infamous 2016 trump tower meeting with russians ahead of time. But there may be one big problem with cohens allegations. Details next. Be one big problem with cohens allegations. Details laura breaking tonight michael cohen, President Trumps a wildfire in Shasta County in northern california, a bulldozer operator has been killed and three firefighters are injured. There are reports of People Living in the area suffering burns while fleeing the fastmoving flames. The extent of their injuries are unknown at this hour. Dozens of homes and buildings including a historic schoolhouse has been destroyed. The socalled car fire is taking everything down its path and reached redding. The california Highway Patrol are urging people if they see heavy smoke or flames and not wait for evacuation calls. The 45 square mile fire tripled in size overnight on thursday. Hot temperatures, low humidity are making it hard to gain the upper hand there. Stay with Fox News Channel and foxnews. Com for more on the the story. Now back to regular programming. I have always thought that if mueller believes that cohen was somehow the key to proving a collusion case against trump, there is no way he lets that case walk to the Southern District of new york. I would be surprised if this amounts to anything that is serious in the way of collusion, like an espionage conspiracy. The trump tower meeting is bad. Its not collusion in the sense that they were, that they opened the investigation over it. Laura andy, hold on. Andy. Andy. As we talk about this, i think we forget Hillary Clinton paid for dirt. That was assembled by the russians in the form of the steele dossier. She actually went further than meeting with someone. Her people paid for it. They got dirt and it ended up making it all the way through the u. S. Government. Big deal. Look, i dont think its bad if campaigns are turning to foreign governments for dirt. Its not collusion. Its not something thats impeachable. It is icky. Thats what this is. Laura kimberley, lets go to you on this. Rudy giuliani was on cnn when this came out and he had a comment about the, well, the veracity of mr. Cohen. Lets watch. Theres nobody i know that hasnt warned me that when youre back us up against the wall, he will lie like crazy. Hes lied all his life. Laura wow, a war of words. That seems like cohen would release more information. The kind of guy you want as a lawyer, right . I think the issue here is youve got to decide whether or not you believe cnn reporting. There has been a lot of breathless reporting out there that has turned out not to be correct. Then, even if it is correct, you have to decide if you believe mr. Cohen. Now versus what, as andy said, he mightve said in the past. And whether or not there is any evidence, which apparently there is not in which case this may come down to a case of he said versus three others. Saying the opposite. If what andy said is true, it looks icky but the bigger point is is there a crime . Obviously its not a crime for trump, jr. To meet with this Russian National and find out what she had to talk about. Its also not a crime for mr. Trump to have had prior knowledge of it either. Mr. Trump sr. , the president. The question, has he ever under oath said he didnt know . Any situation where he might be viewed as having lied to federal law enforcement. Im not sure thats the case. Its another potentially bad headline if its true, but im not necessarily sure its any legal jeopardy. Laura andy, the veselnitskaya woman was there to push the magnitsky act. She was trying to get him to Push Congress on that magnitsky act because of russian adoptions. The whole thing, it has nothing to do with hillary. Big scam, big play. Sounds like they were played in that meeting. Jared was bored. He got up. Manafort walked out. It was a big nothing. If this is where they are, on this level, were going to get to the twitter issue in a moment. What does it tell you about the state of the Mueller Investigation . Seems to me the Mueller Investigation is winding down to a conclusion. That investigation of that indictment they brought recently against the 12 russians who are actually intelligence officers, i dont think thats the kind of thing you should indict. Putting that aside, if you read the indictment and the logic of it, it kind of excludes the possibility that there could have been the kind of espionage conspiracy everybody was so whipped up about that because he investigation a start in the first place and led to muellers appointment. If it is winding down, i sure hope its winding down laura a report out today that mueller is looking through the president s tweets. Who thought he wasnt . Who thought he wasnt . I have been looking at them too. Kim, have you been looking at them . Laura i have to play this for you. Preet bharara was on cnn today with wolf blitzer and they were excited about the tweet story. Lets watch. The tweets he sends late at night and early in the morning, often out of anger, go some way to showing what is state of mind was and to prove obstruction im quoting giuliani. If youre going to obstruct justice, you do it quietly and secretly, not in public. What do you make of it . Yes. What Rudy Giuliani says is the norm. This president likes to break norms. Maybe he likes to violate the law in ways that break norms as well. Laura kimberly. The cheerleading here is extraordinary. We have been witnessing this now for going on two years, and as i just said, headline after headline saying oh, definitely collusion. And then oh, obstruction of justice. Really it will only be a few weeks now. Look what mueller is looking at now. Nothing has come of it so far. Other than those indictments weve had related to charges that have nothing to do with either of those two central topics or anything that the press is actively pressing for. So i agree with andy. I wish if mueller has decided that trump is not a target, that hes not going down the road, that even if he is still wrapping up his probe that he feels he had a duty to tell the country the president is no longer a target so people can start to move on. Laura andy, they said this is where they are looking over tweets, it is like the dread. Its ridiculous. Im sorry. Now we are in tweets . Interviews . Its public staff. How are you obstructing an investigation with Public Comments . I am not following that. I guess its possible but i dont follow it. The whole thing is preposterous because with due respect to preet, the state of mind or a criminal state of mind is irrelevant unless youve done something that can amount to obstruction. The president cannot obstruct justice by taking lawful actions that are within his constitutional prerogative, like pardoning people or firing comey or weighing in on whether somebody should be prosecuted, which prosecutors across this country do every day. Laura or complaining that Jeff Sessions didnt recuse himself. Thats have not obstructing justice. Its an opinion. I understand the style problem. They dont like the way trump goes about things. You still have to kind of prove the thing thats a crime before you start worrying about what somebodys state of mind was. Laura a former u. S. Attorney in new york like Preet Bharara should know better. I know hes on cnn, but youve got to know, you cant say that on television. Fantastic conversation. Thank you so much. I want everyone to stay there because we have some big breaking news out of north korea we are going to bring you in just a matter of moments. Laura some breaking news out of north korea. The white house saying a u. S. Air force plane has now left north korea containing the remains of fallen u. S. Service members from the korean war. Approximately 5300 american soldiers remains have not yet returned home from that war. Its an important, very positive first step as the u. S. And north korea continue negotiations on denuclearization. And in other news, mad maxine is at it again. She has moved on from calling for her acolytes to attack Trump Officials wherever they are to now saying her opposition to all things trump comes from a higher power. [indistinct] laura her own version of the crusades. The latest language comes after Judicial Watch found an ethics complaint against her inciting violence against the trump cabinet. Lets bring in the man behind the effort, tom fitton, president of Judicial Watch. I know you have been all over this call to declassify the fisa documents. Now youre on onto the maxine story. Is this kind of a publicity stunt for Judicial Watch or is it a real thing . I saw her call on people to get a crowd together if you see a cabinet member of the trump team, if they are at Department Stores or restaurants or a gas station, get a crowd together, push back and tell them they are not welcome. That is kind of inciting a riot. We filed this complaint. Its easy to figure out whether or not comments like that reflect credibly on the house, which is the rule. Of course, they dont want to do anything about it. Another member said maybe we should censure her. That has gone nowhere. Laura how has that gone nowhere . She is kind of an icon to the left. She is protected in her own way. She is elderly, so you dont want to make her a bigger story. Is that the reason no one wants to move on censuring her . Without saying it explicitly, she was saying get them. I think it is fearbased decisionmaking by the republican leadership. Laura we want to hear the audio and then we want to hear what you have to say. Lets watch. People want to see us be stronger and forceful and confront them on these policies. If you see anybody from that cabinet in a restaurant, in a department store, at a gasoline station, you get up and you create a crowd. You push back on them. They have to absolutely harass them until they decide that they are going to tell the president no, i cant hang with you. Laura i like the nbc anchors. They just sit there. They are like mannequins. They dont say anything. Wait a second, congressman, theres no push back by these people on these other networks. Imagine if conservatives said that about other people . Harassing public officials. The house is going to let her use her position in the house to really attack people in inappropriate ways and incite violence. I think it is inciting violence and i would like the house to grapple with it. It is fearbased decisionmaking by the house. Laura you are being nice. They are wimps. They are wimpy. They dont want to confront Maxine Waters or rod rosenstein. Laura theyre afraid of this asylum thing. On this asylum issue, you have congressman yoder who threw trump 5 billion for the wall and wants to institutionalize daca, codify daca, and open up asylum to anyone who claims a criminal element in this country or their country. Gang or Domestic Violence. How are we supposed to verify that . That was never asylum. It was racial or ethnic or political or religious persecution. Now it is if my country is too violent. If you have a bad home life, you get asylum. Laura these are republicans going it because theyre afraid of the emotional argument. The reason immigration is controversial is because politicians want to do something people dont want them to do. Its always going to be controversial. Laura tom fitton, thank you. Joining us now is former oversight chairman jason chaffetz. He has had many threats directed against him personally while he was in congress. We are joined by democratic strategist and radio talk show host garland nixon. Great to see you. Jason, things have gotten way out of hand. We cant have a person walk into a restaurant wearing a make America Great again hat without being verbally assaulted. In some cases physically assaulted. If you support the president in a high school, you are called a racist, hater, xenophobic. There is free speech but there is not free speech. I think there are a lot of people who are just afraid. And they should be. After the Gabby Giffords incident, after Steve Scalise was shot and almost killed, other members that were targeted because they were republicans, then you have house members on the democratic side of the aisle basically, like Maxine Waters, inciting people to violence. This is the face of what the democrats are putting up. It is the resistance movement. Its antifa. Its targeted and aggressive and scorched earth. I have to tell you i was on the receiving end of lots of it. My family was subjected to things they should never be subjected to. Diane black in the last few days had somebody who was arrested for being aggressive against her. Its a very real threat. People are going to get hurt. Laura garland, this is one of the types of calls and i know democrats get hate stuff too. Im not saying its just republicans. Since trump, it has gotten worse. This is what jason was subjected to. Lets listen. I suggest you. [indistinct] [bleep] [bleep] and hang you from a lamp post you worthless piece of [ bleep ] laura your reaction to the climate we are living in. I think its terrible. But it really isnt new. I think in fact, i had some friends for years who worked for john conyers. I was aware of some very nasty calls that he got on a regular basis. It isnt new. I disagree with it. Lets not have a short memory. Lets not forget President Trump, during the election, was inciting people at his rallies laura that one comment . One comment. Thats all you have is that one comment. Im not here to defend anyone who is inciting violence because i disagree with it. But lets not try to pretend there is one party who has ever pushed this. Laura have you seen a concerted effort on the part of conservative activists to attack people in Public Places . Someone is eating with his or her child or family, having a quiet dinner, and shouting, screaming. Demanding and rattling, prattling on about all these points. Thats just not right. Right, and i absolutely agree. Laura that is all leftwing resistance dingbat stuff. I absolutely disagree with that because im a person, i am a kingesque person so i believe in nonviolence. Lets not forget with Michele Bachmann and the lock and load, this is not new. There has been dangerous rhetoric for many, many years and hopefully both parties and both sides will learn to calm it down. Doesnt seem like that is happening. But i oppose it. I think the people both sides of the aisle should step up to the plate. Laura jason. Those are nice words, but i dont see democrats who will call out Maxine Waters. If i do it as a republican, then i will get accused of being a partisan. But when she does that, i dont see a democrat who ever stands up and says you know what, thats wrong. Through all the campaign, all the trump, all the rhetoric, its a different scenario and someone is heckling the president , the candidate in front of tens of thousands of people. May not be excusable in your mind, but i went to trump rallies out there. Ive been with the nra rallies. You dont see this kind of stuff. I dont see the democrats stepping up and taking some ownership and saying you know what, folks . You have to tone it down. President trump said to beat people up and he would pay the bills. Laura that was one time. It wasnt smart. It wasnt smart but it was someone causing a huge ruckus to get camera. Got the better of him in the moment. Its not a concerted effort by the candidate. Debra messing of all people called me out on twitter saying that we should take him down. What does that mean . You want to take some people down. Its unbelievable, the number of celebrities will also engage in taking them down. Using language. Look at the cover of the latest magazines. Cutting off Donald Trumps head and mocking it with comedy. Laura again, we can say this morning, noon, and night, but if conservatives spoke like they do on a regular basis, physically approached people like they do on a regular basis, they will be holding candlelight vigils. The left melt on stuff like this, but they can do it. Maxine waters can say these things with complete and utter impunity. And we are supposed to say oh, its just maxine. Its ridiculous. If you are a democrat, you should be saying maxine, you are out of line. Be passionate and be out there, but you are out of line. You sound like a complete buffoon. Right now youre exercising your right to go after her. I am saying laura she is the toast of the town. She is all over democratic politics, garland. She is everywhere. Wasnt she at the oscars . Grammys. The woman is like the cause celebre in the democratic party. We will see if anything happens. We hope nothing violent happens, because that would be the real tragedy of all of this. Thank you so much to both of this. Coming up, the media on the left obsess over these socalled blue wave in the upcoming midterm, but they could be making a miscalculation of epic proportions. We will tell you why up next. Ma miscalculation of epic proportions. We will t your all you can eat riblets. Okay. Enjoy. Thanks. When i touch you like this and i hold you like that. Its so hard to believe but its all coming back me. Baby, baby, baby. If you touch me like this and when you hold me like that. All you can eat is back, baby. Applebees. Eatin good in the neighborhood. Laura the left is giddy about the prospect of a blue wave in november and they are devouring any tidbit of information that helps confirm that narrative. Case in point a new nbcmarist poll indicating sagging approval for President Trump in michigan, wisconsin, and minnesota. Critics couldnt get enough of it. Look at his Approval Rating in those states. In these new nbc polls. 36 , 36, 38 . That is bad news for republicans. Donald trump is getting crushed in polling in michigan and wisconsin which is part of why he offered a partial surrender today in his tariff war with europe. The president has no coattails. You used the right word. Devastating. They are in trouble right in the president s base. Laura but the democrats could be in for a rude awakening come november. Joining us now, someone with a warning to those folks, democratic pollster mark penn, along with tom bevan, publisher of real clear politics. Great to see you. Mark, lets start with you. Its commonly thought that most pollsters were wrong before the last election. However, on the popular vote, they were pretty close. Were they not, with Hillary Clinton . 2 , 3 . They missed it in key states like michigan, pennsylvania, ohio. Thats the whole shooting match. Nevertheless, when i saw them going frothy on the minnesota, wisconsin, michigan deal, what do we think now . In 2016, the only person to actually call the Electoral College right was Kellyanne Conway who was laughed off the set as she correctly predicted it. My point about these polls is, what happened in the election, the analysis was bad. What i see now is that the questions are bad. They are usually slanted, antitrump questions, so they dont see the narrative here. This is a divided country. Its close. I think there is a blue edge, but it is way too early to say theres a blue wave. Have to be very careful because these polls very rarely put the trump messaging and for testing. They dont ask about sanctuary cities. They dont ask about using tariffs as a wedge. They ask easy, layup questions designed to prove points they are making. Laura tom, the questions are things like do you support ripping babies out of the arms of mothers after they have crossed the border . No one is going to say yes, im in favor of that. But if you asked, should people be able to cross our border illegally and then get various benefits for having done so, they will say what . No, we dont want that. What of this and where are we right now . I think mark makes a great point. Its the numbers, but its also the framing. Let me give you an example. The nbc news wall street journal poll that came out after the helsinki summit and voters disapproved of it, that was a headline. The actual story, the real headline was that trumps Approval Rating has reached an alltime high for his presidency. It had ticked up. The framing around that was negative despite the fact there was good news for trump in there. In the last week or two, the democratic lead advantage in the generic ballot has ticked actually in favor of republicans by about a point. But i also agree with mark. The problem in 2016 was not the polls. It was the pundits. You wouldve thought that if we, the journalists laura dont look at me. Had learned anything from 2016, it would be not to over interpret, not to jump to conclusions. There is still three months left before the election. The other thing is that the economy is doing pretty well, and trump gets good marks on the economy. Over 50 in most polls. Jobs and the economy. And its the number one issue for voters. Laura that is key. Everyone focuses, mark, on the Approval Ratings. It should be over 50. Okay, fine. But he won the presidency with an Approval Rating of 36 . Could it be they are not wild about some of the stuff he does personally but they like the results he gets for the American Worker . Could that be maybe where we end up . If he ends up having a positive effect in some of these races . His personal rating in the harvard poll that we are coming out with is 41. His approval on the economy and terrorism is around 55. Are voters going to focus on whats going on with the economy or on what he does personally . That has always been the big question in trump. Clearly on election day, they focused a lot more on the issues. We dont know whats going to happen this time. Thats what makes it so fascinating. Thats my pundits have to be careful. When you look at the high Approval Ratings on the core issues, that means the president has got to be doing something right. There is a story line here that youve got to see. If you miss it and you are a democrat, boy, you will miss the whole election again. Laura tom, i was talking to hannity about this right before the election, when we were predicting trump was going to win and then right after the election. We both said thank goodness we host radio shows. We hear this stuff day after day after day. People say they are conservatives listening. No, they are not. Its an interesting crosssection of the country. Liberals will laugh if they are watching this. Listen and you will learn every now and then. Just listen. People were saying we dont care about this billy bush tape. We dont care about stormy daniels. They thought he might be kind of a bully but he is our bully. We are tired of being bullied by the experts and consultants and corrupt class. Hes going to fight for us. Thats what they were telling us on the radio. To this day, they are saying that. Maybe it wont add up to much in november. I dont know. But i can tell you, i do a daily focus group. In my listening audience, they are not listening to this. They dont care about this mueller stuff. They dont care about the cohen tape. They are like lets move on. Lets talk about immigration. Tom, close it out. Thats exactly right. Another interesting statistic, in 2016, donald trump got 90 of republican votes on election day. His Approval Rating in that wall street journal poll is 88 . On election day, he got 9 of democrats. 9 of democrats give him a favorable job Approval Rating. We have been in suspended political animation since the campaign. Despite all the controversy that surrounds the president , partisans on the other side have not budged. Theres been some wiggle room by independents in the middle and that might be what it comes down to on election day in november. Laura thank you. Demi lovatos overdose exposing another tragic truth of celebrity life. We will explain after this. Where were making the next generation of multiscreen welcadvertising possible. 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Tmz saying they had an emergency medication called narcan on hand. It is used to revive someone after overdosing. This story follows an alltoofamiliar pattern. Incredibly talented people surrounding themselves with hangerson and enablers. Often this ends in tragedy. Joining us now to analyze is counselor, drug counselor sonya veytsman. Sonya, we have had so many instances of people with immense talent who werent found alive. From belushi to of course prince and the list goes on and on and on going back decades. Now this. What is your take . Theres a misconception that fame or wealth can serve as a buffer against vulnerability for a Mental Illness or addiction. It doesnt. Psychologists have come up with a hypothesis called a diathesis stress model which sort of explains why certain vulnerabilities emerge. It talks about genetic predisposition combined with any sort of environmental stress and when it reaches the combination, it reaches a certain threshold, then Mental Illness or addiction can emerge. In this case of demi, shes been vocal about her father having a history of substance abuse. Laura sonya, ive got to ask, you counsel people who have drug problems. When you have a drug problem, and she has been very vocal about her own problems. She said, talked about her problems going back to 19 years of age. I was going to an airport. I had a sprite bottle filled with vodka. It was nine in the morning. She said she was throwing up in her car. She said she was about to get on a plane to l. A. To a sober living house she was staying at. She said i had all the help in the world but i didnt want it. Then the story of course about her friends out there parting with her. With the narcan. They know she is vulnerable. Presumably they are not totally dumb people though they sound pretty dumb. They know she could end up dead. This is who she is hanging out with. I dont know, her family has tried to intervene unsuccessfully. Who are these friends . Who are they . Part of managing drug addiction is avoiding triggers. So that people who abuse and people who would be a Bad Influence or people that are also under the influence of some substance and dont have the judgment. A big part of addiction is ambivalence. The new models of treatment really try to address that, things like Harm Reduction and motivational interviewing which looks to basically help people reconcile or address or resolve some of that ambivalence. Whenever someone is abusing drugs, typically there is a lot of conflict within them about continuing the drug use or whatever substance. Laura ive got to say i dont really understand. I am trying to follow what you are saying on that but drug ambivalence . She has an addiction problem. Heres ambivalence. There shouldnt be any, okay. Nothing is that simple, i know. But if you are an addict, the number one thing you have to do is what . This is your line of work. You have to not be with people who enable you, correct . There is something called secondary gain which talks about the benefit of using or doing something. So anyone thats abusing is gaining a benefit from it, and the benefit might be escape. It might be numbing the pain. Thats probably the reason thats driving them to do it. Sometimes that drive or dependence outweighs their desire to change. So thats why relapse is so commonplace. Laura what are the chances of relapse . We are almost out of time. If you go sober, relapse, chances, what percentage . Its a high likelihood. Counselors prepare are usually their patients for the likelihood of relapse. Laura thank you so much. Sad situation. We certainly wish her and her family the best. I want to say thank you to this president , donald trump, getting some of our war dead back from the korean war. People thought it was not going to be possible but it is happening and would not have happened without his leadership, Chuck Carlson served in the korean war and is watching tonight. We always honor our troops, think of you every day, thank you for your service to this country. Shannon is up next. Shannon we begin with a fox news alert, the president says we can expect terrific economic numbers while rallying the newly reopened skill plant hours ago but his personal attorney has another bombshell tonight and the Administration Says it has reunited all eligible immigrant families separated at the border but that is not enough for activists. Former acting director of ice live with reaction including what is next. Rosanne barr did her first tv interview with sean hannity since she was fired, she doesnt hold anything back. Welcome to fox news at night