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Voter base with Illegal Immigrants. Then with children and now with felons. Thats a motley crue. And another huge diplomatic win for trump. Rocket man might be becoming pocket man. Pledging to pocket all of his missiles, hey, and the guys havent even met yet. Maybe it was pompeo. Maybe he does have the magic touch. But, first, james comey might want to pull the plug on that book tour now that the former investigator himself is under investigation. Fox news has confirmed that the Justice Department Inspector General is investigating comeys handling of his memos describing his meetings with president trump. A source saying that the dojs watchdog is looking into whether the former fbi director leaked any classified information. Lets get into the details with attorney tom dupree who served as Principle Deputy sent a attorney general in the george w. Bush administration plus republican ron desantis who joins us from florida tonight and steven, a former federal prosecutor. Gentlemen, its great to see all of you. Steven, lets start with you here. Jim comey as former fbi director, perhaps thought that, look, im the fbi director. I can declare whats classified and declare whats not classified and so if i shoot these memos over to pal of mine at columbia law school, no big deal. He will give them to the press and it will cause a big stir and maybe my reputation bolstered maybe even start a special counsel. But, doesnt this mean that you know, comey could be in hot water now with this new investigation . Im not sure thats really the case, laura. Its important to remember exactly what we know here. We wont know for sure until the Inspector General has concluded its investigation about what all the facts are for sure. But the wall street journal has reported that there are only two memos that comey gave to his friend that had any classified information. One of them he went through and redacted out the classified information. And the other one wasnt classified at the time. It was only classified later on. So it seems like his course of conduct here was fairly inoffensive. You cant very well blame him if a document wasnt classified until a later point in time. That kind of retroactive liability, i think he could argue is unfair. Laura tom dupree is selfredaction legit here . He can we americans with disabilities act. Get it to my pal going to get it to the press. I will get my big sharpy and block out foreign intel names. Even comeys defenders would admit he is walking a very fine line here. The difference between criminal jeopardy and innocent is where you draw the line with the sharpy. My goodness. I wouldnt want to be in jim comeys shoes. Trying to see if he left something in that should have gone out the door. The newspaperrer general had no patience for andy mccabe. Is he in real trouble here. We will see if he has any criminal jeopardy there. Congressman desantis, lets remember what jim comey said back in june of last year when he was testifying on capitol hill about why he decided to transmit those memos to his friend. And i think we have the spot. Lets watch. My judgment was i needed to get that out into the public square. And so i asked a friend of mine to share the content of the memo with the reporter. Didnt do it myself for a variety of reasons. But i asked him to because i thought that might prompt the appointment of a special counsel. Laura for a variety of reasons, congressman. For a variety of reasons he also selfredacted at least one of the two memos. Its important to point out that that was malicious leaking of government documents. I asked Christopher Wray under oath is it appropriate for fbi agents to leak their work product to the press. And he said absolutely not. I do think he is facing exposure because some of that stuff very well may have been classified. But, at the end of the day, this is a guy who took those documents, he wanted to generate a special counsel, and its interesting you look at those memos, he actually writes down in the memos, i told the president i dont leak. The fact that he is writing that in the memo that he doesnt leak tells me probably was a habitual leaker. Laura actually, you bring up a great point, congressman. This is from the comey memo. This is from january 6th. Right after his first meeting at trump tower with the president. He said and he wrote he said i was eager to find leakers and nail one to the door as a message. Thats very dramatic. I said something about it being difficult he relied we red we need to create a narrow tifer that we need to investigate him and i worried such a thing would be misconstrued. He kept as congressman desantis said, he went out of his way a number of times to say to the president , he said, he claims in this memo that im not a leaker. You can trust Andrew Mccabe, he is a standup guy and i dont leak and mccabe is in your corner. Memos to the file were written by people to do what, steve . To do what . I think probably to memorialize the conversation so that there can be no doubt later on if it comes up what exactly was said and what wasnt said. I think this course of conduct shows that comey was a bit concerned about a potential obstruction of justice. He knew there was a big trophy about it. He knew it might become important later on to know exactly what was said and wasnt said. He want to contemporaneously document it so there would be no doubt. Laura on january 6th he was worried about obstruction of justifiable . I think quite possibly. If you take a look at his whole course of conduct. Laura why do you work for this man . If you think he is obstructing justice awnged are sitting there and im looking forward to staying on with you, and im looking forward he said what your plans . I enjoy my job. I would like to stay on. Thats why Mollie Hemingway today wrote this whole thing smells like a big set up. The whole meeting talking about thes to yea, rattle trump or try to rattle him. We dont know if its true. There is this thing and looks like they are saying. This tom, your reaction . It is puzzling. The administration is just Getting Started and already the fbi director is memorializing for whatever his purposes were. Laura you dont memorialize to make yourself look bad. You memorialize to make yourself look good. I think thats fair. This is exceedingly unusual. I cant imagine any other administration where a few days in you have someone needing to create this sort of record. There is unusual things going on here. Laura congressman desantis, there is a comey point in these memos that talked about cnn. I want to read it he says i said media like cnn had them. The memos. And were looking for a news hook. I said it was important that we not give them the excuse to write that the fbi halls the material or thats redacted, and that we were keeping it very close hold. He said he couldnt believe they hadnt gone with it. And i said it was inflammatory stuff and they would get killed for reporting straight up from source reports. And then bing divo, just a few days later, congressman desantis, cnn runs with it and then it gets published elsewhere. This is why people were saying, again, the way this is written, this memo to the file, i said cnn would be crazy to put i dont know. If you are writing a novel here, yeah, there is the cnn headline until chief presented trump with claims. Russian efforts to compromise him. Where door they get that from . Where do they get that headline from. Just think about it. Jim comey this is a guy who never memorialized any wufertion with barack obama. He never did with Loretta Lynch. Even though he now says Loretta Lynch was conflicted. It was only from day one with donald trump. That meeting to me is very fishy. Jim clapper, i and most of my republican colleagues believe is the one that actually leaked the existence of the meeting to cnn. But, why would comey have. Laura how do you know that . Why do you think that . Based off the Intelligence Committee what they were able to come up with and they allude to it in their report. But, thats just out inference i make. I have think he was the guy. Now, heres the deal, comey acknowledges that its not news worthy at the time they needed a hook. What does he do . He gist them the hook. So either him and clapper knew this together or maybe he was acting at clappers suggestion. But he provided the hook for that to go out and when is he briefing donald trump on it i only talks about the one salacious allegation. He didnt discuss other aspects of the dossier. Dont you think thats something the president elect should have been entitled to you know about . And, yet, comey hid that from him. This thing smells very badly and i think he is going to have to answer more questions about that. Laura he has to come back to capitol hill, does he not, steve . I think the point that congressman desantis is making is that when you go out of your way to bring up the dossier and you bring only one of the inflammatory elements of the dossier up. Thats rocket fuel. There is a lot of other stuff in the dossier. You bring up that one point. And we know now in hindsight that he was using that professor at columbia to then get information out to the press. So he had it in his mind couple months later to disseminate stuff to the press. He wanted to get out there. He wanted a special counsel appointed. Why wouldnt it be logical now to think huh, maybe he and clapper chatted about this. You know, we got to get this out. I mean, trump is rattled about this. Set up artist is another persons, you know, whistle blower. Here is a lifelong republican who was promoted by republican president s and whose handling of the clinton email investigation at least his public handling of it arguably was very much to clintons detriment. Got a motive to im not sure that he has got the motive to do this setup job that were speculating about. Laura Hillary Clinton got off scotfree in this investigation. The Clinton Foundation investigation was totally scochesd ultimately. The idea that he like helped hillary, i never bought that argue Hillary Clinton if she were i didnt know else could be in jail right now. What im suggesting is that a prosecutor would just simply announce we are not bringing charges. He wouldnt go on to say but she was extremely reckless. Laura because she was. He had to say that. Well, im not sure. I think you can make an argument. Argumentlawye. Laura hammerhammer blackberries . Shows he was not proclinton. Laura i see this as comey has shown us if he wants to get information to the press he will figure out a way to do it. Now, that was a couple months later. He hated donald trump. Today he said on an interview or yesterday oh, no, i dont hate him. I didnt even dislike him. Oh, please he walked into that trump tower meeting. Everything about trump he despises, the way he cress, the why he speaks. He probably doesnt think he is as educated as he is. He has you will. He is a lush republican. Condescending supe supercilious and priggish. Donald trump is a different guy. One of the tragedies here, laura, historically, the reasonable why the fbi has been held in such esteem by the American Public they have been viewed as independent Law Enforcement agency. What jim comey is doing now undercuts that what it is is portraying a former fbi director as a partisan actor, as someone who has a political ax to grind. He is going to be the talk shows and taking personal jabs at the president. It may be satisfying to him and people who dont like the president. For purposes of the American Peoples perception of the fbi. I think it disserves the institution frankly. Laura fantastic panel. A related development Rudy Giuliani now has confirmed that he has joined trumps legal team to negotiate the end of special counsel bob muellers probe. Good luck. Rudy giuliani apparently is looking to use his personal relationship to mueller to smooth things over. Okay. Joining us now is someone who also knows bob mueller former attorney general mike mukasey who held that position which mueller was fbi director. General mukasey, judge mukasey, you were on radio with me this morning and on tv tonight. Its like we are playing the whole day today, i love it . Me too. Laura judge, lets talk about this wild day. Now we have an investigation going on at the ig, a criminal referral of Andrew Mccabe who is, of course, comeys deputy. Now the insuranc inspector genes investigating whether comey knew some of this information was classified when he transmitted it to his pal at columbia. Yeah, i think we ought to put to rest one of the things one of your guests said in the last segment. The mommies werent marked classified at the time. They were classified as soon as he wrote them. I had an experience when i started as ag on taking notes on a top secret procedure. And when i got up to leave the meeting, my chen chief of staff leaned over and wrote ts sci. Top secret. Secure deement mental. Those werent my notes they were the governments notes. They werent comeys memos they were the governments memos. If the information in them was classified was classified as soon as they put it down on paper. Laura he said they were personal reflections. Personal thoughts and reflects on the meeting he had with the president. Personal thoughts and reflections are fine. If they were personal thoughts and reflections about classified information, then they are classified. Personal thoughts and reflections. You cant simply take them out and leak them. Laura judge mukasey, you were attorney general when bob mueller was fbi director. And tell us a little bit about him. I know you had daily brief with him. You met at the white house with others with him on a weekly basis at least. What was it like . Thats an excellent question. The trouble is im not in much of a position to answer this. Although there were many people that i met with less frequently than i met with him, i really have very little in the way of insight into what he is like as a person. I didnt get to see that. Youll notice that he always wears button down white shirts. Well, he is very buttoned down and buttoned up. Its very hard to get a take on him as a person if he doesnt want to give it to you and he apparent live1 didnt want to give it to me. Laura when you oneonone conversations with him, did he seem like a straight up kind of guy . Because you were his boss. People forget the attorney general is the boss of the fbi director. We think of the fbi director as autonomous person. But you were his boss. And then, of course, president bush was, you know, his ultimate boss. Nominally i was his boss. There were situations in which he performed superbably in helping to try to convert the fbi from simply a crimesolving organization into an intelligence gathering organization. That was a tough sell to a lot of people. And we had to put in place guidelines that, i along with others at the department drafted and gave to him. And he helped put them in place and did a superb job at it. However, when there were questions some policy questions where i questioned him about things the fbi was doing, he pushed back. And he was somebody who was very devoted to defending the interests of the bureau. There was a saying at the fbi, never embarrass it bureau. And bureaucratic thing and they call it the federal bureau of investigation for a good reason its a bureaucracy. He defended it. Laura were these disputes about the way he was handling certain types of investigations . Im not going to get into what it was about. But there was push back in the interest of defending what the fbi was doing. Laura who was his deputy back then . I cant remember who it was . What was it . You cant remember. Right. Laura i cant remember as deputy. It wasnt Andrew Mccabe. No it was not Andrew Mccabe. That, i can tell you. Laura as we close this out at the end of this week james comey been on this book tour that seems like its been going on for months but only really been going on a few days. Do you agree that the damage to the bureau is somewhat significant given the fact that he led this agency and now he is, clearly administrativinstraffingthe pre. I think the damage is auto nor must because the head of the organization becomes the figure head that everybody looks to to judge how the organization performs. His handling in particular, everybody has their own favorite issue, mine is with his handling of the clinton email investigation. Bass an outrageous performance. President obama will was sending messages and receiving messages on Hillary Clintons private email server. Jim comey knew that. And when president obama went on television and said there is no issue here. She doesnt really intend to cause harm. What he was saying in essence is you better let her off if you wind up accusing her, you accuse me. The notion this was something he had to do for the welfare of the country is a lot of disenjustous clap trap. Laura i love that word. Under used words and its one of my favorites. Of course you use it judge, thank you very much. You have to wonder if the democrats drank their own koolaid here. Their latest stunt may be proof that their obsession with russian collusion is making them totally lose their mind. Im going to diagnose this latest insanity in the angle. Stay there. We had long deployments in iraq. Im really grateful that usaa was able to take care of my family while i was overseas serving. It was my very first car accident. We were hit from behind. I called usaa and the first thing they asked was are you ok . they always thank you for your service, which is nice because as a spouse you serve too. Were the hayles and were usaa members for life. See how much you could save with usaa by bundling your auto and home insurance. Get a quote today. But, look, should we really be surprised by any of this . The wage and the fury on the left over trumps election, and their frantic search for something, anything to explain why Hillary Clinton lost has become a total obsession. They thought coat lucien would invalidate the election. There is, however, extensive press reporting on the relationships between the russians and the individuals associated with both the Trump Campaign and the incoming administration. We note russians played a very significant role in the campaign. So you have seen direct evidence of collusion . I dont want to go into specifics, but i will say that there is evidence that is not circumstantial. Ive always said that i believe there was collusion. Laura poor aunte maxine after all these months and special counsel and congressional investigation too numerous to count, what have they actually found . A multimilliondollar pile of nothing. Well, good luck to the dnc in trying to make a case in court with these star witnesses. Have you seen any evidence that this dirt, these emails were ever given to the Trump Campaign . Not so far. Any reflection of collusion between members of the Trump Campaign and the russians, there was no evidence of that, included in our report. I understand that. But does it exist . Not time. When yonot to my knowledge. U Trump Campaign and russian state actors . As i said, gowdy, i dont do evidence. Laura there is a lot apparently that john brennan doesnt do. That is just a joke. Now, just imagine the discovery process, that this foolishness ever made it to trial . Like what if the defense demands to see the dnc servers that they claim wikileaks hacked . You know, the servers, the democrats refused to let the fbi examine . And that the fbi for some strange reason neglected to subpoena. Whats on those servers, the dnc is so desperate to keep hidden . Also, how about this scene on the witness stand . Does the name Christopher Steele ring a bell, mrs. Clinton . How about his dossier . Does the dnc really want to go down this road . For a media apparatus that has been predicting huge wins for months. Evidence for democrats to be optimistic as their chances for a big blue wave. Big blue wave is now looking so big, so overwhelming. And we fell short but next year, watch out. Next year is gonna be a blue wave. Laura this absurd lawsuit which reads like a first year law student shows that democrats arent sure the wave may not just flatten out before it hits the shore. At this point, when you really look at the totality of all of this, rather than looking like a party that has the wind at its back this year, the democrats increasingly look like a party desperately trying to find its own identity and relevance. And trump, meanwhile, chalks up win after win on things like trade, north korea, and, yes, the economy. Now, my personal advice to democrats is this keep doing what youre doing because American People are a lot smarter than you give them credit for. I actually look forward to their final ruling on this latest complaint of the democrats and all those that preceded it come this november. And thats the angle. Joining me now for reaction is sean duffy, a republican congressman from wisconsin. And with me here in the studio is Philippe Reines advisor to Hillary Clinton 2016 campaign. Gentlemen, great to see both of you tonight. Lets start with you felipe, this lawsuit, i read all 64 pages. I mean its 64 pages. And its goofy. Are they going to serve like Vladimir Putin with papers . This to me looks like they are not getting what they want with the special counsel. The russia collusion is not going anywhere. Maybe something will happen with cohen. They have to desperately keep this thing going. Breathing more air on the fire until the mid terms. Is this the real deal or what. Well, im not a lawyer but i understand your point. You know, i dont know congressman did you havey. Bear with me while i make a point. He was elected in 2010. Laura you always do Little Research on the guests. I was hoping he would be here. Laura you pull that every time. You come out with a tid bit. I work with somebody who likes to be prepared. He won decency and you won handily your last two. With all due respect i hope you lose in november because im a democrat and i would like to flip the house. I want to you lose fair and square or win fair and square. I dont want anyone meddling. I know no one likes to admit that the problem we are in now is that it is such a Hillary Clinton blames russia thing that no one is talking about russians or chinese or North Koreans or whoever it may be screwing around with our election. And the point trying to make about the court is because its a republican congress, there are no bills to protect the election. This is something the lawsuit cant be fired. Laura go ahead, sean. Its outrageous. Its rich that the dnc is trying to file a lawsuit about russia collusion. The very dnc that hired and funded a dossier with information that came from russian informants. They are of the ones that colluded with the russians. Beyond that i dont know why they dont name barack obama who didnt do anything in the election of 16 to stop the russian involvement in the election or james comey who came out and did press releases on his investigation. But, frankly i think the dnc should have included garr garmin and google maps because Hillary Clinton couldnt find wisconsin on the map to campaign. To come and make up excuses why the democrats lost is pathetic. They had a bad message and bad candidate. Donald trump understood he had to go out and win the electorate with a set of ideas they bought into. Thats why we won. I agree with your point. I hope the democrats keep talking about russia. I hope they keep nancy pelosi in the leadership position because were focusing on ideas that grow the economy, that make peoples listlesz better and their families. And democrats cant get beyond why they lost the last elections and russia, russia, russia. Laura gloria was on espn today. This is what he shed about the lawsuit. Honestly, its just a way to raise money. Thats what they are trying to do is raise money off of it one more way to get into the act here and continue what they have been doing all along. Okay. Look, i would make two points. One is president trumps own Intelligence Community has said the russians are going to meddle in 2018. Unless the congressman doesnt agree with that i do think there has to be steps to protect. On the lawsuit thing, i will be honest with you, without being a lawyer, im glad the democrats are doing. This the Republican Party has very effective live used outlets like Judicial Watch and others. Laura media matters. Move on. Org. Think progress. Let me count the ways. But they dont sue. Judicial watch is very effective. Laura its foia requests. Talk about something thats kind of funnel. This is fun. For you. Laura no. Its fun. This is the new book out by amy of the new york times. And we have a couple of fun experts. I bet. Laura she covered Hillary Clinton for 10 years. The book is called chasing hillary, 10 years, two president ial campaigns and one intact glass ceiling. She lost because she woman, dont you know. This is one quote. This is what hillary says on election night. I knew it. I knew this would happen to me. Should i you do it in her voice . I knew this was going to happen to me. They were never going to let me be president. This is not gun lets hope the next part is fun. I wai was in the room. It was hard to take. And she knew immediately that a series of things. Laura why didnt she come out and do a concession speech. Both campaigns had agreed to wait until a. P. Called it. I was in the room when she called donald trump. Laura sean, ril real quickly. They the deplorables wouldnt let me win. Is she entitled to be the president of the United States of america . You earn the presidency. Did you go out and earn the vote. She thinks she is entitled they wont let me be the president. This quote encompasses everything thats wrong with Hillary Clinton. She felt shy could say im a clinton, bill was my husband and im entitled to win this election without working and givings a direction for the country frankly shameful. She will never go away. You are not letting her go away. Whats that . Laura this is amys book. Fox dont let her go away. Laura we didnt even get into the mention of you. We have a hard break on a friday night. Guys. We let you off the hook. Noipsz trying to rally the troops against tax cuts. What happens to that champ . When we get back. I have a little grievance against these animals. Laura oh, fine. All right. The numbers of these emotional support animals have gone through the roof, laura, 481,000 two years ago to 751,000 animals. Now, the reason people try to pass them off as emotional support animals, is because they fly free. Okay . All you have to do. Laura free . Alert the airline and present a paper from a medical professional showing that you need your emotional support animal. Now, the airlines are reacting. Because they have been mauling people on the planes. They leave droppings here and there, which contaminate the plane. Laura so do the passengers. I have seen some of these passengers lately show up in pajamas for flights. They have to fly but not so for the animals. Read that statement for the airline. Laura here is the American Airlines for america lobby group. Airlines have experienced a surge in passengers bringing animals on board that havent been appropriately trained as service animals. This has resulted in our crew members and passengers being bitten and subject to other offensive and injurious behavior. Oh, they need to lighten up. I would rather be sitting next to most dogs than some of the other people. This woman tried to get a peacock on a southwest airline and she was denied. Laura peacocks need to fly. Thats antintsb bias. I have one to top you. My friend walter said look up old wall street journal article we did. Read this and have some video for you. This man brought a miniature horse onto the plane. This was the article. Pox was traveling with a miniature service horse. The horse had a Bowel Movement on the carpet of the bulk head. Service had to do excessive cleaning in order to leave for the next flight. We found i had video of a woman who had miniature horse emotional animal in her home. Look, its opening the refrigerator for her. I mean, come on. Laura they are making your point. It can do pretty much anything. It cant be on a plane with me, laura. There is barely enough space for me at this point. Laura i want more support animals. One woman let me hold her dog as she went to the bathroom. She came back, this is on a delta flight. She came back and i said can i hold the dog for the rest of the flight she said sure. I held the dog. You are the dog support animal. Laura i help the dogs. Wear one of those things that say do not support emotional support animal. Laura when a chant is not a chant. When a chant is not a chant. Laura democrats seem to have trouble and do so do republicans coming up with new chants. You pointed this out nancy pelosi was at a tax rally this past week and it was saying that democrats are going to raise taxes on the rich. Republicans are letting the rich get off scottfree, lets hear some of this blame chant. We can thought let it stand. We wont let it stand. We wont let it stand. We wont let it stand. We wont let it stand. Repeal the tax trump replace the ones that passed it repeal the ta the trump tax, rereplace the ones that passed it. Boy is, that bad. These are not chants. These are not great chants. Laura i lost my chain of thought. Its you cant remember it. Its so long. They could try to sing it in a meter. A chant has to have rhyme. It should have a certain musicality. It should be memorable. And i will add passionately delivered. None of which you could accuse those chants. Laura it should rhyme, what is it from the chant handbook . You. Im sharing this for you. Laura hell no, we wont go. That actually rhymes u give peace a chance. It had a song to it . I want to be bipartisan here. This is mitt romney listen to this supposed chantsd. Laura oh come on. Thats mean. [wait a second. Romneyryan. Romneyryan. Unmemorable chant if there ever was one. Laura vape shops everywhere. Everyone getting ready for the National Push on legalized marijuana. I agree with you. Laura put the pot in the vape . The chamber of the vape has a liquid component. Now, these 63 of young people, laura, teens and those in high school believe that the vape, 63 , that ecigarettes and vapes do not contain nicotine amend they andd for your health. In twattl actuality the liquid cylinder contains as much as a pack of cigarettes. They are very addictive and i think you are right. This is a precursor getting them ready to put other substances into that vape. Theyre not supposed to be selling this to people under 18. Some manufacturers require they be 21 before they use the vape. Laura remember now john boehner used to be against medical marijuana. Now suddenly he is in this alternative acre. Some pot lobbying group. Pot advocacy group. He is on the advisory board. He was a big smoker as well as the merlot drinker. Maybe is he vaping the merlot now. That may be a good way for him to go. Laura its friday u its 11 00 somewhere. Thanks so much. Have a great weekend. Laura sounds like a bad parody of a deterrent ad. New and improved Democratic Party now featuring felons. Its no joke and were going to tell you why next. Laura now, we all know Many Democrats embrace illegal immigration to expand their voter base. The republicans like the cheap labor. This week we told you how the democrats in washington, d. C. May actually now start letting 16yearolds vote. Both in local and in national elections. And we now are ready to add felons . Oh, felons on parole to the base of the Democrat Party . I kid you not. Well, new York Governor Andrew Cuomo has recently issued an executive order giving 35,000 paroled felons the right to vote. Joining us now, someone who supports this proposal, im delighted he is with us, Corey Johnson who is the speaker of the new York City Council answered represents like the coolest part of new york. Greenwich village and hells kitchen. Thats like the coolest place to represent. I mean, come on. Im hanging out with you in new york next time i come. How are you doing, counts sillman . Good to see you. Very good. Thanks for having me tonight. Laura give us the sense behind the felons. These arent felons that are finished their parole. These are felons that are still within the penal system having to demonstrate good faith and lawfulness and so forth. These are folks that have been paroled. The parole board has made a decision they are not a risk and they are not incarcerated anymore. This isnt anything new. Ask 14 states allow this. Deep red states like utah and north dakota allow the same thing. So, deep blue states, hawaii and massachusetts, deep red states, north dakota and utah. This is about reenfranchising people, reintegrating people into civic life and studies show laura i dont mean to interrupt. But we have 76 , i believe, recidivism rate in new york state and similar across the country in the first five years of being released. So 76 go on to commit another crime, back in the penal system. Your argument tonight is by voting, theyre going to be drawn into this system. Its not one thing. There are multiple things. Probably the most important thing is getting people jobs. Its getting people who are let out of prison actually reintegrated. Having an income to support themselves. Laura i agree with you on that. Lets go through the other ways that felons forfeit various rights that are important to people like you and me and others. Holding many government jobs. They cant hold a lot of them as felons on parole. Certain Welfare Benefits are not able to get. Second amendment rights, no can do. And they are broadly excluded from running for office, mr. Speaker. So, would any of those rights, would you submit should also be, you know, given back to felons that are on parole, Second Amendment rights . Could they run for your position, for instance, as speaker or as Council Member . Sadly, in certain places, they actually can. In new york, if you are a convicted felon, you can run for office, which im not sure thats a good idea and there are probably some constitutional issues involved. But, right now if you are a parolee, there could be curfew requirements. There could be Drug Treatment Program requirements. Things that have to do with Public Safety. Allowing someone to vote does not endanger the Public Safety anyway. Own a gun, as you just mentioned . Public safety issue. Laura isnt this a way to get votes you . Are so wellspoken and such an interesting person on so many levels. You are hilarious. I watched where were you going when you were dancing in a taxi recently in that video. Im always happy to sing lady gaga with you. Laura that was hilarious. Laura friday im in love. Listen to that acoustic, my friend. Thats the best version of that song. But, i digress, because right now a lot of the people think Governor Cuomo is just trying to its whether its the Illegal Immigrants or i am woman. He said today im a woman. Lets watch that for our viewers who missed that, lets watch. Im undocumented. You want to deport an undocumented person . Start with me. Because im an undocumented person. Laura well, we dont have the part where he said im a woman. He said im a woman. What was that . That was a curious i like to be all things to all people but you literally cannot be, mr. Speaker, your reaction to that . I think this is about in many way as the point he was trying to make though im not sure, im guessing, has to do with intersectionality. Identifying with folks who have been disenfranchised. Governor cuomo helped pass gay marriagpasssame sex marriag. George will spoke recently in favor, ensuring that people who have prison in florida going to be Ballot Initiative there get the right to vote. Laura after parole. After parole, correct . Thats his point, i believe . Have you seen Jared Kushner speak out in favor of susan collins, republican senator. Ainsley prison reform. You have seen rand paul talk about getting rid of mass incarceration rates. You have seen the Koch Brothers talk about the cost of prison. Lawyer lawmaker when you start citing Koch Brothers im worried. They are like out boogie man. You look at states like utah and north dakota. Laura how many felons do they have in utah. Probably 35,000 in a state. I cant imagine its even 35,000. Look, i think the issue is expanding voter rolls. Why do it by executive order . Why not go to the legislature and make the case for this to the people of new york. Maybe the people in new york will be fine with this. We should have a segment on why the Trump Administration do everything by executive order . Why are cabinet secretary changing the rules. Laura yeah. By executive order or by fiat. Laura whats good for the goose is good for the gansder. Thanks for coming on tonight. Im coming to do lady gaga in the cab with you. 100 percent. Thank you for having me. Im really grateful. Laura hard break. Well come right back. De in the aisle without starting any conversations or paying any upcharges. What can i say . Control suits me. Go national. Go like a pro. Laura there was another National Student walkout today from school to protest gun violence. This one was timed to cosign side with the 19th anniversary hard to believe with the shootings at Columbine High School in colorado. Joining to us discuss how to make schools safer is darrell scott. Darryl is the father of rachel scott the first victim of the Columbine High School shooters in littleton, colorado. Darrell, its so great to talk to you. We have so many friends in common and im so bowled over by everything have you done in these 19 years. Im sure to you it seems like yesterday. And you run this foundation called rachels challenge. Tell us how you think its the best way to proceed to actually stop these School Shootings. Well, thank you, laura, its great to be here with you. I really wants to applaud young people as far as wanting to make a difference and for marching for what they believe in. I want to just gentlely challenge them to focus on more than just focusing on gun control. The shooters 19 years ago said in a camera you are going to change the gun laws and add more gun laws its not going to stop People Like Us from doing what we do. Im as passionate about change as these young people are. In fact, when the cameras go away, when the passion dies down, my challenge to all the young people is to maintain their desire to end the violence. And our family has chosen to do that over the last 19 years. We created a program for schools. We reach about 1 million to 2 Million Students each year. Over 22 million over the last 19 years. We have seen seven School Shootings prevented and seen an average of about three suicides prevented every week. Far more suicides than there are School Victims of School Shootings. Laura right. We have done that through a message of kindness, compassion and helping connect people to one another. Because, when theres violence or when there is reaction to these kind of situations, we can do one of three things. We can hate and we can retaliate. Dr. King told us that hate will not remove hate. Only love can do that. So we can hate and retaliate. We can debate and demonstrate. Or we can relate and communicate. And relating and communicating is what our message has been. And we see the fruit of that. Laura i want to play for our viewers a description of rachels writing, your daughters writing. Lets listen. She understood the power that a simple act of kindness can have. I have this theory that if one person can go out of their way to show compassion, it will start a Chain Reaction of the same. You notate when most kids in high school are just trying to fit in, she just wanted to be herself and encouraged others to do the same. Laura now, i imagine although its hard to imagine, there probably isnt a 15minute period, a fiveminute period over the last 19 years where you didnt think about your daughter. Thats right. And, you know, there is a lot of attention being poured a lot of money is being poured into the gun issue. And im not here to debate that there is money from both sides being poured into that as a solution. We need to look beyond the instrument and look at how we can prevent these things from happening. Starting with the hearts of our kids. And i want to challenge people to pour as much money into programs like sandy hook promise, like kick start for kids, like why try . Like rachels challenge. We have a friend, foster freese put up 2. 5 million from now until the end of july. And every one of you who donate 5 . 10, its going to be doubled to rachels challenge. Laura thats awesome. Go to rachel scott. Org or rachel scott. Com and its going to help us reach a lot more kids. Laura this is a perfect way to end this week, something incredibly positive and incredibly compassionate and real. Person touching person. Thank you. Laura not through a screen. Its people helping people, oneonone. Have you got to reach out to people who are in trouble. Have you done that for the past 19 years. Have you turned tragedy into triumph. We pray for you and for all the victims of gun violence and tragedy acontrols this country. Thank you for what you are doing. We need a spiritual reawakening in this country and you are helping along with foster frees and so many others. You have a donation coming from me my friend. Well be right back. Im very proud of the fact that i served. I was a c130 mechanic in the corps, so im not happy unless my hands are dirty. Between running a business and four kids, were busy. Auto insurance, homeowners insurance, Life Insurance policies. Knowing that usaa will always have my back. Thats just one less thing you have to worry about. I couldnt imagine going anywhere else. Theyre like a friend of the family. We are the cochran family, and well be usaa members for life. Save by bundling usaa home and auto insurance. Get a quote today

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