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Something is bogus in new york and its not the cops. Thats it for us tonight from washington. We are here every night at 8 00. The five is next. Dana hello, everyone. I am dana perino. With juan williams, jesse watters, greg gutfeld, and kimberly h guilfoyle. It is 9 00 in new york city and this is the five. Tonight, new reaction from President Trump with the firestorm surrounded around his son and russia. The president is telling reuters tonight he only learned about the controversial sitdown a couple of days ago and doesnt blame his son for having the meeting. Saying many people would have. Democrats want the treason charge, other people say thats nonsense. Theres been soop much overwrought claim. There are people talking about treason. I cant believe the New York Times had an oped yesterday in which treason was mentioned. People are saying it could be treason, which is facially absurd. It just doesnt rise to that level. Dana Corey Lewandowski thinks the white house needs to get much tougher on cracking down on leaks. Anybody and i mean anybody who is not on the president s agenda working in this administration should be removed immediately, i dont know who the leaker is. If someone was speaking to the media or leaking information which could potentially be detrimental to the president and his administration, i would fir them on the spot. Dana juan, if i would go to your first you would think donald trump, jr. ,s meeting was wrong, possibly unethical but to jump to treason, does that underminena the democrats point . Growth dana perhaps Congress Needs to clarify the law about interactions between campaigns and Foreign Government. Right now, this is just not there. Kimberly people are trying to run with this. I think they are trying to smear donald trump and any kind of political aspirations. Remember at the rnc how well he did . A lot of people talked about his political future. This is trying to do generational and reputational damage for the trump family. They are starting happily and aggressively with donald jr. They tried to take a hit with ivanka. Shes been very passionate onon behalf of coming out with womens issues. Eair pay for women, and health for working women as it relates to health care, syria, the chemical weapons attacks. When i Say Something like this, i just wonder what the motivation is behind us, in terms of someone going after him like this. Perhaps this is really the perfect time to find some clarification, some clarity as it relates to what is appropriate and what isnt. At let me tell you, if my father was running for president of the united states, i would sit down and take a meeting and find out if there was information against anin opponent. Compare this to what Hillary Clinton did to the women that accused bill clinton of Sexual Misconduct or assault against them. Et cetera. What did she do to smear them and investigate them . I find the hypocrisy from the left really appalling. Dana jesse, some on the right have been saying well, why isnt anybody looking into and investigating and charging Hillary Clintons team with the ukrainians . They got information that was against paul manafort. If thats the case isnt that also admitting that this meeting was wrong . Jesse if you want to trying to help his father. If theres something wrong with trying to help your father, then i guess we are all guilty. Dana Cory Lewandowski was getting to that. The leaks are actually coming from the inside. They established that the white house is not under any they dont think they have a legal problem but the p. R. Problem is sort of internal sabotage. Greg yeah, i dont care. I honestly dont care. The more alarmed the press becomes, the more i believe america is becoming exhausted. These stories are becoming so intense and overthetop. They are so interested in reiterating the past. We know as americans that is not about collusion, its about settling the score. Yeah, we might do the same thing because s we would be angry over an election but at a certain point, youve got to let it go. I can redefine collusion as the collusion between the media, academia, and the entertainment industry, who have been trying to brainwash us for decades over the dumbest ideologies. Weve been victims of collusions all of our lives. The narrative here is that the Trump Presidency is in disarray. Thats what we know. Thats what we elected. We k are okay with disarray. We elected somebody because they dont have experience in politics. Therefore, hesct surrounded by people are not adept at controlling the narrative. Maybe thats their fault and maybe donald should have known better but the bottom line is this if you wanted this not to happen, you could have had a rubio, kasich. Dana you would probably have clinton. Kimberly and now we have less isis. Shut up greg you have the good. Its a phenomenon. Trump is a phenomenon. If you are seeing things happen like isis. The downside is, you are going to have this stuff going on forever because they dont know how to deal with it because they are not insiders. You elected ann outsider. This is not a bug in the system. This is the system. We just have to deal with it and over it. The hyperventilation on other networks is insane. Have you see them lately . I worry about their health. Nt jesse yesterday you saw a fever pitch you can see the temperature come down ates least half a degree. Greg they will find something new. This Wall Street Journal piece that came out, everyone is screaming about it. Theres nothing in there. Jo at least, i couldnt find anything. Dana its basically sayingth that the russians were trying to infiltrate into the campaign to see they were trying to listener in. We found out the russians were talking about the Trump Campaign but weve known that. Greg that was the tick tick boom on twitter. Juan i think there are two other stories that are interesting. In fact, there are concerns that the russians were given information a about various districts where there were vulnerabilities for clinton. Weaknesses. Those districts saw an increase of the kind of hacking and emails being sent in, specifically targeting at blacks, women, to decrease hillary votes. That would be cooperating and urging on a foreign power. Its not to say that there is not real problems here. For me, as a democrat, i looked to see what are republicans thinking. When are republicans going to become critical . Today, you had National Review saying basically russian collusion is no longer just a tinfoil conspiracyic theory. No american, republican or democrat, should defend the intent of Donald Trumps meeting. Dana even donald trump, jr. , said he would have done it differently. Hindsight being 20 20. Juan jesse said he was duped. He wasnt duped. Jesse the only reason he did it was because he was boys with the guy that had to hook up. Juan the email said that she was coming with informationk directly from the russian government. Kimberly this party is going down the toilet. They dont get it. Now people within your party, juan, are saying this russian story is a total loser. If you dont have the senate, the house. You certainly dont have the oval. If you keep story. We have bernie sanders, hes not a closer, either. Hillary clinton is going to hide out with scooby snacks in the van. If i was you guys, i would be freaking out. [laughter] juan i dont care what your political affiliation is. This president S White House is not doing his job. Kimberly wh he needs to get some better people into be able to deliver what he promised the working men and women. Juan Kimberly Guilfoyle just said she thinks donald trump should get better people . En kimberly yes. He needs to filled Thee Positios that are there. He knows that. Jesse they are going to run for the hills, at the smallest whiff of controversy. Ive watchedd them all day. Juan they are not turning away from donald trump. Greg i will ask the dumbest question. Kimberly you are good at it. Greg how come a citizen cannot engage in a practice that a reporter can . A reporter can go to a meeting and if you get some information hes a whistleblower. Its snowden, everything. But trump, jr. , a citizen its collusion. He could have been chelsea manning. A reporter is a hero, they make a movie about you. Dana if a Foreign Government comes to you with information to damage another american, i would not do it. Greg i would in a second. I would say youre going to tell me you would say i wonder what it is. Dana will get on the phone and say hello, fbi . Dana i would never do anything to if they had information on you, i am taking that call. [laughter] dana a breakup announcement, next. And not the kind that you might be thinking. 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How far are they willing to go and how much of this country and values are they willing to sell out . But arent you a republican . I am a republican but im not going to be a republican anymore. Ive got to become an independent. Greg okay, weird. We go to the Republican Party for reaction. [laughter] greg so, joe calls it an exit but for republicans, its really an enema. He played both sides as a teenager. Thankfully, not joes. Greg oh, man, is that awkward or what . He seems to be the only one there enjoying the song. Thee rest of them are just waiting for the check to clear. All decisions are driven by a need for attention. Chases the spotlight, and thenh he moves on. After all, he does tend to leave things. He did resign from congress, after all. For something sanctimonious about leaving a group that Isnt Clamoring to keep you. If its because of trump, fine. But joe indulged and flattered him and used him to gain access and ratings. To woo him away from fox friends. Then when he saw donald outgrow him, he imploded. I wish him luck. I welcome his independence, even if its just another stab at relevance, to be noticed at the next hamptons cocktail party. I bet hes going to bring his guitar. Kimberly [laughs] greg did his announcement move you to tears . Dana no. When colbert asked him, are you still a republican . Its such a planted question. They probably were able to get booked on colbert saying they were going to make thiss big news. A it is a little hard to take in, watching the primary pretty closely, we all lived it. They loved donald trump. It was like wait, i dont understand. What about all these conservative principles . Greg he compared him to reagan he said he was the next reagan. Jesse, it takes such talent for leaving your party to seem phony. Jesse when i saw the story, i was like why are we doing this story . I now know why we are doing this story. I dont have anything bad to say and i have no animosity with Joe Scarborough. I want to congratulate him on hisre nuptials. They are riding the wave. Thats fine, let them do their thing. The band is getting back together. I dont know what that was. I dont think anybody cares and the Republican Party that hes leaving. I think msnbc, a Talkingn Point now, you cant say Joe Scarborough and morning joe. You cant even say that. [laughter]ay kimberly thats true. Greg juan, people are being broken emotionally by trump, they go through this thing and then something happens and they are never the same. Is that what happens here . Hes just emotionally broken by this victory . I dont know. Juan i dont know if hes emotionally broken. I think hes behaving in an expedient manner. He is capitalizing where he can for the moment to get attention. I took him seriously. I wanted to know exactly what his argument is. Donald trump says i dont know what the kkk and david duke are. Because he has hispanic heritage he cant be a judge in my case. He goes on about values. Heon says why are republicans continuing to make excuses for donald trump . Greg i dont think he said he didnt know who the kkk was coming he said he wasnt aware if they were supporting him. So what if some freak supports you . Kimberly this is old news. Re juan take it seriously. It is very critical, as we sat in the first segment. What point do republicans say you know what . Donald trump, this has gone too far. Greg youve convinced me. Now that joe has left, he has convinced me. Trump is evil. Kimberly are you joining the Unicorn Party . I love the hairdo. Jesse yeah, can we talk about that . I want hair like that. Kimberly yours is short in comparison. His is like a chia pet. Miraclegro. He wants to sell albums and he said that and thats fine. Hes into this whole thing. I am happy for him. Good for them. Good. He wants to go and play and record and play for his kids but heres my thing. Donald trump, the president , f s very good to them. Very loyal. Offered them to get married in maralago or at the white house. Was on their show, a whole deal. And then they were hitting him in d the face. I dont live like that. Greg in the music performance, he reminded me a lot of the partridge family. You know youre not really musician if you are constantly looking at the people around you while youre playing. It sounded like he ripped off pete townsend. Dana hes done a lot of these songs. Monkey house . Jesse what kind of instruments do you play . Greg i play everything. I was in a band. I cant say the name of the band but it was a death metal band. Kimberly was lou dobbs in it . . Dana they were actually good, right . Greg we were okay. Lets let it go. Dana russia, if you have the tapes greg i was 20 years old. Kimberly how did you look . Greg i looked great. Up next, why is a liberal Magazine Editor who considers herself a feminist criticizing ivanka trump for her clothing . We will tell you, up ahead. 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One Magazine Editor is saying that ivanka trump is not a feminist. Not for something she said but rather what she wore. I dont mean to sound sexist, it can be dangerous commenting on what women wear but she sat in for her father wearing a dress that was so ornamental. Itsdr a pink dress with big bos on the elbows. Theres something incredibly ornamental. Thats not a dress made for work or to go out in the world and make a difference. That is a dress that is designed to show off your girliness. God bless her. Show it off. But dont then tell us that you are crusading for an equal place for women at the table. Because you are not. Kimberly gross. Dana i can barely breathe. This is exactly what the didntt movement you want to be judged by your looks. You wanted to be judged by your thoughts, capabilities, work. When you say i dont mean to sound sexist but. Its like when you say i dont mean to disrespect but. Dont even say that. The democrats could not change maternity leave. Ivanka trump is actually changing it. Shes going up there on the issues that she cares about. Today, she was able to announce that the president is going to put in more money towards humanitarian aid for the famine being exacerbated in africa. She has created this entire worldwide push for women and girls around the world. What else could be feminist . And they make fun of her outfit . This is why young women dont want to call themselves feminist and that this is whyhy that movement is dying and it should. Greg after seeing this, i am no longer a feminist. Are we sure shes not an evil white male . It was so patriarchal. Dana it sounds like it would have been set in the 70sri or mad men. Greg im not surprised shes a predictable ideologue. If somebody gave you two of her beliefs, you could predict the third one. She sat predictable. She has never strayed from this ideological hard left stance. All of us here are unpredictable in the things we believe in. You are a conservative here or a npliberal here. That does not exist in her world. Shes an Ideologue Dogmatist and really predictable. Kimberly jesse . Jesse i was told never to start a sentence when you say this might sound sexist but. Thats like 101. It was a very spiteful comment. I thought women were supposed to boost each other up, not tear ryeach other down. It always seems like the left thinks the worst of the trumps. Trump, jr. , has a bad meeting. Hes a traitor. Ivanka takes her fathers seat its because shes an ornament or a piece of property. Donald trump praised symphonies and that makes him a racist. Everything this family does, everyone on the left thinks he has the worst intentions. Im getting sick of it. Kimberly theres nothing anybody in the family can do to get some honest evaluation or statement about what they do. E shes an entrepreneur, very charitable. Ive known her for over ten years. Its sad because what also she kexpected to even do . Shes trying to serve the country. Shes very passionate about women and children and equale wage and Good Health Care and being murdered and genocide thats happening, shes created ave vey Affordable Clothing line. Nothingh. Is good enough. This woman is setting back other women, by diminishing her accomplishments, by Complaining Aboutwo what shes wearing. Shame on you. What have you done for women, joan walsh . Juan i have a different viewpoint. Dana you are siding with joan walsh . Juan i will say this for joan walsh and people looking at the trump family i dont think anybody is all down on the family. Jesse are you watching the news . Juan i think you guys enjoy the idea if you havent noticed, the women around donald trump, they all are very stylish, extremely beautiful dana everyone just praised ymichelle obamas outfits. Juan they talked about her muscle tone, everything. Thats fair. Kimberly what are you talking about . Thats a compliment. Oh, my gosh. Juan she said she looked ornamental. Kimberly thats not a dress thats made for work. Thats a dress designed to show off your girliness it is sexist. Juan i dont think its sexist about what shes saying and what dana said, look at the womans work. Look at what she has done. E. Kimberly are you better than me because you can wear that outfit and i wear a dress . No. He juan she t saying lets have more money for this or paid leave, thats not making the argument or winning the argument in congress. Thats not changing our national values. Dana shes been very active, shes gone to senator rubio, shes written to the Wall Street Journal because they dont like the idea. Shes taken them on. Shes actively trying to do something. Juan okay. You can praise it but the ideaea that you have her sitting in at formal meetings at the g20 thats kind of unusual that you have your daughter kimberly that showsd that President Trump champions women and believes in his daughter. Its an example for the rest of the people in the country to do that for their daughters. The only thing that would make the left happy is if she was screaming like a lunatic and throwingng things. Dana and dont forget, wearing a hat. Greg you can make those jokes now. I can make fun of how chelsea dresses. Everythings on the table, right . No no, i wouldnt. Because i am a classy guy. Juan you are. You are. Greg am i . Kimberly im done with this. Illegal immigration and the long promised wall, next. Tech when you schedule with safelite autoglass, you get a text when were on our way. You can see exactly when well arrive. Im micah with safelite. Customer thanks for coming, its right over here. Tech giving you a few more minutes for what matters most. Take care. Kids singing safelite® repair, safelite® replace. Could save money on car insurance. Nce you know, the kind of driver who always buckles up. Comes to a complete stop. And looks both ways, no matter what. 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Yesterday, a house panel unveiled legislation for a down payment. Likely to start a Spending Fight that could lead to a shutdown. Steve king backs the measure but thinks it should go even further. I would throw another 5 billion on the pile and half A Billion Dollars right out of Planned Parenthoods budget and the rest of it could come out of food stamps and the entitlements thatom are being spread out for people that havent worked in three generations. We have to put america back to work. This administration will do it. Jesse wow. What do you think about steve kings inflammatory greg this is not a persuasive argument. Building a wall, you have to be practical, not political. This is a guy saying ifot you he the idea of the wall, you are going to hate this idea even more. G you are supposed to broaden the appeal of stuff. This is a salt in the wound kind of thing. You want people on the fence or on the wall to come to the wall. You dont want to say hey, guess what . We will take money from this and this and other causes that you like. Make it the worlds longest strip mall. It could be nail salons. Chinese takeout. Dry cleaners. Always the karate studio. They always have a karate studi in strip malls and no one is ever in them. Jesse just a lot of trophies. Is this Donald Trumps way to negotiate . Steve king saying we will do thisy and this and this . And then when they negotiate back from there, they will get the funding . Dana maybe the white house could put steve king up to that but my Talking Point was not the most persuasive argument for the wall. Greg i saw that. Kimberly it could be top line. Dana consistently, across the board, polling for the wall is 60 against. Polling for Planned Parenthoodg is like almost an 80 popularity rate. Not that i think it should be funded by the federal government but basically, hes bringing up two very difficult things. On the food stamp point, if they can prove they cant get those roles t down they should do that in a demonstrable fashion. And then instead of saying people that havent worked in three decades, we will take their food stamps away jesse i dont think the wall can be chipped away at all. They cant be slowed down or defunded. T if donald trump loses the wall or momentum on the wall, that puts a huge chink in the armor and the base. Kimberly the moneyal would be better spent securing the borders than ending and shortening the lives of thousands of babies. Wouldntt it . Juan are you kidding me . First of all, Planned Parenthood does so much more than abortion but if you want to have the abortion argument, lets have it. Greg they shouldnt be doing abortions then. Juan why cant they i dont want to get into it and its so emotional. When it comes to the idea that you would kick people off of food stamps and you just say oh, its just those undeserving, degenerate people who have been taking advantage . What is going on . Steve king thinking those mexican immigrants have calves the size of cantaloupes, well, stevem king looks like a Big Old Halloween jackolantern. The twothirds of the people getting food stamps in our great country are either children, the elderly, or disabled. Why would you go after this group . I dont get it. One more point, jesse. Guess what states would be hardest hit, jesse . States that voted for donald trump have the highest population of this needy group. Ii dont think its respectful r loving for anybody to go after children, the disabled, and the elderly. Jesse maybe the ablebodied people that are getting food stamps can work for the wall. A funeral for the officer assassinated in new york city last week. Trying to end hatred towards police, up ahead. You totanobodys hurt, new car. 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Real. Unacceptable. Something like this is happening but its part of this Sickening Cultureng where people are not respecting the men and women that faithfully serve in blue. They try to beat them down, they try to make them look like they are the enemies. The police that serve every morning and try and do this job are the ones that are hunted and disrespected. Its really appalling to me that this is going on in this country. Its been going on for a while. We know where it started and what administration, Bill De Blasio should be thrown out. Juan jesse, in fact, there was some young kid playing nwas blank the police. I get people would say look at all the Police Officers cleared in the shooting of people, the Philando Castile case. Th its hard for police any police to get convicted of killing someone unarmed. Jesse yes, you would never want to blast that song at a funeral. Its inexcusable. Kimberly its part of the ferguson effect. Jesse real, average americans are trying to take care of their families, going to work. They have commitments. There is a Silent Majority out there. The Silent Majority that talks to their friends, neighbors, families about Something Like this. And then they talk at the ballot box and i think thats what counts. The Silent Majority make their voices heard. The young people, Black Lives Matter, the Open Borders Activists those people are going to get out there because they dont have a lot to do. Theyey dont have jobs or a lot going on. Thats when you see the hatred and animosity. They dont have the passion to be fair. You wont see a lot of hardworking americans coming out for this because life moves fast, unfortunately. Juan we saw police come from around the world to this funeral. It was on the grand concourse. It was flooded with blue. Dana the hardest job in the world is being a single mom and second hardest job is being a police officer. It does show you why the new York Police Department consistently recruits s and retains americas finest. Juan greg, your pal, big Bill De Blasio spoke at the funeral. Greg there was a demonstration they are, after all. Hundreds of cops turned their backs on them. Thats a demonstration. In terms of why there arent other demonstrators coming out of this like Black Lives Matter, they ignored this injustice because it doesnt fit their narrative. Perhaps if they actually did , listen to this, it would force them to look in the mirror and question their own complicity in this. There is complicity in this. The police have been demonized. The narrative on various networks have demonized the police, making the ferguson effect. Making them on capable to do their jobs. Juan this is a conflict between police and Black Lives Matter but theres no doubt i think everyone at thee table understands that what happened to officer Miosotis Familia it was an abomination and should never happen. 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Is proud of these girls who represent the best of the afghan people. Jesse. Jesse ive made a fashion Statement Last night on the ffive. People went crazy. Thats called a burgundy blazer. We call it that for a reason. Y. Because everybody on the internet set i looked like ron burgundy. A stay classy. And a mustache. I did not do that. Thats not my mustache. Juan there is a new area and photography, look at the winners of this contest. It looks like someone is falling off the edge of a building but a closer look, you will see its a man in the picture laying on the edge of a tennis court. Heres the secondd one. Looks like vibrant pink standing out, a sea of green lilies. Greg its my turn, juan. I have a great article at foxnews. Com. You should read it. Ive got a great new podcast with ariel pink, of brilliant musical artist

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