If you need to blame something, i guess you could blame the brain. I remember bette midler blaming the newton massacre on Ronald Reagan because the mentally ill were released from california hospitals when he was once governor. She ignored the Patient Rights Movement had shielded the unstable, so you couldnt get them help like bette midler. The tolerance rainbow created only one path for the sick. The streets. You now have malfunctions at all junction. Its like an faa approving a fleet of planes with their screw loose. And so when asked how does the society take care of the ill when society itself is sick . When the sick were let out, we were supposed to help them, but we needed help ourselves. A society that abdicates its pont to keep Families Together has a tougher time maintaining a safety net for other people. That was reagans big mistake. He thought we could save the sick, but we couldnt even save ourselves, which is why we look to the government, which doesnt seem to mind at all. K. G. . Yes. What do you make of the Media Coverage so far of this . Do you think they sensationalize violence by covering the villain . I think by virtue of having to cover the story because it is a major news event, its going to seem sensationalized because the events themselves are so heinous and so atrocious. So im torn between not wanting to give them the attention that they so separately seek, like you said, these villains of disaster, of epic proportions, and also the responsibility from a news perspective to actually let the public know whats going on. But i disagree with when the media sensationalized it and uses it for their own lit cal purposes and agenda to frame the argument. Bob, do you think we should ever be showing the faces of the villa villains, just shown once and never again . I mean, look, its a news story, as kimberly said, you have to do that. What i dont buy is that theyre copycat killers here. I think these people are insane and would do it anyway. I dont think the coverage of them leads to more mass murders. I think we do spend an awful lot of time on it. I think we could get away with it after about a day or two and move on. I do think there are copycat murders. People understand they can get fame when they see the fame there he is again. Thank you for showing him. Had they see the amount of times their face is put up there. Then they think, wow, that really works for a loser like me, i can go out and kill people because network keep showing pictures of them. But then theyre dead. Eric, adam lanza was enthralled by the press. The norway shooter guy. So we know it has some kind of linkage. Perhaps, but i think its really important ill take the other side of that. I will kind of agree with bob and maybe to a certain extent kimberly and disagree with you. I think we need to do that and see who these people are. I think we need to see what makes them tick. I think the more we see, the more we can recognize, see something, say something. You see an adam lanza living next door to you, that kid acts a lot like that adam lanza kid, and maybe i will report Something Like this. Sensationalizing it, im not sure that causes more mass murders. I think these people are sick. Theyre nuts. Theyre going to kill whether or not theyre on tv or not. You want to create a lot of stir, a lot of attention, jump off a building or do something stupid, you know, in the middle of a football stadium. I dont think that seeing adam lanza or holmes or alexis or any of these or wapner, i think that creates more i think maybe were seeing and hearing about it a lot more. I disagree. They make movie it. Robert redford made the company you keep about the weather underground. He talked about the terrorists. That makes a terrorist romantic, and that makes me kind of sick. Isnt that taking it a step further, then, because, you know, its to film . Its not just reporting the nauz or telling the story, where the public has a right and a need to know whats going on and potentially maybe it will motivate them to get involved to report the next person that they find. That kind of may have or someone whos got a kid whos troubled next door. If it saves a life, then im all for it. When you take it to the next step like redford, that i think is inappropriate. Dana, isnt the sad reality as much as we complain about this sort of stuff, culture finds the culprit more interesting than the victim because theres always a story about the culprit . We have names, arthur daniel, silvia frasier, kathleen gaard, kenneth proctor, michael arnold, all these poor people that are dead, but just to the producers, theyre not as interesting because they didnt commit the crime. Well, so this only happened on monday. Today is wednesday. And the first day, we didnt even have the names of the victims. The mead ya didnt have the names of the victims until late monday night, early tuesday morning. And the truth is the good guys, the victim, they never get enough attention, ever. Thats reality. Think of the stories weve done about christians being attacked in muslim countries like in nigeria. Nobody ever talks the christian missionary. We only see the burning building, and then we see pictures of terrorists, and then we yell about it, but we dont talk about the actual people killed. Partly i think that is reality. I also think on this one, people have moved on pretty quickly. If you look at the front pages of all the major newspapers, its only wednesday, and hes only on one of the major newspapers we have here. Go ahead. I was justing if to say, we went past this releasing Mental Health people in california. Im going to get to that. Please, go ahead. I was going to point to what Charles Krauthammer said last night. Hes a psychiatrist. He has some fairly substantial experience on this topic. This is him about losing the ability to deal with people who have psychiatric illness. One problem that we have, 50 years ago, if the cops are out on the scene and you told them all that, they would have taken you to the emergency room. And as a psychiatrist, i would have been on duty, and i would have committed him for two weeks of treatment because that person clearly was having a psychotic episode. But today because of this idea of civil liberties, which i respect, we dont do that a anymore. And we have people at large who can be dangerous. So what do you make of that . He agrees that its wrong to incarcerate somebody against their will even if because theyre mentally ill, they refuse it be incarcerated. Well, hes talking about people they bring in now on crimes. What i was referring to are people who are already in mental institutions in california who are just released and went out on the streets. And then they committed a number of crime. You sea them around here. California was the start put it spread across the country. Conservatives didnt want to spend money on these institutions, got them on the street, and its a real problem. Yeah, i do think nobodys innocent in this. I think that there were moouvemt for patient activism. In agreement with people who didnt want to spend money. There was also the assumption that communities would be able to handle them, but that assumption was wrong because our communities have enough issues dealing with themselves, i guess. And families have had a hard time because say you have somebody thats mentally ill in your family. And you lose track of them, right . They go off on their own. You cant compel them. You cant institutionalize them yourself. So it could be that there needs to be some changes on that particular part of the law. I think that the Veterans Administration is going to they have a lot of problem. They have this guy this alexis guy said that he had ptspts ptsd. He went to the Veterans Administration on august 23rd, just a few week ago, asking for help. He cant sleep. Hes got problems. Hes hearing things. They give him medicine, tell him to come back in two week. Im sure that they have thousands of people like this coming through all the time. And how do you make the judgment call of which one are you going to as charles suggested put somebody into an institution for two weeks . I dont know how i dont know how you determine it. Eric, is it just hauman erro that Somebody Just screwed up along the way . Yes. And also its, you know, the pc society and people are worried about offending people with issue. Mental issues, you know, youre going to be put in a hospital against your will. Really there should be some database for that. Im pretty sure there on a statetostate basis, but theres no way to share that data across state lines. I think thats part of the problem because when you talk p the left saying that these people are ill and they are getting guns, they wouldnt if there was some way to share that data. But how does that square with the Fourth Amendment . I do think that there is a civil liberty argument to be made about privacy. Weve spent the summer talking about that. I dont see how you make a determination when it comes to because once its adjudicated, like once a judge says against your will youring if to this institution, at that point, youve set a red flag off saying that youre dangerous. At that point what if they just say youre a rightwing nut so were putting you in an institution . That would like the irs. Right. If you notice that the families of these people who do these things are often theyre shocked. They are stigmatized for the rest of their lives because theyre associated with this person. And i dont think we give enough time recognizing that there are a lot of them who are out there who are also victims in their own way. Well, the mother of the killer came out and was horribly sick. And she did a press conference earlier today. You want to look at the coverage of the press, there were a lot of red faces over at the timing a lot of stuff wrong. Particularly about the name of the killer and also the weapon being used. The daily news ran this cover and also kept a column by make lupica up for a long time after they found out that it wasnt the same gun, the ar15 rifle. It wasnt that gun. They still kept up lupica whos not a very bright fellow, poor mans bob costas. Chuck todd tweeted the wrong name of the shooter. That stayed on twitter for a while. Then nbc pulled it back. Piers morgan ifs and spends a whole lot of time on air saying theres that darn ar15. The ar15 probably saved lives. The ar15 was used by the Campus Police that were on scene and maybe stopped some of the carnage towards the end of it. There hate to be first over precedes their interest in being right, and thats a problem. Yeah, youd rather be second or third and right than first and wrong. Up neck, the president s own former defense secretaries are slamming his serious strategy, but is obama tone deaf to his critics even from his own team . Well play the tape ahead on the five. Dont go away. Nascar is about excitement. But tracking all the action and hearing everything from our marketing partners, the media and millions of fans on social media can be a challenge. Thats why we partnered with hp to build the new nascar fan and media engagement center. Hps Technology Helps us turn millions of tweets, posts and stories into realtime Business Insights that help nascar win with our fans. 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Two full servings of vegetables for only 50 delicious calories. Baby even the losers get lucky sometimes welcome back, everybody. The American People didnt like it. Congress didnt like it. Hell, members of his own party didnt even like it. The it is president obamas bmaway strategy for syria, but the commander in chief can be tone deaf at tamimes. I think that folks here in washington like to grade on style. And so had we rolled out something that was very smooth and disciplined and linear, they would have graded it well, even if it was a disastrous policy. Im less concerned about style points. Im much more concerned about getting the policy right. Style points are you definitely have that, but listen to his own defense secretary, a democrat and a republican who expressed doubts about the substance the substance of the syria strategy. Frankly, anything embraced by Vladimir Putin and bashar assad fills me with skepticism. Had twhen the president of t United States draws a red line, the credibility of this country is dependent on him backing up his words. Sfwla we well, robert, the president tone deaf . I mean, gates and panetta both suggested drawing that red line was a mistake. Well, it probably was a mistake. I think obama essentially backed away from that for good reason. By the way, who did you say was crazy outside . You were pointing to somebody. No, bob, somebody for real. Oh, okay. Out there . Yeah. Really . Im not sure hes tone deaf. Its a complicated issue. Youre relying on the russians to help. Without the russians, you probably wouldnt get it done. Without the military or naval power obama put out there, it wouldnt have happened. I think he deserves a big victory on this. A victory. Wow whoa, bob. Bobs got no problem saying just about anything. Anything that you proposed. Right. Well, the weapon, thats what i want to see happen. Hi, take a sip from your proud to be a liberal mug. Here. This is the exact sense of arrogance and infallibility that our enemies are taking advantage of. You cant criticize obama, but this also partly to blame because of the Mainstream Media with just like completely giving him this just positive affirmation, glowing all the time so hes used to it. So hes incredibly uncomfortable with criticism. He actually doesnt want to hear it. And because of this, this defiance and i know better than everybody else, the enemies are stepping in and using that to their tstrategic advantage. Hows this . Look what they just did. Guess whos the new number one, the sheriff is, its putin. Vlad. Vladakat. You guys want to comment on this one or the obamacare tone deaf . Zloo we well, the tone deaf thing, think about what he did this week. It was the fiveyear anniversary of the lehman meltdown. This was a fabricated anniversary generated and collaborated with the media to allow obama to spout nonsense about his achievements. And he couldnt let it go. He could not let it go after a shooting. He had to do this. To me, it was like it told me that the story of the presidency is there is no story. Its gone. It was that was very small. Can i just mention on gates and panetta, i thought in some way their criticism was fairly mild but its magnified because they worked for previous president s. Theyve both been at the cia. If there was anybody that you would want to listen to, a wise man in foreign policy, panetta and gates are two good choices to listen to. Can i roll that sound bite of president obama . A little tone deaf on obamacare. Listen to this one. 52 believe the law will raise their health care costs. Is everybody wrong . Yes. They are. The problem we have is is that over the last four years, billions of dollars have been spent misinforming people about what this law is about. All the Horror Stories that were talked about have not come true. Its going to be a good deal. And we expect that once its fully implemented, a year from now, two years from now, five year from now, people will look back, and theyll be asking, what was the argument about . K. Gncg, ill just paraphras. What i just said . No, what he just said. Everyone was else wrong and im right. More of the same. At least hes horribly consistent but also very boring. He comes up with this, like, blunted affect. Its so boring. What is he even saying . He doesnt move me, you know . Hes not saying anything that makes sense or thats memorable. Im bummed. I want our guy to do well. I like being in the winners circle. I liked having the president that stands up and people want to pay attention. And right now its like he doesnt care. If hes getting interrupted, he doesnt hear whats coming in his ear, so whats coming out of his mut is making it worse. Its not healthy. What he said, there was 2 billion to make obamacare into a horrible thing, and hes right. And everybody keeps talking about all these Horror Stories, but ive not heard one yet, not one, that backs up what people said. Meanwhile, he has used hollywood as his propaganda arm to prop up every single one of his political pipe dreams. Let me just give you one horror story. They sold the bill to the American People saying this was didding to cost 890 billion. The most recent cbo number is 1. 8 trillion. 1. 8 trillion. Its already doubled in price, and its not even implemented fully yet. Uhoh. Theres a horror story. What about president obama hes never wrong. Hes never wrong with anything. Isnt it time to say, okay, we miscalculated . I think in politics, its always good to eat a little humble pie even if its hard to swallow. The thing is, hes also the most overexposed president. But ive been saying this for five years. Is and so they dont really care. Think of how many interviews hes done recently. On the fifth anniversary of lehman, i think that was a telling one where he they had the partisan speech. Thats why even you had liberals saying, geez, mr. President. Can you give it a rest . Just for a day . They seemed not to take a very long view. And theyre about to have i guess were going to talk about it next a big showdown with congress once again. But watch the media try to help him. And republicans try to help him, too. He has sbs, which is spoiled brat syndrome. The media has let him ride through the administration with training wheels. When hes in trouble, he falls over. And blames you for letting go. Yes, exactly. Yeah. The epic scandal that is benghazi, what is it thats gone wrong . Lets start with benghazi. Lets start with the irs, the boj. Directly after the five, tune into a special twohour edition of special report for an exclusive fox news interview with syrian president Bashar Al Assad. 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For more, we go to our panel. Bad idea, mr. Schultz. Whats wrong with him . Hes an activist ceo. He likes to get involved in these social issues. You go to starbucks for their coffee, not the ceos opinion on guns. Look, we have a right every state has a con selled carry license with the exception of the district. Everyone state has one. And we are allowed to bring our guns into starbucks if we want to. How is he legislating this . Hes not. He stopped short of that. He just said we are requesting you dont do that. I think its a mistake. Colorado found out the hard way that we are very much a progun country. That was a shot across the bow. A lot of people dont go for the coffee. They go for the bathrooms. Starbucks has become a replacement for the public library. And mcdonalds. People use the place the lines are always longer for the bathroom than it is for getting coffee. I know for a fact because i have a small bladder. By the way, why didnt he go a little further and make it a gunfree zone . You should put up sign. If you really believe that, it could be like saying hi, please rob me. What is possibly wrong with a guy who owns a company saying that we dont want guns in here . Who the world wants gun in their establishment . What is possibly wrong with saying how silly that is . Is it wrong to have gun in a bar on friday night . Without gun in society, there would be no commerce. Hes lucky he has Police Officers all around him to protect him. Do you think they should have gun in bars on saturday night . The less guns there are, the less safe you are. When you walkpy a bodegas and they say this place is armed, i go in there. Oh, good. Youre just a rough rider, arent you . No. You do not say that. Im with you. If you go into a place and a person is armed, i go in there. Guess why in theres actually been proof, evidence, that these mass shooters will not go to a place where they know that people are armed. Thats why its become unsafe on our bases. Yeah, they cant carry the weapons there. Now look what happened in fort hood. Look at the last mass murderers. And he went and shot one and saw they had guns so he picked the one in aurora. Naval and fort hood. The aurora guy actively looked for a gunfree zone. Right. Dana ferrigno. What if you were a kid in school . I dont know. Maybe. Dana. That is a very, very good question. Youring if e going to keep tonight thinking about that. Were talking about baristas. Starbucks. This guy has been an activist ceo for quite a long time. Hes built a gigantic international business. So this is what i would like. Id like more activist ceos that are willing to speak their minds and not have to whisper behind closed door how horrified they are about federal policy and the direction of the economy and how worried they are and then hope that other people will carry their water. I think twb good if there were other ceos who were willing to actually say what they feel like this Howard Schultz guy. I think youre exactly right. The fact that he said obamacare was something that was good, not one of you are against obamacare with the exception to your money numbers there that theres any particular person whos suffering because of obamacare. 258 employers have slashed worker hours do you to obamacare, which the government loves because less many have not. 258 is a lot of employers. And how many Insurance Company have dropped out of it . By the way, im saying the government loves this because the more people fend on the government, its the only game in town. Its like going to pennsylvania. You have to buy your booze at the abc stores because nobody sells booze anywhere else. You go into an abc store, its really depressing. They changed that in virginia. Good for virginia. I want to get to something. A little bit of boehner and obama. Obamacare. Were going to continue to do everything we can to repeal the president s failed health care law. This week the house will pass a cr that will lock sequester savings in and defunds obamacare. You have never seen, in the history of the United States, the debt ceiling or the threat used to extort a president ling or a governing party and trying to force issues that have nothing to do with the budget and have nothing to do with the debt. I do think it has to do with the budget and the debt. That was one of the oipoints it defund obamacare. Theyre going to get a vote in the house now. That wasnt going to happen just a few weeks ago. They push and pushed to the point that actually president obama could be in a position where he would accept a one had of year delay. I think that would be smart politics for both sides, provide neutral ground and hopefully theyll get it done before the 30th because i think playing chicken with all of this is chicken. The chicken, and its chicken nice. For boehner to say a failed health care policy, he doesnt know what hes talking about. It hasnt failed yet. Stloo how has it succeeded . Because it hasnt failed yet. This is the law of the land. Its not going to be repealed. Why not put your energy into changes you think are necessary instead of saying not fund it. Theyve tried it. Theyve passed bill after bill that the senate wont entertain. Were talking about having sit down and have a comprehensive discussion about cross state lines to sell insurance, about the idea that somehow you can lower the costs of tort reforms. Stwl those were all the things that theyve asked for. President obama is the one who shut down the government to prevent it. By the way, ill tell you why its a failure. It is incred reply unpopular among americans. Not unpopular among the media, and thats the issue. You chose not to read it. Exactly. The disadvantage of being a conservative. You can never actually offer an alternative program because you believe in the market over the government. And then you leftists say, oh, the market isnt a solution. You naed to have a program. But no program works. If you look at the three areas where there are government programs, whether its health care, retirement or education, they are oozing sores in america. Ew. They dont work. And so is capitalism. Capitalism the Lehman Brothers thing should have been brought up because not one of those punks went to jail. They should have. And they did more damage to this country in one week than anybody in obamacare has done in the entire history of this country. Every area affected by government suffers. 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Lawmakers pressed him for answers that cost four americans their lives. It would seem it me, in the normal world, which would be outside of government, if somebody reviewed a business or an entity is and found that there were deficiencies and lack of laeeadership and lack of accountability, somebody would face the consequences. They would see the music. But not so with the government, especially the state department. Would you like the task of going to mary stevens s and explaining to her that four people getting reassign is paying a price . Sir, they were in the reassigned. They were relieved of their seniorlevel positions. That is a serious advertidiscip action. Are you buying that . Hes saying basically hes not saying they got demote. Hes saying they got a new job within the state department. They need to save face or something . You know what this is like . Its like when youre about to have company over. And you start hiding stuff all over. You put stuff under the bed. Put stuff in the closet. An election was coming up. And they put benghazi in the closet. They hid that. And bob admits as much, they were having company over. This isnt just about four dead. Its about one election. The white house and the media orchestrated separately in a sense maybe a lackadaisical coverup, but it was a coverup, nonetheless. Interest in this has remained high, eric. And if you look at lets look at ratings, okay . When we talk about this, people want to listen to it. You can pretty much only find benghazi coverage on Fox News Channel now. What do you think the about this story that keeps america so interested . Because we lost four americans. President obama wanted to bomb syria, and we had lost no americans in syria. Were at risk of losing americans in syria. The conservatives or the people who care about thing like that want some answers. He we havent had. I find it interesting that that gentleman, kennedy, was up there. Honestly, where is hillary . Now, that would be good tv, great to watch. And she could say at this point what does it matter anymore . Id like to hear panetta. Theres one guy who i really want to know what he knows, and he went away very fast after benghazi, and its general hamm. Where is general i would love to hear what he knows because he may hes on the lam. Hes laying low. He has the answer that i really need to know. Who said stand down . Thats the only thing. You explain to me what issa has had 20plus hearings on benghazi and nobodys asked this question . That means hes a lousy chairman with a lousy staff. I think the reason is because it doesnt exist. What doesnt exist . If there were mistakes and yes, they kept it off the front pages as much as they could before the election. I agree. I think there was an epic scandal here . Epic this. Bob, you just said they kept it off the front pages. Thats epic. You are prosprosyria. Youre like bomb the hell out of syria. Its women and children, thats why. No, no, hes not. No, hes not. Its because he supports obama. So if the president says its go time hes, like, i feel you. No, no, its blown out of proportion. I agree. One of the questions is whether there would be a select committee. Thats where the house and senate get together, p senator ted cruz brought this up on the floor of the senate today. We need the president to make good on his promise of september 12th, 2012, quote, to bring justice to the killers who attacked our people. That still has yet to happen. Over the past year, it has become evident that we naed a joint select committee to get these things because we have an administration that is actively trying to avoid learning more about benghazi. So a fairly reasonable argument, but that was nixed by senator barbara boxer. Let me get to the other story because the irs scandal continues. And they billed this case. It turns out that now newly uncovered irs documents show what weve been assuming all along is that they did flag a Political Group for any antiobama rhetoric. What do you think . This corruption is massive, for it provides evidence of an arm of government used as a political enforcer and allows an avenue for americans to get real change, real reform. I have to hand it to the president. He has taken a ream of scandals can and turned it into a benefit. We cant keep our eye on the ball. There are more balls there than a mcdonalds play pen. I love those. Or chuck e. Cheese. No, mcdonalds has playpens. Its surprising you have irs Officials Say they knew the white house didnt like to keep the people and say we should investigate them . Is that possible . And thats possible . Its possible but its not absolutely wrong. When i think of certain people sometimes even at this table follow the line of fox on certain things, yeah. What . Okay. It might be true, and it could wrong, and then it might be somebody behind me theyre all looking at. Coming up, big decision by the Federal Reserve sends shock waves through the market. Erics going to explain why because i dont understand it ahead on the five. [ male announcer ] running out of steam . Now you can give yourself a kick in the rear v8 vfusion plus energy. Natural energy from green tea plus fruits and veggies. Need a little kick . Ooh couldve had a v8. In the juice aisle. Welcome back. We just learned a serious situation, and that is no. You know what, bob . I swear to god. Honest to god, youre the worst person. Dana got stop. Youre really in the nice. Welcome back. Sorry, all you guys out there, but i believe we need more women in office. Rice University Says female politicians are much less likely than their male counterparts to engage in corruption and more likely to disapprove of it when they see it. Isnt that true . Dana, with the sneakers. Yes. I love may new sneakers. Heres what i was thinking about had it comes to this and women in office. Think back to sarah palin and one of the reason that she won governorship in alaska was because she took on the corruption that was happening in the Energy Industry up there propelled her to that success. I also think that one of the reasons you dont see this as much corruption with women and men is that traditionally, women are less risk averse, are more risk averse than men on lots of different things. Men are willing it let it ride and try greg is shake his head no but im pretty sure this is true. This is a theory that i have. Women are less corrupt. This study is b. S. Linking gender to corruption is wrong. They looked at governments all around the world, including autocracies which are despots. Governments ruledpy one man. So its despots that are more corrupt than democracies. However, the researchers chose to look at genders instead of systems of government. It was never about gender put systems of government. Its despots that are more corrupt, not democracies. Bogus study. When are you getting one . I got all the way to the table and they called it off. Because they thought he was going to die on the table. I mean, come on. It dont hurt that much. Come on. First of all its true. I just looked at the fact. My experience, women in politics, every member of the United States congress would be a woman. Why . They do a better job, more diligent and theyre less likely to rip people off. Bob wants more pelosi. Theres nancy. Whether theyre male, female, white, black, gay, straight. What does that say about ted cruz . What about him . Harvard graduate and elected. Which he knows nothing about but he talks about it all the time. Bob, wow. Whats in your cup today . Nothings in my cup. Some crazy koolaid . Greg, where did you get this despot thing . I actually read the research. They looked at autocracies which are governments ruled by one man. It was never about gender. It was about systems of government. Researchers to this all the time so they get more grants. And we fell for it. We look at scandals in the u. S. Congress. They only involve kennedys. Because theres not many women in congress. Well, theres 20 . Its not about america. Its about other countries. He wants more barbara boxers. Im not getting along with you today. The rains down in africa ok, i am coming. [ susan ] i hate that the reason were always stopping is because i have to go to the bathroom. And when were sitting in traffic, i worry ill have an accident. Be right back. So today, im finally going to talk to my doctor about Overactive Bladder symptoms. [ female announcer ] know that gotta go feeling . Ask your doctor about prescription toviaz. One toviaz pill a day significantly reduces sudden urges and accidents for 24 hours. If you have certain stomach problems or glaucoma, or cannot empty your bladder, you should not take toviaz. 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He thought he brought out his ipad, but turns out he brought out a ream of copy paper. Plans for privately run drunk tank to tackle alcohol disorder have been back by lis chiefs. Under the proposal, drunk troublemakers would be taken to firms is and have to pay for it once theyve sobered up. The police chief says problem drinking is on the increase and action is needed to deal with it. But the Police Federation which represents the offices says the plan is neither a viable nor a longterm fix. This report from graham thatchel. Greatest thing iver seen. Beautiful. Just beautiful. Dana . Happy birthday to frank whose birthday was on monday and i didnt have a chance on monday. Happy birthday to you in michigan. I also want to ask everybody who is watching the five to say a prayer tonight for paul baer, 6 years old, bretts son, and hesing it in for openheart surgery tomorrow morning. This will be his third openheart surgery. Seven angioplasties and a stomach surgery that was unrelated. This is such a loving family and paul since ive known since he was a tiny little baby. Probably harder on the parents than it is on him, but everybody be wishing them good luck tomorrow. Absolutely. Yeah. Amen. Praying for him. Eric . Ill light a candle for paul tomorrow at st. Patricks. Today at 2 00 fed chairman bernanke made an announcement. A lot of people were expecting them to scale back to 85 billion per month theyre priming the system with. Pull up the chart. Says you know what . Were going to continue to prime the system. Theres the 2 00 number. Nears a huge 200point rally in the dow. But the point is, folks, what that mean s is 85 billion is going to continue to make the banks more whole. Right into the banking system. Any question, your Checking Account gets less than half a percent interest. If you go to borrow money from the bank, theyre making more than 4 . Theyre making that spread. Baloney. I want to show you a chart here that was courtesy of the huffington post. These are the number of Mass Shootings that have happened in this country since newtown. And it only goes to show you that these rampant use of Guns Everywhere in the country, this many Mass Shootings, and the more than there have been in a long time. Thats since newtown. Thats just since newtown. What were the casualties involved . Excuse me, did i interrupt your what you did is a little cheap thing. We did a gun segment, but you waited till the end to do it. This is my one more thing. I wish youd leave me alone. Now you want to be left alone, bob. Youre lucky were out of time. Ill be back with you friday. Youll be a little sore. Youre the worst person on the planet today. Okay. Mark wahlberg, never too late to go back and get your high school diploma. He went back to prove a point to his children. See, this is professionalism, ladies and gentlemen, because besides bobs buffoonery and behavior and poor taste, congratulations, mark wahlberg, on getting your diploma. Good luck tomorrow. Theres 40 second left. Bob, its not your special report is up next. Secondguessing from the president s first two defense secretaries over his actions and inaction on syria. And an exclusive interview with syrian president Bashar Al Assad. The first since the russia syria deal. This is special report. Good evening, im brett bai baier. Welcome. Well bring you an exclusive interview with Bashar Al Assad shortly. First, you can add two more voices to the chorus of critics of president obamas approach it the syrian crisis. National security