0 entire national security apparatus is trying to help them last week, they can't -- they can't stop just for the sake of take little swipes. what they're referring to is at one time in the rose garden president bush was asked a question by a reporter, he used to take questions from reporters, and in the white house, and somebody asked him about well why haven't you done this, why haven't you done that? and he said, because i'm the decider. and you know, that's -- so that's what the swipe is. they don't like decisiveness because we actually are -- they want us to look smaller than we are. >> oh, stop. >> yes they do. yes -- >> if you're taking a swipe -- >> let me just say you, my friend, are taking now a swipe at obama. but i want to take a moment of praise for president bush. >> i have been backing up obama for the last two weeks. >> wait, wait, let me just say. i think that president obama and his team have -- i'm sorry, president bush and his team have been very supportive of what is the right action here, which is defending the united states in terms of saying no to the use of chemical weapons and signaling no to iran, north korea, and to the soviet union and freed hundreds of millions from behind the iron curtain so putin is right to be concerned about american exceptionalism. >> the fact is there's a pernicious ideology that comes from the teacher's lounge that says goliath must be defeated by david. the united states is goliath. we must be defeated or become david without the sling shot. what i believe is right now president obama is building a case for republican presidency that the republicans never could have done on their own. it's as if calf rove is wearing an obama mask and doing it himself. the shrinking stature is making way for the need for a scary adult. the reagan that came after carter. right? >> yes. >> i don't know. i don't know. >> look, look, for decades, the grown-ups were running the gop. we're running washington, but, and the people like me, the far righties were called fringe. i guess we're still considered fringe. but the grown-ups have grown old. they're clinging to the notion that you can just kind of carpet bomb people in believing your way of -- the way the world should be. what we really need to do is recognize globalization is happening. economic globalization is happening. ask china ask brazil. ask singapore while we're looking at who we're going to bomb next they're figuring out who they're going to sell stuff to next and they're starting to eat our lunch and we need to refocus our efforts on the economy. when we do that, when we stop worrying about whether or not we should be going into syria, which we shouldn't, create some jobs instead, that's what we really need. >> you just want to give hugs and jobs. >> well, you know what? >> jobs are going to cure -- >> you look at ted cruz and go look here's a smart guy, harvard educated young, conservative, far right guy, who probably doesn't want to go to war either, that's the new blood in the gop. i love that. i embrace that. >> wait, wait, wait. you can embrace rand paul or saying i have a libertarian posse i think the united states shouldn't be all over the world. i think there are lots of young people by the way, the obama base, who are attracted to that kind of message coming from a republican. but when you hear ted cruz going after the president in this way, i just think you know, if it's the far right now has become so isolationist because they hurt obama so much they're going to hurt america's vital interests? >> it's not a personal hate. >> i think it's- >> how is it fair for ted cruz to be saying these things? >> i think the far right hates the government, they hate taxing and spending and redistributing wealth. they like to see smaller government, smaller base, get out of the bedroom, get out of our businesses. let us thrive and prosper the way we have for 230 years. >> that's fine. but you can't ignore an international crisis. >> i think the, you know, i think there's a middle ground here between you two, the right has to be able to exert might. or the wrong will sing the song. made that up. the point is, america is a good force in the world and when that force goes away, there are people that will fill that void and they're not going to be as good as we are. as afters i would like to be on libertarian island and i often am, the only way you can be on libertarian island and have these freedoms is be able to kill for it. >> right. you have to stand up at some point, don't you eric? >> greg is taking the establishment out for a spin. when you go back out to libertarian island. come on back on board. no, i don't -- i think the world is, look, trying to -- >> this is schoolyard bullying by eric bolling. >> look at how big china is getting, brazil are getting. you don't hear about their armies growing and lining up their tanks and looking to attack anyone. they're doing it -- >> in china. >> yes. >> they're doing it economically. >> china certainly is building up its military. >> it ends but -- >> we have a military -- >> i think we should build up our military even more. i want more military. i also think -- >> do you think it works? >> i think that reality is that the world will come to us. even if we don't want to be out there. and so, if you look at the front page of "the washington post" today, india, pakistan renew border might. many fear u.s. pullout from afghanistan will encourage militants. maybe we're comfortable with all of this. and the domino theory around the world, maybe we're going to be okay with that. but if we're going to do that we had better figure out a way to become energy independent and quickly. >> real quick i want to bring this up, u.s. enemies are they emboldened by all of this? what we're talking about here today when you look at who's going on across the world, al qaeda chief calls for new attacks on the u.s. u.s. consulate in afghanistan attacked. north korea restarts their nuclear reactor. iran, threatens retaliation if the u.s. strikes syria, and assad demands u.s. stop arming rebels. or he won't turn over the chemical weapons. doesn't sound like anybody's very afraid. >> okay. what -- when you put those things all together you sense that america is missing a sense of strength and will that somehow we've fallen into a slumber in the government crib because we're getting the baby is being fed and the baby doesn't care. that's what i worry about is that the american public has become satisfied with the free stuff that they get, not to care about what's happening overseas, and pretty soon we're going to be devoured by these young aggressive countries and the only things that are going to be left are these frigid eyeballs on our skeleton who saw it coming but didn't care. >> can i push back? who's going to devour it? terrorism? >> we always need to be diligent about that. if iran gets a nuclear reactor -- nuclear arms, that's a problem. russia, arming syria, and-mile-per-houring -- >> i'm not sure iran likes us any more or less than kim jong-un. >> that's true. >> he looks rodman. >> there's biological weapons out there, there's chemical weapons out there. >> are we or are we not -- >> every president, every president has these crises. you go back, reaganasas a strong leader. he was a strong leader. but guess what happened to the marine barracks in beirut? >> but he was. >> these things happened. >> and feared. a healthy amount of fear is a good thing. >> you could fear, he had the peacekeeper, you can talk in those terms but you act as if just because obama is in office these things are happening, america is weaker. america is as strong as ever. >> juan the point is, this is what president obama wanted. he had a fundamental disdain for exceptionalism and he felt it was time for america to pull back not because he was worried he you know thought we were being too angry. he just doesn't like a large, successful country. he wants a europe yarn-style democracy. am i right? >> no. >> no? >> juan, eric? >> look, i think i could just leave it there. we absolutely have to have a strong military. but not one that -- >> amen. >> is aggressive in seeking conflicts that fwrangly aren't ours. >> well, there's -- again, the reality is our commitment to israel. and do we keep it or not? >> mm-hmm. >> and i say we keep it. i would think a lot of people say we keep it. okay then you have to get to the practical reality of how do you do that going forward? >> strengthening israel. >> no. we have to protect israel. >> what are you talking about? >> i said strengthening israel. >> you can be supportive of israel. you can supply technology, arms to israel without attacking iran or syria. >> let me for a second, if somebody attacked israel you think we're just going to sit here? >> no. and that's the point. syria hasn't attacked any of our allies or american interests. >> juan just got hands-on. >> okay. directly ahead, who's doing better in obama's economy? rich people or poor people? 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