0 cherish the memory of someone lost in the conflict by doing this. i cannot imagine what idiot producer cbs did this. bob was right to stand up and do this. >> eric: can't two times i agree with mccain and karl rove in the one show. >> dana: my worlds are colliding. >> andrea: all of us agree with bob. >> dana: the guy says it's a double u-turn. it's a double mistake. having contestant goes there in the first place. is ignorant or willful. now you add a triple mistake, because instead of saying we meant no offense, and we will be more sensitive in the future. we would never talk about it again. now prime time shows are covering it. i manual iraqi and war vets who will stand with the vietnam veterans saying we'll stand with them. this could happen to us in the future. we want people to know the sacrifice was and fought for freedoms and what the country asked them to do. >> greg: the producers think ho chi minh is sushi and p.o.w. is a new song by one direction. we have a location that americans died. the first to recognize and refuse participation punches the producer in the face. >> dana: wouldn't it be great if one of the contestants came forward and said you know what? i didn't know, or i'm ashamed or i apologize. >> andrea: the producers, at first we talk this up to -- chalk this up to a producer who doesn't know better and executive who does know bette better. but this does appear that they know better. that is upsetting. people aren't taught the le sop of history. that is why it is about fox. this is not about fox news or the viewers. this is about the veterans who made the sacrifices and the atrocities and the evil. you know what? i'm not sure a lot of people understand it. now they do. they have no excuse. executives can't say we didn't know. we weren't sure. they know they choose to not say anything. that's upsetting. >> eric: i don't think it's about fox. brukeheimer has been around and he knows what is going on. i don't think he is partisan. he is a guy who blew it. this is more about character. character meaning brukeheemer or munoz, one of you should stand up and say we blew it. we're sorry. but do they have the character to do it? >> bob: i got thousands of tweets. dana got me turned on this. 99% of them is favorable which is opposite of what it normally is. >> greg: don't get used to it. >> bob: you made a good point, you think it is possible they made a decision their audience is younger. not vietnam connected. this was fine to go ahead with it? >> greg: if anyone noticed it, the assumption is the audience is too passive. distracted. this operates under this is the big deal. this is how they look at it. there is no many outlets of the opinion. they're antimilitary and anti-americanism. we have come to accept. they could have gone to vietnam. they could have scripted the show differently. they could have said we know what happened here. we are not for this. we are for freedom. you know, they could have made it -- please forgive me, it's a banned phrase, teachable moment. >> greg: is it a banned phrase. >> bob: sorry. >> andrea: don't you think that old -- even if older veterans or older viewers are hearing about this story, they are talking about it to with the younger generation. it's permeating and getting larger and i hope they ride it out over the weekend and it will go away. >> dana: we could find up vets to go up against the contestant of "the amazing race" to see who would win. >> bob: i am so absorbed in this. i get madder believe it or not, every minute. if i said this before, excuse me. but vietnam defineed by generation. it was the defining moment. not just the 150,000 vietnam veterans but the generation of the baby movers. painful experience for everybody. you could have said vietnam almost ripped america apart. maybe this is not the place to go a bring memories of that back up. so, i'm sorry. go ahead. >> greg: i haven't heard a single person, not even cbs on twit they're says, it's not that big of a deal. this is weird. nobody is defending it. >> andrea: silence has never been louder, i think. by not saying anything. they are screaming they endorse this, or they know they screw up. which is it? >> bob: how did they get away with it? >> eric: did they? we contacted them three times. up with time they said no comment. is that not a comment in and of itself. >> bob: yeah. isn't no comment indietable statement? >> dana: yeah. it's showing the hand. if it's national security related. you can say no comment. we'll get back to you later. but this is basically shut up, bob. >> bob: i have heard that before. we'd like to know your thoughts on the issue with cbs. should cbs apologize to vietnam vets? go to facebook.com/thefivefnc and vote in our poll. we'll let you have a chance to send it to cbs a message what about you think. so far, 3,000 of you have taken the poll. overwhelmingly something like 3,000 said apologize. and 50 said don't. coming up, nbc makes tens of millions of dollars from "tonight show" franchise. what new -- what would new york need -- why would -- sorry. i'm not used to opening this. why would new york need to subsidize a move to the big apple? eric will talk about that next. ♪ ♪ ♪ [ kate ] many women may not be absorbing the calcium they take