0 >> there is nothing sacred in washington. is there anywhere where the democrats haven't been exceedingly political in a speech? including when you invite somebody to sit in the front row of the speech and disparage and ridicule him in front of the world. >> if he made the point about bush in iraq -- i haven't been there. vinever seen or heard political comments like that. i didn't agree with any of it. that's not a surprise. this is something my friend cal thomas who, cannot be more conservative, a evangelical christian. he agreed with me -- he agreed that the poigns were right, but this is exactly the wrong place to do it. >> i called cal thomas after he you and he said, i told bob that to make him happy. you know who agreed with carson, paul crugman, speaking in a synagogue. they asked him about the death crisis, he said debt panels and sales taxes. he said what carson said the. >> right. let's listen to another piece of sound from dr. carson and this is about taxes. >> you make $10 billion, you put in $1 billion. you make $10, you put in $1. >> some people say, well that's not fair because it doesn't hurt the guy who made $10 billion as much as the guy made -- 10. where does it say have you to hurt the guy? he put $1 billion in the pot. >> he's a free market guy. >> how do we solve the problem? clearly we have a spending problem. one of the ways to solve the whole thing is go to the fair tax. it's time to start really looking at a national sales tax on everything that is sold and eliminate the income tax. get rid of t. the fair tax proposal, 23% of every sale. what do we do? get rid of the irs and income taxes. go to a use tax. you want this? you pay the tax on it. >> that makes a lot more sense -- >> very similar. >> similar concept. >> can i make one point about obamacare -- you start as soon as tai they are born, and start saving. does he recognize there are millions of people who can't begin to save anything? >> but what he is saying is a lot of states have put forward tax credit programs. if you want to save for a college education, you can set up a fund. there are mill knowios who couldn't save. >> but they have cell phones and flat-screen tvs in their house. so they can save. if you can buy a phone, you can get health care. by the way, the doctor -- all the doctor was doing was making a point that all doctors are making that no one understands. they're small businessmen. they are small businessmen -- [overlapping dialogue] >> i would have loved to have that opportunity. if anybody has that opportunity, they should. >> he was courageous enough to go there. >> you call that courage? >> president obama looked a little perturbed for once? rather than a tongue bag from the media -- the grin on his face during every "60 minutes" thing was insane. so now it's nice to see him sweat. >> you know the last time he made that face -- >> mitt romney with the debate. >> there is a debate where he didn't know how to handle the heat. >> we should have had -- [overlapping dialogue] >> that was a funeral. >> okay. >> disgraceful. >> bob didn't like it. i think we got that loud and clear. but coming up, remember the sassy teenaged jail bird who flipped the bird to a judge during her hearing. >> are you serious? >> i am serious, adios. [bleep] >> come back again. >> that's a no-no that. young lady has just apologized to his honor and our cameras were rolling, that's ahead on "the five."