it looked like maybe -- well, you be the judge. >> jay tapper? >> mr. president, a couple of questions. with the economy at this point. [ laughter ] what can they expect out of that? >> thank you for your question. >> dana: obviously, that is a joke. but timing is everything. and coincidently the reporter in the big was abc news correspondent jake tapper who told laura ingraham that the press may have given obama a pass in 2008. >> i said before i thought the media helped tip the scales, i didn't think the coverage was especially fair to either hillary clinton or john mccain. sometimes the storied collection and magazine covers, photo, campaign coverage wasn't the fairest. >> dana: that reminds me about "casablanca" and being shocked there is gambling in a casino. when you have a guy in press -- why are you laughing at me? >> greg: i don't know. >> dana: i saw, you are laughing uncontrol establishment >> greg: you worried that maybe viewers thought it was real. >> dana: i don't want to people to think president obama was holding up -- i blame the producers. seriously, not a joke. when you have reporters, do self-reflection and looking back, do you take it seriously? >> greg: you said, "may have given a pass." it wasn't a pass. it was a pardon. you talk about how the media is in the tank. in the tanks used to mean taking a dive. it was a boxes term that you actually tried to lose. but now being in the tank is actually a career enhancement. if you are not in the tank for obama you will destroy your career because you both agree on the same things. these are no longer reporters. they're lobsters. >> dana: interesting point. lobsters in a tank. thank you. obviously, that is a joke. explain it to me. it's not funny. >> greg: they're not really lobsters. metaphor. >> juan: they're boiling in hell. >> dana: i want to ask eric something, to compare it to economics. irrational bubbles like when you get the tech bubble or housing bubble, everyone thinks the prices are always going to go up. so you get the bubbles. then they burst. all of a sudden you look back and think wait, why did i ever think it was true? is this like obama media bubble is bursting? >> eric: i don't think that there is a bubble and i don't think it will burst. you know how you get used to $3.60 gasoline and then it's not a big deal? we are used to the main stream media being liberal and skewed left it takes jake tapper or mark halperin or jim from politico a few months ago saying yeah, the media skewed democrats. they vote democrat. well no,, no. it shouldn't be that way. they're not opinion. they should be reporting the facts. the facts are, the skew is, it's very much leaning to the left. shouldn't that way at all. point one quick thing out. mitt romney has $60 million more in his campaign war chest than president obama does. he will need it to get the message out, because it will cost him that much. >> dana: because media coverage for democrats is like in-kind contribution. juank take us back. >> juan: no, no, no. i'm not going to let him say -- >> dana: i hope you are nicer to me than the other day. i'm kidding. save that for one more thing. stave tuned. you got to hear this. >> greg: explain what it meant. >> juan: i got sick on monday. >> dana: held it in. >> juan: after the show. >> dana: when you covered the reagan, who did anybody talk about their own personal political beliefs? did anyone talk about media bias then? just of course people talk about it. they've talked about the media bias for all time. the issue was who had access. what you had to do to get access. were you in the loop and who got cut out of the action intentionally by mike dieber and the white house communication team, because they controlled what was happening. now you ask were they biased. i think it's always been said that reporters are more liberal than conservatives. certainly newspaper owners are more conservative than liberals. what i saw in the paper about the nba players. they give more money to president obama. but owners give more money to governor romney. i don't think there is anything here that is so amazing. i think what happened in 2007/2008 we had a tremendous financial crisis. of course people were going to report on it and have a reaction to the fact we were involved in two wars. >> dana: andrea, you followed the race closely in 2008. a complaint from the hillary clinton campaign it was a subtle thing that happen to them. they couldn't get the media to cover stories about president obama they thought should be covered like the state senate record they couldn't find. and did she suffer a bias? looking back, did they get so excited, media get so excited about the possibility of a obama presidency, they hurt her in the process? >> andrea: they did. they reported on things like her tearing up at a town hall. they focused on the wrong things. forget what the clinton campaign complaints were. look at the electorate. do we feel we know who president obama is four years later? no. the media's job to do the research. a lot of sus done our own. i think jake tapper what he said was insightful, he came out and said this. it's like instead of regulatory capture, it's journalistic capture. these reporters get so enthralled with president obama. to juan's point about access, they need access to keep their jobs. without access to write books or articles, they are not going to be a good reporter. they'll have to hear it from the boss. at the end of the day, i feel like they believe this stuff. they believe what he is doing. so that's why they don't question it. they don't see that there is anything wrong with it. >> juan: what jake said in the article, jake was clear that both sides play this game. so it wasn't just saying that the obama people. the second thing i would say here is this. i think the big journalistic sin of our time is not bias toward one candidate or another. it's equating that whatever anybody says is the equal what the other guy said. you can say the outrageous thing and you know what? the earth is flat. report it and say "a" said the earth is round. "b" said the earth is flat. two sides to the argument. >> eric: the host a show and call up the white house, can we get anybody? get anybody to explain the economic numbers? no, no, no. you turn on msnbc they got joe biden or a senior advisor, economic advisor. juan, you know yourself. when you fill in for o'reilly, you can't book the white house. you can't get them come on this network. >> juan: look, i sat in for bill for friday and i got ben le bolt, spokeman for the campaign. >> greg: you got ben le bolt. >> eric: when is the last time you had someone in the white house on fox news who will talk about -- just it's very difficult -- >> juan: it's very difficult. why does romney, paul ryan come on fox so much? they feel comfortable here. >> dana: they have done all the other ones. >> juan: oh, c'mon, dana. how often have they done fox compared to any other network? >> dana: i think that -- i remember chris wallace on "fox news sunday" couldn't get mitt romney for like the whole primary season. >> juan: he was dodging every sunday show. >> greg: if you want to see the consequences of media bias look at what happens when someone steps out of line. look at neil ferguson, wrote the cover story on "newsweek" critical of obama. tina brown comes out, the editor says she is standing by him. as though he like wrote a story condoning child murder. or euthanasia. no, he wrote an article that was critical of obama. the editor has to come out and say i stand by him. just did he cook numbers -- >> juan: did he cook numbers? cbosh numbers and said -- >> greg: wait. he just happened to be the only person who use mark halperin words who wasn't susceptible. mutual admiration bug that is obama love. >> andrea: very quickly to your point, a couple of hours ago tina brown had to come out and question his writing. so she stood behind him. she sat really agree with him, believe me. by the way, he could have written it better. >> dana: the colonoscopy. i'm quoting greg gutfeld. >> greg: they do an article and be liberal the rest. she through him under a double decker bus, because she is british. >> juan: i'm glad that is not you, i'm glad it was greg. you wouldn't say that. >> dana: a great point. i thought about it all week. mark halperin was on with luster holt. see what he says about media being susceptible. >> i think the press likes the story a lot. the media is very susceptible to doing what the obama campaign wants. >> dana: interesting thing about that is the access point. which is the thing that troubled me is he the other day with the local media, the white house put out rules of the road for like, how you are supposed to interview the president. don't do that. >> greg: why are we susceptible? this is a scientific point. i have three older sisters and i grew up with the beatles, osmonds and garrett. all obama is justin bieber without the bangs. the difference between the media and young girls, young girls grow up. the media stays the same. >> eric: where are obama and biden and the rest of the senior cabinet members? they're on cbs. hanging out at cbs, abc. they are not coming here, juan. >> dana: they are doing "entertainment tonight" and "people" magazine. >> andrea: there seems to be a revolving door we forget about between politics and the media. george stephanopoulos was with the clinton administration. >> dana: joe biden communication director at the "washington post." >> andrea: the lines get so blurred. they build themselves as fair and balanced journalists. they're not opinion. >> dana: revolving door in the media is okay if you're liberal. with energy companies on the right is outrage. double standard. >> greg: i was going to say used to work for bush up-to-date'rbush and youare her. >> andrea: she is opinion. >> dana: i'm not pretendin pretending -- [ laughter ] >> andrea: dana doesn't put herself out as fair and balanced journalist. she is an opinion. >> dana: i'm the most fair here. coming up, which campaign is winning? we have new polling numbers and it might surprise you after this quick break. ♪ ♪ insulin users test often. freestyle lite can help you test easy. they need a third the blood of onetouch ultra. zipwik tabs target the blood and pull it in. call now for free strips and a meter. ♪ ♪ ♪ ♪ >> eric: welcome back. rnc is taking tampa by storm in five days. paul ryan taking the rnc by storm. here is ryan today at the very location that president obama made his infamous "you didn't build that" gaffe. v.p. candidate. >> from the fire station here in roanoke, he said if you have a small business, you did not build that. someone else did. it's an explanation. i tells us why our economy is not growing like it should. it tells us the mind set he is using to lead our government. i tells us that it's a government centered economy. that doesn't work. >> eric: the way he talks to us like we are adults and explains things has the g.o.p. buzzing. listen to ryan last night with sean hannity. >> i remember people hearing they hated the raid of the social security trust fund for all those years. now obama care does it to medicare and treats it like a piggy bank for obamacare. >> eric: what do you think, greg? >> greg: when you see hannity and ryan talking it's like a war of the hairlines there. has to be an inverse relationship between a love for small government and giant hairlines. if your look at judge andrew napolitano the hairline starts at the knees. i don't quite understand. romney hired a personal life coach. a personal trainer to keep him in the fight. did the opposite of what president obama did. obama hired biden to dilute the light weight leftism and romney picked ryan to reinforce the depth of his conservative. >> eric: paul ryan for the first time dug in the medicare debate. dug in. he is explaining these to people in a way we can understand it. >> andrea: this needs to be done. he is the perfect person to do it. building on greg's point, too, he didn't just help him stay in the fight. ryan got romney in the fight. it says a lot. also about mitt romney that he would pick somebody that is willing to take on that issue. you have to give romney credit for that. you do, people say it'sry i can. if there is anyone to explain it to seniors and have a dialogue, it's someone like paul ryan. he is not going to one, patronize the way the obama ticket is to women, hispanics. he talks to us like we're adults like you pointed out. he explains things in a way i think that everybody can grasp. he is a perfect person to do it. without going out there making jokes and eating dogs and dogs on the roof. all this silly stuff, speculating about the tax return. sticks to the facts. >> dana: ryan is a very serious guy, right? i have had a chance to known him for a while, he doesn't smile much in the hannity interview. he knows everything about everything so he doesn't have to mask anything with jokes as you point out. >> greg: what are you trying to say? [ laughter ] people use jokes to mask their lack of knowledge? >> andrea: i think you to be very smart to be funny. >> dana: greg is totally making me speechless today. it had a good point to make. now it's totally left my head. >> eric: juan, the medicare, the $716 billion coming out of medicare going to obamacare. for the first time, we spent time analyzing these things. for the first time in a long time, i understand what is going on here, juan. they're taking the money out the way they raided the social security trust fund. trust fund is supposed to have $2 trillion in it. it has nothing but debt and ious in it. >> dana: i pads. >> juan: paul ryan is talking about piggy bank. you put lib shtick on this piggy bank. this is the most ridiculous thing i heard. when he is stalking about medicare he is talking about damaging medicare for seniors. you have seniors now who say i'm a strong republican a i'm going to back paul ryan. paul ryan, by the way, pick up on dana's point is adding intellectual heft to the fact that mitt romney doesn't have any. he doesn't explain himself. he doesn't have any about lowering taxes, dealing with the economy. >> andrea: you come out you make the statems like paul ryan is danieling medicare. and then you move on. you never explain them. you never explain why. just just this morning there -- >> juan: this morning there were report from brookings and the center of public health leadership, we don't understand. what is going on at romney headquarters? do they not understand how medicare works? why are they doing this? they would haitien insolvency and hurt seniors. >> dana: paul ryan knows exactly how medicare works. that's why people are responding well to him. i remember what i was going to say. remember when they introduced paul ryan on the romney ticket on "60 minutes" and one thing that the anchor asked him you realize you are going to have to talk about medicare, right? as if it's such a taboo thing. everybody just ignores it until later. i have been really -- people are dug in, understanding the issue more. seniors are like no, it won't effect us. it preserves it for a generation going forward. they like the plan better than no plan at all. >> eric: that is not true -- >> juan: that is not true. in defense of your point i'll be clearly fair and balanced here, i warn you -- >> eric: there is a poll coming out. go ahead. >> juan: sorry. i was going to say there is a poll that came out that said seniors who have been listening to ryan think what ryan has been saying makes sense about medicare. but the same poll -- >> eric: show the poll now. >> juan: all right. here is the poll. >> eric: there it is. favorable 50% for ryan. 35% unfavorable meanwhile of the same seniors, 41% for biden -- >> juan: right. i don't know if we have this poll to show, but the same source. it indicates that when people are asked what do you think about the medicare plan being proposed by paul ryan, premium plan, they don't like it. seniors don't like it. here is what is going on. they understand -- you know what? we listen to you, eric. >> eric: better part of three years to understand obamacare and we're still finding out things in it we didn't know about. give it time. paul ryan's plan is unveiled. >> andrea: we are talking about a plan and proposal by paul ryan, which is what he wants to us do and not talk about reality, obamacare. which has happened and is the law of the land. parties talk about cutting medicare for decades. but obama and the democrats were the first one to actually do it. >> juan: wait a second. obamacare is going to, in fact, recover medicare and give seniors more coverage, close the doughnut hole. >> dana: for free! >> greg: two contrasting message and two conventions. one convention, republican convention is about free will. the other has sandra fluke and about free pills. free will versus free pills. americans will make the right choice. >> eric: coming up, group of atheist is suing the 9/11 memorial to block a cross recovered from the world trade center attack. good people at the 9/11 memorial museum vowed to fight the atheists. we'll give your our five cents when we come back. ♪ ♪ all energy development comes with some risk, but proven technologies allow natural gas producers to supply affordable, cleaner energy, while protecting our environment. across america, these technologies protect air - by monitoring air quality and reducing emissions... ...protect water - through conservation and self-contained recycling systems... ... and protect land - by reducing our footprint and respecting wildlife. america's natural gas... domestic, abundant, clean energy to power our lives... that's smarter power today. this is the plan that revolves around you. introducing share everything. unlimited talk. unlimited text. and a single pool of sharable data that powers up to 10 devices. the first pl of it's kind. share everything. only from verizon. add a smartphone for just $40 monthly access. oh, we call it the bundler. let's say you ne home and auto insurance. you give us your information once, online... 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>> dana: i'm glad you brought that up. i was thinking earlier where was the -- what was the venue of the speech that president bush gave three days after 9/11 to try to heal the nation and bring everybody together? it was at the national cathedral. and everybody of every denomination went there. i believe in the first amendment. and free speech. but i wish the atheists groups would just shut up. >> juan: the key here, a lot of this is done by a non-profit group, right? so they're not the government. so they can do pretty much i think what they want. >> andrea: aren't they just being jerks, though? aren't they being jerks? >> juan: especially if they are being jerks they can be jerks. if they say it's a violation of the constitution and we're as an american people and american government somehow endorsing christianity, then i could see their point. but it's a non-profit group. by the way, i think the supreme court has ruled recently with the case of a cross in the mojaev desert there is no evidence that is an endorsement by the government. just that there is a cross there and doesn't suggest to any residential person now this is no longer a separation of church and state but means that the united states government is endorsing christianity. that is a -- that is going too far. >> andrea: part of the rubble, really. it's not something to promote christianity. why don't they let it go? >> greg: it's part of the rubble of suppressiv suppressive tolerance; meaning if you can't please everyone, you please nowhere. this is symbolic of something else. it sympathize with atheists because i have no clue what happens after you die. but they have to pick their battles. this is a really bad battle. i mean, the thing that gets me about atheism in general is that since the beginning of time humans wondered what happens. it's the biggest question in the world. how the world came about. they think it's a dumb question. and in this day and age, media and pop culture seem to believe that atheism is a higher intellectual plane than belief. to me that is more offensive than these sort of debates that seem to happen three times a year. the idea that just belief, itself, is silly or stupid. to me it's more insulting than this kind of stuff. >> andrea: no one goes after their nonbelief, for example, right? >> greg: people do. face it, atheists do get, they do get made fun of a lot. it's just that in modern culture, media, they are seen as more -- >> andrea: not like this. hold on. >> eric: they only get made fun of when they attack a courthouse in texas. >> andrea: hold on. to your point, take a look at this. billboards at the rnc and dnc actually making fun of christianity. so there you go, eric. this is what people say okay, you have your nonbelief. but really, do you have to go after other religions? >> eric: there was an atheist group in wisconsin, nothing to do with the state of texas complaining about a manger scene. not even on a public building. private area but visible to the public. they had a problem with that. they picked a place, to your point, they pick their fights where they get the most media exposure, not where it makes the most ideological sense to their argument. >> juan: let me say. i'm amazed. i didn't know the big question. that is the big question? i thought it had to do with hairline. or why is dana so cute? that is a big question. why is andrea so hot? that is a big question? >> eric: or eric so smart? >> juan: i didn't know. >> greg: it's not the biggest question, but the world's greatest practical joke. if you think about this, you get the answer you can't tell anyone. you can't tell anyone. >> eric: you could call back and say i'm a bear. >> greg: that is a psychic. >> andrea: trying to get people on your side and rally them on your side, don't go after other people's religions. >> juan: wait, they're atheists. they want to say they don't believe. >> andrea: if they want to us be tolerant to them, they should be tolerant to everybody else. >> juan: you know what? this is not unconstitutional is my point. i don't know what they are complain about here. >> andrea: they're jerks. coming up, prince harry get caught with his clothes off in vegas and it's all caught on camera. uh-oh, what will the queen think? we tell you what went down up next. ♪ ♪ i'm bret baier in washington. the big story here today is a dire prediction on the u.s. economy from the congressional budget office less than 11 weeks ahead of the election. tonight on "special report," cbo predicts a $1.1 trillion deficit for fiscal year 2012. the fourth straight trillion-dollar plus deficit under the president. cbo also says there could be a recession in 2013. we will lay out all the numbers. mitt romney and paul ryan ripped president obama on the economy today. they continue to make use of the president's "you didn't build that" comment. we take another look at paul ryan's medicare plan and the criticism of it. the one that passed the house. not the one that the president appears to be campaigning against. we update the saga of embattled missouri candidate tom akin who said again he will not drop out of race because of the comment what he called "legitimate rape." "special report" starts at 6:00 eastern. now back to new york and my colleagues with "the five." ♪ ♪ >> greg: that was a great band. new study reveals academia is biased against conservatives to which i add duh. here is what is new. up to a third of professors said they would discriminate against conservatives in hiring and grant proposals. so they're now openly admitting that rather than resist bias, they are governed by it. which is why we're governed by it now. think about it. we're ruled an cajoleed by what we have been told are the best and the brightest. media and in government. they're all products of places like harvard and columbia, so they can't possibly screw up. until you realize there is no way they can know they screw up. since their training ground weeded out any opposition or competition. that is how we got the most progressive president ever in a pretty rough time. he satisfied all the requirements, checking every left wing box. and nobody points out with idea is nonsense of the krugman magnitude, so the nonsense becomes reality. the left always fails when no righty is around to save them. the media response, they like the arrangement. when you look at who is doing the governing and reporting, they are ladles from the same pot. generous helping of the same spoiled meat. no wonder we're sick to our stomachs. thank you. i want to go to juan first. sick to your stomach. it never -- never buy fruit off the street, juan. >> juan: i didn't know. i'm such a silly person. i figure new york, new york has all the food carts now, right? i figure there must be food safety standards. >> greg: that wasn't a food cart you brought it from. a man holding -- >> juan: he was selling fruit shakes? >> greg: you have kids who are republicans. right? did i just out them? >> juan: well, that's true. >> greg: it's an oddity. liberal parent and conservative kids. >> juan: i don't know how liberal. yeah, i mean, in fact, my youngest who is working to get one of your republican pals re-elected when he went to the college i went to, he actually quit some classes because he said he is just sick of the professors who would not treat conservative arguments honestly. i understand that. i don't like the idea you would back off, because i think you engage the argument, force the conversation. but in this study what it said was that people who were doing the hiring who were looking at grant proposals literally would exercise bias against conservatives. what does it mean to me? it means that the quality of their work is less if you talk about something with political content. >> eric: ah. so therefore can we apply the same arguement to the media? will they exercise bias? much more equality. >> juan: you think it's bias pro-obama in every case. >> eric: don't you? >> juan: no. i think -- >> you admitted it in the "a" block there is a liberal bias in media. >> juan: i think there is a liberal bias, but most reporters are democrats. if that is what you are asking. >> eric: how is that any different than academia being biased? >> juan: is your plumber a democrat or republican? i don't care what he is. just come in and fix plumbing. most reporters are telling you a story. >> andrea: nobody is looking at my toilet seat for political reporting. your plumber comes in to fix the toilet. the media has a duty to report the facts. >> juan: they report facts as if they're all equal and sometimes people say crazy things an make it out like yeah, we have to tell you this, too. but it's not credible. >> juan: i thought about -- >> andrea: i thought of a better comparison between plumbers and the media but it's gross. >> dana: academia and the media partly because of chuck todd of the nbc says a geographical bias where people are concentrated. that's why academia couldn't understand the tea party. they were racist and they were this, that, and the other thing. because they are not willing to hire people who might have a different view from them, they are not enriched with a lot of different thought. so something new comes along and they're conventional wisdom is wrong. it's wrong on ryan in particular. they have the election wrong. >> greg: which is why they embrace occupy wall street. their assumption it. >> eric: more inn line with their assumption. >> dana: i just brought even together. >> eric: yes, you did. we can go. >> juan: let me say on the occupy wall street thing. this is another example i think everybody says oh, well, this is what it means to have one side and the other, when in fact, you know, we do have a wealth inequality in this country. people wonder why wall street gets bailed out. somehow, it's oh, yeah, it's -- >> greg: that is conservatism. >> juan: major trend in the society today, the rich are getting richer. >> greg: occupy wall street representing that concern, because by the time that movement was done, it resembled a different movement. gawps by the way, are you going to the congestion -- >> juan: by the way, are you going to the convention? 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"late september and i really should be back." welcome back to "the five." time for back-to-school shopping and national survey estimates it costs $683 per child. back to school supplies. if that seems steep, maybe because teachers are asking parents buy basic supplies for the classroom. budgets are tight. they also want parents to subsidize supplies for other students. dana, is this money well spent? >> dana: it's money that teachers feel like they have to spend. this is not just teachers problem. it's a management problem and it goes to in some school districts the squeeze that a lot of school districts feel because of pensions and also because of the management of the building, infrastructure and crumbling, so what is happening where you and i used to have to buy pencils, crayons, if you were lucky you got a crayon sharpener in the back. new trapper keeper now. you are asked to bring in card stock and paper towels and the post-it sticky notes, the flags for teachers. they are $8 apiece. talking to a friend the other day. she has three children. she said it will be $1,000 by the time she is done. i think that looking forward, the school districts if they are able to reform some of their mention plans they should think about what, how much taxpayer dollars you are spending to send your kids to school anyway. they need to buy the expensive type of things for the teachers. >> juan: in galveston, they want the kids to buy supplies for the printer. so the kids have to bring in reams of paper. what is going on here? i think because per-pupil spending is not down in this country. we have spend a lot of money in the school districts. so i don't understand. the kids now have to get a basic supply? >> andrea: think about to dan ab point what the schools have gotten themselves in to. it's not their rule to provide generous or lavish benefit package or their job to -- they are focused on nutrition. is there assails bar in the school. i -- salad bar in the school. we had tissues and paper towels. some of the kids have to buy tissue and paper towels. basic supplies when all we had to worry about in the day was remember the smelly marker, mr. sketch? i used to sit and sniff them in class. maybe that explains it. >> greg: i still do that. >> juan: according to the story, that is the top request from teacher right now is napkins, paper, tissue because they worry -- >> andrea: one last point. if localities are squeezed, the parents are being squeezed as well. they don't have the money they used to have as well. >> greg: teachers should stop squeezing students. forget. >> eric: not supply or cafeteria or the salary going on. what is going on is the pensions. the school district are getting crushed by pensions of teachers that work 15, 20 years, stay in tenure and continue to get benefits. they can't keep up. no matter what happens if the spending doesn't go up substantially per student, they're done. gawps but you are not going to say teachers that enter in a legitimate -- >> eric: here we go. talk to chris christie about that, he is making it happen in new jersey. >> greg: kids are finally learning something in class. how to spread the wealth. they're learning about socialism. parents earn, we take, we spread it around. now they know. >> dana: obamacare by the time they are elderly a seniors they will go to the doctor an bring with them a stethoscope and things like that for the doctor. >> greg: i used to dress up as a doctor. >> dana: i don't know anything about that. >> greg: last year. jus >> juan: why do you think he is always talk about colonoscopy? >> dana: i don't know. >> juan: what happened in vegas isn't staying in vegas for prince harry. one more thing is next. stay with us. ♪ ♪ this is the plan that revolves around you. introducing share everything. unlimited talk. unlimited text. tap into a single pool of shareable data and add up to 10 different devices, including smartphones and tablets. the first plan of its kind. share everything. only from verizon. get $100 off select motorola 4g lte smartphones like the droid razr. >> dana: time now for one more thing. >> eric: i'll go quickly. yesterday, president obama was in ohio. this is how you're supposed to spell "ohio." this is how president obama and his crew spelled "ohio. "o-i-h-o. a little oops. point this out right there. [ laughter ] >> greg: that is not nice. not nice. everybody who watches the show knows i'm an expert in pop music. i love music. every once in a while a song comes along that speaks to me as though the song is actually about me. it's weird. here it is. >> ♪ am i enough for you ♪ now you've got on fox, too ♪ with eric, dana bob ♪ don't forget kimberly, too ♪ ♪ greg gutfeld ♪ greg gutfeld ♪ greg gutfeld >> greg: i'm pretty sure this song is about me. that's from doug teague. greg gutfeld. 'canes he is the brother of a friend of mine, don teague, who is a great reporter. i don't know why doug teague likes you so much. i played that the other day i had that song in my head for hours and it was driving me crazy. good song, though. andrea? >> andrea: what do horses and the detroit water and sewage department have in common? nothing. but guess what? the water and sewage department employees yes, a horseshoeer. so despite having no horses, in the water and sewage department, the city of detroit employs someone to tend to horseshoes though there is no horseshoes there. union bosses were asked about this and said sorry, we can't get rid of the position. the position pays $29,000 a year in salary and $27,000 year in benefit. they are going bankrupt. we talk about the unions. speaking of horse, i'll be on "red eye" tonight. work me in the song, too. ♪ andrea tantaros >> juan: whoa! >> juan: i don't know about that one. what fits with what we're talking about here. you know the saying? what happens in vegas stays in vegas? not when it comes to prince harry. he went there and he was partying. with his pals and apparently so were people with cameras. they took pictures of the prince with unclosed maidens, having a great old time. >> greg: he was also naked. >> juan: yes. >> dana: the queen was not amused. >> juan: the lead is what? >> eric: he was naked. >> juan: for me the girls were naked. okay. whatever you're like. this was happening, he is at this curby place at the mgm grand. >> dana: speaking of british royalty, our own stewart varney and i were on hannity. he corrected my grammar. i want you to listen. >> watching them together, they just fit. >> like me and stuart.