It was americans that did this. I think we can also both agree that both twitter and facebook have enormous power as a result of your second. Success. You are not companies; you are countries, at least in terms of power. I want to test a point of view here. I am sure i subscribe to it, but i want to get your thoughts on it. Mr. Dorsey, do you believe everything you read . No. Why not . I think its healthy to have skepticism about everything and have a mind set of verifying it and using as much information as possible to do so. Do you have somebody on your staff who protects you from reading things that they think you should not . No. Mr. Zuckerberg, do you believe everything you read . No, senator. Why not . Because a lot of things are incomplete or incorrect. You exercise your own judgment . Yes, senator. Do you have somebody on your star whose staff whose job is to filter things they think you should not be reading . Senator, not externally. Although i would hope that the teams i work with internally do their best to make sure that the information they are presenting with me are always accurate. Heres a point of view. I am not sure i subscribe to it, but its a legitimate point of view i think. I would like to know your thoughts on it. You have both and this is directed to each of you you have both democrats and republicans upset with you. The democrats are upset with you, this point of view holds, because they want you to publish i am not using that word as a term of art or science here with any special meanings the democrats want you to publish stuff on your platforms that they agree with, but they dont want you to publish stuff that they disagree with. This point of view also holds that the republicans are upset with you because they want you to publish things on your platforms that they agree with but they dont want you to publish stuff on your platforms they disagree with. What if we had a rule, what if your companies had a rule, this is a question not a suggestion what is your companies had a rule that said, okay, people arent morons. I would like to treat people as they treat me. Hmmm, that is that i can read what i want to read and exercise my own good judgment about whether or not i choose to believe it. So heres the rule we are adopting. If you go on twitter or facebook, you cant bully people. You cant threaten people. Maybe this is a subset of both of those, but you cant commit a crime with your words. And you cant incite violence. But other than that, can you print any damn thing you want to ask we will let our users judge. Give me your thoughts on that. [silence]. Those are generally the rules we have. Our focus on these policies no you dont, mr. Dorsey. You are censoring right and left trying to make both sides happy. You are making neither side happy. No, thats not the intention. I know its not the intention but its the result. I can see why you might say that. Thats why we think its important we add more transparency to how we moderate content and give more control to individuals to moderate their own content and focus on algorithms. Our policies are focussed on making sure people feel they can express themselves in the first place. Everything you mentioned about bullying and harassment and incitement to violence. Excuse me for interrupting, but my time is limited and i want to hear from mr. Zuckerberg. You have started to censor content. Why not have both mr. Biden and mr. Trump able to say whatever they want to on your platform as long as they dont threaten, bully, incite violence or commit a crime . I am not justifying the use of twitter or facebook to hurt. Mr. Zuckerberg, what are your thoughts on my suggestion . Get out of the censorship business other than the exceptions i talked about. Senator, in principle, i agree with what you are saying. Although i think there are more categories of arm than just the ones you mentioned. But i think the basic principle behind what you are saying is a definition of Free Expression that says that people should be able to share their opinions broadly, except if its going to cause imminent or irrepable harm to another person. Even ardent First Amendment supporters agree you should not be able to yell fire in a crowded theater because that puts people in imminent hard. You mentioned Child Exploitation as harm. The debate is what are other forms of harm . For example, we for the middle of a pandemic. We assessed that misinformation about covid and treatments that could put people in additional risk of getting the disease or not seeking the right treatment if they have it, that those are also things that could cause imminent harm. We have taken the position mr. Zuckerberg, let me interrupt you and i really do apologize. But i am going to be cut off in a second and appropriately so. I am not saying you are wrongdoing what you just described, but that makes you a publisher. And that creates problems with section 230. I just think one point of view is at some point, we have to trust people to use their own good judgment to decide what they choose to believe and not believe. And not try to assume that we are smart and they are stupid and that we can discern believable information and information that should understand be believed but everybody else is too stupid to do it. Okay. I am done, thank you mr. Chairman. We will go back to that hearing in a moment. We have a wonderful guest. This is health and human secretary mr. Azar. We have 2 vaccines have to be diabeticed across the country. Alex azar laid out this plan through operation warp speed. It means getting syringes and ppe to a distributor to make sure it will get to the pharmacies or Public Health clinics. Thats the plan. Will it work. Thats why we are interrupting up the hearing for just a minute to bring in Health Secretary alex azar. We should make a moment to celebrate the innovation of the scientists here in america and the partners these companies have. Absolutely. President trump deserves the credit for basically conceiving of the possibility, the vision we could get a vaccine within a year. Instead we have it within 10 months. These are not just any ordinary vaccines. Thanks to operation warp speed and the effort to scale up manufacturing and run 30,000 plus clinical trials, these are over 90 effective vaccines. This is big news. Dana it is. You have the 2 companies and maybe more will have effective vaccines. How do you figure out a way to mass produce enough . 10 million doses is not enough to get everybody taken care of . Do they pool resources and share information . This was the genius of operation warp speed. We began making these doses even as we were testing to see if they would work. We already stock piled millions of doses of both vaccines. We are manufacturing 4 other vaccines in operation warp speed. Thats what will enable us for moderna and pfizer if they get fda authorization, we will have 40 million approve doses by the end of december. It will keep going month after month. More production. Dana we know there are the tiers of who should get it first. Healthcare workers and the vulnerable. You have figured that out. My mom as an example. Early 70s. Denver, colorado. Very much wants to get back to her life. At this point, how does she choose who to call to get in line to get the vaccine . Which vaccine to get . How does that work . Now that its more real and it looks like we will have this vaccine, you get down to the nittygritty of how do you get it done . Yes. It will be a Controlled Distribution approach as we have more limited supplies in the first couple of months. We will focus on those most vulnerable and you mentioned a couple of them. Healthcare workers and then our most vulnerable. Individuals in Nursing Homes and assisted living. We will look at the data and the cdc will make recommendations 0 to send it. Will be very controlled initially with the limited vaccine. Dana my mom should not call her doctor and ask to be put on a list for december 20th . Thats right. There is no waiting list or program like that at this point. We will move in that type of general distribution moving into the months ahead. Initially it will be very focussed, Nursing Homes and s t assisted living and emergency first responders. We used to get 90 million vaccine for children out through the cdc and 170 million flu vaccine every year. Dana right. I participated in the pandemic exercise in 2005. When it got to the part there was the distribution, that was one of the most interesting things. How you get it done is a super important part of this. There is politics going on. President elect joe biden yesterday suggested if there is no coordination more people might die. Take a listen. More people may die if we dont coordinate. If we have to wait until january 20th to start that planning, it puts us behind over a month and a half. Its important that it be done and that there be coordination now. Dana doesnt all of that planning continue regardless . You said operation warp speed is in place for all americans. It would just continue to move forward with no interruption. Youre absolutely right. Planning doesnt begin on january 20th. Planning began many months ago. We put out 64 pages of detailed specs to states and local jurisdictions. I have a comprehensive distribution plan. We work with each one. These are career people at cdc and operation warp speed that are working on that. They continue no matter what. There will be consistency and professionalism. The Distribution Program will go on uninterrupted. Dana secretary azar we appreciate you joining us today. Thanks. Dana back to the hearing with tech giants and the Senate Judiciary committee. We put that information about Election Results at the top of facebook and irntnstagram for everyone to see. Do you want to respond about the algorithms too . Do you have specific measures to prevent algorithms from posting false content . Yes. President trump right now is spreading dangerous misinformation about our electoral process. Its going on right now. Maybe if these gentlemen, through this ongoing process right now, there are steps you will be taking you have not already said as we are going into what could be very dangerous waters, unprecedented waters in this country . Are there any additional steps you will take to stop the further amplification and undermining of our democracy . We are headed depending on a president that has been errattic, there are steps you will take to address this misinformation we are seeing is coming in an unrelenting manner . [silence]. Take to address th misinformation we are seeing is coming in an unrelenting manner . [silence]. This is what we planned for. We stopped recommending all civic and political groups at risk of misinformation. We have paused all political ads because of a risk of abuse and inflaming violence. There are a number of other steps we have taken as well. We have done this in other countries and it worked. I would be happy to followup on that. Mr. Dorsey, any new steps you want to give me . We will remain diligent. I think its important that we stay agile and learn about the effectiveness of this work and how to carry it forward. And if the chairman will indulge one more question to mr. Zuckerberg. I was pleased that the group stop the steal that was formed on facebook with disinformation, i was grateful that you all suspended that account after 24 hours. I am concerned about what lessons you learned. Outside groups like the center for countering digital hate slammed calls for violence hours before facebook did. A lie can travel halfway around the world while the truth is still putting its pants on. What does facebook factor in, in terms of speed to combat surges of disinformation . And maybe another example, an twitter suspended mr. Bannons twitter account after he said things about act of violence against dr. Fauci and wray. Why would facebook not take a similar stand . Mr. Zuckerberg, could you talk about the speed issue . Your platforms diverge. I wonder why twitter saw that as a standard to remove but you left up you are not following that decision. Thanks, senator. I am happy to address both of those. On speed you are right thats important. Part of what we focussed on is figuring out which times of messages or things will go viral quickest. Because its not just about trying to get to everything within 5 hours, for example. Its much more important to get to the parts going viral quickly within an hour. Even for some groups that dont much distribution, it might take longer. Staying on top of the hashtags spreading this content. We are able to move faster as well. We are very focussed on that. Thank you, very much. Mr. Chairman. The second part of the question i would love to get on the record. Mentioned earlier and you said chairman graham will be chairman again. You said something about social medias effects on the kids. They have twice the rates of eating disorders and image concerns. I know our two gentlemen would love to discuss with that other experts, but there is something going on with the selfesteem of our children who are affected by these platforms. When you use the term addiction or not there is enough evidence that these platforms and children on them is causing an effect on their will being. I would love to do a hearing sometime soon. We will followup. Last but not least. That is correct. I appreciate that. Even though my colleague from new jersey went twice his time. These are senate minutes. Yes, senate minutes. I will agree with my colleagues who talked about the impact on children. The distribution of information that damages women and children that leads to violence against women and children, human trafficking, using these flat forms by pedophiles. This is something we will continue to work on. In the house we passed legislation to put more tools in the hands of local Law Enforcement to fight this. Yall at the social media platforms have to work with us on this to protect our children. I will also say that we are keeping an eye and with each of you yesterday, i talked about your financial components. Mr. Dorsey and mr. Zuckerberg and the applications of these components to your sites. We are talking about 2020 elections but looking ahead to clean up what transpired before the 2022 election. Its fair to say yall are probably fully aware there is great frustration with americans and with this committee in the way you act invincible and your employees act like you are the gods of the silicone valley. Facebook and twitter is beginning to conduct yourself as news publishers and distributesors. We have asked if you are great transparency and accept more responsibility. You have chosen to do neither so its up to us to hold you to account on behalf of the American People. Section 230 the reforms we will put in place will take away this liability shield that you turned into an opaque wall that you and your moderators are hiding behind. The online freedom and Viewpoint Diversity act. I thank the chairmans for working with me on this. This is set up for a markup in this committee on thursday. Mr. Zuckerberg, you stated earlier we need to put definition in place. We will do that. We are going to take away nebulous language and be specific unlawful. Inciting personal harm or terrorism. We are going to clear that up for you. Mr. Zuckerberg, facebook is more like a government than a traditional company. Thats a statement you have made. There is a lot of power in that for you. Yes or no, on a couple of questions here. Does facebook routinely censor a user account at the behest of a foreign government, yes or no . Senator, i am not sure if there is anything in particular you are referring to. Well, there is something particular that i am referring to it. I will answer it. Yes, you have done. That. You have 60 million users in vietnam. A communist regime. Did facebook shut down and ban the account of the vietnamese disdent because he criticized the governments land policy, yes or no . Hmmm. Senator, i am not familiar with all of the details of that. But i believe that we may have done that. In general we try to follow the local law. Yes, you did. You kept him off for 3 months. In turkey does facebook have an ant ant antiblas fame policy . We dont have a policy. The answer is yes. We follow local laws. Under pressure from the russia government did facebook take down a post advicing the support of a dissident . The answer is yes. Do you believe its facebooks duty to comply with state sponsored censorship to keep operating and doing business selling ads in that country . Senator in general, we try to comply with the laws in every country where we operate and do business. Okay. I think you put profit over principle. When you look at these countries also in communist china. They have banned their citizens from you. You cant operate there. In china, twitter, you have an opponent there. You have to knock off a Chinese Communist party owned company. Your Companies Even though they are banned there, you are still trying to do business in those countries. Mr. Dorsey, does twitter do business there . Hmmm. I dont believe so. But we can followup. Oh, i can answer it for you, sir. You helped launch their site and its featured on twitters marketing place website. Do you do business with jack moss and their links to the Chinese Communist party . You mean allowing them to advise . Your answer is yes. Mr. Zuckerberg, last years chinas top regulator spent over 800,000 dollars to advertise and promote china to the American People on facebook . The point of all of this and the answer to that mr. Zuckerberg, whether you are aware or not, is you probably are. You know they are gaining access to this market. This is why we are going to keep a legal close watch what you are doing with libra and square because we see what has happened. Its important for us to protect people and to protect human rights. Let me move to election content and that monitoring. We do have concerns about some of the things that happened there. Mr. Zuckerberg, let me ask you this have you heard of the trump accountability project . Senator, i am not familiar with that. Thats a project that is an attempt to black list americans who have served in the Trump Administration and to prohibit them from gaining future employment. In communist china, in putins russia, the government regularly will issue a black list on their enemies and they are banned from getting a job. This seems disturbing that it would be happening here in in country. Mr. Zuckerberg, do you agree with me there is seriously something wrong with an unamerican black list barring people from future employment simply because they belong to a Different Political Party . Senator, i generally agree that people should not be discriminated against because of political beliefs. Okay, thats a positive step. Now on facebook, i wrote in a post and i am quoting. The trump accountability project is the epitome of the cancel culture. Our nation as benefitted from robust political debate. This effort to silence those who support our president is vile. As you can tell from this statement, nothing was said about the election or the results directly or indirectly. But somehow i got slapped with your elections flag sticker. What each of you need to realize and you have heard it time and again today. You say are dont keep lists. Obviously you have lists. Because there are some of us who are regularly censored and called down by your content moderators. Do we want to see these lists . Yes how have you built these lists . We want to know. I would remind each of you, you are a title1 service. You are an information service. You are to be the new public square. But what you are doing with your power that you have derived, because federal law gave you the ability to stand up and grow without being hit by lawsuits, you have used this power to run amuck. You have used it to silence conservatives. You have it used it to build your lists. You have used this power to act like you hold all the power, that you can make these decisions. You have driven this cancel culture because you have not called to account your moderators. You have refused to take responsibility for your employees and their actions. Thereby reining you in on issues of privacy, data security, content moderation. Liability protections. Defining who is a publisher in the virtual pace that, is up to us. You have proven you dont have the will, strength and ability and you wont accept the responsibility to do it for yourselves. I yield my time. Thank you very much, senator blackburn. The two witnesses you made it through. I think you hopefully will understand better about where the committee is at and our concerns. I want to thank you for appearing. I wish we can do it in person, but i understand why we had to do it remotely. We will have more hearings come up and the next congress to find ways to modify 230 to deal with some of the issues brought before the committee. I want to thank you both. And just say you have been hugely successful in ways probably beyond your own imagination. We have problems around your platforms that have to be dealt with. We will do it. The bottom line is we want to make these platforms better. We want to continue to grow this part of our society responsibly. And right now, without regulation or without lawsuit, its becoming the wild, wild west. I appreciate both of you for being willing to try to find ways to come up with dana we have been watching the tech hear chaired by lindsey grah graham. I want to bring in jason rant. You watched the entire thing with me. The big headline to me is the senators are still frustrated. We have seen this throughout this year. Dorsey and zuckerberg both support change to section 230 which is the paragraph written into the 1996 Telecommunications Act that allows these platforms to thrive without threat of litigation. Both sides want to do something. The question is what do they want to do . That depends on who has the power in the senate. Thats why all eyes should again be on georgia. Democrats are concerned with the censoring or not amplifying certain content they focus their time and attention on militia violence but not antifa violence and the gop wants assurances of content neutral policies, so conservative content is not censored. Everyone is angry. I think there will be bipartisan support on smaller things. Section 230 doesnt exist in a bubble. It doesnt just impact social media. Anything they do will have to be tailor made to social media or will it have significant implications. Dana Lindsey Graham the senator from south carolina, these are american companies. He said we want to work on this together. We want this tech sector to continue to thrive. Section 230, new entrants to the mark market, section 230 protects you as well. You could have the republicans and the democrats coming to the same conclusion for Different Reasons and it hinges on georgia. Jack dorsey of twitter said they made a mistake in the censoring of the New York Post with the hunter biden story. Your thoughts there . Yes, they made a mistake at a time in which it was crucial to the campaign to highlight that story and make sure it gets out there. Senator cruz and senator lee made the points that mistakes happened and they impacted the conservative side. I have not heard a lot of mistakes happening on the left in major ways. You could argue part of the reason is that the right is doing some fake news and there is the allegation that the president is active on twitter. Maybe because he is flooding the zone with content, maybe he gets hit more than others. At the end of the day social media and big tech knew that the senate was looking into this. They made the choice to get involved in censoring content or flagging certain content based on its speech. When you go after the New York Post or any media organization, you are becoming a publisher. Dana and google was not in here and youtube did not have to testify. Maybe they will be back. This issue is not done. Thanks for listening to all of. Next the Trump Campaign is in federal court in pennsylvania right now trying to stop the battleground state from certifying Election Results. The president s campaign is suing over election irregularities in pennsylvania. They are challenging the results of the election. In georgia, election workers are facing a deadline of midnight tomorrow to finish a hand recount of the race. John roberts will catch us up. Live on the north lawn. Good afternoon. Rudy giuliani is arguing on behalf of the Trump Campaign. He made his opening argument a little while ago. There is a rebuttal case for the state. In pennsylvania court, its a motion to dismiss the Trump Campaign complaint about unequal protection for Republican Voters versus democratic voters and the Trump Campaigns desire to have 700,000 votes not scrutinized thrown out of the election. If this motion to dismiss is granted, this would be a big blow are in the Trump Campaign. If it is not granted and this goes to trial, that might give them new momentum in the keystone state. The Trump Campaign finding reason for optimism in georgia. More than 2600 ballots were not included in the initial vote count in floyd county. Someone forgot to upload a memory card. That should reduce the margin by 800 votes. Not enough to turn the tide. Biden had a 14,000 vote lead going into the recount. More problems could be discovered during this recount. There was no process to verify signatures but the state of georgia said that is not true and there is a process to verify signatures. The Trump Campaign pointed to clark county, nevada, where will there a special election because of ballots discrepency in another race. Clark county officials do not have confidence in their only election security. Its unclear that the impact will be. If they are limited to the county commissioner race and there is a special election it will be only be for the county commissioner and not include the president ial race. But its conceivable the Trump Campaign could say if these ballots are thrown out because of discrepancies. Ure cant limit it to the county commissioner. You have to include the president ial race. Its 150,000 ballots. Dana and breaking news that the president S National Security advisor spoke about the troop draw down in afghanistan . Yes. Robert obrien said by january 15th the United States will draw down troops in both iraq and afghanistan to a level of 2500 in each country. Heres what obrien said. January 15, 2021, american troops in both countries will go to 2500 personnel. Those troops will defend our embassies and other agents of the u. S. Government. They will enable our American Allies and their Important Missions in those countries. They will defend our Police DepartmeDepartment Diplomats and deter our foes. Robert said the president is fulfilling a Campaign Programs promise to end the endless wars. There was a big disagreement with the white house and the former sect of defense mark esper. Even the military commander of the pentagon is not on board with this. The president made that announcement today they will draw down troops to 2500 as of january 15th and try to get them home 4 months later. Dana john roberts, thank you very much. Republican congressman from illinois. You served in these wars in the middle east. Your thoughts on this Development Today . I think its nonsensical. I am having a hard time sowing what the difference is between this and the mistake president obama made to leave iraq in 2011 which President Trump hailed on the campaign trail, that obama should not have pulled out. That created isis. The president promised to destroy isis. Leaving iraq and afghanistan with 2500 troops its more of a focus on the number than the mission. Thats a huge concern. If you have troops in Peace Keeping operations, the numbers should not be what you concerned with. The mission is your top concern. Dana tell me isis and is it reconstituting itself . They had some success finding pockets in afghanistan to rebuild. Thats the big thing to keep in mind. Isis is not just a caliphate. We get focussed on the territory they control. Isis is an idea. When you give territory, it gives credence and strength to this idea of isis. They can go out and recount. When you give areas for them to plan and to build and to grow and to recount through, you have a real risk of reconstituting isis. If you think about the fact that the prophecy of these extremists believe they will face peril but some day rise up and destroy the west, this is like the perfect recruiting tool for them. They can say we pushed the United States out. I dont understand why the president who made the defeat of isis a big cornerstone of his campaign is doing this which could give them a massive victory. Dana the president said even before he ran for president. He wanted to end these foreign wars. Thought they were endless and thought too much blood was sacrificed for these places that have not been able to governor themselves. Is that persuasive to you or congress on the hill. Senator mcconnell spoke about it yesterday as well . Its not persuasive to me. We live in a world where we cant just put up the walls and pretend like the rest of the world doesnt exist. They can recruit over the internet. We cant wish it away. To leave isis to this victory and leave afghanistan when over 80 of the Afghan People want us there. I understand the president s desire to get out. But every president inherits imperfections from another president. The key is to do the right thing for the country. I think this will be looked back upon as a mistake like what president obama did in 2011. Dana thank you. Brian is next. Veterans, record low Mortgage Rates have just dropped even lower. Using their va benefits, veterans who refi at newday can now save 3000 dollars a year with the va streamline refi. At newday theres no income verification, no appraisal, and not a single dollar out of pocket. One call can save you 3000 a year. Balanced nutrition for strength and energy. Whoohoo great tasting ensure with 9 grams of protein, 27 vitamins and minerals, and nutrients to support immune health. Lexus has been celebrating driveway moments. 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More than 73,000 americans were hospitalized with covid19 on monday according to the covid tracking project. A week ago the u. S. Reported more than 60,000 hospitalizations since the pandemic began but its been above that mark every day for the past week. Thats a huge concern. Healthcare workers are begging the public for help by doing their part. We have used our emotions, our physical abilities, our Vacation Time for the last 8 months. We need everyone to put aside their political and final motives and follow the directions of our health experts. A host of new restrictions go into effect in michigan tomorrow including a ban on Indoor Dining something the state Restaurant Association could force 40 of restaurants to shut down. Dana thanks. Lots to remember before flying to another country. Have your passport and neck pillow and do the airport covid test. United airlines giving tests to all passenger before some flights. If you refuse, can you take another flight. Live at Newark Liberty until airport. This is new, lauren . It is the first covid free flight landed in london this morning. All 36 passenger on that transatlantic flight were covid testing at the airport prior to boarding. The rapid tests were administered for free. Its a Pilot Program that united spearheaded to open back up the transatlantic market. Despite testing all passenger on select flights for the next month, they still have to quarantine for 14 days in london. That adds insult to injury. Overseas travel is down 74 from this time last year. Mass vaccines are still months away. They are trying to show you can get rid of travel restriction size testing is used. Dana Democratic Leaders getting heat for defending their own coronavirus restrictions. Brian, its happening in california. People dont like to be told to do one thing and find out their leaders are doing something else. Gavin newsom said i found myself at a party. And governor lightfoot in chicago said i have to celebrate joe bidens victory. And chris cuomo did or didnt pretend to have the virus. Walking around town and had it and could have gotten people infected. Its like they are mocking us. They are mocking the people that put them in office. Putting them under restrictions and doing this. Why are you doing it right in front of us. Dana do you wear a vest like that at a speakeasy . No, i do it for dana perino. Dana listen to joe biden. He said that we have to get ahold of the virus to help the economy. Once we shut down the virus and deliver Economic Relief to workers and businesses, we can build back other than before. Dana isnt that what everybody has been saying . They are locking us down but not using the term because its unpopular. Think about washington and what is happening in michigan. What will be happening in wisconsin. They are locking us down. Doing the same thing. They are getting the water hotter until we realize its boiling. Who will die is businesses. Dana you love this city. New york is an economic engine for the world. The economy may not recover until 2025. They think President Joe Biden will write a big check. There is no urgency to get the Taxpayer Base going you remember should not be riding alone like i was on at 5 oclock. Nobody is working. Its mentally ill and homeless people. There is no incentive to come to work because they feel like a big check is coming from the government that is drastically overdrawn. Thats why the governor has been quiet about the bail out. Thats why he demanded joe biden 3. 4trillion dollars. Even nancy pelosi backed off to 2. 4trillion dollars. He thinks he is getting it all. Thats why georgia is so important. Dana you mean the senate run off . If he has 5050 the democratic president all of those checks will go out. We cant afford to cash them. It will be pure dept. Dana the democrat running for the senate in georgia said he doesnt want this race to be nationalized. Its too late. I think so. And yang just asked everyone to move to georgia. Dana he backed off of that. He doesnt want to be associated with Chuck Schumer who made one of the biggest mistakes of his political career when he said we change america. Dana he said it once and the reporter asked him to repeat it. He said it again with the mask on. First we take georgia and take america. His mistake was not wearing a vest. Dana bill hemmer will take over for me. What do you think about this vest . Bill its wearing on me. Dana [laughing]. Bill 4th grade. Brian, you look great. Breaking news. This is developing from baghdad and the pentagon. In the last hour, we were informed that President Trump ordered a draw down of troops in iraq and afghanistan by mid january to the tune of 2500 total in both theaters. We get reports a moment ago about rockets fired into the green zone in baghdad near the u. S. Embassy. There is just developing. Acting