Transcripts For FOXNEWSW Sunday Morning Futures With Maria Bartiromo 20141221

Well. And historic policy changes with cuba, including lifting of economic sanctions against the communist country. Is now the right time . Our panel will weigh in as we look ahead on sunday morning futures. Good morning. Sony pictures now saying that it is actively looking for an alternative way to distribute the movie the interview, other than in theaters. It pulled distribution ahead of its Christmas Day opening following hacked emails and a terror threat. The fbi has linked it to north korea. Congressman peter king is a member of the House Permanent Select Committee on intelligence and the committee on homeland security. Congressman, we will get to sony in a moment. Good morning to you. Thank you for joining us. Good morning. But i want to kick it off, of course, talking about this horrific story breaking here in new york, the executionstyle shooting of two Police Officers yesterday in brooklyn. You made a statement, congressman, about needing to get together as a country and support our police. Tell us what youd like to see happen. Yeah, maria, first of all, thank you for having me on, and this is an absolute tragedy what occurred in new york, and its really time for our national leaders, the president , its time for the mayor of new york and really for many in the media to stop the cop bashing, to stop this antipolice rhetoric. I mean, for the last four months, weve basically heard nothing other than the cops are guilty, presumed cops are guilty, then the grand jury says theyre not going to be indicted. People demonstrate, march in the streets, and its so slanted. For instance, the case in Staten Island. Its supposed to be racial. As tragic as that was, the fact is, it was an African American chief of the Police Department who sent in the Police Officers at the request of minority business owners. The topranking Police Officer at the scene was an African American female sergeant. And yet, that didnt stop al sharpton and others from demonstrating. Mayor de blasio says if we have any evidence at all of any indication that police are going to be attacked to let him know. Well, the fact is, last week there were thousands of demonstrators in fact, earlier this week, there were thousands of demonstrators chanting they wanted dead cops, they wanted dead cops now. Right. The mayor never denounced that. And then you had people attacking the cops in the Brooklyn Bridge and the mayor refers to them as an alleged assault, something which he never said in Staten Island or ferguson. Well, i mean, you know, the mayor has been supporting al sharpton. In your statement, you said our National State and local leaders should stop elevating people like al sharpton. What would you like to see done . Well, first of all, rather than having al sharpton to the white house to discuss race relations, i think it would be very appropriate for the president to have the families of Police Officers who have been killed or have cops down there who actually work in the streets, who work in the rough neighborhoods who know what its like, to get their side of the story. The president s idea of a conversation is to find out how we can make the cops better, assuming that the cops are wrong to begin with. And its that type of a mood thats being created which creates a climate where you can have mad men, im assuming this guy was a mad men, who carried out these crimes. He came from baltimore to new york to kill two new york city cops. Why . Because of all the rhetoric out there, because of the climate has been created where its being considered perfectly appropriate for thousands of people to demonstrate, calling cops murderers and killers after a grand jury says that the Police Officer was not guilty. Well, theres clearly a lot of upset and certainly rage, congressman, on both sides here. How do you then respond to the people who are upset by the recent decisions after murders of black boys who were not doing anything wrong . Well, in fact, the grand jury found that they were. Certainly, in the case in ferguson, where Michael Brown, the grand jury found was coming after a Police Officer. First he had held up a convenience store, then he tried to take away the Police Officers gun and then he was coming after him. So, that to me is not some innocent kid. And in Staten Island, we had a person, and he never should have been killed. That was a tragic accident. And 99 out of 100 times, he wouldnt have been hurt at all. The fact is, he was arrested 30 times before. He was resisting arrest. And the job of the police was to take him down. But i would think, by the way, all these athletic teams, the nfl or the nba, College Basketball teams who are wearing the shirts denouncing the cops or supporting Michael Brown and supporting eric garner, i would say this week as a show of respect, why dont they wear shirts defending the nypd as a sign of solidarity to the two Police Officers who were killed in the prime of life, who were assassinated in a tragic assassination and murder, which takes us back to the 1970s . My father was a cop then. I remember that whole period, how terrible it was, how tough it was, and theres no reason we should go back to it. I thought we had gotten beyond that but rhetoric today, unfortunately, i think is creating a climate which is bringing back the 1970s. Well, once again, the country is desperate for leadership and desperate for somebody or something to bring us together. How can we come together, congressman . I would say if the president and the mayor and others would tone down the rhetoric, if they would not assume that the cop is guilty from day one, and if they could have a real debate not have people like al sharpton at the meeting but having intelligent people on both sides, having people who understand what the Police Officers are going through and have people from the minority communities who feel that there are problems that have to be addressed, fine. Im sure there are. Get people together, but dont do it from the position that you assume the cops are guilty to begin with. That to me is the worst, because when you have mayor de blasio talking about how he has to tell his sons to look out for cops . Well, maybe if he told his son to respect cops, he wouldnt have the same problem. Congressman, theres a lot to talk about with you this morning. We want to get more on our other top story of the morning, and that is that massive cyber attack on sony pictures. Stay with us, congressman peter king. We want to look at the reaction here. North koreas role and what to do moving forward. Fox news Senior Correspondent eric shawn on that angle. Good morning. Good morning, maria, and good morning, everyone. Its called a foreign terrorist attack against america. North korea did not need to launch a missile, detonate a bomb or send a phalanx of goosestepping troops to california. They apparently did it with a click of the mouse. I have a gift for you. Oh oh this dog is killing me this cuteness well, the challenge goes far beyond that of a comedy, but a question of whether a country or corporations and ourselves are properly protected against a devastating cyber attack. The apparent north korean incursion could show how easy it would be for an enemy of america, like the north korean regime, to strike at the very heart of our nation. Targeting our computers that run the energy grid, banking, the very foundations of our everyday existence. Weve been coordinating with the private sector, but a lot more needs to be done. Were not even close to where we need to be. Well, the North Koreans deny they did it and say they want to work with washington, warning, if the u. S. Refuses to accept our proposal for a joint investigation and continues to talk about some kind of response by dragging us into the case, it must remember there will be grave consequences. But others say the u. S. Should respond against north korea by launching a new version of the virus that was used to damage the Iranian Nuclear program. Theyre finding out how to get into you are infrastructure, military, industrial and commercial, civilian sector, each on the private level. So, somehow, the United States needs to stand up, send a clear message to north korea at the same time telling everybody else, you mess with us in the cyber world, were going to mess with you. And there are demands to put north korea back on the state Department List of state sponsors of terrorism. In an interview that aired this morning, the president dialed back the concern, saying the attack in his words was not an act of war but of cyber vandalism. So, he promises what he calls a proportional response, perhaps another way to answer kim jongun would be to do what he seemingly tried to prevent. Lets all watch the movie. Maria . Oh, gosh. Eric, thank you very much. Eric shawn. Now more with congressman peter king. Congressman, the president said that what north korea did was not an act of war but an act of cyber vandalism. Do you agree with that . No. To use a word like vandalism is to trivialize an issue such as this. I mean, this is a dramatic turning point in our relations with the world. I mean, the fact that north korea could carry out a cyber attack such as this, could bring the movie industry to its knees is just an indication of what can be done. And for the president to call this vandalism, again, its just such a trivializing, petty description of what really was an assault on our national liberty, our national sovereignty. So, no, hes got to toughen that up. Let me ask you this, congressman, because i have actually been speaking with a number of sources inside sony and around sony, and they are very upset with the president. They say, basically, they called the white house several times, and they did not get a call back. They said that the fbi was great. They worked with the fbi, and they did a terrific job. But for the president to come out and say, oh, im disappointed that they canceled the movie. They should have called me. When in fact, a number of executives have told me they did reach out and he didnt call them back. Why was there no response from government, when we knew that north korea said if you go to this movie, you will face a 9 11like attack . Doesnt that warrant an answer from government . Yeah. In fact, i dont know what went on between sony and the president. Having said that, it was the obligation of the president of the United States to meet with sony, to have the department of homeland security, fbi, all the resources of the federal government should have been working with sony, made this a major effort. From the moment this threat first emerged, the president as the leader, as the commander in chief, had the obligation to lead our offensive against this. And not sit back and after the fact criticize them. And its not enough to have people under him speaking to people in the industry. This required a major effort by the president , the department of homeland security, fbi, all of our Law Enforcement efforts around the country. For instance, to work with local Law Enforcement to see the level of protection they could provide, to see if there is any threat, and also to immediately be working on what kind of counter offensive we can carry out about north korea. So, listen, i have no great brief for the hollywood people. Having said that, if they were left out there alone and for the president to criticize them afterwards, thats wrong. But apart from that, he should have been out front early and should have been mobilizing all our resources against north korea on this and protecting sony and the industry and protecting the United States. Well, i would think so, particularly with those words that they used that they will be a 9 11like attack i mean, thats pretty aggressive. So, whats the plan now, congressman . Were getting taunted again. The North Koreans are saying if this continues, there will be grave consequences. So, whats the u. S. s plan . Again, i certainly cant speak for the president , but i would say what the president should be doing right now is telling north korea this is not going to be tolerated. But in addition to that, i dont think north korea could have done this without at least the approval of china bp and we have to let china know were not going to tolerate this either. We have some leverage we can use against china. We have some leverage against north korea. At the very least, i think they should be put back on the terrorist list. They are clearly to me, a state sponsor of terrorism. They should be on that list. And we should whatever economic leverage we have as far as cyber, we should attack them cyberwise, but also, i think we have to realize that china has to have an involvement here. And we cant let china just walk away from this and make believe that theyre just innocent bystanders, which theyre not. So, whats chinas involvement, then . I dont see how north korea could have done this without using facilities in china. I dont think north korea itself has the capability within the country of north korea itself. They have to have platforms, other facilities in china that are being used. And also, they really cant carry out very much of this without some tacit approval from china. Chin you could have stopped them. Thank you. Well be watching developments. Thank you very much. Maria, thank you. Congressman peter king joining us. Its been a week of global upheaval, terrorism attacks in australia and pakistan and Cyber Attacks here at home. Former cia officer mike baker is on deck. Follow me on twitte twitter mariabartiromo, sunday futures. Let us know what youd like to hear from mike baker of the cia when we come back. Stay with us. 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I have the worst cold with this runni better take something. Dayquill cold and flu doesnt treat your runny nose. Seriously . Alkaseltzer plus cold and cough fights your worst cold symptoms plus your runny nose. Oh, what a relief it is. Well, this week started terribly and it keeps getting worse. That deadly hostage standoff in sydney, australia, giving way to that horrible terrorism attack at a school in peshawar, pakist pakistan, where some 145 people, mostly children, were killed by the taliban. Mike baker is a former cia covert operations officer. He is now president and cofounder of diligence Global Intelligence and security firm. Mike, great to see you. Thanks so much for joining us. Thank you. Take us back for the week and give mae me your observations. A lone wolf attack in australia, a lot of conversation about whether or not we could see Something Like that in america. How should the u. S. Be responding or preparing for such an event . Well, weve been preparing in essence for years now, and weve talked about, you know, the threat of the individual attack. I think sometimes calling it lone wolf and we always have this same sort of problem every time theres one of these incidents, particularly recently. Every time you talk about a lone wolf incident, it tends to minimize the impact from sort of the 30,000foot level. Look, the muslim extremists, jihadists, they dont care whether the individual carrying out the attack or individuals is a committed extremist, a committed muslim extremist or if theyre just a psychotic who are looking for something to latch on to. In this case, it would be isis rhetoric on the social media or al qaeda efforts to recruit people overseas. As long as they commit that violent act, then from the jihadist perspective, theyve won. So, were getting a little wrapped around the semantics of it all. Look, this was an extremist event, this was inspired by isis and al qaedas successes over certainly the past 12 months. I mean, are they winning, mike . I mean, based on what we know, is isis and the taliban and the bad actors in general getting stronger . Well, theyre Getting Better at trying to promote their cause among the vast what seems to be a bottomless pool of disaffected, unemployed, particularly males around the world, who, again, are looking for something to latch on to. And the success of isis in claiming territory definitely has strengthened that effort and given them sort of a newfound boost in whatever you want to call it, Public Relations and marketing. So, yes, i would have to say they are stronger than they were a couple years ago and it kind of flies in the face of this idea that weve put the whole war of terror to bed. Let me turn your attention to russia and give me your observation there in terms of where we are. Obviously, the russian economy has been crushed. The russian ruble currency down 50 against the dollar. And then, of course, there is the price of oil, which is crushing them. The sanctions seem to be working. Well, yes. I mean, in concert with sort of this happy coincidence of the drop in oil. I mean, thats certainly had the major impact on putin at this point in time. But i think we have to be careful, because in the past, we havent seen sort of the effort to push putin in a corner. We havent seen that result in compliance on his part. Hes an oldschool kgb officer who views the fall of the soviet union as a tragedy. And so, the idea that, somehow, were going to suddenly shift his personality, you know, and do something that i just dont think is in his dna, getting him to cooperate and pull back and play nice on the world stage. I think were going to have to be very careful and watch over particularly the next couple of months to see whether he does something thats counterintuitive from our perspective. All right, well be watching that. I know hes chairing a eurasian meeting this week. So, likely news to come out of that. Mike, great to have you on the show, as always. Thanks so much. Joy. Thank you. Mike baker joining us, a former cia operative. A roller coaster, meanwhile, for the stock market. Dizzying highs, nailbiting lows. How can you make sense of it all as we head into a new year . The former ceo of apple is with us. That and a lot more as we look ahead on sunday morning futures. Welcome back. In a world of low economic growth, where are the best places to invest your money these days . My next guest is the former ceo of apple as well as former president of pepsico and author of moonshot gamechanging strategies to build billiondollar businesses. John skulley is with us. Good to see you. Thank you so much for joining us. Thank you, maria. I want to kick it off with what were going through in terms of hacking and the vulnerability of the internet and our private information. How should we look at what the North Koreans have done and try to protect ourselves . Well, let me talk about it from a technology standpoint, because there really is a game change in technology that is available. The military knows about it, the government knows about it. And what weve had up until now, which are so vulnerability, is that weve focused our technology around the user and around the network. Its like securing the vault and not the cash inside. And so, if you think about the real future is going to be about securing the data. Well, how do you do that . Theres something called bit splitting, and bit splitting is kind of like what fracking has been for the oil and gas industry. It was a game change. Bit splitting means that you take the data and you can split it at the bit level. You disperse it out, so its located in multiple locations. And if somebody tries to intrude on the network, its going to be completely meaningless. And so, bit splitting is a technology that wasnt possible practically until the Cloud Computing became reliable and affordable. And that has happened now. And for the military, the government or health care, natural services, theyre really going to have a parallel network that can be very highly secured. It doesnt solve the problem with, you know, going to the open internet, but its a real potential solution. So, you think were going to see almost like two internets. Were going to have one where weve got personal information on and our own sort of consumerism. Then youve got the other secure internet where the military will use it, who else . Well, think of it this way. Same infrastructure. We dont have to change the hardware at all. Many of the same protocols of how it works. But there are going to be needs for where you have whats called counterparties that are known to each other, which is what you would have with the military or for the government. They need something that wont be broken into the way we saw the North Koreans break into the open internet. The open internet still has huge challenges ahead of it. Its an old technology. It wont change quickly. But the secure datanet, a Company Called Security First has solved this problem and its a fully deployable technology. Security first. And military and government are using this already . The militarys very excited about it. The product is just starting to be deployed, yes. Let me ask you about where you see the growth in an environment where we are seeing sort of slow growth in the overall economy. Youve moved from, you know, running apple to over the last several years investing in a number of technology and health carerelated companies. Where do you see growth . Well, im very excited about the consumer era of health care. Im a consumer marketer. And so, now were seeing that with the patient taking on more responsibility, one of the trivtive effects of obamacare is that it woke people up to how Expensive Health care is, and now with these high deductibles, suddenly, people have to pay out of pocket. So, telehealth is going to be a booming industry, just like atms and Online Banking were 20 years ago and people say i wonder if it will be successful. We all know it was. Same thing is going to happen in telehealth. I agree. I think that youre seeing the marriage of health care and Technology Just be extraordinary. And youre saying the consumerism of it is also quite im an investor in a Company Called md live. Were building not only low acuity care, but higher acuity care for high care patients. Its a booming market for billiondollar companies to emerge in. Fascinating. Let me switch gears and ask you about the new congress. New Congress Taking effect in a couple of weeks. As the former ceo of apple, where you had so much money overseas and you were reluctant to bring it back to the u. S. Because youre getting taxed twice, what would you like to see in terms of tax reform from the new congress. Well, its completely absurd that we have 3 trillion sitting overseas and this administration has made no attempt to even think about tax reform. Well, now were going to have a republicancontrolled congress. And i suspect that Mitch Mcconnell is going to try to get a series of small wins and get some tax reform accomplished over the next two years. And so, it may not be as much as if we had a republican president , but i think it will be a step on the way and well have to see in 2016 if that can be elevated to a really crucial issue, because the future of americas jobs has nothing to do with government creating jobs, as the president said. It has everything to do about prosperity, about entrepreneurs. We need infrastructure. That could be built, if we got the money brought back with tax reform. So, there are a lot of positive things that can be done in the short term, and hopefully, well have a stronger president in 2016. So, you think that if they do do the repatriation part of tax reform, we will see money come back from american companies, bring it back to the u. S. . Well, you know, the money never left the u. S. Its actually sitting in u. S. Banks, but legally, its called offshore. And so, legally, that money can come back. You know, im sure that businesses are willing to pay some tax on that to get it back, and then there can probably be some agreement as to how it can be invested to help the country. So, it could be a huge win for everybody jobs, infrastructure, enterprise, prosperity and growth in the economy. John, great insights from you. Thank you for joining us. John sculley, former ceo of apple. Back to breaking news of the day. 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Recent comments he made on social media reveal that he was influenced by the recent antipolice demonstrations held by protesters across the country. On instagram, brinsley posted im putting wings on pigs today. They take one of ours, lets take two of theirs. Those comments apparently his reaction to the highprofile cases of Michael Brown and eric garner. Officials condemning this brazen attack on our nations values. And ill be back at noon eastern with more news and the doctors will be in. They join us as always for sunday housecall two hours from now. Im eric shawn. Now back to sunday morning futures and maria. Thanks, eric. More now on that headline story eric just reported on. The horrific executionstyle shooting two of nypd officers. We bring in judith miller, ad jukt fellow at the Manhattan Institute for policy research, a pulitzer prizewinning author and journalist and fox news contributor. Ed rollins is former Principal White House adviser to president reagan and longtime strategist, business and little leader and is a fox news political analyst. Mary kissel is a wall street Journal Editorial Board member and host o journal on wsj live. Good to see you, everybody. Really another horrific story and everything that is said is just ratcheting up the rhetoric across the board. Your reaction to congressman kings comments on the nypd story. Well, i agree with congressman king. I think that the nypd is one of the finest Police Departments in the nation. I have covered their counterterrorism activities. They have thwarted 17 terror attacks on this country. But more than that, they have brought crimes, blackonblack, Violent Crime down to record levels. And the fact that these two officers, a hispanic american and a chineseamerican, which represent the 50 , over 50 of the nypd, which is minority in this country this is not an allwhite police force that this should happen indicates the extent to which our rhetoric has gotten way out of control. Yeah, he specifically called out al sharpton, ed. And basically, he said we need to stop elevating this kind of rhetoric that divides us. I grew up in the era of Martin Luther king. Martin luther king, obviously, didnt have a good ending. He was an extraordinary leader and he talked about nonviolence, and obviously, it cost his life at the end of the day. But if he would have said, burn, baby, burn, america would have burned down. He didnt. Al sharpton is a racist. Al sharpton is a man who is detrimental to the system in this country. His ally with the mayor is basically destroying the morale in this Police Department, one of the greatest Police Departments in the country, and i will tell you that when you allow what happened last week on the bridge, when a College Professor and a labor union and several others take the two Police Officers, the lieutenants who were up there to offer Legal Assistance to those who are basically, and the College Professor had two hammers and a ski mask in his bag. He wasnt building a bridge. He was there to do damage. And my sense is we have to have a judicial system knock this back and a peaceful protest in america, but you cant have violence. Mary kissel, your thoughts. I think there is a fine line between civilization and barbarism and the police stand in between it. You have to call out the mayor of new york city, bill de blasio. Lets think of what hes done over the last several months. He ran on an anticop platform. Hes come out and said that he taught his child to be afraid of the police. He had a chief of staff who was living with an excon who killed a cop. Hes elevated al sharpton to effectively be Deputy Police commissioner. Hes questioned the constitutionality of stop, question and frisk, and what has been the results of that . You have a real lack of trust now between the police force in city hall. You have a rise in shootings, a rise in violence. And you know, hes also said, effectively, im going to roll back broken windows policing. He said, marijuana legalization, well, thats fine. Were not going to legalize it, but were not going to prosecute you for that. So, whats the signal that youre sending to criminals in new york city . Its effectively game on. And unfortunately, i think if he doesnt stand behind the cops, were going to see more violence like we saw yesterday. Yeah, and thats unfortunate, because thats what were seeing. Everything he says, the way he says it is basically firing up that, you know, rhetoric against the cops. And whos going to suffer . It will be the minority communities in the bronx, in the outer boroughs of brooklyn and, eventual eventually, all of new york city, when the tourists stop coming here and stop spending their money here. The quality of life in the city has been turned around in the last 20 years, not by the leadership of mayors, but by the leadership of our Police Department. We have had good mayors who have supported the police in giuliani and, obviously, bloomberg. And my sense today, ive never seen anything like the police turning their back on the mayor yesterday. In a very short period of time. They are ashamed of the man who leads them, and thats a great, great liability here. And how does that play out, though . I mean, its a great liability. What do you think that leads to . I think this mayor had better, basically, make peace with this police force. If hes going to represent us and be the leader of this town, they basically are the thin line that keeps us safe. He had the, basically, pat lynch, the head of of the union accused de blasio, the mayor, of having blood on his hands. That was very, very strong, and i will say, former mayor giuliani walked away from that and said this is not the time. I noticed that mayor de blasio was very quiet this morning when bratton took the lead, our police chief, and said this is absolutely unacceptable, as did the president , by the way. There was an unequivocal condemnation, finally. No talk about social injustice, but there is a social injustice problem, not here in new york, but in other Police Departments. And thats what should be addressed. And the race problem should be addressed, but not its not an nypd problem. Right, i think the other Counter Point i want to make, Police Across this country have a terrible, terrible job. I dont want it, you dont want it. Thats right. And our friends dont want it. Many of these communities are small communities. We had three innocent people, or maybe they werent innocent, but the deaths were accidental, and weve now created this chaos all over this country again today. Those people didnt intend to kill the guy in ferguson, they didnt intend to kill the guy in Staten Island. Certainly, the Police Officer that killed the guy in the Public Housing didnt intend on doing that. But the idea that were now calling cops racist and pigs and antiblack and all the rest of it is outrageous. Outrageous. I think we all agree on that. And effectively, if you dont come out and say we respect the criminal Justice System, what youre saying is, were going to bow to mob rule in this country. Its going to be the return of mob rule. The mayor, the president , every leader in this country needs to come out and say the cops are doing their job. We have to trust in our Justice System to deliver justice. Which is why im happy that you mentioned the fact that the unions turned their back on de blasio, because they want change as well. That was an important moment. All right, lets stay right here, guys. We have a lot to talk about with you, but lets check on whats coming up at the top of the hour on media buzz. Howie kurtz is standing by. Good morning. We have a full agenda. Well cover the complete cavein on sony and calling this a blow on freedom of expression and now sony in a war of words with the president , who also criticized the company for backing down in the face of threats by hackers aligned with north korea, but also, what is the medias role in this . And should we be reporting what is essentially stolen property . All these gossipy emails uncovered by the hackers. A lot of angles on this important story. All right, we will be there. We will get our panels view on that story as well. The president ends one of the last remnants of the cold war, sets the wheels in motion to lift the cuban embargo on the streets of havana. Theres cheering on the streets of Little Havana in the United States. There are protests. Our panel on what it all means ahead on sunday morning futures. Sony and cuba, next. Welcome back. Taking a look now at the president s decision to normalize relations with cuba, our panel is back on that. Judy miller, ed rollins, mary kissel. Your thoughts on the president in regards to cuba . Well, i think the president is trying to show that he is not a lame duck and he is going for a legacy. And he totally took everyone by surprise, after 18 months of negotiations involving the most discrete pope on the planet and also canada. But look, there is a divide in the Republican Party now and also even within conservative ranks about whether or not isolating a country, continuing to isolate will bring down this regime or pouring in market money will bring down the castros, finally, finally. And were going to see. Now well get a chance to see. The rest of the world that has already been there in cuba. You know, at the end of the day, this is a very serious decision to be made. And my issue is why dont we have a National Discussion . Why dont we bring the congress in . The country just elected a republican congress. Theyre the ones to have to lift the sanction. Why dont we sit down and discuss it, instead of the president arbitrarily saying heck with you, im going to do whatever i want to do. This is one of the boxes ive checked off. This is a very serious issue. And for americans in florida who came from cuba, having been persecuted there or what have you. And a disagree, its not a division in the Republican Party. Rand pauls on one side, the chambers on one side paul ryan. At the end of the day, the people who are going to run for president are going to be, with the exception of paul, are going to be antithis. This should have been a national debate. Well, i agree. Once again, we see this unilateral move by the president to just do things without consulting congress. Whether you believe that cuba is a business and an Economic Activity or opportunity or not. And cuba gave up nothing. They gave up absolutely nothing. They get all the benefits and a bunch of new jersey casino owners and Atlantic City are going to move to cuba. My sense is they gave up nothing, nothing to basically like china gave up with the recent deal there. Mary, what are your thoughts . Its just the latest in a legacy of appeasement to take judys words, cuba gave up nothing. Raul castro came out and said we won and pledged his fidelity to communism. Look, im all for opening up trade with cuba, but you do that in exchange for something else. Cuba has shown no indication that theyre changing their behavior. Theyre cozy with venezuela, iran and russia. They gave russia a beach head on their island. Theyre brutalizing their own citizens. So, you know, what is the president getting in return for this . Right when cubas economy, by the way, is on its knees, he gives a lifeline to the castros. So, is this once again an indication that this president is just looking for some evidence or glory that hes doing something in the face of, you know, so many other issues he just refuses to talk about with congress, the new congress coming in . Its deliberate, and i think hes going to discover. And the sad part about a lame duck is he thinks its the old congress. Its not the old congress. Its the new congress, and they have a right to be involved in these discussions and decisions. We have a joint government. As the president doesnt get to lead the country by himself. The congress is very much involved and thats the way our forefathers why do we believe this is going to be any different when the new Congress Starts in a couple weeks . Because theyll cut off his money and be very loud and very clear, and well have another voice, a consistent voice and not the inconsistent good point. Thanks for making it. Some, like some of the other things that hes done, in this instance, he does have the authority. As the chief executive to normalize relations. Now, whether or not Congress Wants to fund it, thats a separate issue, but not to lift sanctions. No, not to lift sanctions. Its not like the other if this president believes in the power of his own personality, that by his words and actions and who he is, that somehow, these dictatorial regimes are going to change their behavior. Weve seen it in the talks with iran, we saw it in the deal we did with syria, weve seen it in how hes treated the chinese, even as they actively work against our interests in the region, and now hes doing it again with cuba. Why should we expect different results . At the same time theyre pushing sanctions on the russians, sanctions on the iranians and having some impact on it. Were basically saying, well, dont worry about it, well lift sanctions. And in the middle of all of the euphoria, the president s euphoria around cuba, the sony hacking story got worse, and the North Koreans ratcheted up their aggression. Were going to be back with our panel on sony as we look ahead on sunday morning futures. Hi, i just signed up for your Credit Report site and i have a problem. I need to speak with your fraud resolution department. Ugh, we dont have that. What should i tell him . Just make that super annoying modem noise. shuuuuuuuh. Zzzzzzzz. De ee. Dong. Shuuuhh. hello . 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Just as putin is getting away with it, just as enemies of america are getting away with it. There should have been a much stronger response from the president of the United States to the threat to create another 9 11. Through hacking. By the way, its not just this president. Richard clark has been complaining about cyber terrorism, terrorism against the United States from iran, from russia, from china, for and years. And nothing has happened. The president hasnt done anything, a succession of president s hasnt done anything and neither has the congress. Im talking about the president this time, this terrorist, right now about north korea. It is extraordinary to me that north korea can send a message to sony saying anybody goes to this movie, you will face a 9 11like attack and we did not hear a word from the administration. Does that surprise you, as well . First of all, i think sony was terribly embarrassed by the emails that were out there. Not sanl Major Corporation in america besides the movie industry would play dead if the koreans or anybody else threatened them with the Cyber Attacks or what have you. And i think to a certain extent, every school bully in america that takes away from kids wins until we stand up to these guys. I would told that sony called the president. They said the fbi was great to work with, but they called the president to get some advice on what to do when they first got that threat and he didnt call them back. Its just amazing to me that we finally got a comment from him on this yesterday. Yeah. Well, the sony ceo came out yesterday and said nobody was going to distribute the movie. Digitally, they have the same problem. I have sympathy for that. But if that is indeed the case, then why doesnt this president who believes so much in the power of the government to do good buy the rights to sony and broadcast this movie on the white house lawn. Lets send a message. Lets put north korea back on the list of terrorism. Theyre willing to fold in a heartbeat as they did to the North Koreans, and secondly, the idea that you would come back here and meet al sharpton who devoted the first part of the show to kiss his ring or get his apology is just once again empowering a guy who basically is a racist and a detriment to this country. That was extraordinary, that that was the meeting that he had to have. So in terms of north korea, grave consequences. Do you think we see any response to the administration on this . Well, i think you will see them back on the terrorist list, which george bush removed them in 2008. There are other things that can be done. Asia, which was under sanctions and that was listed, too. But in terms of cyber, i dont think theres a lot. At least thats what the cyber experts i spoke to are saying because they are so they themselves have so little exposure at home. Actually, john skully had a good point on that. 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On the buzz meter this sunday, sony utterly caves by deep sixing a movie after threats from the hackers backed by north korea and try toes shift the blame over this major blow to free speech. We have not caved. We have not given in. We have persevered and we have not backed down. Except that is not quite true. But are the media enabling the attackers by running with those gossipy internal emails . Jeb bush drawing fire from many 2349 conservative media as well as those on the left as he slides his way into the president ial campaign. A lot of conservatives, a big part of the Republican Base dont like his position on common core, dont like his position on immigration. Its n