Concern. Harris also the main author of the g. O. P. Is memo, intel chairman devin nunes is sticking by his partys claim that the government abused its surveillance powers during the 2016 campaign. Due to part of the reason why we know that we are right is because the roman was the tax on me, trey gowdy, and what did i y for ten days . They said that our memo came to all sorts of conclusions. It didnt come to any conclusions, our memo just look at the facts and their memo people will see, they actually come to conclusions. They have personal attacks on myself and trey gowdy. Harris john roberts tors is not from the lawn. Good afternoon. His ten play just long versus from the republican memo that was released last friday. The nsc National Security council, the White House Counsels Office will be reviewing it. And its also been given to the department of justice. It wasnt the white house that did that. My understanding is that it was the minority in the House Permanent Select Committee on intelligence can send it over to the doj for review and is interesting that we have not heard the same concerns from the doj and fbi about the democratic memo that we heard about the republican memo last week. Sarah sanders, the press secretarys statement this morning saying the white house has received a memorandum for the minority members of the house select Permanent Committee on intelligence, stated many times theyve administration will follow the same process and procedure with this memorandum from the minority as it did last week when it received a memorandum from the majority. As you play just a second ago, adam schiff who was the raking member on the Intelligence Committee says his big concern was that they would be political right actions are made to this memo, but sources who have read this memo tell fox news there are several references to sources and methods that would likely need or potentially be caused for the president to not have the memos release. This was done tactically to force the white house into making changes were objecting to its release. There is material in the memo that would be subject to reduction forcing the president to order changes are setting up a contrast at the very least the g. O. P. Memo. The white house made no reductions so that memo. Yesterday outside cincinnati, the president took a moment talking about tax reform to reference the republican memo, not specifically citing it, but pretty clear what he was talking about here. Lets listen. We caught them in the act. They are very embarrassed. They never thought they were going to get caught. We caught them. We caught them, so much fun. Great sleuths. One of the things is going on here is that john kelly, chief of staff staff is up on capitol hill and has been most of the day to try to cut a deal on daca to get a continuing resolution to keep the government running after the deadline on thursday. John kelly said in relation to the 11 of the president was not likely to extend that march 5th deadline which increases the pressure to get a deal but also stands in sharp contrast with what the president said on cnbc when he was in davos when he said will get it solved if we need a little more time, we will take a little more time. I want to get the Problem Solved correctly. So the president has had a change of heart or john kelly is just playing hardball with negotiations. Harris john roberts, thank you very much. Here now, republic and congressman John Ratcliffe who was a former u. S. Attorney and member of the house judiciary committee. He is also one of the few people to have reviewed the application that the fbi submitted to the fisa court to obtain a warrant and do surveillance on that former informal Trump Campaign official carter page who is at the center of all of this. So thats a long introduction but i want everyone to know what a key player you are in all of whats happening now. My first question for you, when the president has these five business days, what is the process compared to what it went through for the g. O. P. Memo and do you think that the outcome will be similar . John good to be with you. The process should be exactly the same. I would hope that the minority memo close to the same fbi and department of justice review for sources and methods. I reviewed the democratic memo, is ten pages long, and im of the opinion that this is sources and methods, considerable sources and methods that need to be heavily redacted or edited and i would hope that that would take place before its declassified and made public but at the end of the day, i am for in every republican was for the disclosure of the democratic memo just like the republicans so the American People can make up their mind about these issues themselves. Harris so when you hear democrats say those changes or read actions will be made along political lines and not so much about sources and methods, what you say . John i can only tell you that ive looked at it and when the democratic memo talks about intelligence assets that are well placed and give details to which i can figure out where that person works or where theyre located in certain country, i think that country can figure it out as well. So those are the things that need to be edited out, thats what we talked about we talk about sources and methods. When judge napolitano was on with his, he said there was a short phrase in the g. O. P. Memo, longtime fbi assets as we are talking about a person in that memo. Is there a danger that is putting all this out in the publics life, that it changes the relationship that house until committee has with the fisa court . John i think there is always good to have a tension between the branches when it comes to these issues. We are exercising that i think its good for the people that we are not always working together but working to the extent that we are trying to highlight potential abuses and bring those into public view so that there is accountability. Harris i want to boil this down to the take away for the american public, and that is will these memos be so different that there will be a judgment that has to happen on the facts . I would say the facts are not fungible, they are simply what they are. So are you an agreement on what the facts are . John at the memo, the ten page, was declassified, i will tell you what it does not say. It is not say those fisa court that the Clinton Campaign paid for the dossier that was used to gain a warrant against a trump associate. That was the most important fact before the fisa court. But they were a legitimate legal basis to obtain a warrant on an american citizen in the democratic memo takes a tortured process he figured it out and how certain terms could have been interpreted. And more importantly, i have reviewed the underlying documents and those presented to the court dont say that either. Harris thats interesting. So youre one of the few lawmakers that we know of that have been able to see what the rest of us cant see. Why we come to the conclusions that you did. What can you share that is important for us to know . John just like trey gowdy, former federal prosecutor like myself and making submissions to courts, i can just tell you that without getting into the details of the information, they were representations that were made to the fisa court and fisa judge that i would be willing to sign off on. There were jumps in logic that were made, sources werent corroborated, and so i think that some of the representations that were made i would not have been comfortable when someone with pfizer experience making those representations to a judge. Harris as i understand it, and this would be very troublin troubling. The rebuttal part of it trying to defend the fact that the fisa court was not told that the specific Political Party was paying for an antitrump dossie dossier. John the democratic memo was trying to defend a lot of things. Is trying to defend folks like bruce ohr and peter strzok, folks whose actions have been rightly called into question here and now in plain view of the American People. When you read the democratic memo, they, they canonize those individuals and they do everything to say that their efforts are to preserve the fbi and the department of justice. Im more proud of my association with the department of justice and my associated with congress as an institution. What we are trying to do in this process is to restore peoples faith and trust in those institutions so they dont suffer the same kind of public Approval Rating that congress has. The one before i let you go because youre talking about the Justice Department there, the democratic memo also without the request of the doj has been given this memo. The doj stepped in that with a warning letter to the house until committee and republican members hold off until we seen it. Why the difference in the process they are . Or am i wrong about that . John if there is a difference, there shouldnt be. The process should be exactly the same. Remember the democrats said that everything in the republican memo threaten the integrity of the department of justice and putting sources and methods out there and when it came out, they said theres nothing to it. I think the hypocrisy is pretty clear with respect to the argument that the Minority Party is making because they want to become the majority party. Harris congressman ratcliffe, we appreciate your time. Theres a lot going on right now with all of this and a potential shutdown deadline as well. So thank you very much for stepping up and talking with us this hour. John you bet, thanks, harris. Spool of spring in hugo griffin, editorial when you say there is something that you probably arent focused on right now because of the politics, what are they . I think theres a lot of misdirection going on by the democrats. It makes me laugh when i hear congressman adam schiff suggest that the white house might redact things for political reasons. It should be remembered that the democrats including congressman schiff wanted to redact the entire nunes memo only a week ago. They wanted to make sure that that never came up. So this is an enormous amount of misdirection with the democrats basically raising possibilities or seeming to raise what seem to be possibilities about republicans stepping in to cover up facts. Where is its the democrats who have been trying to suppress information. As a lot of misdirection going on to try to put republicans in a bad position and convince the voters in advance of the midterms that the republicans have got something to hide. Harris i was going back through all of my notes from breaking news over the past ten days or so, im kind of a geek, so i hang onto them like tax documents. So i was looking back and i never saw any point where was like a cliffhanger at the white house might not release the democratic memo that the house and tell members not vote on it. Where did it come from . There trying to turn a foregone conclusion into a cliffhanger to make it seem like they dont really want their memo to come out. The truth is that both the g. O. P. And the president made a pretty expo so that they are going to come out with the memo, going to follow the same procedure that they did for the republican memo, that it was going to come up. One of the things that i noticed in looking at these things is the democrats keep talking about attacks on institutions like the Fbi Department of justice, talked about respect and it is to be a relationship, respect between the president and the fbi. Respect is a twoway street. If the fbi did not reveal things that were really important to the fisa court, conceal the fact that part of their application was based on Opposition Research from a Political Party. That goes to respect for the law to come if youre duping judges. It isnt necessarily the person thats criticizing the fbi that is creating the crisis, could be the fbi itself is creating the crisis by not respecting the rule of law. Harris i hadnt heard it put that way. Before i let you go, the department of justice, the fbi will have seen this memo in this five day Business Review period rated the president will look at this. You say there never can really get in via constitutional crisis in all this. Why do you say that . In the technical sense, they cannot. The constitution and invest all authority and to that end to the extent that they have an executive authority is authority delegated to them by the president. Some of the technical sense, the president can give away some of his authority or delegate and he can take it back and there is constitutional issue. Whether does become a constitutional issue or at least a deep and important issue is where there is that lack of respect, both sides say there needs to be a relationship of respect. The democrats are trying to suggest that somehow its the president is undermining that, but thats the dispute. The republicans say look at what the fbi was doing . That is where respect is undermined. Harris potentially, people can take a look at both accounts and they can see the facts for themselves. I love breaking stuff down with you. Thank you very much, appreciate your time. Budget showdown take five . Since last october. House republicans are pushing another shortterm plan to keep the government funded past this thursday. Democrats say it does not stand a chance of the senate. Can they get this done . And the President Trumps attorneys are advising him not to sit down for an interview with a special Counsel Office in the russia investigation. But hes already said hes eager to talk. Which of that decision be . Stay close. Are you going to talk to mueller . Im looking forward to it actually. Theres been no collusion whatsoever. Theres been no obstruction whatsoever. And im looking forward to it. Only invisalign® clear aligners are made with smarttrack® material to precisely move your teeth to your best smile. See how invisalign® treatment can shape your smile up to 50 faster today at invisalign. Com guys,but youve got sto be strong. St remember janet . She got cash back shopping with ebates and hasnt been skeptical since. Whered the money come from . Stores pay ebates. Psh psh then ebates pays you. Psh psh psh psh psh psh psh psh psh and theyll send you a check. Psh oohh sign up for free. Shop your favorite stores. Get cash back. Ebates. Something to believe in. Join today for a 10 bonus. Harris they are talking government shut down now. Fox news alert, the House Rules Committee is meeting right at this moment and lawmakers are preparing to vote later today on another shortterm funding bill to avoid a Government Shutdown. They dont have very much time. Since funding runs out thursday, last night House Republicans released a proposal to keep the lights on for march 23rd. It also includes a full year of defense funding. Senate minority leader Chuck Schumer says hes working on a bill with Senate Republicans but says the House Republican plan stands no chance in the senate. Theres no way we will reach an agreement that can pass the senate. And it would jeopardize the positive discussions going on right now about the budget, disaster aid, immigration aid, immigration, and more. Harris House Freedom caucus chairman is willing to fight democrats on it. Its going to be up to democrats to consider you whether they want to keep the military people. Harris lets talk. Now with her publican congresswoman Marsha Blackburn of tennessee. I democratic congressman Henry Cuellar of texas. They are sanded together and this is what we need more of right there in congress. So the House Rules Committee talking about this. Theyre going to vote tonight. Are we going to see the government shut down . Congresswoman blackburn, take it away. We will pass our bill in the house tonight. We will send it to the senate. I think they will pass it tomorrow. The government will stay open and we will continue to operate. Harris i hear the same thing from your Something Different . The republicans were wrong to shut down the government in 2013. The democrats were wrong this year to shut down the government because we can pick different issues and be very passionate about but she never uses issues a shut down the government. We shouldve done that that back on september 30th so we should have started the fiscal year in october 1st. Harris was a conversation about dreamers at this point because everybody was perched as Chuck Schumer looked across the political aisle and drew that line that has to be about the dreamers and daca peered a week at a thursday, where is that conversation . First of all, i support the dreamers but as i said a few minutes ago, i voted not to shut down the government over the dreamers because again, republicans didnt on health care in 2013, democrats used dreamers. Next year, might be Animal Rights or Something Like that. We just cant keep using those issues to shut it down. Will work on the immigration issue, but again, weve got to keep the lights open. Harris i want to talk with you a little bit about the process because the military spending in the military budget were a huge Sticking Point this last go around has a government shut down for couple of days. Now we see the extension. What else is in this that you feel strongly about . Youre correct. The military funding is correct. You also have the funding for the Community Health centers in this bill and that is a twoyear clean extension of that funding. That is vital for rural america. Something i worked on its legislation i authored that would remove the therapy caps for our medicare enrollees. There were some good policy winds that are embodied in this and the Health Care Sector that have come out of legislation much of it bipartisan that weve had that energy and commerce committee. We do hope that the senate will do right by the military and give them their funding. It is important because the military needs to enter into contracts that are vital for the readiness and Skills Development and skills retention of our members of the military. It is also vital for the pay raises and the salaries and the money that every single month close to our military families, they deserve our best efforts. So it is important that we pass this in the house, that we send it to the senate, that they pass it, and the issue of immigration, there is a march 5th deadline. Well work on it between now and march 5th. Harris congressman, will democrats support this in the house and senate . A sit on defense appropriations along with homeland appropriations and we have 12 appropriation bills. We dont have one and again, if we are going to finish the appropriations, my feeling as we should do all 12 appropriations bills, not pick one which i support to defend. I represent military he was a bit again, there are 12 appropriation bills and not one. Harris you didnt answer my question. As is the continuing resolution going to pass in the house or the senate in your opinion . You just heard congresswoman blackburn, she thinks it could. What do you say . I think the house will pass a cr with the military funding and a couple of other issues that are important. I think the senate is going to take out the defense, paying it back to the house and i think youll get democrats and republicans coming up to support it. Hopefully well get some caps. Harris can you do it before thursday . The president has said we are not interested in kicking the can down the road on daca. I want to hear from you, just a quick last word about what the fight for legislation dealing with dreamers looks like going forward. We want to see Strong Border security. I live on the border. I just dont go visit the border once in a while. I know better. We want to see Strong Border security and address the dreamers, some sort of legalization process that can get them they are to be protected where they are not kicked out. Then again, i dont believe in amnesty. That was in 1986 by democrats and republicans. We have to find a way to address this but without amnesty. The one thats interesting. That was a shot at somebody who visits the border once in a while. It couldnt have been president obama because my book shows he didnt do that. The president says polling shows nearly 7 out of 10 americans supported an Immigration Reform package that includes daca. We will continue the conversation as it happens on capitol hill. Congresswoman blackburn and congressman cuellar, thank you very much for your time. A bipartisan look on outnumbered over time as we like to do it. We continue wandering the dow after a turbulent couple of days on wall street wall street. Gerri willis will give us a live update on all the latest details out of the commercial break. But wait, a new report that President Trumps attorneys have advised him not to sit down for an interview with robert millers team as part of his russia investigation. Should the president comply . Judge Andrew Napolitano is back from outnumbered to do an exercise in the green room. And i dont share it with mom right, mom . Righttt. Safe driving bonus checks. Only from allstate. Switching to allstate is worth it. We know that when youre tspending time with thelass grandkids. Music tech . Every minute counts. And you dont have time for a cracked windshield. Thats why at safelite, well show you exactly when well be there. With a replacement you can trust. 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Range in the market. After yesterdays incredible bulk hundred point selloff, the watchword today is volatile from a high point to its lowest level. The dow industrial average is 900 points and as i said, that is the largest intraday swing, august 24th, 2015. Over the last few days, no sector has been exempt from selling, even a topperforming tech sector where investors took profits from some of the sectors biggest names like apple. The biggest question is as a selling over and nobody can answer that definitively. Strong Economic Growth, the atlanta fed is now forecasting 5. 4 Economic Growth for the first quarter. Theres tax reform, a strong one at the backs of companies and have to say we were out here in front of the holding and talking to folks about talks and we met all kinds of people, people from europe, people who work in the industry, the financial industry people who have 401 k s, people were relentlessly upbeat but they told me they believe that this is the kind of selloff that renews the market. I was shocked. I thought people would be no nervous. But theyre really not. Harris or something else, people feel they have a job and i can make you awfully rosalie to have that purpose in your life when youve been working for a long time and thats what we are creating in the market. Gerri willis, thank you very much. Harris the president s attorneys have advised him to reject the request for a possible sit down with special counsel robert mueller. They reportedly worried the president could get caught in a socalled perjury trap. Fox news already reported the president s lawyers were leaning against a potential interview but President Trump has previously said hes eager to talk. Are you going to talk to mueller . Im looking forward to it actually. Theres been no collusion whatsoever. Theres been no obstruction whatsoever. And im looking forward to it. Harris is a story continues to cook along fox news sr. Judicial analyst judge Andrew Napolitano is back from outnumbered, and ive been quoting him this hour. Ive talked to congressman ratcliff about some of whats been going on here read the president now come evincing for a long time should not sit down with him, why do you say that . Judge napolitano the president cant know as much about the case as bob mueller. Each one of which has been reviewed in the relevant portions pointed out to him. So bob mueller and his other interrogators, wont just be one person asking the question have so much more information about the transition about what happened during the transition about the campaign, about the president s financial dealings before he was even a candidate after president , then president jim could have. It only takes a couple of slipups for them to say to his lawyers, we caught your client in a lie. Do you want us to present this to a grand jury and see if they indict him . That would be catastrophic for the president. Dont give them that opportunity. If they have gaps in their case that they want to feel and by asking you questions, dont help them prosecute you. Harris i didnt get to go here with you on outnumbered so i want to be here as we have more time. As the president gets to a point where he says we are not sitting down through his attorneys, mueller can subpoena him. What does that look like based on history . Is that a good idea or no . Judge napolitano the subpoena comes from a grand jury and it is 23 anonymous citizens. Actually two grand juries. The two grand juries have been sitting for months. These are the grand jury said indicted Paul Manafort and rick yates. Is it the grand jury to which bob mueller and his team have been preventing evidence on almost a daily basis. He would be horrible for the president politically, not legally. If he is subpoenaed before the grand jury because he declined to speak to mueller. If subpoena, he would have to go. He may resist but a judge would order him to go. Harris is at a better environment for the president to go in rather than bob mueller because you dont know what he has . Would it be better to wait and to let him put his evidence toward the grand jury, have that subpoena come forth and the president sits down . Politics are one thing but if we learn the truth and theres no evidence to any collusion or cooperation, we move on. Judge napolitano i dont think bob mueller would put the president in front of a grand jury and less mueller and his team believe that the president , the president s words would help them prosecute the president. The president doesnt always use an economy of words. In a grand jury, he would not have a lawyer there to consult. He wouldnt know what questions are coming beforehand. On the other hand, they wouldnt have the benefit of a pregrand jury interview. Harris what is the negotiation look like this . I would wonder, couldnt the president s attorney say will give you two hours, one hour. They wouldnt get a lot of questions. Harris heres a danger with the negotiations it has to do with the president s economy or lack of economy of words. Lets say we agree to a three hour interview on just three topics. If the president s answer veers off into another topic, not one of the three, then under the rules, its asking about that topic. Harris is at length in the three hour period . Judge napolitano that would depend upon what their negotiations are. Harris if you set a clock on this and answer questions, theyve seen this over the years. You could filibuster somebody with an answer or you just keep it on topic. Judge napolitano remember, you and i are having a normal conversation the end youre my client you lie to me, theres no problem. But if im a federal prosecutor and you like to me even though you think youre telling the truth, ask martha stewart, theres a problem. Thats the problem of the president faces, a misstatement could be allied to a federal official in an investigation and thats a felony. Harris judge Andrew Napolitano breaking it down grade thank you very much. House until chairman devin nunes is now saying that there is a clear evidence of Hillary Clinton and the democrats are the ones who colluded with russia during the 2016 campaign. We will get reaction from our bipartisan power panel. Stay close. We have a clear link to russia. 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I want to get some opening remarks from you. Unfortunately, devin nunes is a guy who was largely lost any credibility he once had. This is a person at a step down from the rush investigation when he was found wandering around the white house grounds heading out classified information now on his latest adventure, he written up a memo without ever looking at the underlying documents and outcome out that hes mischaracterized the information in it. I take no joy in this because hes got an important job and he is not only abdicating his abdicating his responsibly but attacking our Law Enforcement community. Harris one thing i asked congressman ratcliffe at the top of the hour and hes had a chance to look at the evidentiary support they are talking about, he doesnt by any problems with the nunes memo in terms of the coronation of information and supporting evidence. I think care is than anything else, lets have both of them come out. At this point, every single for public and has voted to release the democratic memo. No democrats voted to release the republican memo. Harris why is that . Because there were things of this memo allegedly that have something to do with something sensitive that no one alleges we should see. The bottom line is everything so far thats come out in the republican memo has shed light on this thing. In sunshine, we should let the democrats get their side out and let the chips fall where they may. Harris is interesting because youre talking about evidence that no one has seen except for a few lawmakers, one of whom i talked with the sour and the supporting evidence for the memo, when it comes to something that democrats have seen, im really curious about it. Why wouldnt they vote to get a memo out so that everything could be seen . What about that sunlight . Lets be clear, republicans didnt vote to release the democratic memo initially. Theyre voting to release it no now. Harris but no democrats voted for that transparency on the republican side. Are public its in the beaufort on the democratic side until now. Previously they voted against it when adam schiff wanted to release the memo. The problem was the same thing that Donald Trumps own fbi director was pinning this misleading narrative among some of which congressman nunez had already cocked you. Harris i havent heard democrats and havent seen the ten pages that they were going to put out really called out specifically some of the things that were in that republican memo. Because facts are inconvenient things in the bottom line is, the democrats should have their chance at this. The question is the democrats are trying to put President Trump in a position where if there were things in the memo that are redacted, they say look what happened. If nothing redacted from a republican memo, the democratic memo has been somewhat redacted. The bottom line of all of this is this is really simple. Somebody went and got this information from another campaign, spied on an american, and the fbi is left holding the bag here. And for quick, they should be. Not the rank and file, not the people every single day but the leadership is largely politically appointed and they were the ones that are responsible for this. Harris thats what nunes and other people are saying. Why wasnt there a counterintelligence look at what was going on with the hillary Clinton Campaign acquiring that dossier. Because he didnt just get the information. Somehow, they colluded with someone to obtain the information. The russians shared that with someone. Turns out we know who it is now. Harris stay right here, the president is stepping up his battle with democrats ahead of the 2018 midterms and predicting big wins for republicans. Will that be the case or should the white house be concerned . Power panel comes back. Stay where you are. We want to do great in 18, and we are going to do really well in 20. 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Plus, we are live on the floor at the Stock Exchange following mr. Toads wild ride, a. K. A. The markets and we are watching than Missile Launch bared all that and more on the daily briefing. Harris the white house says it was a joke. But democrats are not taking it that way. In ohio yesterday, the president said democrats refusal to applaud during parts of the state of union speech show that they dont care about the country. They were like death. An unamerican. Unamerican. Somebody said treasonous. I guess, why not . Can make all that treason . Why not . Harris the president also went Democratic Leaders and predict a big wins for republicans in the midterms and in 2020. I think this is not a good day for nancy pelosi. Shes our secret weapon. I just hope they dont change her. Shes gone so far left and schumer has gone so far left. I look forward to running against them. We got to do well in 18 and i know we are going to do great in 20. Harris the white house later said the president s remarks were tongueincheek. We are back with our power pane panel. I saw you smiling along there. The pelosi comments, do they work . Nancy pelosi is sort of the best secret weapon that Everybody Knows about. Shes been the poster child for everything bad about democrats for a long time. Nancy pelosi represents yesterday. This is a party that is usually about tomorrow. Agree with them or not, she is sitting there like a wax figure with the rest of the democrats the other night. Two things, russians and resistance. They better find some collusion here. So far nothing. I think democrats have a message and theyre standing up not just against this administration, but their standing in favor of promoting the welfare of everybody in america. We dont believe that your words are your dignity should be measured by your background or your bank account. I think thats the message that democrats have taken to a fault. The only thing i would say is this and this works both ways. Whether republican stands up and says you lie to a president or a group of democrats sit there on their hands the president says lets fight this surge of opioids and celebrate our economy, thats bad box office. Pick a lets be clear, than something that republicans were doing during eight years of barack obama. It wasnt just one time, it was every state of the union when when republicans sat on their hands. I think this disapproving of your government actions and disagreeing with them in a very clear way is one of the most american things you can do. You got to have something, being against everything is one strategy. You guys have accused my party of that which is understandable. You got to be for something. One thing you have to give trump, hes for something and hes changed washington. Hes against an awful lot. Harris can i talk about the economy for one second . You guys are kind of going back and forth and i think thats wonderful. I want to interject here with the economy because it is really where democrats fell down on their messaging. I know its going to get tougher because people are opening up their paychecks that are starting to feel the power of job creation and tax cuts. So what is your answer back . Paul ryan was bragging about getting a dollar 50 a week while her company is getting billions of dollars in tax breaks. Harris im not going to argue about paul ryans tweets, but seriously, americans are feeling this. When you look at the job creations, the president was just in ohio yesterday and you got 200,000 jobs in manufacturing. That is great but if you have policies that are going to keep that going. The problem is, this administration 1. 5 trillion whole the deficit in order to give some 1,000 bonuses for 2 of the workforce. Harris before i come to you on that, i was reading that potentially there may be a g. O. P. Asked for earlier deficit ceiling raise because of the tax cuts. Thats interesting to see. We were in point right now. Harris more than interesting, these are deficit marks to your party. Heres the thing. Heres the yogi berra. Who are you going to believe . Them on your own eyes. When you see more money there is more than what you just talk about with paul ryan, americans are seeing a stronger economy, better gdp and real growth of the economy. Makes you feel good. Thats what theyre going to need in the midterm. Harris great to see you both, thank you. Outnumbered overtime continues. Stay close. Harris breaking news inside the cabinet room at the white house. The president will be hosting a round table discussion with Law Enforcement officials and local Community Leaders on the threat of the gang ms13. This is just starting. Lets watch this live together. Very talented group of people. Thank you very much. We need talent for what were doing, believe me. Were here to discuss the tremendous threat of ms13, one of the most violent and vicious gangs anywhere in the world. We really have never seen anything quite like this. The level of violence. Im honored to be joined by the dhs secretary. Top officials in federal Law Enforcement and our local sheriffs, our great, great sheriffs. Were also joined by congressman peter king. Peter, thank you. Congressman lee zeldon. Lee, good to have you. Youve been working hard on this, you two, thank you. Martha mcsally. Good. I hear youre doing well out there. Congress woman barbara comstock. Barbara. Thank you, barbara. Nice to have you. And congressman michael mccall, whos really an expert on this subject and has been for a long period of time. Its a tough subject. Ms13 recruits through our broken immigration system, violating our borders. It just comes right through whenever they want to come through, they come through. Its much tougher now since weve been there. But we need much better border mechanisms and much better border security. We need the wall. Gonna get the wall. If we dont have the wall, were never gonna solve this problem. I have gone to the top people, many who are at this table right now, including this group. Without the wall, its not gonna work. During my state of the union i called on congress to close the immigration loophole that have allowed this deadly gang to break so easily into our country. My administration has identified three priorities. Weve identified three priorities for creating a safe, modern and lawful immigration system, securing the border, ending chain migration and canceling the terrible visa lottery. Weve been discussing it. Were talking about it in congress. Were talking about daca and how we can work that out. I think the democrats dont want to make a deal, but well find out. As Congress ConsidersImmigration Reform, it is essential that we listen to the Law Enforcement professionals in this room today. So im gonna turn it over to secretary nielsen. Well begin a discussion. You folks might want to stay for a little haoeul. Mr. President , thank you for hosting this round table today on ms13. As you know, its the first gang dangerous enough to be classified as an an transnational organization. We are here to hear from a variety of folks who work every day to comebat this. Id like to say its my privilege to be here, the men and women who make it their job every day to fight this and other violence coming across our borders. Also to be joined by congress who have shown great leadership. We thank you for that. In your recently announced frame work, you asked congress to close the loophole that youve just talked about. When we talk about ms13, we have two, three main loopho