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Having me harris weve been cooking up a bunch of news. Guy is very thoughtful of you. Harris shall be conservative with you guy you are very kind and wonderful hosts. Harris thank you. In an interview last night with our sean hannity, rogers dont double down on his criticism of the Mueller Investigation alleging that mueller has a nefarious motive in targeting him. While declaring his innocence. I think it was meant to silence me. Not only an effort to silence me, because i support donald trump and i have been a critic of the Mueller Investigation. I think donald trump is making America Great again. He is my friend of 40 years. I have a great affection for him and his family. I am not going to testify against him, because i possess no negative information. There is no rush and collusion. This is a witch hunt. Harris at the white house yesterday, again, distanced itself from the stone indictment. The more that this goes on, the more and more we see that none of these things have anything to do with the president. In roger stones case, the charges of that indictment have literally nothing to do with the president and have to do with his communications with congres congress. In fact, the further we get into the process, the more and more we see that this has nothing to do with President Trump. Harris the democrats say that the stone indictment shows a disturbing pattern in the Trump Campaign. Watch. What it is all about is not just if they are lying, but what they are lying about. And what they are lying about is colluding with the russians. You can see that with stone, and wikileaks. You see that with cohen and the moscow tower. Harris so, capri, robert ray who was special counsel, and took over for Kenneth Starr with the clinton investigation told me on set yesterday that what its all about is if they find there is no there there we need to move on. In this could be rubbing a brother shortly. And you say . Capri its time for us to get back to work. Lets hope thats the case. To speak to what ron just said, i think this is where a lot of democrats are coming from. For every indictment and i want to see clearly, im not somebody jumping up and down like many democrats. I think the process needs to take its course. But what ron wyden is saying, essentially, is that with each one of these indictments its showing some sort of a pattern because its all generally about lying under oath. The question is, where they lying under oath . Is there something they are specifically covering up . But to take it one step further, its because theyre covering up collusion we dont know that. Harris katie, why they are lying and also who is lying . Also, could the be the investigation of the weights being handled . All of these are process crimes, not that they are not serious. Katie they are process crimes. The interesting thing to be is the way people have been indicted for lying to congress. What that means is that congressional investigators, lawmakers, referred them to the special counsel or at least help them, and said this is the testimony we have. Its not consistent maybe with Robert Mueller was stating. You will make this mistake all the time, that going and testifying in front of congress would have consequences if you dont tell the truth. We have seen, in these cases, that they are going after perjury. Going after not being consistent with the testimony, which is very rare and very hard to prove. This isnt just Robert Mueller going after these people for process crimes that arent about the campaign or collusion with the russians, as ron wyden alleged without evidence, i would say. There is a combination here of congressional investigators handing over information to the Mueller Probe that have not ended up in the favor of these campaign associates. If you so, guy, when you look at what they say about process crimes they come out of investigation and might never have been on the surface if it has not been for that investigation. What he say about that . Guy first of all, i get a kick out of stone saying, i think this is about silencing me. If mueller is trying to silence robert stone, he is feeling miserable impurities on tv 24 7, it seems like. When you look at the litany of excuses from roger stone about his lying and we could talk about whether its a process crime or proof somehow, or an indication of underlying nefarious behavior he is saying come on lying to congress, he misremembered small details that were inconsequential. Harris his attorney said it might have been because of the stress of the campaign, too. Im just throwing that out there. Guy we can think about that, assess that statement on his part. What is less easily explained as the witness tampering. Thats not a momentary lapse in judgment. Harris there is a thread with that, Paul Manafort, too. Capri Paul Manafort and stone were partners for a number of years, as well. Guy they might be trying to save themselves as opposed to covering up some conspiracy of which there is no evidence. But the what was me, i forgot a small detail, its a witch hunt. If you are calling up and texting witnesses turn to influence their testimony, its clear cut crime. Melissa im tired of everybodys talking points on both side. I think of a buddy on the couch probably feels that way. Trying to drill down whats really going on here, whats illegal . If roger stone encouraged the russians to distribute emails or wikileaks, if you want to assume they are one and the same some people assume that, i dont know. He encourages them to distribute emails, thats not illegal. If the campaign asked a foreign entity to distribute emails, that would be illegal. Thats obviously what they are trying to get at, here. Through roger stone, even though he wasnt part of the campaign i want to know the answer to that question. I want to say, did you ask wikileaks to do this . That the president asked . But then im struck by the idea that the democrats paid russians to create the dossier. So now we are back to harris thats why you have to look at both sides. You cant just look at what republicans do. Melissa thats asking a foreign entity to do something to help in the campaign. That seems like the crime they are trying to circle on the right operate if its a crime commits a crime on both sides. Katie is a massive double standard between the way Trump Associates and people who didnt work on the Trump Campaign officially as roger stone did getting caught up in this Mueller Investigation. You keep hearing this argument, that its a pattern of behavior. Sure, you can say there is a pattern of behavior of people who work in the Trump Campaign but still not, but if there had been the same judgment of the Clinton Campaign there would be a long pattern of behavior bd behavior of colluding with the ukrainians to go after donald trump. Paying for the dossier. There is double standard and how they come up with this pattern of behavior, who is doing what. Harris capri is agreeing with this. By the way, it was black male for stone and kelly prayed thats what youre talking about. I want to jump to the next point. Dont care about whether or not this had anything to do with President Trump . They can adjudicate all these cases. The witness tampering is a thread that we have seen among some of these accused people. So that is a serious crime. Some of the others are serious, too. That may or may not have anything to do with collusion or anything they are looking at the president four. Is it enough to say as manafort back and 2016 to the netflix film crew rogers relationship with truck has been so interconnected that it was hard to define what is rr and what is donald. 2016. Mother has nothing to do with whether or not thats some of the talking points on the left. Capri but you could say the same thing about michael cohen. And now he is being distanced harris who was surreptitiously recording at least one of his clients that we know about. Capri a violation of attornment attorneyclient privilege. Thats what they are trained to do, theyre trying to figure out we will not know until this comes out, if it ever comes out in a transparent manner, which i will probably talk about later. But we wont know. Its also vacation. What they are trying to do, it seems, is to figure out that thread. To identify President Trump as the director of all of this. Melissa that would be legit. He cannot, the president cannot or any part of his campaign to do something on behalf of them, to release this wikileaks to help them. They cant do that, it would be illegal. My question is just, we know the democrats did that. So. Thats why i dont get it. Im not a lawyer, under string to understand. Guy andy mccarthy, our collie, was a lawyer. A prosecutor. He has talked extensively and written about how there are very specific and earlydefined climes that they are supposedly looking into in muellers office. That includes a criminal conspiracy to work with the russians to hack, for example, Hillary Clintons emails or the dnc emails. Or john podestas. I think there is a separate category of concerns about political collusion. They may not technically be a crime, but it would be if it is proven, that the highest reach of the Trump Campaign did coordinate the release of these emails or Something Like that wikileaks i. E. , the russians i think it would be a very serious thing. It would be a serious problem for trump. But we are nowhere near that point right now. But it seems like a lot of the media is covering this as if we are already there. Katie and they have been for a long time. Guy yeah. Harris there is no shortage of jumping the shark, which it is what you are saying. Former Vice President joe biden says he does not want to run a fools errand as he comes closer to deciding whether he wants to campaign for president in 2020. New polling shows that he may have a very good reason to throw his hat in the ring. We will take a look. And, it could be radical over house of Americas Health care system as we know it. Senator Kamala Harris full embrace of a very liberal idea. Whether it is out of step with what most americans want. Speak of the idea is that everys access to medical care. You dont have to go through the process of going through an Insurance Company. Lets eliminate all of that. Lets move on. 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Amazon prime video so when you say words like. Show me best of prime video into this. Youll see awesome stuff like this. Discover prime originals like the emmywinning the marvelous mrs. Maisel. Tom clancys jack ryan. And the man in the high castle. All in the same place as your live tv. Its all included with your amazon prime membership. Thats how xfinity makes tv. Simple. Easy. Awesome. For people who mike out there who like their insurance, they dont get to keep it . The idea is that everybody gets access to medical care. You have to go through the process of going through written insurance committee, getting approval, going through the paperwork, all the delay that may require. Who of us has not had a situation where you got to wait for approval and the doctor says, i dont know if your Insurance Company is going to cover this . Lets eliminate all that. Lets move on. Melissa democratic 2020 2020 contender Kamala Harris fully embracing single pair Health Care Insurance at a town hall, saying shes willing to to eliminate private insurance as we know it to make it happen. Harris became the First Senate Democrat to support Bernie Sanders medicare for all bill. The program is implemented would carry a very hefty price tag fo. All of you out there, a Study Released over the summer by George Mason University estimate it would cost more than 3 trillion per year. Thats about three fourths of this years entire proposed federal budget. Do the math. Sanders and his supporters claimed the short term costs would eventually be offset by a more efficient system. We have we heard that before . House Democratic Caucus chair, kind of talking about it when he asks if he supports harris proposal. I think its too early to comment. One, on proposals being floated by any president ial candidate. Certainly senator harris is somebody you have Great Respect for and she set a phenomenal rule out over the last week. Democrats are united behind the principal that we should Lower Health Care costs for the American People. Protecting people with preexisting conditions, and begin a conversation with a focus on lowering the high cost of lifesaving prescription drugs. Melissa capri, i wish what she was saying were true. I wish we could just blow off the process of approving things through insurance. I cant believe we are going through this again. Lets start with the cost. When she talks about what she is talking about would cost 3 trillion. When obamacare came out on the president said it would go down by 1,250 per year, per family, i said, thats not true. The other cant do math or is not telling the truth. I was attacked for that at the time. Guess what . Premiums cannot go down. The math didnt work. 3 trillion a year if you confiscate the wealth of every billionaire in this country and you throw them in jail, if you tax everyone completely, you cant come up with 3 trillion. Isnt it cruel to dangle this in front of people as if its possible . Capri this wont be the first nor will it be the last time that politicians or those trying to be elected put something out there that sounds great on paper, sounds great in a 30second ad, but isnt necessarily possible old plausible when it comes implementation. I have spent the better part of my adult life and health policy. Im a licensed social worker, i trained in hospital systems, free clinics, and i authored the prior authorization reform law for health care in the state of ohio. I think we would all agree that people shouldnt have to go through the red tape. Everybody should have access to health care services. But this is lala land. We would have to dismantle a system where the private sector is pervasive. Not just an employerbased Health Insurance, but in medicaid where we have managed to care in most states. And in medicare where Medicare Advantage also exists. That is a managed care system. We cant just blew the system u up. Melissa it wouldnt work. Even if you blew up the system and you took away insurance companies, you still cant give every human being every health care possible every treatment possible, right when they needed, unless the doctors are going to work for free for the hospitals are going to give away stuff for free. Or somebodys going to be doing it for free. Harris would you want it for free . Katie then there is no doctors. Guy the government will ration care. They will be longer wait times. We seen this in canada in the u. K. Harris not really free. Time is everything. Guy the federal government spent 4 trillion last year 2018. We ran an 800 billion deficit almost. So we are already in trouble paying for what we are already spending. You add 75 or 80 of that budget, the only way you can come close to paying for that is by taxing not just the rich, not just millionaires and billionaires, massive im not exaggerating huge tax increases on working people, middleclass americans. I went to the get in exchange for that . More than 150 Million People get their Current Health care plan and situation uprooted completely. They have what they have right now. Remember, if you like it you can keep it . 150 Million People would lose their Current Situation and go to a governmentrun plan. They think the government will have some sort of efficient red tapefree scenario . Spew what i want to ask katie a question about where you just work fairness to the American People. Hardworking American People who may not have the time to sit down and crunched the numbers. But what they do is they hear the rhetoric over, well, could it be for me and it bidding on the planet . And we know that it cant be. Even our Little Planet of america. Katie health care is a big topic. He comes in number one in polling for what people are concerned about. It is not necessarily because they want to singlepayer system, its because their premiums have increased. One of the most dishonest things that people like Kamala Harris and Bernie Sanders essay about this is that everybody has a right to Access Health care. Access to Health Insurance especially governmentrun. Single pair is a nice way of saying Government Run Health Care or bureaucratic health care. Obamacare has proved this. Having Health Insurance doesnt give you access to any kind of medical care. You talked about the rationing. Doctors have been retiring early. And oh three do you personally have decided not to go to medical school because of obamacare. You can magnify that significantly when it comes to the government deciding to take care of health care. The bureaucracy yes, there are problems in the Health System now. Absolutely. But if you think is going to get better by the government taking it over, i do think it will be no red tape and paper work as Kamala Harris is talking about, ive got a boat to sell you. A bridge to sell you. Harris meanwhile, former President Joe Biden is making his presence felt in the liberal bastion of broward county, florida. During an event last night billed as an evening with Vice President joe biden, he told the Fort Lauderdale audience is closing in on deciding on a 2020 president ial run. But he take a methodical approach, saying, the answer is im running the traps on this. I dont want to make this a fools errand. I am a lot closer than i was before christmas and will make a decision soon. A New Washington post abc news poll shows that biden and senator Kamala Harris are neck and neck but still in single digits, with biden holding a slight lead. When voters are asked whom they would choose, if the democratic primaries were held today, 43 say they are undecided with no name by the way, i will add to the copy little bit popping out of the single digits. Some of those people have almost supreme recognizability. A lot. Joe biden has coupled with a little likability or more. How does that play a role in all this . B6 i think biden and the team around him understands, because he was the Vice President of the United States for years, Many Americans know who he is. When you give people an offering of a bunch of names, they might say, i know that guy. Its years away, lets say him in a poll. Jeb bush was the republican nominee at this point. Harris high name recognition. Guy you could just throw these numbers out as a pure predictor. But biden has a lot going for him this time. The argument hes going to make and i talked to a democrat who thinks hes going to announce in the next two or three weeks, leaning towards yes. The case he can make the democratic voters desperate to win this election and be President Trump is i can hold to give the people who voted for hillary, and i could peel off a few of the people who voted for trump. Some of the democrats feel harris can he get to burning people . That was a growing guy hillary got a number of them, but guy but the bernie lane is split amongst millions of people. Hes going to be singularly on his own in this lane unless somebody like Sherrod Brown runs from ohio. He was younger than joe biden and offers the same kind of thing. Harris lets take a look at this polling from abc. Donald trump wins the republican nomination, 28 would vote for the current president. 14 would consider it. 56 wont vote for trump. What do you make of it . Melissa 56 of republicans in that pole . Harris no. Melissa that makes a lot more sense. I just dont see any way that trump doesnt get his same people back together, and everyone who voted the last time around. Harris is not enough . Melissa no matter what. It does end up being enough like it was last time. It feels like we are going in that direction. We are too far out to know at this point in time, but its that problem on the left of splitting off the folks in all different directions. If you feel like you are not represented, you are a disaffected and the pole. Harris what about the argument the democrats always come together in the end . The difference here is that President Trump isnt really necessarily going to run against anyone of them. Hes going to run with what he has now. Katie he will run on his record. While democrats so far, as weve seen like Kamala Harris, Kirsten Gillibrand are running on identity politics, he sang, you can call everyone deplorable, racist, and say this country is falling to apart at the seams when it comes to our social fabric but ive been getting things done for real people, real hispanic and black on employment, and doing things people can actually say. So if you want to talk about it all day long, here are our results. Harris moving on. Hecklers attacking Howard Schultz prayed he wants to run as an independent, he is flowing footing that. Democrats saying it will harm their chances of retaking the white house. We will talk more about that coming up. And bipartisan talks set to begin tomorrow on Border Security. Can lawmakers reach a deal that involves a wall . Mark and Center Public and still support the president if theres another shutdown . Stay with us. You have to give and take. I told the president that. Ive told it to senator mcconnell, he understands that. Willie, by the 15th, be able to bridge those differences . I whooped for a year to try and avoid where we are today. Eel like your day never started. Get going with carnation breakfast essentials®. It has protein, plus 21 vitamins and Minerals Including calcium and vitamin d, to help your family be their best. Carnation breakfast essentials®. You might or joints. 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We agree on the fact that there is a problem, and we should do something about it. So lets spend some time over the next three weeks, lets get it done. The president has opened the government on the basis that democrats have signaled to us that theyre willing to actually get serious about a real deal and get serious about fixing the problem of the border, including funding for a border wall. Melissa but republican senator john kennedy says the new deal must prioritize Border Security. Watch this. It depends on the compromise is. If its very little wall, and almost all amnesty, im not going to support it. There may be a time, may be, at some point in the future, to talk about substantial amnesty. But we have had six amnesties since 1986. Every time, they tell us, if you just do one more, we will secure the border. Theres been a 30year bipartisan refusal by both Big Government republicans and ritzcarlton democrats to refuse to secure the border. Melissa democratic be possible as the debate drags on. Watch. Well, i think there is a growing sentiment on both sides democrats and republicans that weve got to get beyond this mess. If so many other things to do, including a new round of appropriations for next year after we finish what we were supposed to do for this year. Many of us are champing at the bit to get to work. Thats why we are sent here. To be caught up in this problem, a 352 Government Shutdown over the president s campaign promise, i think people are losing their patients on both sides of the aisle. Melissa in the meantime, politico reports that Senate Republicans are signaling no appetite for another shutdown with some even considering vetoproof legislation. Katie . Im afraid to get hopeful. [laughter] i have heard so many people in the past 24 hours say that if you look at the panel and you look at the names of the people that have gotten together, that it feels like it might be a group that can do some horse trading and get something done. I could cry with happiness, but i feel like katie they may the gang of 17. Nine placita 17. We will just have to see the people running the show here are not necessarily the person running the show has been nancy pelosi. Well have to look at the house and see them on the far left, as most who have gotten the attention and the cycle. But those who are in swing districts, there is new polling showing that these moderate democrats, these democrats that are freshman and we heard about this during the shutdown their constituents have been pressuring them to get some kind of deal. If it comes together with something in the senate, and they can negotiate in the house. But nancy pelosi is the one whos going to make the decision whether shes going to continue to say shes not interested in a wall or barrier despite republicans, democrats, and the house and senate voted for this type of security in the past. Im not hopeful that its not going to get bogged down. Melissa come on katie the bigger conversations about amnesty, when you have to turn off the spigot of flow. You look at the numbers, we are paying 5 billion for beds to house people who are coming here. There is 4. 5 billion in the new proposal that the white house put out for an additional 52,000 beds for people who havent even come here yet. That is on anticipation. You cannot continue to have this problem without actually solving it, because its never going capri can i be an optimist really quickly on this . I think the fact that we do have a Conference Committee is a stark contrast to what we have seen previously. Theres no question that both americans and congress do not have an appetite for it continued shutdown. Harris no doubt. Capri what i think it is and ive seen this happen and other legislative proceedings when you have Something Like a Conference Committee and they are also bringing in experts from border patrol, lawenforcement, et cetera, its an opportunity to basically say, you can hide behind it, we saw what the experts wanted. We want to do the experts wante wanted. Take the politics out of it. Katie they have kind of already done that, though. Harris im going through the list of nine democrats in a republicans right now, and i just caught this on the house side the conferees, the democrats, all have a very undersea because they are from california. David price, barbara lee, Andrew Cuellar well, hes texas prepete hegseth are california. One, two, three, four of the five on the outside. I find that fascinating. That would have a structure. Kevin mccarthy, the House Majority leader, is saying, if they are beginning to discuss barriers, thats a positive. All shapes and forms. Read back to that positivism you said. The guy i think the base politics on all sides incentivize a noddeal. I will be the pessimist on the couch. James clyburn said if you use ago, what if we gave trumpet 5. 7 billion, the whole amount, for a smart wall . Then steny hoyer, the number two in the house, said that barriers are part of the solution. Take the 5. 7 billion, appropriated, use half of it for barriers. Harris or whatever the experts tell you. Guy the democrats say they are in favor of barriers. Displayed in strategic areas and call it a day. Which of the democrats out of it . They get Border Security. They keep telling us therefore Border Security. That should be the means unto the end, and the end among itself. Give them the money and have harris what office are you running for . Nothing, believe him. I would lose every election. 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Katie acting attorney general Matthew Whitaker taking questions yesterday from reporters for the First Time Since President Trump appointed him. Making a statement about the timeline of the Mueller Probe. Listen. Im comfortable that the decisions that were made are going to be reviewed, either through the various means we have but right now the investigation is close to be completed. I hope that we can get the report from director mueller as soon as we as possible. Katie made some news this morning. Democratic senator Richard Blumenthal reacting to his comments. No responsible official of the department of justice would make those kinds of contents about an investigation coming to a conclusion. In the near future. If Matthew Whitaker was briefed about the investigation, its the last time he should be briefed. Because his comments were totally irresponsible and reprehensible. Katie meantime, blumenthal and republican senator Chuck Grassley have introduced a special counsel transparency bill that would ensure the Mueller Report is released to congress and the public. Heres organ senator ron wyden. If there is an effort to derail the Mueller Report from getting in the hands of the American People, i will go to the floor of the United States senate and make sure that i have done Everything Possible to get the truth to the public. I have noticed even in the last day or so a number of my colleagues are saying the same thing. Katie albright, guy. We have an actual timeline on the Mueller Probe from an official at the department of justice. For the first time. The speculation is over, right . Guy sort of. [laughter] there was some edge and, if you listen carefully. Katie he was trying to stop himself and it kept going. Guy he hedged. He was aspirational. I hope this will happen. Soon he will get to see it. I think this idea that the congress or the public wont see the results, that the crazy fear. Its going to happen. Everyone is going to insist that it happens. I will say and ive said this for months i am not in the game of guessing when mueller is going to wrap up. Thereve been predictions now for a year. That hes almost done. Whitaker might know a little bit more than most people, so i pay a bit more attention when he says that, but, again Robert Mueller will conclude when that man decides that he is over with this process. And we are not there yet. Katie melissa, democrats on capitol hill are furious that he let this socalled timeline slip. They are very upset about that. Why is that . Melissa i mean, i guess they wanted to drag on as long as you can come because if theres a cloud over the president said it casts doubt . But i think if you really believe that there is something behind it which they say they do that you would want it out and in the hands of the public as soon as possible. As we just heard. I think it seems like everybody on every side really wants it out in the hands of the public. If it really seems to believe that their side is going to come out and love with the findings are. Again, im with you. I just all of the sudden i feel like everyone is a liar when someone stands up and says, someone is going to stop this from getting in the hands of the public capri there are two separate issues. The one issue i think blumenthal is referring to is the fact that the acting attorney general basically showed his hand and said that this is whats currently going on with an active investigation. Which is usually not the way the department of justice operates. They usually do not comment in a shape or form in regards to either the content or where its at in the process, when it comes to an active investigation. I think that issue there i agree with you guys, that everybody wants this thing out there. It needs to happen, he needs to be transparent. I dont know anybody thats going to oppose that. Katie harris, the question is if whitaker is correct in saying that he hopes its going to be over based on the assumption that he knows its going be over soon harris i think is correct in saying that he hopes. I think he believes what he sang. My question is, who is the audience for this . This is not proof. Katie he was answering a reported question. Harris and hes hoping, hes the interim guy over the investigation. William barr, confirmation that senator Lindsey Graham hopes to bring to the senate floor very f and when that happens, he will be the person to make these determinations. Matthew whitaker was the guy the democrats were screaming against already that they didnt like it. Hes the interim guy. He got some sort of a briefing, a report. He hopes, so on and so forth. We just want the information on the transparency. We just want to see what the facts are. What is the conclusion of the report . And if its his estimation, is not alone. Others have said it could be close. Then you look at the legal extensions that they filed just a couple months ago. It could be longer. I dont think we really know. Katie be down to. Harris who is the audience for that . Does it matter . Until the actual age he speaks . I dont know. Katie based on how polling shows the Mueller Probe right now, i think the market people are ready for it to be over. We dont know when thatll happen. Moving on, that didnt take long. The backlash to Howard Schultz after the longtime democrat and billionaire says he is wearing a a White House Run as an independent. Why the echoing he just got may only be the beginning. Dont run against trump you egotistical billionaire [bleep] go back to twitter go back to the other billionaire elite who think they know how to run the world and if you feel, like i feel baby then come on, oh come on lets get it on applebees. Now thats eatin good in the neighborhood. Of every great meal is always the potato . T bite thats why it should always be an idaho potato. Only genuine idaho potatoes have the perfect taste and texture to get your meal started right. And our shirts from custom ink help bring us together. We order custom ink to welcome new employees, personalize team shirts, and even for company events. The design lab is so easy to use. We just upload out logo and if we have any questions, Customer Service is there to help. Seeing our Team Together in custom ink gear is an amazing reminder of how far weve come as a business. [narrator] custom ink has hundreds of products to help you look and feel like a team. Upload your logo or start your design today at customink. Com melissa more outnumbered in just a moment, but first lets check in with harris on whats coming up on outnumbered overtime in a few minutes. Harris we are talking about health care, a congress man who is also a doctor. Republican mark green of tennessee will journey. We are talking about president ial candidate Kamala Harris packing medicare for all and singlepayer health care, and to end private insurance as we know it. I will talk about whether those ideas are realistic with congressman and dr. Green. And who pays for it all, anyway . Will voters go through it . Plus, windchill could hit 60 below zero is a polar vortex grips the midwest. More than 60 of the country will be below freezing. A live report from chicago on the dangerously bone chilling weather. Top of the hour, on overtime. Dont help the electron, you egotistical billionaire leap go back to getting ratios on twitter go back to davos with the other billionaire elites who think they know how to run the world thats not what democracy needs melissa former starbucks ceo Howard Schultz heckled medicine to a book event in new york on monday, the day after announcing that he is awaiting a White House Run as an independent. On the same day fellow billionaire, michael bloomberg, who is considering running a 2020 as a democrat, warned schultz that he would split the vote and end up giving the president the second term. There has been a chorus of democratic criticism of schultz. Nate lerner, who is behind the push of the beto orourke 2020 bid, tweeting, i will not only boycott the run for independent, but stand outside every day protesting. His ego and selfishness is disgraceful. And hes not alone in his starbucks boycott. Guy i cant think of a bigger waste of time than standing outside a random starbucks to protest a political decision of the guy who used to run the company. Thats betos brainchild . Thats somewhat worrying. The one thing i found intriguing about this schultz thing is, you know who is one of his top consultants in this potential . Bill burton, who was a major part of obama world. A number of obama alums are working on behalf of mr. Schultz, who came out today, by the way, swinging at Kamala Harris and singlepayer health care over the debt issue. Which speaks to me, as a conservative. I think hes an intriguing character. Im not necessarily convinced he will be a major factor a year plus from now. He may be. But i think the absolute meltdown on the left has been, i think, pretty revealing about how terrified they are of more competition in this race. And more choices for voters who may not feel like either party represents them. Melissa katie, i think its funny. It starts if you like every billionaire thinks he can run the country. Katie well, i mean. Its america. You can do anything you want. Name ideas going to be a problem for him. John kasich is having a problem with name idea and hes been in politics forever. Melissa but hes got the big starbucks logo by decide katie two guys point, if it interesting to see how the wrecked on mike his to this. Telling the truth about what Government Run Health Care will cost, physical response abilities and thing. When it comes to whether you are a republican, democrat, or dependent, you want to do what you can do to help you make your life better, which is allowing you to keep more money to pay check or building a Better Health care system. How does it impact you . About comes on political there is a hard political fight, not just or somebody who is saying, im an independent, lets be civil theres room for more civility, but im not sure where. Melissa is there a fear of too many people splitting it up . In the end, you have one candidate. If Howard Schultz gets on the ballot capri he will have to get in the ballot in all 50 states. If they have open or closed primaries, for example. Democrats will always be scarred from gore bush 2000. What happened with ralph nader. There is a part of the party harris ross perot. [laughter] capri that give bill clinton the white house with less than 50 of the vote. Im packing my bags, going to davos, and checking into the ritzcarlton. Melissa i love it, sounds fantastic. On that note, maury outnumbered in just a moment with all that usaa offers why go with anybody else . We know their rates are good, we know that theyre always going to take care of us. It was an instant savings and i should have changed a long time ago. Were the tenneys and were usaa members for life. Call usaa to start saving on insurance today. Melissa think you to guide benson. Any thoughts for us . Are you running for president . Guy never. That would be nice, but also never. Im zero for two on those thing things. Katie the American Dream is alive. Melissa think you two capri, as well. Katie, melissa. We will be back at noon eastern tomorrow. For now, heres harris. Harris a lot to get to this hour. Let start with the former associate of President Trump facing charges in court. This is outnumbered overtime, im harris faulkner. Roger stone pleaded not guilty in the d. C. Federal court and seven counts not long ago, including charges that he lied to lawmakers engaged in witness tampering as well. And that he was possibly chording with russia through drunken pain. David . A, harris. Good afternoon. Quite a scene outside the District Court in washington. Throngs of people shouting at roger stone. To this present one, he pleaded not guilty. He said many times in many Different Networks you would do that. To the surprise of many people,

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