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Bit, im feeling fine now. Happy to have you back. The looking good. Oh, thank you. Youre outnumbered. I am. Thank you very much. Good to be here. President trumps legal team taking on tougher tone to deal with special counsel robert mueller, his new attorney Rudy Giuliani explaining why he doesnt want the president to sit down for an interview with robert mueller. Because they are trying to trap, you couldnt put a lawyer on the show who wants to keep his law license to tell you to testify. They dont have a case on collusion or obstruction, they are asking all kind of questions about what do you feel and think. I will walk him into prosecution for perjury . Giuliani was asked if he believes the president could be forced to testify before a grand jury, watch what he said. We dont have to, hes the president of the United States. We can assert the same privilege as other president s have. Are you confident the president will not take the fifth in this case . How could i be confident of that . Short time ago our own judge andrew weighed in on the legal argument, watch. I dont blame him for making that argumenta, thats his job to make it, hes been making it extensively over the weekend, but history shows that president s, when subpoenaed by grand jurys, one way or another, do comply. Charlie hunt, what say you . Charlie you know, this Rudy Giuliani thing, i keep referring as the shock in all legal strategy. You have no idea what, i mean, he is all over the place, but the bottom line is, you know, he is right about one thing, he needs to prevent the president from testifying. If he walks in and sits down under oath with mueller and his team, it absolutely will be perjury trap and im sure the president would be delighted to go and talk to them and because the president always fraud case against Paul Manafort, judge ellis telling mueller, you dont care about mr. Manaforts bank fraud, but what information mr. Manafort can give you that would reflect on mr. Trump or lead to prosecution or impeachment or whatever, that is what you are really interested in. Here is reaction to former from a former federal attorney joe digenova, part of the president s legal team at one time and Rudy Giuliani. Watch. I do, i believe that after judge ellis remarks last night, there is no question that the amount of Government Misconduct is accumulating. It is greater than anybody realizes. This investigation reached level of bad faith, no longer a good faith investigation. All right, so is this no longer good faith investigation and was that federal judge right to call manaforts team out not manafort, muellers team out, rather . Charlie i from the beginning dont believe this was goodfaith investigation. Clearly it wasnt when we started to see the charges coming out. Not all charges against Paul Manafort have nothing to do with donald trump or his actions with the campaign. It has to do with things from the past that okay, im in favor of prosecuting somebody for anything, breaking laws. So, you know, you didnt need a political investigation, Special Prosecutor in order to go after these things, these things should have been gone after a long time ago by regular White Collar Crime prosecutors. Best lin from t. S. Ellis iii, he said, he is asking for more evidence from the memo, right . The actual memo. He went back to d. O. J. Saying i need evidence from the mueller team. They are saying, we have it. He said, let me be the judge of that. He may end up being a big player in this entire thing. What hes saying, what evidence look at Rod Rosenstein, hes the guy who laid out the case for firing james comey and the one that appoints special counsel to give mueller Broad Authority to look at things like obstruction of justice, for instance. Again, he laid out the case to fire james comey. Look at the fact we know that James Clapper wanted comey to sit down and brief President Trump about the dossier and that meeting is leaked to the press, right . We know james comey himself was one that said the was looking for a news hook to publish the dossier. Nobody could verify the dossier, including own intelligence, as well, could not verify the dossier. Then the run with the dossier and from there on it has been rampant in the media about russia collusion. How can you look at some of these things and not be concerned objectively regardless what your position on the president is, that should be deeply concerning. Like a Movie Trailer for what is going on. But it is true. Where is Rod Rosenstein . Do we know enough about the parameters of this investigation . No, we dont. I mean, i think that is why judge ellis wants to see the memo, and understand the scope of the investigation. And it is the political critics of the president are actually waiting in the wings, hoping the manafort investigation can yield impeachment, what happens when it doesnt . Right. No accountability for the wasted taxpayer money and all of this time and all of the damage that it has done to potentially the office by becoming that shiny object that the media likes so much like to focus on. Then the political fallout from going after Paul Manafort, he wasnt a good guy. He wasnt a good guy. He may be compromised, but is it worse this obsession, this constant obsession that really does he broke the law, separately, as they are doing with Michael Cohen and others, separately go after him. Why keep one case and not the other . That is a very fair question. Yeah, where is Rod Rosenstein, charlie, in this he he kroeted this memo that led to the investigation. Charlie last week he went aggressively and said they will not be extorted, basically accusing his bosses, in the white house and congress of trying to extort the department of justice, which i think is a crime, but i think Extortion In General Charlie exactly. Amazing thing to think about. To your point, charlie, it doesnt exactly boost confidence in the d. O. J. Or the f. B. I. Charlie no. That is severely lack nothing contentuous confirmation. I watch your show 8 p. M. Eastern and i sometimes will hear you say about, you know, where this investigation is. Why do you think it is that we are at a point now where people arent necessarily waiting or looking at the evidence, but waiting to be told . Is it because there has been so much focus on this . Apparently, yes, so problematic and out of hand and so allconsuming and i hope everyone steps back and asks themselves, is this the function of an investigative counsel . Is this what we put so much faith and money and time, endless time and money into special counsel . Charlie the clock is ticking, we get closer to midterm, mueller is about to pull a comey and wind up being in the middle of an election doing this i dont know which part, leak or which part of comey . Charlie having a huge major highprofile investigation in the middle of an election. You dont want that. Trying to get people to flip flop and it will not happen. President trump throwing full support behind his pick to head the c. I. A. Talking about that ahead of her Confirmation Hearing that is happening wednesday. The white house says gina haspel is victim to bring down one of the president s nominees. Plus, President Trump accusing former Secretary Of State john kerry of potentially breaking the law, after reports mr. Kerry was meeting secretly with the iranians in an effort to save that iran nuke deal. Former secretary kerry responding. John kerry. [booing] President Trump not the best negotiator weve ever seen. Never walked away from the table, except to be in that bicycle race. This program is brought to you by lear capital. The signal reaches down here, too. So sophie, i have an xfi password, and its daditude. Simple. Easy. Awesome. Xfinity. The future of awesome. Harris we are back with the Fox News Alert, 48 hours ahead of critical Confirmation Hearing, President Trump has come out swing og behalf of his pick to head the c. I. A. , gina haspel. The president tweeting this, my highly respected nominee gina haspel has come under fire because she was too tough on terrorists. Think of that in these dangerous times. We have the most qualified person, a woman, who democrats want out because shes too tough on terror. Win gina. This comes after reports mrs. Haspel considered withdrawing on friday. Short time ago, white house source weigh nothing on that report saying haspel did discuss withdrawing, but was bouncing her concern off white house officials, who are guiding her through the process. Haspel faces stiff criticism from democrats and some republicans, even in her role in enhanced interrogation procedure. Love your take, kennedy, i know you have something to say about this. Democracy, President Trump won the election, should pick the people he wants in top positions. Kennedy absolutely, that is what the hearings are for, vet these people, get a sense of who they are and challenge them on past and present positions. Certainly her personal history. And hiding behind the fact that much of her Work Histories classified is not enough. There are some very serious questions that need to be raised about those sites, particularly the ones she oversaw in thailand and two senators, whom i think are good on civil liberty, white and rand paul raised concerns about her and i hope senators take careful time and deliberation. We have, as we were just talking about, such erosion of trust and Law Enforcement and with the c. I. A. We cant just say, you know, shes a woman, shes been there a long time and that is enough. That is not enough. It doesnt matter who the candidate is. If there are questions about their past, those need to be raised and thoroughly answered. And be taken to that hearing, this comes charlie, after admiral Ronny Jackson was dragged through the mud publicly. What does it say about where we are that you have a lot of Public Servants that want to withdraw their names before being put up before a hearing. It is sad. Charlie kennedy, you are right and i would like answers to the questions, as well. Sadly, you could probably count on one hand the number of democrats or republicans in the senate who actually care about those things and want the answers to those questions. The real thing, they dont like her because donald trump nominated her and want to do anything they can to undermine him by stopping her. Obviously they are not doing havent yet gone into any of the personal stuff the way we saw with Ronny Jackson, but i think politically speaking, again, setting aside the good questions you raised, the politically speaking, this is a great fight for trump to have. Especially when hes in the middle of negotiating with north korea, talking about iran. Major things going on. This is a great i would say that it is okay for him in your argument, to have that, but for the democracy itself, maybe not so much. Charlie agreed. Kennedy weve got open seats of more than 100, i was at the going away event for the german ambassador, what rick ranel. Kennedy he was thanking people for support, he waited so long to get confirmed. I agree with kennedy, we need a venue to ask about the black sites and a venue to get thoughtful questions. I dont know if a hearing will get us further than other public hearings have. We need vetting and do it expeditiously. What granel wants to do. He will be pretty busy with germany and iran and korea and all that, pretty busy with that, but when he can, he wants to fight against a can sept everything has to go through the senate and congress for confirmation. Can there be some jobs where you have thoughtful review and not have it be a political fight. I thought it was interesting. He would know, hes been through it. Lisa, Sarah Sanders did say this, everyone fighting for Women Empowerment are hypocrites saying gina haspel cant go up. It makes me laugh, using democrats against them. Anything sexist, if they disagree, they label you something horrific and you are likely not. I think it is kind of funny to use that against the democrats. If you are not going to support the first female c. I. A. Director, you are sexist or dont believe in womens empowerment. The Trump Administration has a strong case to be made here. Look, gina haspel has been part of the c. I. A. Since 1985, as long as ive been alive and on this earth. Shes had the endorsement charlie, we feel old. [laughter] she also has support of every individual who served in the intelligence committee, former directors, deputy directors, as well, and i do think if democrats vote against her largely for political reasons, not like kennedy laid out and having real concerns and questions for her. It is political. We saw that play out with mike pompeo when democrats voted for him for c. I. A. Director and Didnt Support him as Secretary Of State. Come on. At least have the hearing. Great point. It is on wednesday, well see what happens there. Coming up on the show, final push by supporters and critics of the Iran Nuclear Deal ahead of political dead let line coming this saturday. Top diplomat is making official during a twoday stop in washington, plus amid the good vibes ahead of historic summit between President Trump and the north korean dictator, rogue nation is lashing out at the u. S. , what is this about and does it put that meet nothing jeopardy . Reid lamberty i wont use the rhetoric then, im trying to calm it down a little bit. I will not use the rhetoric. You can listen to the stories you love while doing the things you love, outside. Everyones doing it shes binging. Theyre binging. And. So is he. So put on your turn on audible and binge better. Searching for answers may feel overwhelming. So start your search with our teams of specialists at Cancer Treatment centers of america. The evolution of cancer care is here. Learn more at cancercenter. Com experts. 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We think that what you can do is be tougher on iran, address the concerns of the president and not throw the baby out with the bath water. Not junk the deal. As i say, plan b does not seem to me to be particularly well developed at this stage. The visit by the u. K. Top diplomat ahead of the may 12 deadline for the president to decide whether he will keep the u. S. In the deal. Meanwhile, a Top Republican is urging the president to stick with the agreement, Congressman Thornberry chairs the Armed Services committee. Watch. The key question is, okay, now we are where we are, what happens next if the u. S. Pulls out . Maybe the best thing is for the president to delay a bit more, his deadline of this month, and put the french and the british up to the test about whether it is possible to get this other sort of agreement. Harris okay, one side, charlie, delay things and work on a Contingency Plan and bring more people and europe onboard. What do you think about the reports of Shadow Diplomacy with the former Secretary Of State, john kelly . I mean, does that help our government . Help our cause to have him in the back wings saying no, no, no, keep the deal and no. Charlie no, it is breathtaking, the idea, john kerry wants to put oar in the water on this, not because he hasnt already, he came up with a crappy deal to begin with, call up the Secretary Of State and lobby him. The idea that john kerry would go behind secretly negotiate with the leader of a country that wants to annihilate us, remove us from the map of the world, and secretly negotiate with them to undermine u. S. Foreign policy, which is being set by the president and unlike john kerry, who tried and failed, donald trump ran for president and got elected president and gets to set the policy. You know what makes sense, makes him the jane fonda of the middle east, not kidding about that. Charlie it is true. Something unethical and underheadd and put politics aside, Foreign Policy and diplomacy is straight from domestic politics. Put that aside and go ahead it is a little back and forth. Charlie donald trump won the election run og this issue, that is another important thing to remember, as well. Harris the president tweeted, he likes to do that. He did. The United States does not need john kerrys possibly illegal Shadow Diplomacy on the badly negotiated iran deal. He was the one that created this mess in the first place, exclamation point. Back and forth and then john kerry spokesperson, very busy, i think every american would want every voice possible to urge iran to remain in compliance with the agreement that prevented a war. All right, i want to get my head around the spokespersons response, though, lisa, it is saying two different things. It is not saying stay in the deal, it is not just saying that, but it averted a war. Talk to me. Lisa based on recent intelligent from israel that came to light, the Intelligence Community has known about for a while that the entire deal was basically predicated on a bunch of lies, right . Built on a bunch of lies from iran itself. To charlies point real quick regarding john kerry. It is a little hypocritical going back and looking at some accusations on Michael Flynn when he was part of an Income Administration talking about sanctions with the russian ambassador, pretty much Standard Operating Procedure considering the fact he is part of an incoming administration, hypocrisy but for President Trump, three main concerns with the iran deal, ballistic missile, verification, what they have on the ground and the sunset clauses, as well. We know that even president macron share the concerns. The question is what do we do and can we strengthen the deal. Harris i dont know if concerns from macron and certainly not from the actual german chancellor, angela merkel, we know she wouldnt see it this way, if the concerns were sincere enough to drive a new deal. Sure, they are there. I would add a fourth, we dont know the side deal. That is absolutely right. You dont know. When it comes to iran, there are no good options and talking about john kerry, this is his legacy, the iran deal is his entire baby. Look back on his tenure of Secretary Of State, biggest thing he left behind. For him, a lot of this is personal. Hes nervous the president is going to end the deal that is all he can during that time in office. It is ego. Dealing with iran is more than ego. Iran is the biggest threat to the United States for a number of reasons and no good options are on the table. Either change the deal and if the president says he is negotiator and chief to practice negotiating skills. Harris how about everybody else, like republicans, like thornberry, you cant step away from this deal. How about doing Shadow Deal Building . Plan b, i dont know. The same thing about the kind that is legal and patriotic within the walls of the congress in the United States. Some other ideas. I know were about to talk about north korea, but there are a lot of similarities here and the Biggest Issue with iran is not them having a nuclear weapon, it is having hedge moany and having a relationship with north korea, having stake in syria, absolutely, it is also funding hezbollah and human rights violations, among other things. You know, those elements were completely sidelined in crafting of this deal to the detriment of not only middle east, but you have people like rice who said it wouldnt be the end of the world if we did pull out. Some people are pushing President Trump to stay in it. It wouldnt be the end of the world. That is different information, he wants to do what he wants to do. Dream big. North korean lashing out at u. S. Ahead of a planned summit between President Trump and kim jongun. The News Agency Says washington is misleading Public Opinion by claiming u. S. Led sanctions pressured the regime to make denuclearization pledge, and it warns the u. S. Not to deliberately provoke the north by deploying strategic assets in south korea and raising human rights issues. Just days ago President Trump said hes taking steps to reduce tension with the regime. Watch. President trump were really doing well with north korea. Were really doing well. [applause] President Trump remember, they said, its going to be terrible, they were actually saying, three months ago when the rhetoric was rather sharp. Do we agree . I wont use the rhetoric, im trying to calm it down a little bit. I will not use the rhetoric. No rhetoric. Harris lets talk about this, kim jongun is essentially a sociopath, throwing a fit about the big wheel, the big gun, his nuclear program. It is not a surprise they are pushing back in this way through the staterun news agency, but does it actually, is this sort of volley that we should expect leading up to the summit or is this problematic . Charlie the fact there hasnt been more quite frankly, surprises me. Because of course, you would expect this and youre exactly right, kim jongun is a tyrant and you cant trust a word he says. That is why, i said, anybody in negotiations with lunatic like this, good to have like somebody like donald trump, i have more faith in him than i would say john kerry going into the negotiations. The reason is because as we saw with iran, he didnt address things we care most about, he gave them bundles and bundles of money and billions literally. Not even metaphorically. Charlie funding terror efforts around the world. I do believe donald trump will walk away if he doesnt get what he wants and i believe that he will go in there and genuinely try to drive a real good bargain. Can i ask you a question . You have diplomacy in your family. Ive lived in those neck of the woods. And through your dad, the ambassador. When you look at what has been accomplished so far, it still far ahead of anything we have seen. Kennedy historic. We should all take a step back and realize where we are at this moment. The fact that north and south korea, kim jongun stepped foot on south korean soil, first time in decades, that is a huge deal. You have to remember what is going on in the head of kim jongun, right . In his mind, of course hes not wanting to give President Trump credit for this happening, in his mind, hes accomplished what his dad and granddad have been pushing for years and years, developing nuclear program, right . Now he says we can hang with the big guys, as nuclear country, so we are now able to open up to the west, they still want to remain that strong voice and strong power, so the president has to be careful. Harris can you do both . Kennedy i think you can. Does it really matter if it was sanctions and the pressure and harris it does to him. It does to kim jongun. Charlie and to donald trump. Kennedy say we give him that one, kim, you can have it on your terms. Burger king all the way. It is optics for kim jongun, the political optics for him, he has to save faith heading into the conversation with the president. Harris can we just give them this one . It is interesting. Kennedy you did it because you are so smart and logical and love swiss cheese and obviously that is nobody likes swiss cheese. President trump weigh nothing on three Senate Primaries tomorrow, could determine the Balance Of Power in washington. Candidates in those races aligning themselves with the president and his agenda. Will that strategy work in the general election . Discussed in moments. Stay right here. Im just worried about the house and taking care of the boys. Zach talk to me. Its for the house. I got a job. Its okay. Dad took care of us. Represent the g. O. P. s best hopes of unseeding incumbent democrats. Charlie, im hearing Don Blankenship is up by two in West Virginia right now. Karl rove says republicans can kiss West Virginia goodbye if Don Blankenship wins, is he right . Charlie i dont know if hes right about that. A lot of people predicting Don Blankenship wasnt wane West Virginia, have been wrong about a lot of things. Also not forget in 2012, it was a convicted felon who was in prison who won 40 of the vote in West Virginia, while in prison, against in democratic primary against barack obama. West virginia, predicting how West Virginia will vote is not an easy thing. There is a real problem that republicans are having drafting off of the trump off of trumps coattails. The big problem is that, you know, the antiwashington sentiment that got trump into the white house is still out there. So in place like West Virginia, they wind up going behind guy like blankenship. West virginia is an interesting state, since about 2000, its really been trending more and more red. The only reason joe manchin has been the main democrat there, he is very much in the middle. He Didnt Support tax cuts, he Didnt Support repealing obamacare. Interesting to see how that plays in the general. I think hes still a very popular, he was governor of the state, if he were to lose as democrat of West Virginia, i think that could be the beginning of West Virginia completely being red. Ive interviewed joe manchin and he is a strong candidate. Don blankenship been to jail, probably not the best to have candidate who spent time in jail. Did you see his campaign ad . Cocaine mitch, i dont care, man, he looks like hes nervous about something. Do you agree with charlies assessment that perhaps it doesnt matter who wins the primary in the state . I think it does matter. I think unfortunately for republicans, there are still going to be very independentminded voters in a place like West Virginia. Its different than every other state and, you know, they deserve to put their own candidates and nominees forth, i get that. Still, Don Blankenship looks nuts. Harris just for a second, revisit what we saw in pa18, district 18 with connor lamb. If joe manchin decides to even just a little bit further right, republicans are going to have a mess on their hands potentially, right . Yeah. Harris you can say It Doesnt Matter who he goes up against, you got to be looking at who can beat joe manchin, regardless of whose coattails, whose tweets, looking that way. The attorney general, i dont know, maybe. These other men in the race benefited from the president s tweet potentially, maybe. Who can really beat joe manchin who might go a little bit right like connor lamb. That candidate might not be real down the road, but real in this race. Spot on. Harris some counties in illinois are taking tip from liberal Declaring Sanctuarys for gun ors, will it work . Is it the right way to handle this issue . Stay tuned. Simple goodness harris welcome back. A controversial move by some county necessary Southern Illinois declaring themselves sanctuary counties for gun rights. They are pushing back against threats to target their Second Amendment right. Taking cue from Sanctuary City policies that refused to enforce federal Immigration Laws. Authors behind the resolution admit their move is largely symbolic, but they are making a point. This is interesting, charlie, you have republicans who are basically sending a message to democratic lawmakers pushing for more gun control in illinois. Question is, is this hypocritical for republicans who have been so negative, so antiSanctuary City and state to say well do the same thing about laws we dont want to abide by. Charlie sure, it is hypocritical. Do this with Immigration Laws and claiming dulypassed, enacted Immigration Laws that are on the books and have been for a long time, were not going to obey the laws, why dont you do it for everything. You could do it for gun laws, for, i dont know, whatever. And, it is a terrible thing. Harris should we do away with Sanctuary Cities . Charlie that would be a start. Kennedy we have to find a difference between constitutional right. This is enshrined in the bill of rights for a very good reason and its very important issue for Many Americans who feel it is their duty in order to protect themselves and their families and selfdefense is critical, especially in places like illinois, where parts of illinois have been, you know, riddled with the type of crime that you really dont see, except for once in a generation and they want this phased path and do it by protecting themselves and that is the difference. Immigration policy is screwed up, it is up endd and republicans and democrats have to figure out way to have comprehensive immigration so you Dont Have Willie Nilly Policies in states, countys and cities. Harris im understanding this is happen nothing Rural Counties in the state . This underscores a point ive been making, gun control is not right versus left, it is rural verse urban. Breaking down of course your thoughts, which is true, more rural individuals have guns than those that live in urban areas, but the fact you have the bulk of the rural individual have owned a gun before the age of 18 and that break down is so different than individuals living in urban areas, as well. I think it underscores this deep divide on the gun divide based on what area you live in. Harris when you look at the vice Chairman Of The Board and this is a rural area effingham county. What he is saying, they are turning the wording on its head because it provides you such a rich talking point, at that point. The word is already out there. Sanctuary and it does flip it. What kennedy is saying, do you need a sanctuary for something that is constitutionally protected and do you go down a dicey road if you treat it like that . Charlie what really should happen, these laws should be challenged on the grounds of constitutionality and the Supreme Court has been very vocal that there are very, very few limits that you can ever put on this stuff because as i you say, it is constitutional right. You can protect yourself, your family and your neighbors. Yeah. I think there is a difference talking Sanctuary City and gun rights . Charlie absolutely. See how this plays out. Harris especially for people that say they have a right to be here, illegally or not and want Sanctuary Cities, like what they are doing in chicago, with rob emmanual. That is not a constitutional right. I get the Talking Points with words and hash tagable, issues are different. See how that plays out in illinois. More outnumbered in just a moment, stick with us. At ally, were doing Digital Financial services right. But if thats not enough, we have more than 8000 allys looking out for one thing you. Call in the next ten minutes. 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