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To the news. The deadliest shooting in Texas History couldve been worse. At least 26 people were killed when a man dressed in black technical styled gear and armed with an Assault Rifle open fired during a Church Service for that government is now identified as devin kelley. He was found dead in his car. But before that, Authorities Say a local resident who heard the shots being fired and grabbed his own gun and he and another man went after that suspect, exchanging fire. Is and with all active shooter situations, the number one goal of Law Enforcement is to neutralize the shooter. In the situation, we we had tod samaritans who did that for Law Enforcement. It was across the street from the church heard what was going on, he armed himself with an ar Assault Rifle and engage the suspect. We know that the suspect was shot when he dropped his Assault Rifle, jumped in his Ford Expedition and fled the scene. This good samaritan, our texas hero flagged down another young man in jumped in the vehicle and they pursued the suspect. Adam housley is live in Sutherland Sutherland springs texas. A lot of information came out of that press conference 25 minutes ago. From grandchildren to grandparents, the youngest victim found by the church behind me 18 months old, the oldest victim inside that church 77 years old. The only victim to die at hospital also a child. As you might imagine, very tough day, very tough day. Yesterday a very tough day today and very tough days come in this part of texas. Some of the details also include the fact that the gunman was at a gas station not far from this church. In fact, only a stones throw away. He was wearing some of that black Tactical Gear at some point, got into his car, drove over here to the church which is only 100 yards or so, put on a black mask with a white school face on it. He walked into the church, open fire for some significant amount of time. At some point, walking up and shooting people pointblank. We do know that after he left here and was engaged by the neighbor across the street with a rifle and was chasing after him, he called his father and said he had told his father he been shot and he probably wouldnt make it. Theres also a connection to church as we feared. The church was once his motherinlaws congregation we are told. Take a listen. There was a domestic situation going on within this family. The suspects motherinlaw attended this church. We know that he had made threats texts from him and we can go into detail about the domestic situation that is continuing. The suspect had purchased for weapons, one each year since his discharge. This Honorable Discharge from military to a colorado, two in texas, when it sheer grit he had three of them here. As for the victim, there was a candlelight vigil last night. One family, extended family lost Seven Members of that family. 26 that died. The one child who died at the hospital. We know there are still 20 people, some in very Critical Condition including University Hospital where his three children into adults remain prayed as give it back to you guys, as one local put it, only a handful of people inside that church yesterday about 24 hours ago were not shot. Harris wow. Thank you very much. The detail that we have learned just in the short little while about it being born of a domestic type of situation, when you talk with police officers, they will always tell you on many of them that their most dreaded call, the ones that tend to turn violent or go south in such a horrible way in the come out of domestic situations that have been hooking for quite a while. Charlie thats exactly why it is illegal in this country if you have been convicted of Domestic Violence of any kind, you are prohibited from buying a gun obviously also on that list of things that prohibits you from buying a gun as if youve been dishonorably discharged from the military. Of course, both of these applied to this dirt bag and he not only bought guns but neighbors talk about hearing him fire his weapon in his backyard and he put the picture on facebook. People around him who knew what a monster he was knew that he had illegal guns or shouldve known known he had illegal guns. Harris a couple things that we learn this morning is about the Domestic Violence part of it, yes but he had a bad conduct discharge, which is different on your record. For the assault of his spouse and his child. I think this is one of those in the coming days, we are going to learn a lot more. And looking back at past shootings, you find out to your point there were people whether its family members, friends or even neighbors around him that saw red flags but were afraid to say something. You never know what youre going to learn in the following days but likely we will probably hear from some people who said something just wasnt right. Katie im curious to know if there were previous complaints from the family about him in terms of Domestic Violence. We havent heard if there was anything that prevented this from happening but in terms of how we got here, there are a lot of people asking the question of how did he get a firearm as youve already discussed. He had a disHonorable Discharge. He served time for Domestic Violence. Double, two times makes you ineligible to own a firearm according to federal law. The question becomes of the military dropped the ball and putting those records into the federal background check system and so those are questions that we are going to have to have answered but why did the background check go through because he did purchase these firearms at a store for background check was conducted. Harris to add facts of this, he did fill out the form and you could say because he didnt put that disHonorable Discharge on it. It was a bad conduct. Kennedy there is a difference. Be one of the question would be a do they need to take another look at how they categorized because the dishonorable would be a murder, something horrific. Kennedy military lockup for abuse against your spouse and child. Harris we may see some of this conversation happened at that military level. Kennedy a bigger conversation about what is it that makes human life something that is so easy to discard . What is it that fills people with such a trade . How have we broken down so much that letter eight, people are capable of doing that, and b, we are incapable of recognizing it or stopping it to match the people who were there at that concert in las vegas who thankfully survived in the family members of those who didnt, they see events like this and there completely retraumatized. We also look at the terror attack we had last week in new york city and is the same kind of sociopathic mechanism part of what is it about that that allows people to slip into this type of email . I dont even know if you call it madness. The guy had the wherewithal to map this out and wear a bulletproof vest and a mask. You kind of can. He took 26 lives and hes a horrible person who woke up and help it he is awful. Harris we live it to the doctors for the final word on that. President trump is responding to the text of shooting during his trip to asia and we will have more on that visit a little bit later. First during the joint News Conference with the Prime Minister of japan, a reporter asked the president about the Church Shooting and whether its time for stricter gun laws. Watch. I think that Mental Health is a problem here. This was a very based on pulmonary thought, very deranged individual, a lot of problems over a long period of time. We have a lot of Mental Health problems in our country as to other countries. But this isnt a guns situation. Harris but democrats are saying its time for gun control legislation. Here is senator Richard Blumenthal of connecticut. Because of these laws work. Common sense steps like background checks, a ban on assault weapons and highcapacity magazines. If you tell the most avid gun owner what background checks to you, keep guns out of the hands of criminals. And terrorists. No flat, no bite. Senator chris murphy all from from connecticut said this in a statement that my colleagues need to think about whether the Political Support of the gun industry is worth the blood that flows and mostly out of the floors of american churches, elementary schools, movie theaters, and city streets. The massachusetts senator Elizabeth Warren tweeted this. Thoughts and prayers are not enough. G. O. P. , we must end this violence. We must stop these tragedies. People are dying while you wait. Charlie, your thoughts. I understand its a human reaction to want to say will couldve been done to fix this . But this business of taking an event like this and trying to score political points in. Throwing out suggestions of things that wont fix anything or even worse, not even throwing out suggestions, but is blaming it on the Republican Party or someone like that as if there is anyone in the world who wouldnt want to prevent this. Harris you see celebrities doing it. Chelsea handler doing it today. Shes blaming republicans. Charlie all of that adds as you were saying, this lack of understanding, this lack of compassion for one another. No one is listening. Harris its a lack of understanding for each individual things that happen. What happened in vegas is different from this, its different from the next. I went to press in a little bit with what we are talking about because i want people to understand. I disHonorable Discharge of or something on the lines of distortion, murder, and those horrendous violent crimes. A bad conduct discharge can be something as simple assault, could be less than that. So they get flagged in the system for the military very differently when you talk about reporting and what comes up in a background check. Katie it still makes you ineligible according to federal law, that code is 18 usc 922g. It makes you ineligible to purchase a firearm. So the military has to put it into the system. When we get talked to from senators that we just saw about background checks when this guy passed a background check, he couldve looked through the system but the fact is that we have these laws in place and you talk about the celebrities mothers a bunch of celebrities and pundits out there on the internet come on twitter accounts falsely saying that we dont have these laws on the books which doesnt help when it comes to trying to prevent these things. Harris theyre tweeting tweeting to each other. Kennedy there tweeting within a vacuum. There tweeting to a group of people who already recognize their opinion as fact and that is not necessarily the case. People always have to be careful but i said the same thing after the terror attack in new york city. Dont have kneejerk political reactions to tragedy. Its always the worst time to craft laws. I understand and charlie said, i understand that pivot to justice. He went to see something has to change, something has to be done in the Immediate Reaction of the left is more gun control. That wouldnt necessarily work. Sandra when forced into the gun debate, question this morning, he said actually more private citizens i would like to see armed with guns, legal law abiding Citizens Armed weekly with guns to combat the situation like this from happening. Dont forget, this man decided to play this out in a venue that people feel the most safe inside their church doors. Harris there was somebody firing back. He grabbed another neighbor. Charlie the vast majority of american, it is good for them to be armed. We when kennedy hit the nail on the head, we have to talk about the hate, the mental illness, whatever drives it. We have to talk about it as a nation. President trump overseas in asia. He is keeping up the tough talk on north korea. What he says in the air of strategic patience is over. As he gets a key american ally on board defaced on the nuclear threat. Plus, the fight between its getting ugly. Tween former interim dnc chairman Donna Brazile over claims of her book that the clinton camp effectively took control of the Democratic National committee well before the primaries. The latest salvo and whether this fight could hurt the Democratic Party. Stay close. For those who are telling me to shut up and told Hillary Clinton that a couple months ago, i tell them go to hell. Im going to tell my story. Alright, i brought in high protein to help get us moving. And help you feel more strength and energy in just two weeks ill take that. Yeeeeeah ensure high protein. With 16 grams of protein and 4 grams of sugar. Ensure. Always be you. Pepsoriasis does that. It was tough getting out there on stage. I wanted to be clear. I wanted it to last. So i kept on fighting. I found something that worked. And keeps on working. Now . They see me. See me. 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This has republicans from high tax states remain wary about losing cherished state and local Tax Deductions. The Speaker Paul Ryan confident the house can get a bill out by thanksgiving. And avoid the missteps of the Obamacare Repeal effort. Watch. We are on for moving this through the house. We expect our friends in the sun to be about a week behind us. For we do differently as we work for the senate ahead of time from the summer on the put this bill together together to basically create a framework of this bill, house senate and the white house and launch this thing together and to be very chlorinated. Sandra new york republican pete king says he is a know right now unless the provision of the minutes the state and local tax breaks truck from the bill. Meantime, Senate Republicans could get a yes from the other side of the aisle. West virginia democrat joe manchin saying he wont rule out supporting the plan. So it is set up for you. This is a big week and its a big day. Is huge, and obviously is going to get tinkered with more this week but what a sort of unusual that i think its kind of interesting about the state and local Tax Deduction is there actually, that were taken out of the spill and debated among democrats and republicans, it would pick up a lot of democrats. There plenty of democrats from especially in the senate who represent states that basically subsidize high tax areas like california and they come from rural places that have to subsidize that. I would think if we were in such partisan gridlock on everything, that would be something that actually would get a lot of support. Harris one thing to talk about is those 14 states like california, new york, new jersey and a few others that are on that list. Incumbent among states and how they spend their dollars to watch their own physical responsibility because if youre sending the government a dollar in your getting 0. 79 back, thats a conversation that probably needs to be had outside of this. Sandra you to start a very confident paul ryan. Thanksgiving is aggressive. Kennedy things giving is incredibly aggressive. A lot of people are intrigued at the idea of bipartisanship especially in the senate where you got those three senators, joe donnelly, north dakota and joe manchin from west virginia, and they all have reason to be invested in a fiscally responsible tax plan with the likes of which democrats have not put forward for it all theyre putting forward right now is resistance. There were so many problems with the plan. It is still very complicated. Its not the only area where there are inflection points and people who are willing to put aloft. Youre going to see the corporate rate and some of the other areas where they could make the biggest impact on the economy, but you still may have people. Sandra where they go there . What you see happening in their . Kennedy obamacare taxes will come up. We are watching them be made now in a public forum which will add in a whole bunch of other debate on top of the debate of the house is having on its own. Paul ryan i think was issuing a warning to the senate when he says we expect our friends of the senate to be a week behind us. That is him saying weve been doing our work all year long and we was kicked up forward you up to getting it done and being the president s agenda done and getting what we have promised to get done for the American People and you guys are the ones who cant seem to finish the job. I think that was a time line from him to his friends in the senate to say we are getting it done over here, its your turn to finally get something passed. Charlie he has a point. Republicans have a lot of bad votes, tough votes only to have that vote rendered completely useless over the senate. Katie was all this in august when everyone was asking paul write about whether the senate was actually going to repeal and replace obamacare and he kept saying the work in the house is on. I dont know why youre asking me about this. Weve done our part. Its not my problem anymore. Kennedy the two houses are worn with one another. There are factions within the Republican Party that cant get along and never mind the democrats. Thats why people like Chuck Schumer and nancy pelosi have two strong arm everyone and get them and had locks in order to vote in lockstep. And thats not Good Business for people like three southerners i mention, to be better for them and their constituents that they were able to vote for this. Sandra also the debate over winning both sides over that we are not talking about the actual growth that this is going to spur. There are three, three and half right now. Where is the robust four plus percent growth . Katie we need more economists in congress and there arent a whole lot of them. Sandra a small texas town is morning after gunmen opened fire at a Church Service killing 26 people yesterday morning and wounding 20 more. The latest in that investigation into the deadliest shooting in Texas History. Plus, President Trump is slamming north Korean Leader kim jong un during his trip to asia and he says he will try to get help from russian president vladimir pugh in. Whether thats a good idea. What is going to take. To neutralize the north Korean Nuclear threat. With an ingredient originally discovered. In jellyfish. In clinical trials, prevagen has been shown to improve shortterm memory. Prevagen. The name to remember. If you have moderate to Severe Ulcerative Colitis or crohns, and your symptoms have left you with the same view, it may be time for a different perspective. 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President trump is in asia for the beginning of a 12 day five country tour and right now he is in japan where he held a joint News Conference and talk about a strategy to confront north korea. The commander in chief said he will meet with the russian president Vladimir Putin this week and enlist his help against an increasingly aggressive kim jong un. The area of strategic patience is over. Some people said that my rhetoric is very strong, but look at what has happened with very weak rhetoric. The United States of america stands in solidarity with the people of japan against the north korean menace. History has proven over and over that strong and free nations will always prevail over tyrants that oppress our people. Harris he would also told reporters he would be willing to talk to kim jong un. Meeting with the russian president and talking with the dictator from conoco. Charlie obviously, this guy is unorthodox and International Affairs is no exception for that. He went over and he refers to japan as a warrior nation, which of course has people throughout the region just freaking out, terrified of the notion that an american president would refer to japan as a warrior nation but its brilliant because of course, among the people who are freaking out right now over the notion that japan is a warrior nation is china. If you want to get china to the table sweating a little bit to sort of make something work, theyre the only people that can solve this north korea thing, so all the other diplomacy hasnt worked in the past, maybe this will work. Harris didnt just say they were a warrior nation but he gives the examples of how others would be quaking in their boots at the thoughts of them. Katie he knows exactly what hes saying is going to be troubling to the countries around it but japan has a big stake in this obviously. The requisite theyve been firing, the missiles that theyve been testing have been flying over japan when that happen, nikki haley made it very clear that she was upset with it and it was not something that was going to be tolerated in terms of the president meeting with russian president Vladimir Putin, he has to convince him to go and talk to china. You have to come to the table and say this is why i think the americans are better in terms of the strategy here to stop north korea with a nuclear program. The president needs him to say that. Kennedy in those terms, no because everyone of these big countries, these global superpowers, those who perceive themselves to be superpowers maybe arent necessarily anymore, all want to do two things on their own terms and that includes russia, but this is the way that they have to play right now, and its better. Our alliance with japan is always a much stronger than our alliance with china. The United States would much rather see an economically robust japan, and thats why they are putting much more effort into a good tipple medic with japan and thats Prime Minister made matching halves for me and our president. Harris i wonder if our president would ask him did you meddle in our election because if you did, im going to open up a big can of whoop. Katie just like that, id imagine. To me, what is amazing is this isnt getting more coverage. This is a huge trip and huge opportunity. One who is willing to engage and have conversations like this. Constructive to have a conversation. Charlie i would be willing to have a friendly relationship with these people. Kennedy do you think its possible that we will play a game of red rover and exchange George Papadopoulos for Edward Snowden . Charlie that would be a really good exchange. When you look at what happened in the middle east with iran and iraq and obvious they took out a rack and Saddam Hussein was a terrible character but you sometimes wonder whether we thought strategically about the fact that overhead and a rack kind of kept each other. They were adversaries, both terrible regimes but they kept each other in check. It does seem like donald trump is exhibiting. Harris a lot is being made about this. I remember when president obama met with the leader of russia and he said to that particular person look forward to some sort of reset. We will move on. The Russian Investigation is ramping up. We will tell you about that. He reports say Robert Muellers team has enough evidence to bring charges against President Trumps former National Security advisor Michael Flynn and his son. What can we expect from that and could affect the president . And former interim dnc chair Donna Brazile firing back at critics who are slamming her claims about Hillary Clintons 2016 president ial campaign and her new tellall book. Whether the drama could hurt the Democratic Party ahead of midterms. We will talk about it. Spread a little love today spread a little love myy way spread a Little Something to remember philadelphia cream cheese. Made with fresh milk and real cream makes your recipes their holiday favourites. The holidays are made with philly. Hi dad. No. Edont try to get up. Hi, im julie, a right at home caregiver. And if id been caring for toms dad, i would have noticed some dizziness that could lead to balance issues. Thats because im trained to report any changes in behavior, no matter how small, so tom could have peace of mind. Well be right there. We have to go. Hey, tom. You should try right at home. Theyre great for us. The right care. Right at home. Sandra fox news alert. A former Truck Campaign chair Paul Manafort along with his longtime business associate rick gates will remain under house arrest with movements tracked by gps until their lawyers and prosecutors can hammer out a deal that would free them from home confinement. All this as nbc news reporting that Robert Muellers team has gathered enough evidence to bring charges against President Trumps former National Security advisor Michael Flynn and his son as part of the probe into russias meddling in the 2016 election. Source is reportedly saying mueller hopes the elder flynn will cooperate to help his son. An indictment against flynn would mark the first charges against to the current reformer member of the trump white house. In those developing developmen . Charlie two things, i am amazed at the leaks that are coming out of mueller steam, and it really does make me wonder in a situation where we are already wondering the degree to which these people are operating, it really makes me question that because they are clearly trying to do some damage ahead of time. The second thing is this. Honestly, we are going to talk about all these charges we are going to talk about all of this stuff but if what they are going after our people like Paul Manafort and Michael Flynn in a case of Paul Manafort about stuff that happened ten or 12 years ago, its going to be a big deal among us that covers the stuff but i think in the vast majority of america, they are going to be like whatever. None of this affects me. Its not important. It certainly doesnt delegitimize the present. Sandra do you think this will have an impact on trumped . Kennedy Michael Flynn stuff is a little bit different than the Paul Manafort stuff. I agree with you manafort stuff. We have that much money in those kinds of resources end. And that much influence is turned on one person, you can find anything. When the fbi shows up at someones house and at the point of a gun, takes financial records and computers, its like of course, they are going to find something that we have to ask ourselves this is what justice looks like . In the case of Michael Flynn, he was offered millions of dollars to help extradite a muslim cleric from the United States back to turkey where their leader has grown into a fullblown action, thats a very questionable exchange. But to charlies point, why do we know that . What is the point of these leaks other than to put so much pressure on the subject of these leaks that they turn before they are indictment . Katie if you look at what Paul Manafort was charged with and what could translate to Michael Flynn, when you look specifically away from manaforts business dealings and into his lack of registration as a foreign agent, i think thats where mueller is going to nail him and hes going after tony podesta who was a big democrat lobbyist in d. C. As well on the same issue. The Chuck Grassley who was the chairman of the Senate Judiciary committee has actually been screaming about this for years now saying theyre all these lobbyist in washington, d. C. , on both sides of the political aisle were going overseas, partnering up with governments like turkey, prorussia ukraine government in making a ton of money, not reporting to the irs which made a fork got in trouble for and it is a problem that we need to deal with in order to breed corruption across the political aisle. So i think thats probably what they are looking at with him. There might be other charges as well but in terms of what is on the table, that is certainly likely. Harris it is so interesting because back in the campaign trail, with the president used to say about lobbyists, and didnt need any of them. Im also thinking that this is the guy he fired for lying to the Vice President. Im thinking this is probably a good day in the sense of moving forward with his investigation. The president saying i could hear him saying it. This is the guy i fired. They can listen more reasons things that went wrong. Thats kind of on blush. So we know the fbi, the leaks will find out by wednesday. Katie it will look at whether he was charged with colluding with the russians and a completely separate issue in terms of money laundering. Kennedy the issue of the association between the campaign and these people. If they are so unsavory and so unethical, on to other things. I dont believe it is, but now it is. The interim dnc chair Donna Brazile firing back at critics and her new tellall book, so enticing and comparing the Emotional Trauma she endured during Hillary Clintons 2016 president ial campaign to a deadly natural disaster. Watch. For those who are telling me to shut up, they told him that a couple months ago. You know what i tell them . Go to hell. Im going to tell my story. This was worse than Hurricane Katrina in terms of the emotional toll. Do i regret standing up for whats right, helping Hillary Clinton, helping the Democratic Party . Do i regret any of that . I wish i couldve done more. Kennedy there is pushback. More than 100 former senior aides issued a rebuttal saying that do not recognize the campaign brazile portrays in the book because it made them look bad. For my dnc chair tom perez slamming her claims that you thought about replacing hillary as a democratic nominee with former Vice President joe biden after linton in the white house race. Watch this. All they know is under the rules and bylaws of the Democratic National committee, she couldnt have done this. Hillary clinton was anything other than incapacitated. She was tireless. She was a workhorse, and frankly what saddens me about this as much as anything is i think people who read that charge is just without merit are going to perhaps start wondering about other claims in the book. Kennedy this is why some of the rebuttals are so disingenuous. Donna brazile didnt say that she was going to unilaterally singlehandedly replace Hillary Clinton with joe biden. Or what she said was she thought it might have to be a possibility because Hillary Clinton looks like someone who is deeply rattled and sick and potentially incapacitated. Charlie as bad as we thought it was at the time, it turns out is actually so much worse. And who could blame on brazil for researching, having a plan plan b. But it really is just astonishing. I believe this for a long time, that the civil war that we saw in the Republican Party between chambers and between donald trump, all of that stuff pales in comparison to the crackup that we are seeing in the Democratic Party and you have people like tom perez and Chuck Schumer, they are denying that is happening. Kennedy they are denying it because they will not seize power. She also talks about the people within hillarys campaign who treated her horribly. Harris is that what she said . I think she called it. She dropped the race card really hard. Kennedy she said i am not. Harris not a slave and so on and so forth which is difficult because youre looking at a party that prides itself on diversity issues and on compartmentalizing people who look like me and who speak different languages and so on and so forth. So then it begs the question, if your interim head of that party, why wouldnt you bring up the issues then . Because of its that bad for a person who is in that much power, what the heck is it like for anyone else . Wouldnt it be her job to kind of bring that forth and to make sure that there is equality and diversity and certain inns . I have a lot of questions. Kennedy i want to know from you how upset are Bernie Sanders fans . Katie extremely. The problem is as they refuse to acknowledge that this is happening and refused to seize power, they have no plan to fix it and this is the chickens coming home to roost on their identity politics, their race baiting. Now they are eating their own on those very issues. Donna brazile to imply and to say she was treated like a slave by other dnc officials for the sake of Hillary Clinton, lets not forget that it was black voters who failed to turn out for Hillary Clinton much so that certainly was reflected in terms of the turnout. Thats a problem for them. Kennedy she said she drove to hispanic neighborhoods and only Hillary Clinton sensuous i was on campaign headquarters. There wasnt the passion there, and obviously there wasnt the money. The dnc has had a hard time raising money. Sandra its amazing when she went on to say how why she scrapped her plan to possibly think about replacing the root clinton with joe biden. She couldnt do that to women. There was too much at stake for women and they were too proud and too excited about that. I know day is going to yell at me for doing this because we are going to talk about that really important virginia governors race next but i just wonder when you talk about that in fighting and you look at this happening with Donna Brazile and the dnc and the democrats, is that having an effect . Charlie without a doubt. Terry mccall is a handpicked clinton person whos governor of virginia right now. And of course, rob northam is running for the nomination also handpicked by the clinton machine. And if he goes down in flames, its going to be that will be the twilight lights out. Kennedy let me ask you this. If Ralph Northam tomorrow night in the virginia governors race, will Donna Brazile be to blame . Charlie no, the clintons will be. Harris you think she has as much power as she does. Kennedy they were attacking her and the timing of this book and the timing of these interviews saying this is an awful time to drop a bomb in the middle of the Democratic Party. We need this victory, we need to all band together. Harris the dnc funding for a particular dossier long before brazile had told us. We still have so much to discuss as we just mentioned. All eyes will be on virginia ass a state prepares to elect a new governor tomorrow. Democrat Ralph Northam and republican ed gillespie facing off in the only Southern State President Trump lost in 2016 the head. My running on the president s legislative agenda could still be a winning formula for republicans. Stay right here. 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Senator warner he blonde on the support of the bill that could get from democrats over time. Top of the hour. Sandra thank you. The governors race in virginia is being watched around the country as they test President Trump influence ahead of the midterm. What is there go to the polls tomorrow to choose between democratic Lieutenant Governor Ralph Northam, and establishment of republican ed gillespie. While he has a republicans endorsement, he is not invoking mr. Trumps name or retreating him. But he has adopted issues that helped trump win like crime, illegal immigration, and social issues like the National Anthem controversy. If gillespie wins in this state or loses by a narrow margin, that could signal to other Establishment Republicans that seizing on those types of issues is the way to win. And a fox news poll out today shows its anybodys game right now. Neither candidate with the majority and the numbers within a margin of error. So charlie, you are a virginian. You know virginia very well for it was to happen tomorrow . Charlie im always hesitant to predict these things. But i do think the fact that the poll suggested that high, member when he ran for senate against mark warner, he was sort of dismissed at the end and that he came within one point of winning and had they indicating that the polls are notoriously have a hard time registering support for ed gillespie. But when i knew things got really nasty, democrats were really in trouble was when i dropped that out last week that showed the pickup truck with ed gillespie sticker running down minority children. It was the most despicable out of ever seen. But the fact that the Ralph Northam campaign would allow an ad like that to go out in support of him revealed to me that this thing their internal show, they are in deep trouble. Katie they ended up pulling that add another 10 of people say they are undecided in terms of voting. We were talking in the green room earlier about how difficult the campaign because you cant campaign against the federal government if you want to win the northern virginia. So the Big Government there is a difficult thing for republicans to grapple with. Kennedy its a really interesting state. For a lot of people, its all about the horse race. Its all about another one of these races. And the democrats have sort of painted these as a referendum against the president. If this doesnt work out for them, and even if its close, but i would say that if they left he actually pulls off a win, they have to come up with another strategy other than to resist. Because it just isnt enough. Is not like northam is a big burning support it hes pretty centric. Charlie he always has been. But hes gone off the reservation with this particular campaign. The idea, theres a lot of history in virginia. The idea that he made some comments supporting removing some of the statues and plaques and things like that, thats like a 70 30 issue in virginia. Sandra new fox news polling showed it was an issue but it was low on the priority list of issues in that state. The economy a pulled number one issue and health care. But then, when fox asked them about the monuments, 50 of them said leave them up. And its a message to both parties, get back to the issues. Get back to the economy, get back to people working. Take care of people in the way that you promised them. For government, that means getting out of the way. We will see how they react. Again, i agree that this polling is notoriously fickle and youve got such a big element of the population that has not decided that its going to make tomorrows race. Katie a lot of people are writing on this governors race tomorrow, both republicans and democrats to see how things are going to go here and a couple of months. And whether its going to affect President Trump at the National Level as well. Charlie i think its probably smart to be looking at these races and i do think ive always sort of felt like this idea that youre just going to run against donald trump, you cant beat somebody with nothing. And thats what democrats are trying to do and theyve lost a number of times already, and if they lose tomorrow with that same strategy, i think it will be devastating. Katie we will anxiously await and be covering it here on the fox news channel. Be sure to catch the Daily Briefing with dana perino. She will talk to ed gillespie about the big boat in virginia tomorrow and she will also weigh in on the mass shooting in texas. Thats right here at 2 00 p. M. Eastern. More on outnumbered in just a moment. Back on her feet. And help her feel more strength and energy in just two weeks. Yaaay the complete balanced nutrition of ensure with 9 grams of protein and 26 vitamins and minerals. Ensure. Always be you. 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