Love that about you jess see how the show goes. Diplomat and security chief heading to mexico amid reaction on both sides border Trump Administrations new immigration plan. Democrats quick to slam the measures which expand the number of people who can be detained and deported. House Minority Leader Nancy Pelosi tweeting, quote the president s plan to taser americas immigration communities does not make America Great and does not make us safe. And this from Senate Democratic leader Chuck Schumer. It is clear that the white house is setting in motion their mass deportation plan. We can all agree that violent criminals should be removed but it is outrageous and unacceptable for ice to target or arrest innocent immigration families. The White House Press secretary shawn spicer insists that is not the goal and that the administration is simply enforcing the law. Is one of the goals here mass deportation . No. The message from this white house and from the dhs is that those people who are in this country and pose a threat to our Public Safety or have committed a crime will be the first to go. Remember, everybody who is here illegally is subject to removal at any time. That is consistent with every country. Not just ours. If you are in this country in an illegal manner, then obviously there is a provision that could ensure that you be removed. Im going to start with you, jesse, there is a lot to unpack here. First and foremost Rex Tillerson meeting with the mexican president do you think that can smooth over some of our maybe a little bit of relationship issues with mexico right now. Smooth rex is going to smooth things over down south of the border. I mean, basically, this is he should tell them, you know, you guys got to get your economy back in order because everybody that wants to make money has to flee up north. Down there we wouldnt have this problem. They want to call this mass deportation. Let them. If Chuck Schumer wants to side against americans and with criminal illegal aliens, thats fine with me because President Trump is not even running against democrats. He is running against the media. This may look aggressive, what trump is doing, but it only looks aggressive compared to what obama was doing on illegal immigration and that was nothing. Those were the exact words of the federation for america immigration reform. They said there is nothing really out of the ordinary what we are doing here. Out of the ordinary compared to what the policy was under the obama administration. There was no policy. There is enforcement of the laws. They are saying expedited removed process. I dont have a problem with this. I dont understand why we are having conversations about simply enforcing the law. Why do you think people are taking it to 1 with his hysteria level. Thats what Chuck Schumer does. They are going to end catch and release at the border. If some illegal alien is arrested, they are not going to wait until he is convicted or acquitted to deport him. They are going to do it right away. Local Law Enforcement can consider immigration status when theyre roaming around. Sanctuary city defunding. Walls going up. This is normal stuff. I dont know why everyone is cry ago normal. Harris president obama has also deporting people. Those raids didnt get covered. Right. Harris we didnt see the video en masse the way we are seeing it potentially now. Thats part of the issue. And, yes, the catch and release from 2006 that george w. Bush had wiped away in name and in policy crept back during the obama years. But whats really interesting is democrats didnt want to have this discussion during the lead up to the election. They didnt want to talk about it. So the make good on that is to make it look like you really care right now with all of this outrage. But the outrage is not coming with answers. Lisa, i have a question for you, the dreamers a big campaign issue, immigration issue. Donald trump isnt going to dream act students do you think that will anger his base . He needs to start with the criminal illegal aliens. He has come down hard on illegal immigration and sort of changing at least, you know, the tone and also the direction of how illegal aliens are going to be addressed in the country but to harris point, yeah, we didnt see a day without immigrants when president obama was breaking records in deportations. More deportations than any other president in history. I actually think there is a danger in some of the hyperbole we are seeing in the left. Chris matthews made the point after the election. Chris matthews msnbc very liberal. Hillary clinton never came out against illegal immigration and it hurt her. The Democratic Party jess jess they dont want to talk about it. There is a danger politically in doing that. Let me push back where there may be some appropriate push back from democrats. When you look at the new spending thats involved with President Trumps approach here. 5,000 more Border Patrol agents. 10,000 more immigration officers. Considerably more detention space. We have been talking about the border wall is expected to be 21 billion in costs. So thats all going to have to be approved by congress. Is it appropriate that we see some push back there . Yeah. But when you put a wall up and expects expensive, youre actually going to save money in the long run because illegal immigration costs this country billions of dollars. I just want to say i have compassion for illegal aliens that come here. I would cross the border too if i was a poor mexican and i would try to work here to make money for my family. At the same time, we have to be compassionate for american citizens. Because american citizens feel the effects that illegal immigration has. There is the wage drop that occurs. There is crime that occurs. The deficits that occurs. So i think we need to Pay Attention to americans first. Harris harris if we could just talk real because this is not about being heartful or heartless. These are just the facts. Those of us who have lived in border states like texas and arizona, you know this, megan, the burden that it puts on the local schools because no one wants to say no. Now that there is this carveout. We dont know what the particulars are for the unaccompanied minors, i do think we need to know what thats going to look like. We are heart filled. Its not that we are heartless. When it comes down to dollars, whats that going to look like. One thing that President Trump is doing thats not getting much attention is creating this victims of Immigration Crime Engagement Office called voice in short. Essentially what its going to do is give a voice to the victims of criminal illegal alien activity because a lot of this information. Harris like a Kate Steinles family. Yes have been oppressed past eight years under president obama. Thats President Trumps attempt to change the dialogue and give victims a choice. Harris criticism when Kate Steinles was killed by the man deported five or six times and kept coming back into the country. President trump missed an opportunity by highlighting that issue perhaps attending her funeral. If he couldnt go that far by saying these are the ways that his administration would have fixed it. There is also people, just to put a peg on this. People go and fight for our country in iraq in order to maintain citizenship. I dont understand why there are people who get onus through immigration people are actually going and fighting for our freedom. Harris great questions. Also Big Questions over how socalled sanctuary city also react over entrepreneurships immigration guidelines. After at least two dozen have reaffirmed their status since his election. New york city mayor bill de blasio said in a statement, quote this is dramatic policy shift. And its hard evidence of the Trump Administrations interest in needlessly tearing apart families and spreading fear in immigrant communities. What we will not do is turn our nypd officers into immigration agents or our jails into holding pens, end quote. Appears to agree. And heres its warning, quote when you tell state and local police that their job is to do immigration enforcement, it translates into unwarned and illegal targeting of people because of thinks race, because of their language, and color of their skin, unquote. Does this sort of behavior behavior by the mayor of new york tread on illegality. Is he saying he is not going to enforce the law . Yeah. And they should strip the funding. They just had situation ms 13 gang member who had weapons charges. He had trespassing beefs. He was at rikers the prison here. He serves his time and ice tries to serve a detainer on this guy and de blasio lets him walk. There is a ms 13 gang banger roaming the streets of new york city. If anything happens the mayor has blood on his hand. This just happened in denver. Gang banger, he posted bail, and ice tried to hold him and the local pd said no. He lets him go. He ends up going out and killing someone. So i mean sanctuary cities are deadly. Thats what people need to remember. Lisa . President trump also said that he is going to start shaming these mayors in these sanctuary cities and putting out information to the criminal illegal aliens that are walking free in those areas which i do think is smart because part of this has been a narrative hasnt been addressed the last eight years and putting the information out there and letting the public be aware of some of this stuff. Harris we have billboards for missing children. A near terrorist among us, when you talk about ms13s for people who dont know thats commensurate. El salvadorian gang. Sheriff joe arpaio americas sheriff. Is he being sued for racial profile. There are going to be people take this though mayors, sheriffs across the country. This is still political dicey issue. And when you hear people like mayor de blasio, i find it arrogant. I pay taxes in this city. And the idea, like you said, telling this story, letting people get away with so much for so long is how we got to this point. Not enforcing our laws is how we got to the point that people want this heard agenda. Harris look politically whats happening. Look at the mayor of los angeles recently. Not even letting its citizens know its own Crime Statistics and the rise in crime that that city is seeing just to make a point saying very similarly to rahm emanuel, the city of chicago, you are safe here, protecting and supporting sanctuary city status. Harris you point to a complicating fact though, megan, and that is how do you go after these people without people of color, communities feel like theyre also being targeted, too. I think the simple answer is theyre going after criminals. Yeah. Harris if you dont check that box it doesnt matter what you believe in or skin color or any of those other things enumerated. A lot of these mayors are going to probably try to stake their political careers on fighting President Trump because then they are going to go out. Harris they are. A lot of these guys are eyeing bigger races that they are wanting to do. Run for governor, whatever it is. Running for congress, running for senate. They will say in a lot of these liberal places where they are ultimately going to be running. Im the guy that stood up to President Trump on this. And, you know, so a lot of this is going to be about politics. President trump is going to say i want my billion dollars back. Harris real quickly because we are talking about issues all immigration. We know that our secretary of state and dhs secretary are headed down to talking with political in mexico. Seconds ago. Mexico will not accept the new unilateral u. S. Immigration proposals. And will not hesitate approaching the United Nations to defend immigrants, the countrys foreign minister is saying this. Your thoughts . Well, listen, mexico has no leverage whatsoever. And then to use the u. N. As a threat against President Trump, i think thats pretty weak. I dont know what they are going to do at the u. N. Maybe have a meeting about it . There is no teeth at that place at all. Harris i think, sandra, the next question is what is this meeting going to go like . Jess jess strong first play by mexico. Rex tillerson has proven himself and he has as megan agrees, he has put a lot of confidence in trumps base. Is he doing a great job representing this administration. I dont think this meeting would be any different. Pe the mexican president s Approval Ratings is in single digits. He has to go hard and against trump. Jesse you are in our world and we are in yours. Sky is bright like union corns, glad you are here. Thank you for having me. Wow, what an endorsement. Bright like unicorns. We are awaiting a new executive order from the president. Is he expected to sign a revised version of his temporary travel ban. It is some of what we have been talking about. Whether it will pass muster with the courts is a question. And whether pure politics have poisoned the antiterror efforts. We will talk about it more. Republican lawmakers are heading back home and facing crowds of angry people that just wont let up. Are the heated town halls just knee jerk liberal backlash or is democracy really working . Is this what it looks like . Stay with us. [cheers and applause] but with added touches you cant get everywhere else, like claim free rewards. 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Why have you not signed hr 356, thats the bill to demand an independent investigation into the russian interference in our election . [cheers and applause] im going to stand for the repeal of the Affordable Care act. And i dont want any. [crowd boos] sandra senator joni ernst running into antitrump resistance in iowa. [chanting] investigate trump. Sandra President Trump tweeting the socalled angry crowds in home districts of some republicans are actually in numerous cases planned out by liberal activists, sad. But republican congressman justin omosh pushing back saying they are our fellow americans with concerns. We need to stop acting so fragile. Im proud to defend liberty and the constitution. Republican congressman david brat who faced a raucous crowd in virginia says he doesnt mind it telling reporters he is having fun. Enjoys the spirited debate as does jesse watters. It is interesting to watch this happening. Is this more of a kneejerk reaction that we are seeing from the liberal community or is there more to it than that . Jesse i think there is more to it but i love town hall drama. I love it. I dont care if its move on thats doing it or the tea party thats doing it. Its entertaining and i think all congressman should face the wrath of theirs constituents. Sandra entertaining to you but some are very emotional about it. Harris some have required security showing up. Jesse if theyre rebel rousing and a threat boot them out. I have to say there is a difference. The Tea Party Got started a year or two after obama took office. And they were protesting policies like the stimulus and the bailouts and obamacare. Now, the left is out there after one month, i dont think congress has passed anything. So i dont really know exactly what they are protesting there is a little bit of astro turf going on. Thats fine. Thats politics. Like i said, i love it. Sandra what did you make of the president s tweet, meghan the socalled angry crowds in districts of these republicans in numerous cases he says planned out by liberal activists. Meghan as jesse pointed out i have been doing town hauls all my life. I love the drama of a town hall. I think incredibly important element of our democratic process. I think leaders, if you decide to run for office and get elected, have you to face your constituents on both sides. So i dont have a problem with people going. That being said, i cant even tell you how many times move on, marijuana activists show up and say the same thing because i have been to numerous town halls and they follow. Jesse on time or late . Meghan they follow to try to get attention to get the media, to get the politicians attention. Again, its not terribly unique. But i dont have a problem with people coming out, nonviolently. Sandra i want to be looking at the Glass Half Full and saying this is our democracy at work. Lisa . Lisa i love everyone on this couch but i fundamentally disagree with everyone. Harris i havent spoken yet. Lisa im so sorry, harris. I dont see you on any town halls. I worked on capitol hill. I did everything i worked on capitol hill taking phone calls who call in to working as communication director and setting up town halls and meetings as well. I dont think there is any point in doing town halls right now. President trump is right in the sense that these groups are activating people to turn out and cause a raucous. Tom mcclintock shown at the beginning of one the tapes had a Police Escort to leave one of the events. Even president obamas old super pac is one of the groups behind organizing these meetings. You get nothing accomplished when you cant actually have a dialogue. Meghan work in communications if you know what would happen if a congressman said canceling a town hall because leftist might show you up. Meghan its antidemocratic. You want to talk about protesting. I would be right there with them if they said that town halls had to be shut down because liberals are showing up. Lisa right when you say canceling events. You do a telethon town hall reach a thousand people in the district. So many events can you do with business owners, Smaller Group events. Harris i hear all of that but part of the moth to the flame if you will for the town hall is knowing that you are doing it with your neighbors. Even if those neighbors have been brought in by box trucks, i guess. I mean however because we have seen some of that in this country, too, when we had race related problems in the midwest, people coming in from outside so on and so forth. Its part of that, i dont know, i saw one here in times square a couple days ago. Its part of that feeling that you are part of democracy. Whether its effective or not. Meghan not everyone has to agree on the couch you invited jesse watters. Jesse tax cuts. Sandra new version of President Trumps travel ban. We are now learning when the white house will likely release the new executive order. Plus, how it may differ from the original one. And, after the show, of course, you can join our live chat. Click on the overtime tab at fox news. Com outnumbered or outnumbered fnc. We are looking at all of your comments. Tweet us as well. We look at them during the show. We will see you after the show as well. Did you make that . I did. Nt. Hey, come look what lisa made. Wow. You grilled that chicken . Yup i did. Nt. Smartmade frozen meals. Real ingredients, grilled and roasted. Its like you made it. And you did. Nt. Harris first alert. We are learning President Trump is expected to sign that revised version of his original executive order on immigration. It will happen on friday. The new executive order, we are told, will target the same seven mostly muslim countries. Appearing on the first 100 day days. Senior trump policy advisor Steven Miller, author of that original travel ban, that original executive order was giving us a hint of what we can expect and flaming the courts that shot down the original measure. Watch. Its going to be supportive to the judicial ruling which didnt exist previously. These are mostly minor technical differences. Fundamentally you are still going to have the same basic policy outcome for the country. The rulings from those courts were flawed, erroneous and false. The president s actions were clearly legal and constitutional and consistent with the long standing tradition of president s in the past. Harris a lot of perplexed faces in that audience if we can just be honest. What was Steven Miller talking about . Jesse we dont know because he didnt get very specific about how this was different. Meghan do you think that was purposeful. Jesse i dont know. He didnt draft it. This reminds me in high school when you give essay and give it to the teacher. The teacher marks it up but you have to hand write it and hand it back. Same teacher is grading the essay thats what happens here. The a. G. s are going to judge shop. They will file suit once this thing comes down. It will be appealed through the west and go to the ninth circuit again and they will say its unconstitutional. Its probably going to go to the Supreme Court whether gorsuch is there or not thats going to determine whether or not its constitutional. Harris whats interesting about what you are saying, jesse is that over the weekend have seen the Washington Post the wall street journal got its hands on draft. Jesse how did that happen . Harris leak or whatever . They never denied that these documents were out there. Nobody talked about leaking or anything like that. Journalists just got their hands on them. Whats interesting is a lot of that material is ending up in what we see now. So maybe it was a trial balloon. Jesse could be the low life leakers. And they have a another trial balloon possibly when they had that draft memo out of dhs when they said they were going to use the national guard. Harris does that help . Jesse trial balloons . Harris umhuh. Jesse who knows. There is always gas coming out of washington. Harris meghan . Meghan new executive order, again, if i were working in the Trump White House i would maybe put someone else on television to talk about this. Steven miller was the original. Harris he authored it. Meghan he was. I think we can all collectively agree it wasnt a home run in the first original executive order rollout. They need politically, optically this second version of the executive order to be seemless without chaos for people to really understand the changes, whats in it, and im frustrated with some of the spokes people coming on television and speaking for President Trump. As we have discussed they are amazing people working with him. I dont understand why more of these people arent on television. Lisa i feel like too much criticism of Steven Miller maybe perhaps. He was trying to represent the administration the best he could there. But, i did look at some of his responses like when he was asked about the seven countries and obviously that could be a problem back in the courts again. But, his response was well these are the same seven that president obama came up with as well. Rather than explaining why these are the seven countries that is going to be affected by this immigration ban. Harris so whats your take on that . Sandra i think they have to have a better explanation and going back to meghans point better representation of this. Meghan they have amazing people. We all collect tialy know people that are working for President Trump that are incredible on television. I dont understand why the same group of people are just being utilized over and over again. Harris one thing i would say about President Trump and his entire team that we learned leading up to the election was there are no mistakes in terms of how he wants to communicate something. There must be something in the mix here that he considers to be working, perhaps. Lisa i think its actually a positive that they experience this sort of set back early on. I mean, it was not even a home run. It was a disaster, right . The rollout was a disaster. They got hit really hard. Harris the president says it was perfect. Lisa it was not well executed. And you look at voters on this. And voters plurality of voters are with the president s viewing on this as a National Security issue. Do you yourself harm when you have such a sloppy rollout as they did. And not having a carveout for the green card holders really gave opponents political fodder as well as the courts as well. Now thats being used against them on something if you looked before the executive order was rolled out a plurality of voters were with him on this. Plurality of voters viewed this as a National Security issue. So when have you a messup like, this it hurts the. Harris you know fix is everything, results. We will see on friday exactly whats in it. Republicans are now reportedly pushing to make senator Elizabeth Warren of massachusetts the new face of the Democratic Party. Believing her brand of liberal politics will be a turnoff to many voters in next years mid terms. But could the strategy back fire on them . And Top Senate DemocratChuck Schumer predicting republican also soon break with President Trump. Is that just Wishful Thinking or should the white house be concerned . Well talk about it. Stay with us. My moderate to severe crohns disease. I didnt think there was anything else to talk about. But then i realized there was. 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A couple of things we anticipate that the press secretary shawn spicer will be asked about is that new breaking information that mexicos foreign minister says that nation will not accept the new u. S. Immigration proposals, speaking ahead of the visit by our secretaries of state and dhs secretary. And then we fully anticipate that he will be asked about the particulars of this new executive order on immigration and so on and so forth to come out. So we eve we are watch for thato begin. We will take you there live when it does. Meghan . Meghan buy prediction from Senate Minority leader Chuck Schumer he says split with President Trump soon unless the white house changes course, watch. When you talk to republicans quietly, you know, in the cloak room, in the gym, they are having real problems with him. Umhuh. Now very few, john mccain to his credit, but very few have had the courage to oppose him, even though they know he is doing a lot of things that are against what america is all about. My prediction is he keeps up on this path, which is likely, i dont think he will change. Umhuh. Within three or four months you will see a whole lot of republicans breaking with him. I hope. So. Thats the salvage of america. That is the hope of america. Meghan herman cain says while some republican lawmakers may not be in lock step with President Trumps agenda, they need to get behind him or get out of the way. The reason that they may not get it across the finish line is because of, as you know, political head wind. Thats the part. Now political head wind. I dont have any excuses, her man. The political head winds arent just coming from democrats. Some of it is coming from republicans. Shaw any republican that doesnt support it they have to go home. Keep their feet to the fire. Meghan First Respond to what Chuck Schumer said. Jesse i cant believe how far the view has gone down hill when they have Chuck Schumer as a guest thats a ratings disaster. Image of Chuck Schumer talking about being in the locker room and the gym with like a towel like come on, chuck, i havent even eaten lunch yet. What he said was i actually kind of agree with. Because the republican senators are so scared of the mainstream media. And the minute theres a problem, they are going to run for the hills. They abandoned trump during the primary. They abandoned trump during the general. We all remember. So when something happens, you dont want these guys in the fox hole. So i think trump really has to watch his back. Lisa there are schisms in the Republican Party without trump. Look whats happening with tax reform and border adjustment tax that paul ryan has been pushing for tax reform. People like senator tom cotton going to the floor saying absolutely not. Even john cornyn, sorry, the Majority Whip John Cornyn has spoken out against the border adjustment tax as well. Trump has said that the border adjustment tax is too complicated. Its not just with President Trumps ideas there is schism and disagreement. Policies at largess jess those are disagreements that take place on the senate floor. If you are a republican in a senate or house situation, the best way to get booked on a sunday show now is to criticize President Trump. These guys are are all narcissists. They will take a shot at the president. Meghan i have a problem with lieding politician hoping and wishing against the success of america. I know it sounds a bit naive and its politics as usual, but its its difficult to sort of watch that Chuck Schumer just saying you know they are all going to turn against him in the next couple months. He just got in office. We have a long haul. We have another four years to go here. Harris its deplete of ideas. Thats the biggest problems for democrats. We saw senator mitch mcconnell. He didnt like president obama. He said he wanted, to you know, shorten his term to a oneterm president so on and so forth. When it came to fighting for policies, you didnt see republicans walk away from the negotiating table. You didnt see them boycott an inauguration. You didnt see these certain behaviors and im not saying that it has never happened and that it wont happen again, but its happening now deplete of ideas. So Chuck Schumer, i would ask, what is your idea on some of these things . Meghan its the only card he has to play. There is always an arrogance with democrats if you have any criticism of anything within the Republican Party in foreclosure policy wise have been very open about my skepticism regarding donald trump and his relationship with vladimir putin. But that doesnt mean automatically you are a left wing radical democrat like Chuck Schumer. So i think there is innate misunderstanding of the nuances within the Republican Party. The Republican Party isnt a singular apparatus. Historically there have always been many factions. Of the idea now in 2017 we would all unite collectively for donald trump who, by the way, isnt a traditional conservative or a traditional republican i think is naive. All politics on Chuck Schumers part. Harris the president gets it because he felt the push back all election season long from establishment republicans. Look who he just picked to be his National Security advisor general mcmaster who may or may not agree on a lot of things about the president s foreign policy. Sandra did you see marthas town hall how many are happy with the way things are going 95 raised their hands. Got to be careful how are talking too. Lisa wants to jump in. Lisa but im not. Sandra mean tile president obama and republicans are aiming to make senator Elizabeth Warren the new face of the Democratic Party and next years and next years midterms and that strategist think opposition to warren will motivate conservative donors and get republicans out to the polls. The article saying quote party strategists believe the liberal massachusetts senators brand of politics is a serious turnoff to voters outside the coast. And will be a liability for at least five democrats up for reelection in states President Donald Trump easily won. G. O. P. Senate group is also releasing digital ads today linking incumbent democrats to warren. Senate minority leader once again Chuck Schumer today predicting the effort to make warren the face of the Democratic Party will not be successful. All right. Jesse watters, your reaction to that. More Chuck Schumer. Jesse as much as it pains me to say this, i do have respect for Elizabeth Warren. She cat and moused me one time when i was trying to track her down with a camera. You have got to respect the hustle there. She goes after the jugular. You enjoy that. Jesse goes after President Trump. Very sharptouched got to give her respect for that this is fine. Go after her. Shows how weak the bench is with the democrats. Pelosi and schumer probably jealous they are not the face of the smear campaign. Thats fine. She is going to run for president. We all know that if you are republican smear her now early before she kind of gets my. Meghan it does appear they are making her the face of the party. Lisa im split on this. For 2018 it could damage the Democratic Party to make Elizabeth Warren the face of the party if you are looking at the map specifically for the senate. There are 10 senate seats where President Trump won five. He won by double digits. I think in the shortterm it could hurt the Democratic Party. Looking at 2020 im not necessarily unconvinced that her policies and her populist rhetoric wouldnt sell to the American People. So i worry about 2020. I think her overall demeanor in who she is and how she represents herself would not be well received by the public. Just look at the way she talks. Look at her overall presentation. I know that sounds mean but Hillary Clinton faced the same problem in the sense of people didnt like her personally. And i think sandra looking at the White House Press briefing right now. It is expected to guinea moment now. We will go live when it begins there be new reaction on sean spicer he will be taking questions. We will go to that live when it happens. Harris . Harris what i was going to say republicans have to be careful here. Remember, one the things that really elevated donald trump as the candidate very early on was having the current president constantly allude to or say his name daily at one point. And so its interesting. Because if the republicans get too involved in going after Elizabeth Warren they elevate her stature to the point remember she may or may not win her current state again. If you give it oxygen, you may raise her to the point where you have to fight her. And its just an interesting, maybe Lesson Learned from the last election. It worked in republicans favor to have a sitting president elevate donald trump. We talked about it on the couch. Why does president obama keep saying his name . Elizabeth warren is as you just noted, she is not even doing well in her own home state. I actually think the myth of Elizabeth Warren doesnt go very far. I, like lisa. Lisa thank you. Sandra i like lisa, too. Meghan like you said there is this tang joint exhibit with politicians that you cant always put your finger on that i disagree with joe biden enormously. I love him and want to drink beer with him. If Elizabeth Warren were in there i would find a way not to be in the room with her. I find her grating, i find her very extreme. I think lisa makes a great point its the same problem that Hillary Clinton faced. This is not about gender. Its simply about being a good politician. If you see her on any kind of mass scale, just deeply iniunimpressive. Sandra we are awaiting the white house briefing. You are looking live at the podium where Shaw Sean Spicer will be stepping up to take questions from reporters. We will bring you when that happens. Well be right back. Potato farr and i finally found our big idaho potato truck. Its been touring the country telling folks about our heart healthy idaho potatoes, americas favorite potatoes, and donating to local charities along the way. But now its finally back home where it belongs. Aw man. Hey, wait up. Where you goin . Here we go again. The full value of your totaled new car. The guy says, you picked the wrong insurance plan. No, i picked the wrong insurance company. With new car replacement™, well replace the full value of your car plus depreciation. Liberty mutual insurance. Sandra President Trump meeting with treasury and budget officials at the white house. Lets listen. He loves those budgets. Unfortunately the budget that were inheriting essentially inheriting is a mess. The finances of our country are a mess. But were going to clean them up. Things that we have been doing, including negotiating deals that have already been negotiated so you call it renegotiating on airplanes and lots of other things, military items, well end up getting more planes free or save a lot of money. But we have already saved a lot. Billions and billions of dollars we have saved. We have enormous work to do as the National Debt doubled over the last 8 years. Our debt has doubled over a short period of time. I want the American People to know that our budget will reflect their priorities. We will be directing all of our departments and agencies to protect every last american and every last tax dollar. No more wasted money. Were going to be spending the money in a very, very careful manner. Our moral duty to taxpayer requires us to make our government leaner and more accountable. We must do a lot more with less. And we must stop the improper payments and the abuses, negotiate better prices and look for every last dollar of saving. We have already imposed hiring freezes on nonessential government workers and part of our commitment is to continue to do that for the american taxpayer. We have appointed a cabinet that knows how to manage dollars wisely. I have known many of the folks for a long time. They have been tremendous winners. Whether its steve or gary or another steve right here. And thats why i will direct them to manage the countrys dollars and your dollars very wisely. We wont let your money be wasted anymore. Were going to run government smoothly, fixturely, and on behalf of the very hardworking taxpayers. Something that the taxpayers havent seen in a long time. I will be holding everybody accountability for that and i have no doubt that this group in particular this group will do a fantastic job. I want to congratulate Steve Mnuchin as our new secretary of the treasury. He is going to be outstanding. Tremendous track record. He has a tremendous track record. I have great confidence in him. So were going to continue on andere going to take this budget, which is in all fairness, i have only been here for four weeks so i cant take too much of the blame for whats happened, but it is absolutely out of control. And were going to do things that are going to be tremendous over the years. We have to take care of our military. We have no choice. We have to take care of our military. It needs work. Its very depleted. And we have to take care of a lot of other things. Healthcare is moving along nicely. Its being put in to final forms. As you know, before we do the tax, which is actually very well finalized, but we cant submit it until the healthcare statutorily or otherwise so were doing the healthcare moving along very well. Sometime in the month of march maybe. Mid to early march we will be submitting something that i think people will be very impressed by. And with that, were going to have a little meeting and i think the press knows pretty much all of the people at the table so thank you very much. Sandra that was President Donald Trump meeting with officials over lunch. Steve bannon, gary kushner, Steven Mnuchin. Mcmulvaney he congratulated both of them on their nominations. Also track record. He did make a couple of announcements he said he will submit something on healthcare in mid to early march. The president saying the finances of this country are a mess. And he plans to look to save every last dollar. Jesse i will open it up to you. Looking at the paperwork showed our country is in a fiscal hole. We have never seen before. We have the previous president who doubled the National Debt. So i would be pretty down in the dumps, too if i was looking at that paperwork. Sandra let me remind you that as this meeting was taking place the u. S. Stock market continues to make record after record. It is up again today. Just 22 points but were looking at another record for the dow. Meghan i thought it was most interesting that he said early to mid march we are going to get healthcare started. I can only assume thats repealing of obamacare. Thats pretty soon. End of february right now. So certainly interested to see how sandra lisa, you said the government knees to get leaner and have more accountability. We have appointed a cabinet that needs to know how to imagine dollars wisely. Lisa 1,000 percent. Earlier segment splits in the Republican Party. This is a way to speak to a lot of those deficit hawks who have been talking about cutting spending for a really long time. Thats something that he does that will appeal to. Sandra much more. That press briefing expected to be underway any moment now. We will bring it to you live when that happens. This is outnumbered and well be right back. The awardwinning geico app. Download it today. Everything your family touches sticks with them. Make sure the germs they bring home dont stick around. Use clorox disinfecting products. Because no one kills germs better than clorox. Press secretary spicer for both people of mexico and the United States by combating drug traffickers and finding ways to bolster both our economies through a broader relationship as far as commerce and legal immigration. This is a very encouraging start to a working relationship with an incredible neighbor to the south. At this moment, the president has a just wrapped up his discussions on the federal budget with some of the officials and staff who will be instrumental in the work we put the country back on everest possibly fiscal path. Joining the meetings were reince preibus, stephen bannon, jared kushner, gary cohn, secretary Steven Mnuchin at the department of the treasury, director Mick Mulvaney at the office of management and budget, and emma doyle of the office of management and better 8 budget. As the president mentioned, we look forward to prepending our tax reform plan and providing muchneeded tax reform and relief to the hardworking men and women of our nation. The president is going to restore in respect the american taxpayer by enabling them to keep more of their hard earned money and by making sure that the federal government spends money more responsibly. After the lunch, the president will continue this important discussion with other members of senior staff. Additionally, the Vice President is in st. Louis to participate in listening sessions with American Workers in employees of the cat equipment and engineer dealer, 100yearold familyowned and operated business. During his visit, the Vice President will discuss the economic comeback in store for our nation under the president s economic agenda and with Small Business owners and employees. The president has already made strides toward slashing redundant regulations through his executive actions, and we will work with congress to enact further legislation paired back to the president s schedule, later this afternoon, the president will present my participate in a state legislative affair strategy session. Our team is in Constant Contact with our counterpart on the hill keeping an open dialogue on all aspects of the president s agenda. Last week alone, more than 40 different senator and Congress Members visited the white house. On the Supreme Court front, so far, judge neil gorsuch has met with 58 senators, 36 republicans in 22 democrats, and he has more meetings on the books for next week when the Senate Returns to session. We have been especially encouraged by the reception he has received from several senior democrats including senators feinstein, castor, durbin angela brann. Also on the confirmation front, multiple unions came out today for alex acosta, the president s nominee for labor secretary. Both the Labor International union of america and the International Union of operating engineers praised his distinguished career and pledged their support for his nomination. The legislative affairs team is using the congressional work period to coordinate with key coalitions in congress. They are meeting with different groups in the house and senate including the staff of the congressional black caucus, house and Senate Leadership and staff throughout various committees. We view this work period as an opportunity to invite staffers from both sides of the aisle to come to that white house and discussed shared priorities and find Common Ground on the way forward. We are not just reaching out to cup my capitol hill, we have engaged with key leaders and policymakers around the country. It is critical for the initiation to gather input from the states, people throughout the country rather than just leaders here in washington. Looking ahead to tomorrow, the president will meet with a group of worldclass Business Leaders to discuss specific action he can take to remove barriers to job creation. These leaders, many of whom represent some of the countrys largest manufacturers, will begin the date and working groups with the Vice President , cabinet members and key aides of the president staff. The working group will engage in a deep diving conversation on the attendees specific area of expertise peer topics of discussion include deregulation, tax and trade, trainin