Shannon and i will be back in an hour. Outnumbered starts right now. This is outnumbered. Here with us today and todays hashtag one lucky guy, tv personality and veterans advocate, montel williams. Hes back and outnumbered. Welcome back. Good to be back. Its great to see you. You guys have been firing up every day. As much as i can catch you, i catch you. Thats nice. Thats great. I want to make sure im prepared if you ever did ask me back. Thats what i said last time, too. Just a couple of weeks ago with the release of sergeant and montel, you played a huge role on that and i think on behalf of everyone in the studio, thank you. Thanks to all the fox viewers. Were it not for you guys putting extra pressure on and believe me, the Mexican Government understood that. Lawyers involved understood that but i just talked to andrew yesterday. This story is not over and i have to make sure america remembers, theres another 2,000, 3,000 andrews. They may not have been in jail but theyre suffering. This young man is diagnosed with combat ptsd and now he truly is thats Stockholm Syndrome and we havent had anybody treated for that in this country for 25 years. This man is sitting in limbo right now. I talked to him yesterday and im trying to talk to him every day. A lot of marines are sending hope and help and were trying to reach out to different the c. I. A. Report despite word from a phone call from Secretary Of State john kerry to hold off. John kerry warning this is going to jeopardize men and women in the field now as well as relationships that we have with our allies. Is this intelligence and this alleged torture tactic getting out . Rock and a hard place. So sorry. This whole country is in between a rock and a hard place on this issue. We have to remember that we signed on to treaties years and years ago that said we wouldnt do certain things. Im not going to argue whether they were done or they werent. What im going to say is right now, were sitting in a position where even administration, when we come back to the central issue, that central issue is, had this never happened, we wouldnt have to worry about releasing reports. Lets just say one thing about this. Those who would give up central liberty to purchase a little temporary safety deserve neither liberty nor safety. Thats benjamin franklin. In the last hour we talked about the fact they puts people in imminent danger and that to him as someone who has been there, who has been in the field, who is so respected, that is illogical. It makes no sense. Its hard to ignore that opinion. Ive been in the field, too. These techniques have been stopped, these are techniques allegedly used in the Bush Administration so why now if theyve been stopped . I have some questions about that. I want to go straight to senator dianne feinstein, though, because shes exiting her role as the chairperson of the Intel Committee as you mentioned. It isnt just getting the report out. Shes pushed against the white house because they wanted to redact 15 of it. She wants people to see what she had to say on the reported. I would ask, is this personal . Why the timing now . The other part of this, though, and you talk about the general that i spoke to this morning. He said they didnt talk to one person who was doing the interrogating about this report. If they put it out there and it endangers us, is it worth it if it might not be as fact ral as it could be . Brit hume called the timing of this inhe c ehe ca ehe ca eh inexplicable. They could be trying to get this off her desk or changing the narrative. The last time democrats were screaming about this, they were winning elections. They defeated tom delays electoral map to take the house with this exact discussion. Are they trying to return to that . I think so and i think the fear is that if its delayed and shes no longer heading the committee, is this dropped altogether and then will she be held accountable by some members of community that you didnt handle this correctly . This is a promise, remember, barack obama has been talking about it for a long time. My key point is the Justice Department investigated this. They found no criminal charges. They filed no criminal charges. Why are they doing this now . And the issue here, people keep saying this is the wrong time. They should delay this. When is it a good time to release it . Never going to be a good time. Look in the 1970s. I talked to k. T. Mc far mand mc farland right now. You had a similar situation and you also gutted the c. I. A. Such that in the 1980s for the first time, we saw people plotting in caves against us, ala al qaeda. Her big question is not only about timing but when would a good time ever be . I remember one of the first things administration did when President Obama came into office was pursue legal action for techniques. This is a return to that even though the techniques had been stopped. It makes you wonder, why now . United states has transferred six Guantanamo Bay detainees to uruguay. This is the largest grup to leave the prison since 2009 and the first to be resettled in south america. Group includes four syrians, one palestinian and one tunisian. That brings the number of prisoners now hit at gtmo down to 136. Once administration gets that number below 100, its believed the president will push to bring the remaining detainees to a u. S. Facility. I want to go on this one. This is a little different than what we saw with the birdall transfer. This is a release. Former federal prosecutor was on earlier and he said theres no preconditions with this one. Not like in qatar where they have to watch the detainees. They are free to go today, the he wants to make sure they understand at the end of this, he wants to get stuff done that he promised initially and he wasnt forgetting about them. I would take it a further step than that. It wasnt just a campaign promise. First week of his presidency in 2009 he signed an Executive Order to make this happen. So it was more than just i might get it done. I am going to get this done. Its 2014, almost the next year. 2015. It still hasnt been done yet. So my question, is this a Slippery Slope . Are we looking at a situation where hes going to expedite the closing of gtmo and then how do we hold the other countries responsible and accountable for when these guys leave their soil and go do horrible things . And we get rid of the most dangerous. That was the concern with the birdall flop. They got rid of the most dangerous ones. You can almost justify, the really dangerous ones are out of there. Low level offenders are not as big of a deal. No preconditions. They can walk today. Why send them to a country that cant at least keep them on house arrest or monitor them . Not saying qatarg to do a great job but i have no idea why the president thought he could do this. I get what youre saying by attempting to close this. Its impossible for him to close Guantanamo Bay in the next two years. Its not going to get done. Here are six people they put back out in the field to go back to work. Right. And theyll be heros when they return. With regard to other countries watching, if we couldnt keep up with the brothers who, you know, suspected of pulling off the boston bombing, if we couldnt do that on our own soil and we have an n. S. A. That it practically look at each naval on the couch, if we cant do it, why do we expect other countries to . It will be easier for him to end it if he doesnt acknowledge what theyre doing. New questions about an Explosion Ive article on roll stone magazine that sparked demonstrations on one college camp us and shut down the greek system. Now the magazine is apologizing for the story but how did the Mainstream Media get duped so easily . And youve seen the protests in response to the recent grand Jury Decisions of the police killings. The law school is now allowing students to postpone their final exams if they feel traumatized by what happened. And right after the show, catch more from the couch on the web. Join us for the famous Outnumbered Overtime by logging on to fox news. Com o news. Com outnumber news. Com outnumbered. Comments, anything you would like to hear more about. Fox news. Com. Out for a bike rid before you begin an aspirin regimen. Thats the way i look at life. Looking for something better. Especially now that i live with a higher risk of stroke due to afib, a type of irregular heartbeat, not caused by a heart valve problem. 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Those three Important Reasons are why eliquis is a better find for me. Ask your doctor today if eliquis is right for you. Information, theres discrepancy in the account and weve come to the conclusion that the trust in her was misplaced. That sparked outrage from activists saying the magazine was blaming the victim. Then Rolling Stone said given all the reports, however, weve come to the conclusion we were mistaken in jackies request to not contact the university. Meantime, groups representing frats and sororities, urging u. V. A. To end the suspension of greek organizations saying its hurt the reputation of students who had nothing to do with the allegations. This story has been incredible to me. How they released this without investigating it properly is beyond me. Thats a whole other conversation about journalist. But at this point, the apology, which theyve just changed, is this enough . They originally blamed the victim and now theyre saying its our fault. Rolling stone was had. They were had. Big time. Theyre a mess. Theyre an absolute mess. We talked about the death of legitimate journalism on this couch. This is evidence of that. What Rolling Stone did by essentially being lazy and all too quick to jump to push this narrative of rape Culture Forward is it turned rape on a serious the worse thing a woman could go through into a national joke and trivialized this. I think this reporter, sabrina, should be fired immediately and never aa Aa Neverallowed to write again. The Washington Post said two of her friends were not consulted. They didnt even bother talking to the friends. The friends were asked last night if that was their account and they said, no. Thats not what we said. What about the editors . Where were the editors . Ive been a journalist for a long time. You never run a one source story. That was just incredible to me, especially on something so serious that is going to cause so much reaction. You know, if the reporter was sucked in and didnt want to check the sources, there should have been several editors saying if were going to put the name of our may go sglen on the line and our reputation, we have to at least talk to the other side. I mean, this is honestly unheard of in journalism. I want to talk about the effect of this on Sexual Assault victims around the country. Will this make them less likely to speak out or what is the effect on them . This is a problem that exists around the country. This is a real scary problem. We want people to feel comfortable coming forward. The fact were asking a question, theres some woman sitting at home, if something happened to her last night, shes going, im not going to pick up the phone. Somebodys daughter feels that way right now listening to this discussion right here. Now were not judging the victim but judging whether or not the victim was telling the truth or whether or not im not commenting on what were talking about. Im just selling you, theres a girl at home who heard this conversation and said im not going to say a word to anybody. And now she suffers in silence. What do we do . Maybe change the narrative from one of whether or not, you know, Rolling Stone they got it wrong. They were wrong. And the public should let them know by not buying the may gazm. Any young lady out here right now today, even listening to this conversation right here among four women, if you were abused yesterday, you have the right to come forward. Skip the news report. Go see somebody. Go to the police. Lets also talk about the fact that its 2014, maybe 2015 and we still allow police departments, municipalities called university polices, Police Officers to investigate these crimes on campuses. These are people some of these people dont even have a job, have been university Police Officers for 15 years and thats the person who is going to investigate the rape of your daughter . Never been in the field . I think a lot of these universities take this issue very seriously. A lot of them dont take it as seriously as they should. I think they feel a very, very huge amount of pressure from the white house and this administration to take it seriously and i think schools like u. V. A. To think that they did nothing about this. If the story was true, which its not. Im not going to the story. I dont think theres women saying theyre not going to come forward because of the conversation were having right now. No. I disagree. I think Rolling Stone put someone out there who didnt have a credible story. Its Rolling Stones fault that someone at home is having second thoughts about this. If youre going to come forward, you should come forward and you shoulding telling the whole truth and nothing but the truth. What about the university here and what about these fraternities that have been tarnished that are saying we did nothing wrong and now were labelled as x, y and z . What should they be doing . Right now theyre trying to get a repeal on the moratorium on them. They havent been able to operate as they had been before the article came out. Theyre appealing the process with the university so ive read as of yesterday, it hadnt been revolved yet so they could open their doors on the way they usually operate. A couple of things come to mind about this whole thing with the journalistic end of it. This young woman according to the two friends you mentioned and others that theyve since talked about because the Washington Post now talked with people, have said something happened that night and it may not have been the way that jackie said it did but they witnessed a change in her, that something happened. And that is my concern. That throughout this whole process, because Rolling Stone didnt do its due diligence, they didnt get to the truth. Maybe she just simply couldnt tell it. Maybe she was bad at telling it. She was drunk that night. Whatever the situation is. But they fell down in two counts. Not just in journalism but they let her down, too. The hope is that someone will get to the true story and it wont deter anyone who is suffer to go come forward. Rolling stone is now fiction. You can categorize in the fiction section at libraries. Protests not to indict white Police Officers in the deaths of black men turning violent over the weekend and it comes as a new poll think that relations between white and black communities have gotten worse since President Obama was elected. Is it really his fault . Speaking of the grnd Jury Decisions, one of the top law schools in america letting students delay their finals if theyre suffering, quote, trauma from all of this. Is that any way to treat future lawyers, columbia . Youre driving along, switch to Liberty Mutual insurance and you could save up to 423 dollars. Call Liberty Mutual for a free quote today at see Car Insurance in a whole new light. Liberty mutual insurance. California, Police Firing tear gas after they say protestors threw rocks and bottles at them. President obama addressed racism during his weekly address. Watch. This something that is deeply rooted in our society, in our history but the two things that are going to allow us to solve it, number one, is the understanding that we have made progress and so its important to recognize as painful as these incidents are, we cant equate Whats Happening now to what was happening 50 years ago. And from that interview, we go to this. A new poll finding 53 of adults say Race Relations have gotten worse since president Obama Took Office in 2009. Its worth noting, 45 of blacks agreed with what youre looking at there. I want to go to you first. I really have one overarching question. Weve moved weeks beyond the first non indictment, Grand Jury Non Indictment that was ferguson, missouri and now weve had a second here in New York City but were talking days from that. What do people in the streets want . If you look at what happened in berkeley and oakland, those people werent even out there because of this issue. Lights start to get ba to where we should probably attempt to do this for the first time in reality in this country and have a real discussion about race. We dont do it. We keep pointing at our directions, believing our people and making sure that you have to be wrong and you have to be wrong. We cant even stop for a second and have a discussion. Until we do, this is going to happen. Its going to get worse. Again, this was occupy. Remember, lets look at the faces. Zoom in a little bit. About three weeks ago in ferguson, you saw a majority of black faces. Now you see multi ethnic, multi facial. So again, the discussion is not about are we more racist today than yesterday . Do we hate more black people today than yesterday . Why dont we have a discussion about whats the problem . And discuss it. I think one of the bigs big problems is financial. It has to do with the Federal Reserve policy. The main thing thats increased has been the stock market. Thats obl benefitted people who are wealthy enough to invest there. I think that the income gap has widened dramatically. This is what im talking about. This is excuse. We will not talk about the problem. You dont think money is part of the problem . No. Look. If money is the problem, how about the fact right now we have over 53 of congress that are millionaires plus and 28 are multi millionaires and 15 years ago we didnt have that. So whats going on in despairity in this country, maybe the people passing some laws dont give a damn about the people no matter what color they are. I think were making the same point. I dont think we were disagreeing there. Lets talk race. Race is the problem. In this country right now today, there are certain cities where blacks stand a chance of being incarcerated at 100 times more than any other race. In this city alone. You bring up the point, though, and its you dont think thats financially motivated either . You dont think its about people trying to make money . Money drives all these things. Its just a game. Seems like the only time we talk about this is when people are rioting in the streets. Correct. Something right now the narrative has become, how many buildings are they going to burn rather than lets get back to the actual thing. If people are upset about the court system in the country, i dont hear anybody talking about that. The problem is when i was in the midst of these protests in new york, though, what i saw from a lot of people, people taking selfies, people partying. There was a segment of the population that protest just to protest and arent really interested in having a discussion. Its easy to blame President Obama for this but its not his fault. This is a community based problem. It has to start at the dinner table, among families. Disrespe theres the word. Family. The breakdown of the family. This is not something thats just in the black community. The breakdown of the American Family among whites, hispanics, go down the list. And i do agree with you on the money perspective but i think family and the breakdown of family is a huge part of a lot of this. Thats a huge issue. As long as we dont talk about the issue, it wont get solved. Well shift over to the alma mater. Columbia university is allowing its Law School Students to postpone their final exam if they feel like theyre taum tied by the eric garner and Michael Brown shootings. It may be too much for them to bear. Im dying here z. We have arranged to have a Trauma Specialist next monday and wednesday for anyone interested in participating to discuss the trauma that recent events may have caused. Students who feel their performance on examinations will be sufficiently impaired due to the recent events may have a petition to have their examinations rescheduled. Are you okay . I can see me walking up to my professor right now and saying, sir, last week a crane broke in the middle of the street and i cant study for my exam right now because i dont understand why that crane broke. Im trying to do the math and im so traumatized. Are you kidding me . I think that makes more sense. They are claiming theyre going to build high powered attorneys out of this program. What lesson are they teaching kids at this level that you can cry if you dont like a decision . Drop out and major basket weaving. Dont defend me in court. I want to go back to something melissa said. It isnt white, black, brown. Its grown. The despairity in wealth and creating jobs is a big issue here. I would challenge the universities, rather than letting the kids off the hook, have them a way to create jobs in this country and give extra credit for the exams they want to miss. If youre a parent as well, wouldnt you be ticked off . Youre paying like 60,000 a year to go to columbia and your kid is given a break. If anything, that f that were my major, i would be more empassioned. I would be more ready to go. Turn my life over to you. And to your point, harris, be a little creative in youre a professor. Go to the constructive end of semester final exam. Isnt this why you get into law . Because you want to go out there and forge ahead and make the right thing happen, whatever side you believe in this . It should make you want to get in there and dig deeper. Not take a break because youre traumatized. 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If people want to have a go ahead time and you deal with extra traffic, its the christmas season. Smile and be gritful. A lot of people are driving around and around and around this house. The neighbors dont like t. Police came up and set up a line so you have to walk to see it. Then the family shoots back and they say, what about the disabled . What about people in wheelchairs . Facebook some people are saying bah humbug. You should do with the cry baby neighbors instead. Somebody else said, again, move in next to these people and watch strange men pee on your lawn. Hello. Whoa. There always was that house and i remember growing up, i remember the house and we always used to drive by it and it reminds me a lot of bob bickells house. He does thousands and thousands of lights and because hes bob its hard for me to remember. I cant imagine people i was there. There are no facilities outside. Thats the problem. No bathrooms. I was right with you until you mentioned the bushes. I can feel for the neighbors. This is like the griswolds, though. How much does it cost to light that . I tried to look into it. Because they have 200,000 light bulbs. Its got to cost a fortune but they made a lot of money because its been featured on various shows. Do they charge . I dont think they charge. They let people in but theyve made a lot of money off shows and other things. Online somebody said, what does a ferris wheel have to do with christmas . Why not . I think they have it in the north pole. I saw it on the north pole movies. Theres always like teddy bears and stuff going around. I watched the movie. Think about this, though. People next door, you have guys standing in the bushes. Maybe it can be set up for certain hours. How about a viewing stand . I dont know. Also concerns i remember back in our how many town that around the lights, people would smoke marijuana and drive by. All kinds of great christmas traditions. Thank you for that, andrea. The expiration dates on happy marriages may be happier than you think. Why the Seven Year Itch is revised upwards. Uhoh. Heres some news you may find surprising. Another record high. Today a bit of backsliding and new revelations about the giant hack attack on sony. Dow is such a flirt. It is. Jon scott, good to see you. Thanks, harris. I may be outnumbered but now its my turn for this story. Watch this. Marital bliss may last longer than you think. Sevenyear itch has been a popular theory since Marilyn Monroe starred in the same movie in 1955. She became the Love Interest of a married man and since then psychologists have said some women begin to hit the rocks after seven years as couples get the roving eyes. A new study finds that a 10year itch is actually closer to the truth. Im going to throw it to you guys but im in my seventh year of marriage and i couldnt be happier in my life. No itching . Not itchy in the least. Okay. One thing i liked in the study, it said that couples begin to bibbingary the 10 years but then hit a new crescendo at 15 years. Ive been marry 15d years because i got married when i was 12 and so i was like, rock on. Ive made it. Like im through to the other side. There you go. 10 years, is that when stress comes to hit . You have some munchkins running around, youre saving for college, working, have daycare, im wondering if thats 10 years of all thats precious. Well be in the 12th in april. When we hit the 10th year, its like with your body every 10 years, you do a reassessment of the things that are working, not working and i think marriage is the same way. Theres decade points when you really start to take stock of whats working and whats not. If you love each other, you work on those things. If not, just take separate vacations. Now the body analogy, i keep thinking about the body and how it gets sage and wrinkly. What are you talking about . You have to work at it. Marriage spanx. There we go. Andrea, we have come up with something. Marriage spanx. Patent office . Its christmas time. How about we help everybody how to make their relationships a little better right now. I have a tip for you. Write this on the refrigerators today and before you discuss, you have a conversation with your discuss, read these lines. Speak without offending and the second one is listening without defending. If you have a conversation, getting ready to happen over the holidays, grab your spouse by the hand, walk to the kitchen, look at the card and go, okay. Speak without offending. Listen without defending. That can defuse any kind of argument because you never point anybody out. I want to build on your theme. My husband always says never email before breakfast. I have low blood sugar. If theres a contractor or somebody that needs to be talked to, he says please email phil before breakfast. I know what that means. But i have to have coffee and a Little Something in my stomach before i can speak without offending. For good marriages . Or relation shis. Are you married . No. But im saying shes like not after this im not. People get itchy after a year, two years. Are you asking if i have a saying . Yeah. Do you know what rhymes with friday . Vodka. Thats whats on my refrigerator. Goodness. I guess i could help that. That helps. Back to the theory, montel, some have a theory you change so much. Im not the same person i was when i was 20. You look the same. Thank you. Youre a very kind woman. You also need glasses. What about the theory that says longivity is not possible . Its not realistic because partners change so much. Try to embrace the change rather than look at it as something thats offensive to your relationship. I embrace every change my wife has and im lacking forward to the ones shes going to have five years from now. Hollywood romance movie. Its about the first couple. Their first date. 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