Unafraid. No online show tonight. Kimberly guilfoyle in for greta goes on the record right now. This is a fox news alert. Just moments ago fox confirming the shooter in todays rampage is a convert to islam. Chaotic scene playing out in canadas capitol city. New fears the deadly shooting spree could be terrorism. [gunfire] that dramatic scene caught on camera as dozens of shots rang out inside the Canadian Parliament building today. Hello everyone, im Kimberly Guilfoyle in for greta van susteren. Todays Violent Attacks started with a gunman shooting a canadian soldier to death after National War Memorial in ottawa. Then the running into
parliament sending government members running for their lives. That gunman was shot dead by security. And just moments ago, fox news confirming the suspect is identity. He is 32yearold michael gabo. And officials believe is he a canadian convert to islam. We have Live Team Coverage from canada to washington, d. C. We begin with fox news chief intelligence correspondent Catherine Herridge. Catherine . Kimberly, within the house hour Government Official confirming to fox news investigators believe the suspects real name is Michael Joseph hall and u. S. Agencies have been advised the shooter was believed to be a convert to islam Counter Terrorism investigators is reviewing his social media traffic and re. To the attack on two canadian soldiers in quebec monday. Tonight, we are told nothing has been found, but the investigation is ongoing. This information about the shooters identity was shared earlier today and in
Law Enforcement bulletin portions were obtained by fox news. And were also learning that the secretary of Homeland Security jay johnson was given a full briefing on the shooting earlier today. An Fbi Field Office have been told to raise their level of vigilance given todays shooting and last weeks joint intelligence bulletin warning military and Law Enforcement of a spike in isis chatter calling for attacks. Separately Counter Terrorism source tells fox news that a similar pattern was scene in the five days leading up to todays incident in ottawa with a spike in chatter targeting canada after it joined the Coalition Fighting isis. There has been no claim of responsibility yet for todays shooting. Nor is there confirmation the shooter is linked to a recognized terror group. Kimberly. Catherine, people at home wondering you have some factual information there that is significant. Shooters identity being determined the fact that he is in fact convert to islam. Are we able to connect any of these dots to say this
was an unusual who was on any watch lists . Has any criminal contact . Any kind of re . Runins with Law Enforcement, someone who might have been recently inspired to do this type of attack . A great set of questions. Can i can lay out for you some of the dots that theyre trying to connect tonight. First and foremost whether there is a connection between this shooter and the incident in quebec on monday, whether there is social media traffic that can connect the men and whether they seem to be from the same track, if you will, that they both wanted to fight overseas but they were both prevented from leaving canada. In canada they have been taking away the passports of individuals they think are at high risk tore radicalization. Secondly, when you look at the data stream, what you see is since late september, early october, there has been a con sis is tent beat of threat information targeting members of the military. We were first to report here at fox news about an incident involving an air force father and his son
were were attacked sort of flash mob style by isis at the end of september. This led to bulletin, telling people in the services to reduce the number of people who can look at their social media profile also take off information that limping them to the u. S. Government or u. S. Military. Now we are told we have seen another stream targeting Law Enforcement and the u. S. Military and then something very similar playing out in canada. And tonight what we know from a Counter Terrorism source is what they are looking at a photo that has been posted online by a group purporting to be isis and saying that that is the shooter, kimberly. Again, some other twitter traffic, social media, isis trying to claim credit. We dont know if that can be verified or not. That may be a false claim. Sure. But there are significant number of data points that are connecting here, if you will to sort of create a Fertile Ground for this type of incident. But, first and foremost, for the canadians, based on a conversation with a Counter Terrorism source is whether there is any connection, electronically, between the suspect today and the individual monday. All right. They will be hot on the electronic trail to see if they can tie any of this together as it this investigation develops and bring it to it you live. Catherine, thank you. You are welcome. Most of the downtown ottawa still under lockdown because there could be more suspects on the loose. Joining us from ottawa the reporter who shot that dramatic video inside the parliament. Josh, thanks for being with us tonight. My pleasure. What you can tell us at this hour. You shot that video which is incredible. Everybody has been commenting ton. Really a harrowing scene. It was. Seems like quite a while ago now, just before 10 00 a. M. , this morning, shots broke out it was a quiet morning. This is morning when all the members of parliament are here for their motion, their caucus meetings. In other words, this is a time when you had all or nearly all of the mps in the building when there is a not a lot of times you would have that still in parliament under lockdown. Dont know when we are going to be sent home. I dont know whether that is because they think its a very fluid ongoing situation, whether there is a manhunt of some kind or whether they are trying to get statements from us, i dont know. But all i know we have been in sort of lockdown since shortly after 10 00 a. M. When all this happened. Quite a harrowing day for everyone here. Tourists. Mps, journalists in this room. A lot of people who were in the building at the time. Okay. And, you know, so crucial was that information you were able to give us, of course, experiencing live, you were a witness to this crime as it was unfolding. Tell us about the shots that you heard. Yeah. So we sort of heard two waves. Found it a little louder. Speculation this might have been a rifle. In other words, that it would be the gunman firing. Thats what sent, you know,
me and other guards and stuff running towards sort of mean, hallway where a lot of this went down it was in the rotunda. Sort of like a welcome area to the center block of Parliament Press tinge just area as can you imagine often very filled with tourists. Wasnt this particular it morning. There werent a lot of people around. Police then moved their way down whats called our hall of honor, tribute to soldiers died in afganistan. Sort of a backbone of the Parliament Building running right down the center of it at the end, its the library of parliament. They werent fired as they moved but as they sort made their way down i can only guess that the guy came out or someone came out and they opened fire firing a dozen or two dozen shots towards the library. In other words, away from me and others at the back and we saw the body on the ground and that was the first time i seen what i presumed to be the shooter. I hadnt seen him. That was the first time
you got a visual . Yeah, yeah. Heard from other people that he was seen with a long gun and that he had come in sort of the main door. There is not a metal detector or anything. Just the regular door that has a couple of guards. One more short flight of stairs. Staff, we sort of flash a path and go in and out of the building. So, we, you know, it is not exactly tightly secure door. You dont have to break through anything. Okay. So you didnt notice any heightened security measures or tactics being employed today after yesterdays hit and run incident . Mondays hit and and as you noted the candidate raised the cair warning. I had one would didnt know we had one which gives you a sense how close the attention is paid to that we dont often check on the terror warning and stuff. So, you know, i did not he know this frankly any additional security today. There might have been, but i
walked in, flashed my pass. Had my coffee in my hand like the rest are of us. Things were proceeding pretty normally until 9 54 in the morning when that gunfire broke out. You could smell the gunpowder in the air. You could see the smoke, which is a very chaotic scene. Wow, josh, and you are still in lockdown in Parliament Today as you are speaking to us. This is incredible story and i think that things have dramatically changed for the future for canada based on this act of violence tonight. Josh, thanks for being with us. My pleasure. That i can care. Take care. We still dont know if the gunman or gunmen have any link to groups. Was todays shooting attack related to mondays hit and run attack that i just mentioned on two canadian soldiers . For more on that, fox news correspondent David Lee Miller joins us from ottawa. I understand you just arrived in canada, what you can tell us . One of the first things
that you cant help but notice is the capital city of canada, ottawa at this hour, much of it still remains in lockdown. More than nine hours now after the shooting took place imagine the heart of washington, d. C. Essentially shut down for nine hours after an incident. Well, that is what is happening here now. We have just received word that we expect later this hour that the Prime MinisterStephan Harper is going to take to the airways and make some type of a statement. This following a very difficult day for so many canadians. The time line here. 9 52 thats when the gunman opened fire on a reserve soldier serving as honor guard at the war memorial . That reservist jumped the opportunity. This is a very special thing to be asked to serve as. And he did so, of course, can no an it tis pation that anything like this could happen. There are reports that he was shot at point blank range by the gunman. Then, minutes later, the gunman made his way to the parliament. Thats just a few hundred yards away. As we just heard, thats where the chaos ensued. The gunman began to open fire, according to one witness i talked, to firing as many as 40 rounds. One of those rounds hitting in the leg, a Security Guard at the parliament. The gunman continued to fire. He made his way throughout the building on a significant day here. This is caucus day. That means the building is packed with lawmakers. Coincidence or not, there were dozens and dozens of people, hundreds of people, lawmakers in the Parliament Building expecting to do business as usual. The gunman made his way through the parliament and thats when things took a dramatic turn. The sergeant at arms, largely ceremonial post,
opened fire on the gunman. We understand that he was in his office when he heard the shooting take place, according to a witness. I understand that the sergeant at arms then, with some type of side arm, left his office and was able to shoot the gunman. So the gunman at this hour identified as we just heard from Catherine Herridge, michael bebow, we understand a recent convert to islam. He recently changed his name from Michael Joseph hall. Local media reports say, kimberly, he had already been designated as high risk traveler and that his passport had been confiscated. Lastly now, there were a number of injuries at the Parliament Building including the three people who were injured tonight were released from the hospital. But at this hour, on the minds of so many canadians, the question, kimberly, 10 10 it 22. Is this a day that for canada at least many is going to change forever . Back to you. It certainly is thanks for update. Canadian parliamentary member was inside the building when the gunfire rang out. Thank you for being with us. Take us what you were experiencing when you first heard the shots snyder. Shots fired . As your correspondent said on the hill. I was going in my caucus which is a floor below where the incident occurred. Heard this pop pop pop. And i assumed it was construction because there is a lot of construction going on on the hill until the Security Guard came racing down the hallway and said out, everybody out. Do you what you are told. We were ushered out the pack door quite quickly. So then we kind of huddled out the back and didnt really know what was going on and whether the construction workers said to us well, if there are people in there shooting, it would probably be wise if we got
behind something. So we stood behind one of the monuments and there is a woman and she was crying and another woman who was huddling, protecting her baby. And then we not much point staying on the hill. We skirted the eastern perimeter of the hill and got off the parliamentary precincts. Then it hit us when you saw all the security out on the main street in front of the Parliament Building. Quite a day and very dramatic. Had you received any advanced briefings to expect the heightened security or the threat level, perhaps, being raised that anyone would think that it would be a direct target there at the parliament, essentially the peoples house like we had here in the United States . Yeah, no, nothing. We have a relatively accessible parliament. I think that may be one of the victims of this day we hold dearly our opportunities to interact
with citizens and legislators with citizens and citizens with legislators. I have been doing this for 17 years now and never ever thought it would come to a day like this. Which is, i guess its going to change. What measures would you recommend be taken in light of what happened today . I would like to get my facts lined up before i make my conclusion. I think there will be a panoply of suggestions that will be made certainly since 9 11 we have had heightened security on the hill. Certainly when i started here anyone could walk on or drive on to the hill for that matter. There have been quite a number of measures implemented. Probably some that are quite visible some that are not clearly as visible. Beyond that i think thats left left to others. Not imagine get shot off
into lay down that suspect, how many other lives could be lost today . Clearly is a a hero and i dont i just have nothing but admiration for him. Where the shooting took place is just literally outside of his Office Government caucus and official caucus were meeting in separate rooms. And this as your correspondent said could have been a very very significant incident involving members of parliament from all the parties. You are right, just proximity the way you laid it out. It could have been much higher casualties so thanks be to god that he was there
and acted so swiftly. Mr. Mckay, thank you for taking the time to be with us tonight. Thank you. Good night. The fbi and Canadian Police working around the clock to determine if todays deadly violence was an act of terror. So what signs are they looking for . Terrorism expert walid phares joins us. Walid, so you have heard them from our previous guest lay it out. Eyewitnesses, people who were there who heard the shots and of course, the heroic act from the sergeant of arms mr. Vickers taking out that suspect. When you heard that reporting as well from Catherine Herridge abs individua recent convert to islam and then you also hear the terror chatter that had been going on prior to this, what do you make of it . Well, first of all, there are things, kimberly that we know and things we dont know much about. The things we know are the big picture. Your guest and other guests have been talking about standing instructions by isis Islamic State in syria and iraq to anybody who is either a member or a supporter to do two things. First, believing as much as possible the United States and allies and canada is an ally on the bun hand. We saw what happened in australia a few weeks ago. An attempt to slaughter people on the ground and then a more specific instruction by isis to now as catherine has said targtsd the military in the United States and other countries, what we dont know is the actual operation two cases both are from question quebec and canada. Are they connected . Is it somebody, a middle man, a middle person between isis and these people or are they on their own lone wolves we dont know. Thats what people are wondering at home. Was this some kind of concerted effort or attack or someone they this identify passport revoked. Suspicious of. Going to do something to act here at home. Thats the real question given what we know at this hour. Heres the problem, kimberly, the pool of individuals who are are both
in the United States and in canada is pretty big. People are radical. People who want to go to join in the taliban and now isis, hundreds of those. How are we able, are we going to be able to determine which one is going to act is the ream problem with Counter Intelligence services. So what we have right now is is the possibility that any member of that pool of people have been indoctrinated and radicalized could take action without being organized of with the mother ship back in syria and iraq that is the problem. When you look at these selfradicalized by reading and there is a lot of information out there on the internet otherwise sis getting their message out there. Anyone down the street could be inspired to act on their own. Yes, indeed, the problem now is this. Laws democracies wont allow us to do. Who believes in the caliphate. Who doesnt believe . But the link between that inaction is sole something that we should be doing much better. Meaning who is actually convinced that he or she wants to act should be in a smaller pool of people who are active. Thats, i think, what the United States, canada and their allies across the atlantic would want to be doing soon. Thats the challenge for counter intention, of course, even as they are looking at this case to figure it out on this evening auto. All right. Walid, thank you so much. Thank you for having me. And we are staying on top of the breaking news in canada. We will take you back live to ottawa. But, first, are u. S. Lawmakers worried that a similar attack could happen on our capital . Congressman Jason Chaffets is here next. Plus, how did police track down three American Teens allegedly trying to join isis . You have to see the clues they left behind on social media and new information about the ferguson, Missouri Police shooting. The one that sparked weeks of riots. Could the new details change everything . Thats coming up. At crohnsandcolitis. Com. And then speak with your gastroenterologist. Its a fresh approach on education superintendent of public instruction Tom Torlaksons blueprint for great schools. Torlaksons blueprint outlines how investing in our schools will reduce class sizes, bring back music and art, and provide a wellrounded education. And torlaksons plan calls for more parental involvement. Spending decisions about our education dollars should be made by parents and teachers, not by politicians. Tell Tom Torlakson to keep fighting for a plan that invests in our public schools. Fighting for a plan that you never jim jam shabriver flab dry ris. O is, bliss pounds hazy dray . Drywall shboop leaver murray. Hey, big bog panorama corn salabaty . Dude, squibble bits. Mareyayzee. Mormal snap jebby rolban jebby deetle flosh. [laughter] eh. Nows the time to get in the loop. Just look for our fall tv picks with xfinity on demand. Huh. Quickly find the seasons hottest shows, huh. Quickly find the seasons hottest shows, with a handpicked collection all in one place. Only from xfinity. Of this is a fox news alert we are going to take you to the fox news desk where Shepard Smith is standing lye live. We gotten word are from the white house that somebody has jumped the fence again on the north lawn of the white house. You see where the reporters stand every day doing live reports with the white house behind them. Thats the fence that was junkd. As you look at this live picture, its to the right in the near ground. At any rate, we are told somebody dropped the fence. Secret service caught this person and walked the person through the Northwest Gate on our live camera person
was in handcuffs at the time. Does it happen from time to time, it does. Given the attack in canada today or whatever it was that happened in ottawa with the shooting that happened there at the war memorial and then more shootings at the Parliament Buildings, we wanted to bring you. This we expect we have pictures in just a couple of minutes of this latest white house fence jumper is, there anything to indicate this jumper is connected to anything ha happened in canada . Absolutely not. But today, just moments ago there was a jumper at the white house. Went over the fence, into the north lawn, security got him, got him out of there in handcuffs. We may have pictures and if we get them we will bring them to you. We hope for context as well. For now, back to greta. All right. Thanks, shep. We will bring you updates as they develop. In the meantime. Terrifying news out of canada today. Canadian Parliament Members forced to run for their lives as dozens of gunshots are fired. Right in the middle of the Parliament Building. So would members of our congress be prepared if our
capital came under attack. Congressman Jason Chaffetz joins us. Pleasure to have you here, congressman and also a member of the Homeland Security committee. Just a harrowing experience today. Whats your take away from what happened in canada and are we prepared, god forbid if there was an attack like this on our capital . First of all, god speed to those men and women who are on the front lines to deal with this. Some who run to the sound of the guns. Those people do amazing job. They do it at our capital. They did it in canada. You saw that place was smothered rather quickly. Got bless them. The United States capital one of the highly targeted terrorist facilities in the world is the white house. You have got some jumper that i just saw that story for the first moments as you just played it. These attacks, they are out there. And the men and women who perform the intelligence to try to prevent them and then the men and women who actually have to respond to those with dogs and other assets, they just got to smother this as quickly as
possible. Its something that we have been deal with for a long period of time. When you see, you know, an honor guard killed murder, you have got to think this is terrorism. Not down play. This is this a bigger broader effort. We are in a fight and we have to win this fight. You have to do the investigation, get the Counter Intelligence and look very carefully at what preceded. This what kind of threat levels, what kind of chatter was going on and of course we did that v. That direct encouragement going on from isis saying its a target military and government offices. Now, again, we dont know whether or not this person was radicalized. We know they are a recent convert to islam. This is just bringing in to play the larger question and a the picture which is we do have to be hypervigilant about our security while at the same time maintaining the balance for peoples privacy. Thats the problem that we face in this country, i mean you know best being on the committee. Look, you cant live your
life in fear and we cant give up every liberty in the name of security. At the same time when we know there is a a threat, there is a a clear and present danger to the United States of america, then you go take out that threat. We cant be so politically correct as to say well lets not just pretend that this particular thing lets just smooth that over. No, you cant be talking about work place violence when clearly its terrorism. Lets get real about it and get aggressive about it. People need to know for instance in the fence jumping, i spent a lot of time looking at the secret service and most every one of those men and women do awesome work. Awesome work. Very dedicated. When somebody does jump the fence they need to know that they are going to be taken down. Those men and women who are there, they cant hesitate. They need to know we got their back, nobody gets to the president. Nobody gets in the white house. No one gets in that can a made can parliament. If thats the message we continue to send, then i think they will think twice about making those types of attempts. I am sure when you get to the capitol a number of briefings about this and
seeing in the next coming days what this exactly was and who is responsible and behind it congressman, always a pleasure to have you. Thank you. Thank you. And did we just witness a terror attack . That is the question tonight right across our border . The fbi helping Canadian Police to determine if todays shooting spree was terrorism. A live report from canada next. [get down, get down. Get down. [gunfire]
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coming from the parliament in canada where there is a reported shooting. [gun fire] the reports are that shots have been fired, that one soldier is down on duty near the war memorial which i believe you are looking at right now, a five minute walk between these two buildings. Everybody out. In the foyer. I heard a bunch of pops. I thought it was just fire crackers going off. I looked across the street and there was a man with a rifle shooting at a bunch of people. Down down down. Let me see your hands. Police do confirm there are multiple shooting locations in ottawa right now. The shooter who entered the house of parliament is dead. You need to leave. That sergeant of arms there getting a lot of praise, former officer himself apparently shooting the suspect in parliament and taking him down. Saw a woman who took cover. Crying. Her kids were still inside. Victim of the shooting is a member of the Canadian Armed forces. His injuries were fatal. Came from the side on my left hand side and came out with a rifle and shot at the man and then the guy went falling down and everybody was just in shock. So the first patient went in 10 o 2 oa. M. That patient is deceased. And that was the suspect in this case. Then they got three more patients. One 17 minutes later. One an hour and a half later and one 45 minutes after that. What is going none canada right now. Bill curry joins us live. Bill, thanks for being on the program tonight. I understand you have some new developments, new information regarding the suspect and another individual. Y in the last couple hours that michael bebo is the name thats circulating in terms of who the shooter is. Sources are telling the
globe that this person was on a watch list, Security Officials were concerned about this person. Just as we had a shooter in canada just on monday, who attacked a couple canadian forces. Killing, also on the list. So we had heard about this list recently in the last couple weeks about a list about 90 individuals who were being watched by the canadian government for potential radicalization. And so so far two of them have acted after being watched by authorities. So two of these individuals, passports revoked. Were in communication. Do we know how often they were in communication . Like the frequency or whether or not they had any prior relationship . Like whats the nexus between the two . I dont know if they have been in communication. We have got other officials, other reporters working on that particular angle. So i havent been able to confirm that focus more on whats going on on the ground. We just had the security level for downtown ottawa upgraded again. So this is not going away. They just told us just within the last 20 minutes or so that they have increased lockdown on downtown buildings like the one im at right now. Just two blocks south of Parliament Hill. So, there is still obviously something going on downtown thats of serious concern to the police. Do we know if there is still an ongoing manhunt at this hour . Hence the reason for the lockdown . They have never actually said that we have had a few briefings from the police today. They have talked about things like being a fluid environment, investigation is ongoing. But they have never come out and said they definitely think that there is another shooter involved. But obviously with one now dead and this lockdown continuing on Parliament Hill and the buildings around Parliament Hill, obviously they are not confident that this is over. Okay. They have to be very vigilant to make sure that
the perimeter and the scene is secure and there arent any other suspects out there. But you were on scene very quickly after this shooting happened. You were able to speak with eyewitnesses. What you can tell us . Some of them had a visual of the shooter. What did he look like . They described kind of a short man with long, dark hair which does fit the images that have been circulating today after the suspect was identified. So, a mail with long dark hair. So the war memorial is just kind of southeast of Parliament Hill. Kind of across the street. Its not protected by any security perimeter at all. But there are kind of ceremonial guards who man the mans the its called the tomb of the unshown soldier that sends there. They are there during 9 to a april to november. And so witnesses see saw this map arrive with a shotgun. Fired four shots and the victim went down
immediately. I saw him when i got on the scene, ambulance took him away and a couple hours later he was declared dead from. What we can piece together, witnesses saw the shooter immediately then run in the direction of Parliament Hill. And then other witnesses picking up from that scene, it appears that he might have hijacked a car that was on the premises. Okay. Drove up to the front of the Parliament Buildings. All right. Little unclear as to how he actually got in the building, but then once inside, people heard shots that were louder than the other shots they would hear. Sounds like the shotgun from the shooter went off first. Pretty hectic scene. We actually had video of this, my colleague Josh Wingrove shot a video where you see hallway, people climbing, working their way toward their shooter at the end of the hall which is where the library is from parliament. Bill, obviously guy guys were on scene right away win credible information. We will be checking back with you as this story develops. Thank you for being with us tonight. Straight ahead. Three American Teenage girls caught. They were apparently caught trying to join isis. Wait until you see the clues they left behind on social media. Thats next. Plus more on todays breaking news. Part of canadas capitol still on lockdown tonight. We are still waiting to find out if there are more suspects on the loose as the manhunt continue its. Update on the shooting investigation coming up. People with type 2 diabetes
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yesterday. Kind of minute by minute. We did learn this afternoon about the tweets with the local School District where the local girls attended high school. We dont know what was in the tweets. We worked all afternoon to try to find them. We had a lot of social media experts over at the denver post figure out what was said and we never got to the bottom of it. What do we know about these girls . This is so alarming. Teenage girls would want to go to syria to join isis . How is this happening in this country right now . You know, i cant really speak to their mind set. We went over to their homes today. We have been trying to speak with the families. They didnt answer the doors when we went over and knocked. I spoke to some today at the high school where they went. I didnt get any information from them either. They had had a spokesman come out last night for to represent two of the girls who were sisters what exactly drove them to try and do. This very Little Information about the motivation i guess
what people are wondering have they had any direct contact with any members of isis . And, again, we dont know too much about that the School District here today did say that the girls were maybe victims of internet spread tore. The statement put out by the fbi Division Yesterday was the outside of that incredibly mum, september that its an active ongoing investigation. They stress that since juveniles are involved in this they are going to continue to be pretty quiet about it. Wasnt something that they theory rised or talked about on late my phone most alarming. I mean, its kind of surprising you think about three outcome teenage girls lying all the way to germany. They told their parents that he they were going to school on friday. And by the time the parents realized they were gone. They were, you know, either
in the air or already in germany. Its pretty incredible, they stole 2,000 allegedly from their parents before they did this to maybe pay for it we dont really know. But, again, yeah, its surprising. Its a big trip. They flew across the world. A lot of steps needed to come into play. Its going to be curious to see if there are an individual or individuals connected with them that helped them to map this out because it seems like it was wellplanned and the question is for how long in advance . Jesse paul thank you for the reporting from denver. Thank you. And straight ahead. Startling new information about the Missouri Police shooting violent riot plus dr. Michael baden joins us next. Breaking news out of canada. Sources telling fox news that parliament to islam. Update in just minutes, right now, new information about the Police Shooting of a teen that sparked days of riots in ferguson, missouri. Autopsy results on Michael Brown before the show, brown was shot in the hand at close range. Back in august a, dr. Michael baden performed a separate autopsy on brown so does he agree with the new report . Dr. Baden joins you now. Hi kimberly. Great to have you here tonight. New report thats been release the from the first autopsy is, i agree with much of what it said in there. There is evidence of a wound being inflicted while his hand was in the car at least because he does have a gunshot graze wound in the hand, the right hand. The decedent, Michael Brown . The decedent, yes. And his blood was found by the fbi in the car. So, that, i think, is agreed
upon. There is some gunshot residue in the hand, only seen under the microscope. It wasnt seen the first autopsy on the skin surface but under the skin. Again on Michael Brown. Gsr, gone shot residue which would suggest that he was in close proximity with the weapon. Right, of the officer. Right. Yes. So, and that gun shot wound of the car i have seen newspapers of various speculations about how many gunshot wounds, the first and second autopsy agree that there were at least six bullets that struck Michael Brown. Okay. So six shots that actually penetrated. But we dont know how many total shots were fired. We dont know how many total shots were fired and there were two perforations that were reentries from the six that were fired, two were reentered into the chest and heart. So thats all in agreeme done ur
federal jurisdiction which we dont have information. But you were privy to the results from the first autopsy and then, of course, you performed the second . I was privy. Before at all part of the problem. One of the reasons the family was concerned about a coverup and was they werent getting any information from the first autopsy. Its just two months now, two months finally getting some. Did you make a request to the authorities to be able to he see the first autopsy prior to you performing the second autopsy . I was called in after the first autopsy by the family and did i speak to the dr. Who had done the first autopsy. First rate forensic pathologist. And but did i not see the first autopsy. You didnt see it but you had a conversation with her regarding the content . Briefly. Briefly . Because she was under some stricture from the prosecutor not to talk about it very much. She has not done since because of the ongoing grand
jury. Umhuh. Which should be over soon. Okay, so based on what you know, what we know tonight of this report coming out, with the gsr, with the blood in the car, the close range, would you be surprised if the grand jury declined to return an indictment against the officer . Well, i wouldnt be surprised. I wouldnt be surprised. Just in general, in general all the shootings. Very rare for a grand jury to indict a Police Officer who shoots somebody in the course of duty and this well see what happens here. At what point are you supposed to keep shooting or stop . Stop and also to see what kind of injuries the Police Officer had. We dont know that yet. We dont know yet that yet tonight. Dr. Baden, thank you so much for being with us. Coming up. More breaking news from canada. Was todays shooting attack terrorism . The latest next. Would quit. You know, i really didnt either but chantix helped me do it. Along with support, Chantix Varenicline is proven to help people quit smoking. It gave me the power to overcome the urge to smoke. Some people had changes in behavior, thinking or mood, hostility, agitation, depressed mood and suicidal thoughts or actions while taking or after stopping chantix. If you notice any of these, stop chantix and call your doctor right away. Tell your doctor about any history of Mental Health problems, which could get worse while taking chantix. Dont take chantix if youve had a serious allergic or skin reaction to it. If you develop these, stop chantix and see your doctor right away as some can be lifethreatening. Tell your doctor if you have a history of heart or blood vessel problems, or if you develop new or worse symptoms. Get medical help right away if you have symptoms of a heart attack or stroke. Use caution when driving or operating machinery. Common side effects include nausea, trouble sleeping and unusual dreams. Im a nonsmoker; that feels amazing. Ask your doctor if chantix is right for you. To help entertain some friends at the beach. Before earning 1 cash back everywhere, every time. And 2 back at the grocery store. Even before he got 3 back on gas. All with no hoops to jump through. Rafael was inspired to use his bankamericard cash rewards credit card to spend a night watching the stars, under the stars. Thats the beauty of rewarding connections. Apply online or at a bank of america near you. Hello. Im an idaho potato farmer and our big idaho potato truck is still missing. So my buddy here is going to help me find it. Here we go. Woo who, woah, woah, woah. Its out there somewhere spreading the word about americas favorite potatoes heart healthy idaho potatoes and the american heart associations go red for women campaign. If you see it i hope youll let us know. Always look for the grown in idaho seal. Breaking tonight, sources tell fox the shooter in todays rampage in canada converted to islam