Media narrative for the indicted exspeaker. Hillarys numbers nosedive and many of the pundits who said the swirl of ethical controversies wasnt hurting her candidacy are suddenly changing their tune. Is the press slavishly following the polls. Political pundits go to fair over the vanity fair cover in which bruce jenner reemerges as Caitlin Jenner. And the duggar scandal and the sidelining of their tlc reality show. The main charge weve heard from your critics has been they are hypocrites. They preached family values. I dont think you go up to total strangers and say, hi my name is soandso and i want you to know what i did as a child and share everything about your past. Did the interview expose a family in denial . And two of the daughters lashing out at the media for revealing the abuse by their brother, josh. When you found out this was going to be on the cover of in touch weekly, what was your reaction . What like how could they do this . This is just they can donatet do this to us. Were they victimized by a tawdry tabloid. And Gretchen Carlson and how shes been stereotyped. I reached and hit the bimbo trifecta when i came to fox news. Because im a blond, im a former miss america, and now i work at fox. Im howard kurtz and this is media buzz. No journalist has been able to coax a comment from Denny Hastert or his lawyers since the former speaker was indicted over money transfers related to a coverup. Alleged hush money over what sources describe as sexual abuse during hasterts days as a High School Teacher and wrestling coach. That story got far less abstract on friday when Good Morning America aired this bombshell interview. I said, why didnt you ever tell anybody, stevie . I mean he was your teacher. Why didnt you ever tell anybody . And he just looked at me and he said who is ever going to believe me . In this town who is ever going to believe me . Joining us now to examine the story and the latest coverage of Hillary Clinton, Mary Katherine ham, editor at large at hot air, a fox news contributor, and coauthor of the new book, end of discussion how the lefts outrage industry shuts down debate manipulates voters and makes america less free and fun. Ann guerin political reporter for the Washington Post. And Jackie Kucinich senior politics editor for the daily beast. Mary katherine, how important is this abc interview with this woman, joleen who says her brother, steve reinboldt, told her he was sexually harassed by Denny Hastert. I think its very important. Something 3. 5 million worth of bad happened here that was worth covering up, so obviously the press will ask questions and i think should ask questions as a prelim figure. It is a really tricky story, though when you get to the fact that the alleged victim is no longer with us and cannot speak to this. And the guy whos being paid money, whos in the indictment which is not for any sort of sexual abuse, is for the structuring involved in the paying we dont know who that is yet. It is a tricky story, because an allegation alone like this of course ruins lives, and there has not been a trial or a charge. So its hard to know. Its odd, there hasnt been a charge or a trial or a denial from Denny Hastert. There are three alleged victims, but alleged. Before this woman came forward showing stories of her brother, the story seemed almost abstract but now we have an alleged victim. The thing thats clear to me from this interview, whats changed . This woman came forward in 2006 with this same story and they did not run the story or go with her claims because they couldnt have substantiated it . Whats substantiated it at this point . I thought that was missing. As someone who watched the interview and read the story about it it just wasnt clear to me what changed, what new information they have about her claim. Well abc says the original approach in 2006 it was off the record for one thing. And the other difference i suppose, is that this woman, joleen has since been interviewed by the fbi. Thats an interesting question given she didnt provide abc news with any voice mails or documents or letters. Did this meet the test for publication . Well i agree with jackie. It was hard to tell what had changed between the first time the woman came to abc and the time that the interview was aired. Particularly since abc didnt show us a trail of what they were able to get in corroborating information from the fbi. All that said clearly, the entire landscape surrounding the story has changed. And multiple news organizations, including mine have reported on the basis of Law Enforcement sources, you know kind of the architecture of the allegations and the investigation. Whats been missing and what remains missing is either a, you know, a stepbystep account from one of the alleged victims, presuming theres more than one, or as you pointed out in your introduction you know a denial or any theory of the case at all, from Denny Hastert. I still cant really get my head around why a lawyer hasnt spoken up yet. I dont understand it. But as you pointed out, its a strange indictment and the thing thats at the heart of it the alleged sexual abuse years ago at an Illinois High School isnt spelled out in the indictment. So last sunday when the indictment was criticized or why isnt this also extortion by the person who was going to received 3. 5 million, i guess got almost 2 million, he got criticized for being insensitive to the cause of sexual abuse. And i think that may be something that reporters are responding to right now as well because the environment is such that people want to be very sensitive to alleged victims. And perhaps are thinking hey, maybe somebody didnt have the ability to come to a person of power and make these accusations at the time and they want to offer a makeup call for that. But i do think theres been interesting and mature reporting on the indictment itself, which is based on these old structuring laws. And i think the press has been really good about laying out why thats an interesting way to take somebody to task. Usually used to get drug dealers who are moving money around. By the way, a liberal columnist like bill press and ruth marcus of the Washington Post have also questioned whether this is prosecutorial overreach. But the story broke friday morning. Cnn, msnbc covered it every hour. Msnbc, sometimes as much as three times an hour. Fox news covered it only once a brief story on a special report. Who was right . You know i think thats up to the viewers to say whose judgment is right. But i will say, this is if you ran a cable network, would you air this throughout the day . You know heres the thing. I covered Dennis Hastert as a reporter on the hill. So i think this is a very big story. And it speaks to particularly because of how he reacted during the foley scandal, if these allegations are true i think its a very important story. And trust in government frankly. But, again, i dont know if Everyday Americans care as much as i do. Well, because hastert has been very much out of the limelight for nine years now. But during the years when he was the speaker of the house, he was a real power player in this city. So i guess it depends on how important it is when you go after a former official. Thats the other thing that has changed, right. Its harder to make that charge against a sitting speaker of the house. A former official who was already under indictment a little bit easier. And i think your chances of getting good coverage thats not entirely sensationalized is better when somebody is out of the limelight. That doesnt mean its better for alleged victim ifs the charges end up being true. Although i got an nbc news alert on my phone saying we have the first video of hastert on his property in plano, illinois since the scandal broke. So apparently somebodys trying to stake him out. Tmzing it. Very well put. Let me turn now to Hillary Clinton. Theres been a lot of coverage this week over some sinking poll numbers, in particular a cnn poll for example, showed that 57 believe that she is not honest and trustworthy. Lets take a look at some of the pundits weighing in on that. Youve had sort of democrats and i think many in the media reporting with glee that she hadnt been affected by the email story and the benghazi story and all of these things. Well clearly she was going to be affected. The pounding on benghazi, an email server has been nonstop and its worked. Ben garrett, how much has hillarys lowkey rollout, which you cover for the Washington Post, not talking to the press very much not grapling with these questions, contributed in your view to this showing up in the polls . I dont think the two are really directly related. Certainly, as a reporter covering her, theres a frustration level for me and among a lot of my colleagues that you know, were not getting to ask her some of the questions that bear on the job in the Public Perception of her trustworthiness, face to face that often. She did take questions two weeks ago, on all of these subjects. For about five minutes. Right. And there werent a lot of followups and her answers werent as extensive as they would be in a oneonone interview. If she were sitting here with you, you would be able to ask followup questions and go point by point. Thats not possible when you have a scrum of reporters. That said she did actually appear to be responding to the criticism that she wasnt taking questions, and the fact that indeed their own polling must show this and theyre reading the public polls, that statement, she remains popular and remains the front runner no question about that. But the troubling thing is the rise in the number of people who say that they dont find her trustworthy. Heres where i partially disagree. I think that by having these small groups of voters and i know shes going to do the big rollout in new york next week and by largely avoiding journalists, i think she has kind of left a vacuum. Her campaign has left a vacuum that has been filled by email stories, Clinton Foundation donation stories, speaking fee stories, and stories about the press not gaining access. Jackie Jackie Jackie . Im sorry, whats the question do you think that she do you think that there is a connection between the way she has run her campaign and not engaged on this very much particularly with the press, and the fact that this is finally showing up in the polls . I think there is a connection. But i do think its giving relative strength to people who have declared against her, people like bernie sanders, people like Martin Omalley its creating oxygen for them. But i sat here on the set for the last two months and said this is chipping away at her image. Shes not responding effectively. Shebd she should talk to the press. Now it is showing up in the polls. Are we so addicted to polls we cant seed the evidence in front of our own eyes until a Public Opinion survey validates it . I think that is part of it. What are we to do . Were pundits and reporters in washington. We need a poll. I wish she would respond for the sake of transparency and running for government you want to trust these people and hear from them. Politically, i dont think i would advise her to respond often, because when we saw her at the u. N. Respond, it was not effective. Thats one of the issues theyre dealing with. They have left a vacuum and when the poll numbers come in guess what there is to cover, despite valiant reporters like ann out there trying to cover her, theres not much out there. You cover the poll numbers and it cascades. I think that news conch was not effective because she hadnt answered questions on the email business for eight days. She talks to the press routinely each particular confrontation or engagement might not be a big story. Talk about the media aspect of what were discussing right here on the program. When we come back hillarys Campaign Holds a background briefing for the press, and even that sparks controversy. 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It was useful for me as a reporter covering her and covering the campaign and the structure of the campaign to hear in their own words kind of some of the theory of the case. I would have loved to have been able to quote from that directly. The Washington Post rules on deep background which is what the briefing that was the rule of the briefing mean that i really i was very much boxed in. All i could do is say what they said collectively and not use not attribute anything to anyone in particular person. And that really was a problem. Thats the debate. Look all campaigns have officials who talk off the record they talk on background. This is not some reinvention, but it feels different in this case because theres so little access to Hillary Clinton or her top deputies. It also feels weird in practice. This is sort of an innocuous briefing about how many staffers you have and how you have offices. Like why cant we just know that . It feels sort of pairranoid and bizarre. It doesnt look good for your campaign. And on that point, the New York Times blew the whistle on an email went out. This is from hillary Clinton Campaign official Jesse Ferguson because he never agreed to any background rules, and he said that hillary, according to this email will lay out her view of challenges facing the country. This has to be on background from a Campaign Official . Jesses not the only person who does this. I get emails all the time like this is off the record this is on background. Like i didnt agree to this. You cant just tell me this. Thats not how this works. So i think overall Campaign Officials should know and stop doing that. Its an agreement. Its not an order. I know but im so struck by you know its the most bland stuff imaginable. Lay out her vision for the future but dont attribute that to me. Mary katherine, you write about what you call the outrage circus and you say msnbc stokes up outrage for the liberals and democrats, but you acknowledge many view fox plays that role for the right. Why do you think the left is more guilty here . I think its not just the left. And we point out that it is the right sometimes and we dont want to get better at this. The left is far better at it partly because they are more amplified, so when they large media establishment, sometimes entertainment, various nonprofits that get excited to be offended by everything theyve ever heard. And it just doesnt end up making a real robust and interesting political debate or cultural debate for anybody. And i think not just public figures feel that sort of policing of language these days but its trickling down to private citizens. That concerns me. You should be able to post on your private Facebook Page and not be treated like a public figure even on Something LikeCaitlin Jenner which is tricky to talk about. And well talk about later. Ill look forward to more leaks from the next hillary background briefing. Nice to see you this sunday. Ahead, the media uproar over a vanity fair cover and why Bruce Jenners transition to Caitlin Jenner is such a polarizing issue. Up next abcs world news tonight now vying for first place by covering far less political news. Well look at that, next. Theres just one last thing to do check with truecar. Car prices change all the time for all kinds of reasons. But truecar pulls in the latest, most accurate data so i can be sure if im getting a great price. This is truecar. Here at the Td Ameritrade trader group, they work all the time. Sup jj . Working hard . Working 24 7 on mobile trader, rated 1 trading app in the app store. It lets you trade stocks options, futures. Even advanced orders. 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Look shootings and tornadoes and People Killed by a lieonlion that stuff sells. But when you cant spare one fulltime reporter to Cover Congress youve made a pretty sad statement about your values. And the duggar family speaks to meghan kelly about the scandal that may cost them their reality show. And later, Gretchen Carlson on dealing with Sexual Harassment in tv news. The beast was as long as the boat. For seven hours, we did battle. Until i said. You will not beat. Meeeeee greg. What should i do with your fish . Gary. Just put it in the cooler. If youre a fisherman, you tell tales. Its what you do. If you want to save fifteen percent or more on Car Insurance you switch to geico. Its what you do. Put the fish in the cooler attention. Did you or anyone in your household work around asbestoscontaining gaskets and packing . The garlock bankruptcy may affect your rights even if you do not presently have an asbestosrelated disease. 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I think, you know what christianity is not about being perfect or being a perfect family but its actually about being forgiven. And two of the familys daughters telling meghan they were horrified when in touch weekly published the juvenile Police Records essentially revealing that they and two other sisters were among the victims of their brother, josh. I feel like in this situation, were, again, helpless as to the people handing over this report and then the tabloids taking that and printing that and sensationalizing it and really using it for their own profit. Well i see it as a revictimization thats even a thousand times worse. Joining us now to examine how the Mainstream Media are handling these sensitive stories, Kathleen Parker the syndicated columnist and Pulitzer Prize winner. Lets put aside the legalities the freedom of information rules, you heard one of those daughters say that she had been revictimized a thousand times worse. How could in touch weekly and every other media outlet on the planet publish those juvenile records that essentially identify these women as victims . Its horrible i think. Juveniles are protected from exposure and if they were still juveniles, they would be and these people would be culpable in some legal way. But this is just i think, unfortunately, a sign of our times when it comes to media. There are no ethics anymore among certain publications and once something is out in the part of the Public Record everybody has to report on what is being reported. We saw this happen with Monica Lewinsky when drudge first reported who was doing what to whom. So everybody, even legitimate publications had to go with the flow. Although theres a journalistic rule that we dont identify victims of sexual abuse, whether theyre adults or especially whether theyre children. In this case that was just thrown out the window. There willy, it wasnt. Because the names were redacted. It was left to people to read the story closely and figure out who the victims were. But their names were redacted. It was pretty obvious. It was. Because they were sisters. Because they were sisters, yes. But they did what they needed to do the barest minimum, to make it okay, which is redact the names. Katherine, let me turn to this are liberal media types taking a special joy in attacking the duggar family not letting them off the hook because theyre christian conservatives, have had a lot of kids and now appear to be hypocrites . I think the liberal media, i dont know exactly who youre talking about, but they would delight in such a thing, because conservative christians when they have problems, always are called hypocrites i dont know why. Because to be a christian doesnt mean as mr. Duggar said it doesnt mean you have to be perfect. It means you aspire to live in a perfect way, but we are all fallen as christians will tell you, and therefore mistakes are made by everyone. So its unfair i think, to ever attack someone as a hypocrite because theyve failed to live up to perfection. But thats what they were selling. Their reality show is based on them being this perfect family. Thats what they were selling. Theyre not music entertainers theyre not actors. Theyre selling that they were this perfect christian family. And they chose to become reality figures. They chose to become reality stars. If you know that you have this shameful secret in your past why would you invite cameras into your home . Why would you open yourself up to that level of scrutiny . It boggles the mind. It is so insane. I just i dont understand it. I cannot wrap my head around why they would do that. I agree with you completely on that. In fact reality shows, as a whole, are mind boggling to me. I dont know why would anyone expose their children to any kind of scrutiny like that. I have all kinds of criticisms of the duggar parents and i thought they handled meghan kellys questions very poorly, because they didnt have good answers. Why they didnt go to the authorities sooner and all of that. But the worst thing, youve identified why would you put and make your family famous and put the cameras in their lives and make it a show when you know and everyone in the family knows youre hiding this. But on the question of the coverage lola let me flip the question. Are some conservative commentators going easy on the family because its somebody who is seen as on their side . Absolutely. I think that if this family was a group of atheists they would have thrown the book at them. They would have drawn and quartered the entire family in the middle of times square. And the fact that theyve been a bit, i think a bit lenient on this family. Theyve been understanding. Theyve asked how josh is feeling, how the family is feeling. Its about how those girls are feeling and how those girls were victimized by their family. Thats what its about here. And yes, theyve been victimized by in touch weekly and the tabloids that have published these stories, but theyve also been victimized by their own family because the family has rallied to support josh and not rallied to support these girls. I think it was horrible that those two sisters spoke to meghan kelly. Even though their names are redacted we didnt have to necessarily hear from them. We should hear from anybody in that family it should be josh. He should be out there defending his own actions. His sisters shouldnt be out there. Theyve already been victimized once by them. They shouldnt have to be revictimized again by going on a mea culpa tour for him. I would be much happier if we never had to hear from any of them again. But i dont think there are any atheists out there with 19 children but if there are, i would watch that show. I would too i disagree on this point. Which is yeah i would like to hear from josh duggar. Hes the missing voice in all this. But i think since theyve already been outed, if those two daughters chose to speak to meghan kelly and in effect voluntarily damecame forward as victims of sexual abuse, that is their right. But there have been a lot of criticism or hot takes on the interview itself kathleen, some say, meghan kelly should have been more prosecutorial with them. She should have nailed them. If you want to be prosecutorial with an interview subject, the interview will be very short. You know your objective to try to get to the heart of the matter and get these people to open up and tell you sympatheticomething. You might bring it up at the end. She asked a lot of tough questions, but she was providing a forum to hear the familys side. And you have to be sympathetic to their feelings in order to get them to talk to you openly. Thats why they probably chose meghan. Lola but howard, there were some glaring omissions. When the father said oh, hes not a pedophile because he committed his actions when he was 14 going on 15, you have to be 16 to be a pedophile, she let that go. Thats a problem. But you noticed it. I did. We all noticed it. My point is she gave there should have been a followup question like did you hear what you just said now . I think my view is that meghan kelly gave them plenty of rope and they proceeded in many of instances to hang themselves with that rope. I agree with you. The only winner was meghan kelly and fox. Duggars did themselves no favors by showing up for that interview. And a writer for the daily beast, while conceding that meghan kelly asked important questions, said on msnbc, the interviewer should have wagged a finger at them and condemned them to hell. Thats our media culture in a nutshell. If you dont like them and dont like their ideology they should go to hell. I dont agree with that. They love their son and love their brother. Were missing that component. There has to be a compassion piece here, no matter how horrible you think they acted, it was hard for me to watch that interview and not feel some sympathy for them as parents. Up next how the media are polarizing what will surely be the most famous vanity fair cover of all time. Bruce jenners transition to Caitlin Jenner. The pursuit of healthier. It begins from the second were born. After all, healthier doesnt happen all by itself. It needs to be earned. Every day. Using wellness to keep away illness. And believing that a single life can be made better by millions of others. Healthier takes somebody who can power modern health care. By connecting every single part of it. For as the world keeps on searching for healthier. Were here to make healthier happen. Optum. Healthier is here. You show up. You stay up. You listen. You laugh. You worry. You do whatever it takes to take care of your family. 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This is a mediadriven mediadriven conversation among the media. Of course it is. Ill tell you one thing thats not being discussed across america today, except as relates to this show of course is bruce to Caitlin Jenner. This is not too much coverage . Absolutely theres too much coverage. Youve got to cover the story of the week because thats what we do but what concerns me is why is that the story of the week . I want to be sensitive to people who are in this process of transgender transition. I try to be understanding of the complexities of that without being cynical. But as far as, you know the bruce jenner as hero im sorry, Caitlin Jenner has hero its terribly offensive. Does it take courage, i assume in your personal life perhaps. But as a hero to the nation i think most americans define that a little differently. One reason is that bruce jenner the former olympic champ, is incredibly famous. And is there any question in your mind that the Mainstream Media have been very positive about this episode . The New York Times has two stories today about transgendered people in general and at least the liberal commentators she, is a hero. Yeah i think the media has been overwhelmingly positive about brucetocaitlins public transition. I also have to say, and i hate to bring the kardashians into it but i think kris jenner is a marketing genius. I think she needs to teach a course at harvard. Because she has rolled this entire thing out masterfully. And we have all fallen prey to her expertise as a marketing genius. So kudos to kris jenner because shes made this entire spectacle happen flawlessly. Okay. But bruce, caitlin, you know incredible media rollout starting with the diane sawyer interview and vanity fair cover and now an e reality series. There is another side to this debate. There was a National Review headline bruce jenner needs our praise not our applause. Rush limbaugh says this is an effort to redefine normalcy. Washington post, to its credit did a story on the other side of the debate but i think for a lot of people you say, well if you bring up the other side maybe youre seen as a bigot. Right. And i agree with lola. This is a big publicity success. And lets remember that jenner, if he were doing this or she were doing this rather quietly or decided to do some sort of show it would be the opposite of quiet. It would be somewhat easier to say, lets focus on the issue and not the celebrity aspect of it. If youre not on board, youre a hater. And its unfortunate people have to take a position on transgender. Suddenly theyre being asked to comment or to respond and theyve got to take and you know, suddenly, theyre just not quite sophisticated or however you want to put it. Everybody has to have a position as you say, and i agree of course transgender people should be treated with dignity and respect, but this has become such a spectacle, a mediadriven and jennerdriven spectacle. Let me show you a little fun jon stewart had with this on the daily show. All i can say is wow. So sexy it hurts. I got a couple emails from some friends yesterday, saying im a little jealous, she looks better than i do. She looks ache movie star. She looks like rita hayworth. She looks amazing that is hot ive got about half a minute. Now caitlin is a woman and she gets to be treated and graded on her looks. She gets to be on jekbjectifyobjectified, just like us. Guess what they never did care what she had to say, and now they have to pay attention. And on that note of agreement, my two female guests lola do you like my hair howie . Its fabulous okay. 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I love the fact that your interview question was the role of media in the political process. So you win the crown, you want to go into tv, you apply to a Richmond Television station and the news director there told you said he was not hiring you because you had been miss america. Was it something of a draw pac . Yes. That was not the first and last time i had heard that. Every job that i moved to i came to know that my reputation would proceed me in a stereotypical way. In other words, i knew over time that the newsroom would start a buzz like here comes the former miss america, she realized thats what was going oh happen. Did that bother you . I got tough skin pretty early on. Of course originally it bothered me because i was so shocked that people would have its almost like may resume went out the window the second i became miss america. I made it my mission to work harder than anyone in the news room so i would become the top reporter. Tell me what happened with a guy you ran into trouble with. In this boom i dont only talk about being miss america. Sexual harassment was something that happened to me when i was miss america and in my first job, and in that situation, on the job, i was scared for my life basically, because i was in a rural area with someone i didnt know very well. This was before cell phones. I considered opening the door and rolling out of the car like you see in movies. After he put his hands on you . It was mostly just talking to me about my private parts and making me incrediblier in vow. I hadnt been on the job lock at all. I didnt want to report it. And the news director realized something was wrong with me and kept after me to tell him what had happened. So you were relek tantuctant to report. You spent years at fox and friends and you were the journalist on that panel and also a registered independent. Did that create any awkwardness for you . No. Not at all. What i loved about that show was the idea that we never discussed what we were going to say before. So many people have misinformation like were told what to say or we planned it out. I would see steve and bryan at two minutes before the show and sometimes i got a kick about surprising them. I think the big revelation was your babysitter was once Michele Bachmann and you say your mother was on you about your weight growing up. Is that something youve struggled with . Yeah. Thats another revelation in the book. People think your on tv. Everything is perfect. I still struggle with it on a daily basis. I was a chubby kid. The best lesson is i built my selfesteem from the inside out. I knew i was fat but i didnt really care and when i actually told that story after becoming miss america, i wanted to empower young teens that look you dont have to live a perfect life. I was fat and i became miss america and you know what ended up happening . I got to the airport to start my year as miss america and all three rags the Old FashionedNational Inquirer and those type of magazines did blimpo wins miss america. Be careful with you say to the media. But i still would say the same thing today. And now youve got your own show. You say sometimes youre still dismissed as a dumb blond at fox news. I say i reached the trifecta when i came to fox news. Im a blond, former miss america and now i work at fox. When people dont want to debate you on the series issues, they call you a dumb blond from fox, and that is what we face unfortunately. But i have to tell you that i dont really pay a lot of attention to that anymore. If i read every email on a daily basis, youd go home and off yourself or something. Its ridiculous that at some point you have to just realize that you are who you are from the inside and if people dont want to take you seriously, thats their prerogative. Great to see you. Thank you. Still to come, your top tweets. 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Has the duggar scandal Media Coverage been to too harsh or soft. Someone says unequal. James r sharp depends on who is doing the coverage. Megyn kelly was fair but traditional Media Coverage has been harsh. No one cared about them before. It was just a chance to attack them because they are christian and have so many kids. Another one, too much coverage of the duggar. Finally everyone in tv news knows about making the transition from a lighter topic to something dead serious. Jimmy kimmel dug up a classic example on hln. Cleaning your cat box twice a month. Give me a break. No wonder your house smells. Youre only cleaning it twice a month. I am tempted to make a rude gesture at you. Twice a month . Clean it every day with a scoop is what i told my husband. All right. Some random shootings in colorado. Yikes. Painfully awkward. Hln ladies try taking a very long pause. Thats it for this edition of media buzz. We hope youll like our fabzcebook page. We post a lot of content there. Were back here sunday morning. You know whats coming with the latest buzz. We start with the fox alert. Right now president obama is in jeremy germany meeting for the g 7 summit and were there. Hello, everyone. Im erik shawn. Im arthel neville. They are meeting to discuss the pressing International Issues ranging from the economy to global health. Standing up to russian aggression in ukraine, combatting threats from violent extremism to climate change. And on all these issues we are very