we didn't know ahead of times that it was going to be a rare presidential victory lap. an oh, yeah, i did it and it works kind of speech. is it really up? remember, 6 million people lost their coverage last fall, were issued cancellation notices. >> are the mainstream media buying the white house spin? david letterman hanging it up after three decades in late night. >> i said, leslie, it's been great. you've been great. the network has been great, but i'm retiring. >> this is really -- >> yep. >> this is -- the this is -- you actually did this? >> yes, i did. >> wow. well -- do i have a minute to call my accountant? >> we'll look at how he changed the television culture and whether part of his legacy is at the most openly liberal network comic. plus, life as a lowly liberal in the fox's den. >> i'm outnumbered every place i go, but i'm used to it. i get a thousand e-mails a week from peel saying you commie son of a "b." >> i'm howard kurtz and this is "media buzz." >> it began as an online protest that erupted into a huge debate about toll the rans and same-sex marriage. the ceo of mozilla was forced out of the tech company that makes the firefox browser because he donated $ 5,000 six years ago to a cause to ban gay marriage. some took to twitter to demand his resignation. these reports does not describe his ouster as any kind of outrage. now there's an angry backlash over what the company did. joining us now, lauren ashburn, fox news contributor host social buzz. john arab is on as, and amy holmes who anchors the hot list at "the wlblaze." what's been the tone on twitter? >> it's been a virtual earthquake. i think a lot of people on the right are saying the company has been intoll rapt. here is one tweet. mozilla has proved today they are the true biggest. i'm done with firefox. i wrote a twitter talk column right after this happened and most of the tweets were saying people were taking firefox off their computer right away. however, there are employees from mozilla and others like cathy mcdaniel, proud of mozilla through this, humbled by colleagues, grateful for support. >> john, i want to read to you something that got a lot of attention blogged by andrew sullivan who said the following about the ouster. this whole episode disgusts me as it should disgust anyone who is interested in a tolerant and diverse society. if this is the gay rights movement today, hounding our opponent was a if a national simple more like the religious rights than anyone else, then count me out. a lot of people look to you as a prominent gay mroger, but you have a very different opinion. >> yeah. i think andrew raises some good concerns in the sense that we should always be careful about who we go after. if we have the power to destroy, we should use it wisely, fair enough. in this case, i think you have a company that -- no corporate america is going to hire someone who is an anti-semi or a racist. if someone was a hollow co haul denier, not -- >> you described brendan ike who neither of us probably heard of a week as as an anti-gay activist when all he did was contribute $5,000 to a proposition six years ago. >> his intention was to repeal gay marriages. when you start talking about repealing gay people's marriages, that's difference than saying philosophically i may not agree with the issue. >> but it passed. >> last year it finally won after five years. >> what the media reports on this did not include was his position was identical to the three leading candidates for the republican party -- >> not prop 8. >> you can talk about prop 8, but this is about gay marriage. he believed at the time marriage was a sacrament based on a relationship between a man and a woman. hillary clinton did, as well. senator obama and senator clinton did get the endorse thement of the human rights campaign despite their position on the gay marriages issue. >> but the entire debate about brendan ike is about something he did, contribute money in 2008, yet as amy says, i'm not -- >> no, president obama and hillary clinton came clean. they are not sticking with their positions in 2008. brandon ike is. >> but in 2008 -- >> but the gay rights community -- >> no, did we attack brendan ike in 2008? no. >> the same community is going after -- >> right. >> wait, wait, wait, wait. >> look at the way this is being reported. an editor of business insider, for example, went on bbc and compared this man's position on traditional marriage to supporting the kkk. what i'd like to tell that business editor that, in fact, the democratic party, senator robert byrd did have a former member of the kkk representing them and i never heard the "business insider" editor denouncing the democratic party or trying to run him out of office. >> let's go back to the issue at hand which is no one was attacking brendan ike in 203089. today, brendan ike wants to run a large american corporation having called for the repeal of 18,000 gay marriages. barack obama, you know because i've written for you about it, barack obama, we beat the bejesus out of that man on gay marriage. obama came around and -- >> john, john, john. >> would you have a holocaust denier as a cl eo of a company? wait a minute, we are talking about whether there is unfettered free speech for corporate ceos. >> of course there is, but -- the. >> so now we're just saying -- i -- if you think a holocaust denier shouldn't -- if you think a holly kauft denier shouldn't be the ceo then there -- >> gay rights with the hole lolocaust? that's outrageous. >> it is outrageous. i'm saying we should not get a ceo position. >> we'll pick this up in just a moment. i want to turn back to lauren and talk about the coverage of this issue. the "new york times" put this on the front page. the network news casts didn't have time to talk about this. and i have to ask you, what would the coverage have looked like if this was flipped, if brendan ike, ceo of the mozilla company had been ousted, pushed out the did door essentially by employee revolt because he was in favor of same-sex marriage and contributed money to an initiative on that side? >> okay. let's just give another example. what about abortion? what if this had happened about abortion? the left would be going crazy. we would see this wall to wall on msnbc. >> what does this tell us about the media coverage? >> well, it tells us that we have a liberal media for the most part. >> at least on social issues? >> on social issues, on gay issues, on abortion, on other issues in front of the supreme court like religious freedom. >> but when they cover the issues we're told it's a liberal media, i would say it's ill liberal because they didn't care. to me, they didn't care as a gay man that we had a great success. to me, that shows they didn't care and i don't think of that as being a good liberal thing. >> do you consider the -- ike a great success of scalping this man and ruining his business life, his career and his reputation because of a position he held that as we all know -- >> i think that as we all -- >> as president of the united states -- >> excuse me, the president of the united states was not for repealing gay marriages and -- >> he was for marriage being between a man and a woman. >> stop, stop, stop, you are not -- please let me answer the question. >> john, let amy speak and i'll come back to you. >> a, the president spoke out against prop 8 in 2008, and b, liberals with myself taking the lead ripped the man to shreds on this position. it was my blog that got the president to admit that he would evolve on gay marriage. >> john, you've made your point. let me ask you another question and i'll let you respond. >> we did not let him get away. >> i was old enough to remember when gay people mostly stayed in the closet because they were concerned for their jobs. i would think that you would have a special sensitivity and you indicated some conflicting feelings. is it your feeling that no one what holds the traditional position, which is still the law in most states, that no one who holds the traditional position that marriage is between a man and a woman should be able to run a company? should be able to be employed? where do you draw the line? >> no. and i basically said this week that i would not oppose ceos who don't agree with gay marriage. i think from the gay community's perspective, it is something different when you go and you are trying to repeal civil rights, which is what prop 8 was. i'm just telling you, people were outraged because they literally took rights away from people. >> so on if you had stood up, if brendan ike had stood up to the world and said i am against gay marriage, you wouldn't call for his head? >> had he not given 2 money? >> had he not given the money. >> had he not given the money, i would have been much less outraged and in this case his staff and the board of directors revolted. >> i have to wrap it. >> prop 8 was a voter initiative to overturn a judge's decision and to enforce california law at that time. prop 8 defined marriage. prop 8 was to define marriage as between a man and a woman and there are many, many catholics all around the world -- >> it repealed gay marriage in the state. >> it repealed a judge's decision. >> let's go back to media coverage. look at what a spirited debate we're having right here. and you said "the washington post" buried this the story. that is exactly the point. >> okay. and, you know, brendan ike didn't do much to defend himself in the press. he said i don't want to talk about my personal beliefs because i kept them out of mozilla for 15 years. i don't believe they're relevant. obviously this huge debate now is making them relevant and appreciate the chance to have an honest discussion about this. when we come back, we're going to talk about the coverage of obamacare. we're going to get to it earlier, but i didn't want to interrupt that conversation. send me a tweet during this show. we'll read some of them later in the program. also when we come back, bob beckles on the frustrations of trying to defend the obama white house. >> i've talked to the white house and said why don't you guys give us something, anything to work with those of us that are out on here in the trenches. very intensive coverage of obamacare this week as the administration announced that it absolutely xooet exceeded the 7 million enrollments target. here is a quick look at how various channels covered it. >> the problem with this number has always been the problem with this number. that is that it really wasn't going to mean very much. >> these numbers that they are touting are phony numbers. >> it is amazing, this is a huge night for this man right here. this guy who campaigned on hope and change has delivered the mail. period. >> whatever the problem with these numbers, and certainly there are problematic, shouldn't the media credit the administration with at least making up a lot of ground after the complete debacle of the obamacare rollout which was so heavily covered? >> it certainly depends on your point of view if the administration did make ground when you consider 6 million people lost their coverage under obamacare and we don't know how many of those people were driven on to the exchanges to reacquire health care. >> do you think the number of people who lost compared to the people that signed up has been missing? >> i think it has been missing. so i think it was self-serving propaganda for the administration to reach this 7.million inspect goal that the health and human services committee rolled out last fall. >> all administrations point out self-serving propaganda, john, but don't the nay sayers have a point that we don't know how many of these 7 million have paid, they had their insurance canceled? >> the full story will always remain untold. but what we know from the media narrative is three weeks ago we were told by the ap that it would be a quote/unquote miracle if we reached 7 million. we were told a week ago on fox by what's his name, karl rove, carl had his whiteboard out and did this whole analysis. you would have to have 8 million in order to get 7 million. it was never going to happen. and as amy or lauren said, the coverage of the website debacle, i ripped them apart on the website. it was a disaster. there has been ample coverage of obamacare to suggest the media is bias about it is strong. they got their goal. when you want to haggle up the numbers, whether it was right or wrong, the bottom line is nobody thought they would get the goal of 7 million and they did. >> lauren. >> i think there's still a lot of unanswered questions. you can say, they can say this is a victory, but there's a lot of things that are wrong, not the website, not just the website, but if you look at maryland's exchange, right? up the street here, it was a complete failure and they're using connecticut's system. so at the press conference that president obama had, he said to the media, hey, there are going to be a lot of problems. >> oh, i have that in reserves. >> i wouldn't describe it at the press korns because didn't take any questions. here st a president with the victory lap. >> well, press just want you to anticipate, there will be some moment when the website is down and i think it will be on all your pages. it's going to happen. it won't be news. >> i'm sorry, we will decide what's news, thank you very much. >> will you address that to the president? >> president obama, we will decide. >> let's get to the point that there are still unanswered questions. what do you need, a magic eight ball? we have reporters who are supposed to get down to those questions asking the questions of the administration. >> and we haven't been? there's been to critical coverage of the obamacare in the, los angeles last three years? are you kidding me? >> and to ask -- >> actually, what -- >> hold on, please. >> finish because i want to respond. >> and to ask the administration the 7 million number of enro enrollme enrollments. enrollments in this case is a squishish term. aren't we moving the goal posts when what obamacare was supposed to do was to cover the uninsured? >> obamacare promised to have 7 million people covered and it did. secondly, we keep hearing stories of people who got basically screwed over. we heard it from the state of the union and found out that story was wrong. we had three people on hand talking about how their coverage got destroyed. we have had story after story after story. i don't know that there's a single obamacare horror story that ended up being true. we have had ample coverage. do we need more? sure. >> on the cable news, 6:00 p.m. thursday, shootings. msnbc and fox, gop still out to repeal obamacare. >> i just want to take the last half minute to talk about something, that is the general motors scandal, which is an absolute outrage, a failure of both the company which covered up these ignition switches for ten years, i'm surprised it hasn't been more of a cable news story. maybe because there's no clear villain, mary barra just took over gm, because the "new york times" did a good job reporting this. it deserved more coverage. i wish we had more time. thanks very much for joining us. up next, david letterman says he's giving up his desk. what's his television legacy? and is he the last of the late night liberals? and later, an nbz sclc excl. george w. bush interviewed by his daughter. >> congratulations, dad. this is pretty exciting. >> well, it's -- yeah. who would have thought it? he was a kid, really, when he debuted on nbc's late night, lost out to jay leno for "the tonight show" and jumped to cbs. david letterman became known as a quirky guy with a smile and for his political views. he had to apologize for this joke about a ball game. >> one awkward moment for sarah palin at the yankee game. during the seventh inning, her daughter was knocked up by alex rodriguez. >> wow. and he likes sparring with bill o'reiley. >> so working your way up, does that really apply to fox? >> joining us now from new york is mariesa guthrie. the media critics love dave, just like they couldn't stand jay leno. what would you say was dave's impact on the whole late night culture? >> well, i think dave was the most incisive interviewer since johnny carson. i think that's why he'll be missed, within of the main reasons he'll be missed. you see the late night hosts now, what they're doing is things that go viral, the guest interview is sort of an after thought for them. for dave, the guest interview was the thing. and he interviewed, you know, people of all political stripes. it's something you just don't see in the broadcast late night shows now. >> well, he did do stupid pet tricks. >> and stupid human tricks. >> and stupid human tricks. but my next stupid human trick, i will ask you about the political edge that dave often seemed to have, not just with sarah palin, but he always felt comfortable i think being a new york liberal, he talked about gun control after newtown. what's your take on that? >> and don't forget the interview he did with john mccain when mccain was running against obama. i think you can do that in new york and that was so much of dave's style was to sort of, you know, take the you know out of people, out of guests. and i think for him, i mean, his political bent, as you said, howie, was not a secret. so you knew if you were john mccain and you got in that chair, remember that interview he did, mccain canceled, said he had to fly back to washington but then he didn't have to fly back to washington doing another interview. >> and he was taunting him every night. >> and that is the comedian's way of, you know, stick thing it to somebody in the audience. the guy who shows up late for the show. so i think that that's -- if you gave dave an in like that, he would take it and run with this. >> i don't think any of the younger comics who followed him, whether it's conan, jimmy fallon, jimmy kimmel don't seem to have that edge to talk about politics on any part of the spectrum. maybe they think it turns the audience off. now, in all pieces i've read and i've read a lot of them about david letterman, i didn't see mentioned something i spent a lot of time covering in 2009. that was the sex scandal that he was embroiled in. he would have been the target of a $2 million extortion plot. let's take a quick look at what letterman said to his audience when he revealed this. >> the creepy stuff was that i have had sex with women who work for me on this show. now, my response to that is, yes, i have. >> and those women included an intern. how was it when so many other politicians and corporate leaders are brought out with this sort of thing that dave was ultimately able to escape? >> he's a comedian, right? i hope we don't hold comedians to the same standard as politicians. maybe we should. i think dave is -- >> but he's also a boss. he's a employer. >> he's also a boss, he's also a employer, but he's a comedian. i think dave's brill yantance and the reason these didn't become more of a pornl indictment was because he went on his showed and talked about all of them. he brought the scandal out in the open. he brought the audience into it. he explained it to the audience. i'm not saying it was right. and i -- but i think that that's why he got away with it. he wasn't engaged in this cover-up. he didn't go on his show the next day and pretend like nothing happened. >> right. and he made an apology a few days later after some people thought he had taken it too lightly. now, the big question has been, who is taking over the show next year. odds on favorite is stephen colbert. his name has popped up. do you think he would be a good fit? do you have your own candidate? let's join the game. >> i know bs has been looking hard at stephen colbert. they went off john oliver for 12:30. craig ferguson has not emerged at dave's heir apparent after several years being in the 12:30 slot. so i think colbert would do it. i think he's willing to do it. he may want to do it. he would have to, i think, drop the news -- the obtuse news anchor persona in order to satisfy the sort of broad kind of show that cbs would want to do at 11:30. i think he'd be great at it. >> not -- we won't be seeing the steven co steven colbert on comedy central. >> we'll see. >> thank you for joining us from new york. ahead on "media buzz," bob beckel on verbal combat with the five and some physical combat outside fox headquarters. and later, how jenny mccarthy and sherry shepherd gave their audience quite a view. a trip to the south pacific with her parents. i'm jamie colby. see you again at the top of the hour for america's news headquarters. anyone who watches the five knows that bob beckel is outnumbered on that show. the former democratic strategist carries the liberal banner at 5:00 and has the scars to show for it. but i had to change my first question the moment i saw him in new york. >> bob beckel, welcome. >> thank you, howie. >> i can't help but notice that your hand is bandaged. did you finally get fed up at the five and take a swing at somebody? >> no, i didn't. somebody took some heat -- some jerk outside starts talking about my politics. he can't stand it, right? so i go through this the all the time. this guy kept pushing me and pushing me so i gave him a tap back and i dislocated my fingers, which proves that you never want to fight, right? and i'm too old for this stuff, howie. it's no good. >> do you get a lot of heat on e-mail, as well? obviously the five is mostly four against one. >> yeah. i'm outnumbered everyplace i go. i'm used to it. i have a thick skin. i must get a thousand contacts a week from people saying, you know, you commie son of a b. and i e-mail them back and said thank you for your nice words. was it your mother who married her brother or your sfaer who married his sister. >> douveng people tune in to road against you? >> oh, sure. sure. the line i hear over and over again, you're my favorite liberal, which is not necessarily a compliment, but after a while, i think what makes the five work is we have good chemistry and we don't carry it off the set and we don't scream at each other. it's not a crossfire format. and i think people are tired of that. i think people want to hear people differ, but they don't want to hear people scream about it. >> we're here one-on-one, so the odds are even. you are often cast as being a defender of barack obama. do you feel like if fox news, the president often doesn't get the benefit of the doubt? >> oh, sure. but i accepted that in the beginning. look, i have to defend database on the other hand, obama has a lot of this the on his own shoulders because i have to defend him every day. some days i feel like i'm the only fire plug in a westminster dog show. i've talked to the white house and said why don't you guys give us something, anything to work with, those of us out here in the trenches. you know, there always seems to be something. you know, like health care, today is a good day for them. they've got 7 million people, right? or last friday was. and this is a big deal. but it's been sold so badly. and they've got no message that's worth a [ expletive ] as far as i can tell. >> do you talk to the white house regularly? yeah. i used to talk to them more than i do now. >> why is that? >> they're not big fans of fax, more her than him. michelle obama. but i still have contacts. they'll whisper to me when i call, but at least they'll give me what i need. >> i know you think the president has had a pretty good record in office, but the last year, problems with syria, problems with russia, invading crimea, it must be hard for you some days to be in that role. >> i don't go by talking points. i mean, i can criticize obama. and i think they have -- they've got it -- for somebody who has such a good message campaign, two of them, his messaging from the oval office is not as good as it should be. i'm surprised with a guy as articulate as that can't express himself or besides that get wind the message. that's the real part of it. it wasn't just fox news in the conservative blogosphere. it was the mainstream media. one of the reasons was they set expectations high. they couldn't meet him. >> the mainstream media jumped all over the pb because the website was a complete debacle. >> i agree. he doesn't get criticism just from the right wing. but a lot of this stuff they have to own. this is not something that you can say oh, ghee, i'm getting beat up. but that's the problem. >> but a lot of people here at fox as you know think the mainstream media, that broad term, are still swooning over the president. there was a lot of that in 2008. you have to admit. >> sure. >> but in the second term, do you think he's getting gentle treatment from the press. >> no, not at all. this idea that because they don't criticize him as much as people at fox do, then all of a sudden they're being treated with kid gloves. that's not the case. look at the obamacare coverage. look at what happened in syria. he's been beat up a lot. and a lot of it he's brought on himself. i accept that. but look, the fact is they say don't compare it to bush. the fact of the matter is, a lot more people are working, we're not in a recession, there's a lot of things that are going right and i think in the end, the big mistake is to make obamacare the central part of their campaign, the republicans. that's a mistake. we'll see about that. now, you sometimes say controversial things, for example, after the boston bombing you said that the students from muslim countries should be denied visas. on another program, it sounded like you were trying to minimize the rape on campus. >> the rape thing i regret because of the way it was interpreted. i didn't try to minimize it. but on the muslim thing, the thing that amazed me about it whether it was after the boston marathon or any of the other terrorist acts, i've never heard somebody from a muslim country say it's the wrong thing to do. so i've been very tough on them and they've been conversely very tough on me. they've contacted fax and i get -- i haven't had a jihad put on me yet, but i did make the front page of the papers in saudi arabia and iraq. i think that's great. i said there were 75,000 muslims in this country on student visas, which are not difficult to get. 15,000 of them never showed up at the schools they were supposed to go to. i said let's find them. you would have thought i said your mother has diseases. but they still don't say they're sorry. >> bottom line, you stand by the comments. you famously served as walter mondale's campaign manager. >> and you fakusly had to mention that. >> i did. how did that experience shape your views as a commentator. you've been in and out and that was one campaign you got into. >> let me put it this way. only in america can you manage the largest loss in the history of american politics and get on air as a political analyst. so i think i did already by it. i did -- >> you survived the reagan landslide. >> but i was up against reagan twice. anybody who thought this guy was stupid, believe me, i've got his licensed plate tattooed on the top of my head. >> but sometimes it's not really -- it's easy to criticize from the arm chair, know what it takes to win a campaign. >> that's one of the biggest problems. whether it's a democrat or republican on distinguish, political strategist, i hate that word. if you've gone out and done campaigns, you have a right to talk about it. if you don't, it's no different than talking to your great uncle. you have to be out and having done it. i did a lot of it. i think i can talk about it. you may not agree with me, but at least i know how it works. it's people, including anchors, i know you talk about politics. because you used too hang around and bug us all the time. but a lot of the press people don't go out and experience politics. so when they ask thrm questions, they're not informed. they don't have a history of it to ask good, solid questions. >> it's become more antiseptic. a lot of the report sg done through e-mail and twitter and all that rather than being on that bus. bob beckel, thanks very much for joining us. coming up, cnn is still all over the missing plane story in every possible sighting. jon stewart has the videotape. 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>> this looks like the debris field from an airplane crash. it may not be, but it has the signature look of it. >> perhaps it really wasn't the debris we thought it was. >> breaking news, a thai satellite found 300 objects. >> pieces of debris, whether they're from the plane or not we simply don't know. >> another day, no confirmed plane debris. >> basically, cnn has become this guy. >> let me try to be fair to cnn's viewpoint. the network is very good at international reporting. there is a real story, a mystery with public interest. black holes and sdwomby planes aside, why not pursue it aggressively? >> could this be a season of big earthquakes? >> possibly the big one could be neck. >> is this a sign of what so many people feared. >> the 86% chaps of a magnitude 7.0 or greater earthquake hitting california in the next 30 years? >> the damage and the loss of life is catastrophic. >> so if the big one happened, it's going to pop, literally pop los angeles up like a cork. >> oh, well. wake me when the big one comes. after the break, george w. bush not exactly grilled on the "today" show. more of a family affair. and the ladies of the view bearing more than their opinions. time now for our video verdict. the "today" show billed it as an exclusive with george w. bush talking about his first ever art exhibit and the nbc correspondent who got this scoop, jenna bush hager, talking to her dad, her mom and her grandmother. >> so you started off with a self-portrait. >> yeah. >> you think you got to the soul of you? >> you're going to have to ask other people who know me better, such as yourself. >> is this something you ever thought ten years ago would have happened? >> no, no. if you would have said to me that, one, you'd be working for nbc and, two, that i'd be having a gallery full of paintings, i'd have said neither. >> come on! what do you think, did he get to the soul? >> i think maybe he did. >> bush's paintings were fascinating but all this giggling and the stuff about gamps, kind of a family affair. i don't know what this was, but it wasn't journalism. >> what's wrong with you? it's a morning show. it's sweet, it's cute and these paintings are cute. it was on the front page of "the new york times" on saturday. >> which means a reporter not related to the former president of the united states should not have conducted the interview. >> it would not have been the same interview if matt lauer had done it. we got much more personal info. >> chelsea clinton also works for nbc. should we interview her mother? >> i don't think so, because he's not in office. >> i'm giving this a two. >> i'm giving it an eight. it was really interesting television. and it was an eye-catching moment on "the view." jenny mccarthy and sherri shepard were moaning about how lena dunham gets all this attention for taking off her clothes again and again on the hbo show "girls." they played a clip of the partially naked star and then came back on camera. >> lena gets cred every week for being naked. we're jumping on the bandwagon. wait a minute, why is my big black box so much bigger than yours? >> oh, my gosh! >> you've got a cube and i got a rectangle box. >> take time to enjoy our view. >> okay. how's this? >> you don't need a black box, you're fully dressed. put those down. >> but it's -- it's cheap. it's a cheap stunt to do a tv show naked. can you imagine barbara walters doing this? i don't think so. >> oh, so you're not in favor of this fifth of frivolity. >> no. and jenny even said we want more ratings too, and then she said "enjoy our view." >> we've seep plenty of jenny mccarthy. she's been in "playboy." it was sad, it was cheap, it was tabloidy. it was a desperate cry for ratings and i'm giving it a 10. >> i'm giving it a 2. >> all right. still to come, your best tweets and how "60 minutes" made a very loud mistake. test flush >> good morning. it is monday april 7th. they are calling it their best lead yet. australian officials say they have also heard signals that could be from the missing plane's black box. the desperate ryes for time in the hunt for the m h370. more breaking news overnight hollywood mourning the loss of a legend. he started his career before the age of 10 in films, mickey rooney dead at 93. >> moveover taylor smith. talking ho-- move over taylor smith. the top entertainer of the year. >> i heard it was the fan favorite so rist my case. >> who were the biggest winners? we will show you straight ahead. >> "fox & friends first" starts right now. >> good morning. you are watching "fox & friends first" on this monday morning. i am heather childers. >> thank you for start rg your week with us. hollywood mourning the loss of a legend. while you were sleeping news breaking this actor mickey rooney has died at the age of 93. >> kel rewright has a look at his life. >> he was only about 5 foot 5 not your typical leading man in hollywood, but mickey rooney always seemed destined to be a big star. >> you think you are going to make a plow jockey out of me you got another thing coming. >> he was born as joel you'll jr. his parents were vaudeville entertainers. he earned his first oscar nomination with judy garland. >> took on more serious roles and in