Program as far as im concerned and it involves you my friend. You are the Senior Research psychologist at the American Institute for Behavioral Research and technology, former editorinchief of psychology today, founder and director emeritus at the Cambridge Center for behavioral studies in massachusetts, you received your phd in 1981 from harvard university, just to get some of those out here, i want to read something to you, something you wrote a few years back in politico. You said there are at least three very real scenarios whereby google, perhaps even without the leaders knowledge could shape or even decide the election next year. Whether or not google executives see it this way, the employees who constantly adjust the algorithms are manipulate people every minute of every day. The adjustments make increasingly influence our thinking including our voting preferences. You add that our research leaves little doubt about whether google has the ability to control those in the online experiments conducted in the united states. We were able to boost the proportion of those between 37 and 63 after just one search session. The impact of doing bias rankings repeatedly over periods of weeks and months would have undoubtedly been larger. Google is massive. Almost everybody uses google. How are they able to manipulate vote. What are they doing. If Google Search results, for any reason are biased to favor one candidate or one party for any reason, that will shift a lot of opinions about that candidate and a lot about sin in fact it can shift millions of votes. It doesnt matter whether an employee or an executive at google did this deliberately. The algorithm alone, a Computer Program could be doing this and it will fil still affect the outcome of elections. Are they trying to affect the outcome of election. I dont know for sure. There have been a number of leaks recently from google, theres even been some whistleblowers who are saying google has a very Strong Political bias internally that they lean left which i tend to do as well that they are deliberate in wanting to affect. Im interested in what you found. Are they biased or not. Be very specific. What happened in 2016 in the president ial election. In 2015 i set up the first ever Monitoring System that allowed me to it look over the some shoulders of a Diverse Group of american voters. There were 95 people in 24 states, i looked at politically oriented searches that these people were conducting on google and yahoo i was able to preserve more than 13000 searches and 98000 webpages and i found very dramatic bias in Google Search results, not being or yahoo, neighboring Hillary Clinton whom i supported strongly, but the point is i reported that, i reported what i found and that level of bias was sufficient to have shifted over time somewhere between 2. 6 and 10. 4 million votes to hillary without anyone knowing that it occurred. And so how does that get accomplished, these algorithms that are changed and adjusted and so forth, but to have that significant of an impact obviously someone or something wants someone to win and someone to lose. So the person who goes on google, how does that manifest. If you go out to google and you type in anything thats election related, that could be hundreds of things, you can type in immigration or you type in the law or you can think of all the things that are related to election. The point is you end up with some search suggestions that are flashed at you as you are typing. We now know those search suggestions have a very very powerful effect on people and that they alone can shift opinions and votes dramatically, and then search results appear below and the point is, if theres a bias in them which means, if a search result of high up on the list, if it takes you to a webpage that makes one candidate look better than another, if you are undecided and youre trying to make up your mind, what weve learned is that information posted high in Google Search results will shift opinions among undecided people dramatically because People Trust Google and they especially trust highranking search results. Thats why 50 of all clicks go to the top two items. Is that what google did. Well again, i cant say what they did but i can tell you what we found, we found a very dramatic pro Hillary Clinton bias on google, but not the other Search Engine and in all ten search positions on the first page of search results, thats quite dramatic. So its only google, its frontloaded, pro hillary, anti trump, walden who does it if google doesnt do it, it just happens . Somebody has to put information in for information to be prioritized. And what google tends to say in these types of situations is, its an organic phenomenon, organic like organic food meaning its all generated by users, entirely the fault of users. The point is thats nonsense. In the controlled experiments i run, i determine which candidate is favored in search results or i can mix up the search results so they favor neither candidate. So google actually has total control over what users see so to blame this kind of bias on users, it just makes no sense. Pedestrians, these algorithms, these models that are set up, people set up algorithms, they dont set themselves up. Well people create the algorithms to begin with for sure, and as one of the recent whistleblowers from google has said, we make them do exactly what we want them to do, but the fact is google also acknowledges adjusting their algorithm at least 600 times. Year and we also now know for sure because of leaks that google uses blacklists internally and they also do re ranking, d ranking, fringe ranking, they are constantly making manual adjustments to what we see so they have contro control, whether they deny this or not, they have complete control over what we see and if theres bias favoring one candidate or one party or one dog food, the fact is they have control over that. Has google in terms of the company, the executives shown political bias in the past. Its a matter of record that their top executives and most of their employees have a very strong liberal bias. I synthesize with that, i just, i dont like the fact that the bias is getting expressed in a way thats really, in my opinion, interfering with the free and Fair Election, but typically 95 or more of donations from google go to democrats the former head of Google Eric Schmidt offered in writing to run Hillary Clintons Tech Campaign in 2016, Hillary Clinton chief Technology Office officer, a woman named Stephanie Hanan right before she came over to hillarys team she was an executive at google and google and alphabet, the parent company, they were hillarys largest donors in 2016. Let me just say here for the record so the audience know, the ceo of google wants to come on this program and sit in this chair and have a 40 minute discussion with me, you are more than welcome. I have no problem with equal time. In fact, i encourage it. 2018, democrats picked up a whole bunch of seats. Did you monitor that to. We did some monitoring in 2018, this time we had more than a hundred 60 field agents. We deliberately focused, because midterm election, on three staunchly republican districts in Orange County california thinking perhaps maybe if there is some something going on with search results, maybe we would pick it up in those counties. In all three counties the democrat won so they were flipped and we measured substantial bias, liberal bias in the Google Search engine, but not being or yahoo. Thats very, very important that were finding it in one Search Engine but not the others. That level of bias easily, very easily could account for the win margins that occurred in each of those districts, and even more problematic here, if that level of bias had been present in google nationwide for all the districts, for all the races, that would have shifted to democrats upwards of 78point to million votes spread across many races, but the point is, its enormous. Theres two big problems besides the fact that its a lot of votes. This is occurring subliminally. Its occurring without peoples knowledge. People cant see the bias in search results. Lets stop there, subliminally, i want to pick up their and that people cant find the bias. This is a very important point. This is probably where theres people who will disagree in the fayette sublimina subliminal. I want to get into this because its an important point. Dont forget to check out levintv most weeknights. You can go to place tb. Com mark and sign up there. Dont forget 14 weeks on the new york best sellers list. 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So doctor epstein, where we left, you said these things can be subliminal, theres no paper trail, so how do we know. If someone on my staff brings me search results that theyre getting ready to use in an experiment that run a lot of controlled randomized experiments, i can even tell that there is bias. I can even see it. How would you know. You have to click on all the links and see what the webpages look like and then you have to make sense of it all, its virtually impossible so when we do big studies, its typical that 95 of the people in the study cant detect any bias even though were showing them highly bias search results. Thats exactly the number we got in a National Study we did in india in 2014. We had more than 2000 undecided voters throughout india participating in our study and we shifted opinions and votes exactly as we had done in other studies in other countries, but 95. 9 of people in the study couldnt see the bias. This is where it really gets creepy. The very, very small number of people who can see the bias, they shift even farther in the direction of the bias so merely being able to see it doesnt protect you from it. And theres no paper trail so google can say this gentlemans all well and good, hes very interesting, but prove it, but you prove it throughout, you prove it through tracking it. Normally thats right there is no paper trail, thats exactly right, in fact, internally at google, we know this from an email that leaked the wall street journal last year, they called these femoral experiences. Whats that mean. That means you type in a search term and their flashing suggestions that you, those are very powerful manipulators. The point is there just flashing at you and they disappear. Then search results appear and maybe you click on something and then that disappears. Its ephemeral. Its shortlived, its not stored anywhere and once its gone you cant go back in time and reconstruct it. They know this so we know this now from some of the leagues, they understand the power that up femoral experience has, they shift opinions on anything and to shift voting preferences. 2016 i built the first ever system to preserve these expenses. What i was preserving in the months leading up to the president ial election was search results on google, bing and yahoo. Basically by looking over peoples shoulders with their permission and capturing that stuff before disappears. If you dont have Monitoring Systems in place, all of these experiences are gone so the programmers, the executives, they understand how this works so well, but the point is once these experiences have an impact on people, they disappear and authorities cannot trace them. 2016 google went full out if i understand your writings for hillary and against trump. But trump won. How do you explain that. I dont think google or facebook or these other Tech Companies actually went full out. I think they held back, theres a number of things that i study now beyond search results which can also be used to shift opinions and votes to flip elections, theres many indications that a lot of these techniques were not being used, i think they were overconfident, they were certain that Hillary Clinton would win, i think they were more aggressive in 2018, i have some evidence to support that, and im pretty sure in 2020 they will go all out. In other words they will use every possible technique. When you say in 2020 theyre going to go all out to defeat trump and promote democrat nominees, that means right up into election day pushing these agendas . For example, if they put on their site, as they did in the past, go vote. Print. [inaudible] i published an article that included all the calculations showing this was just vote manipulation. That something i am now studying and understanding better, but the point is that that would have, lets put it this way, google knows full well that more democrats and leftleaning people like myself use google than republicans do. They know that. They know the exact numbers so they know if they present a go vote prompt, they know thats going to have a bigger impact on democrats than republicans and i calculated that one manipulation in 2018 gave at least 800,000 more votes to democrats than to republicans, but thats an example of another kind of very, very subtle manipulation which, on its surface doesnt even look like manipulation. It looks like a public service. This is fascinating to me. I want to pursue this a little bit more. Google knows whos using google and they know a lot about each and every one of us. They know if they put go vote because theres more democrats than liberals that use it, that means their ability to try to effect the outcome of election is quite scientific. 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The impact of doing bias rankings repeatedly over a period of weeks and months would undoubtedly be larger so this is ubiquitous and the more they do it, obviously, the more theyre able to tip the scale toward one candidate or another, correct. Yes and i have no doubt this is occurring this very moment, but without Monitoring Systems in place that capture ephemeral experience, theres no way to know. Im sure right now, for example, theyre having an impact on whos registering to vote. They will impact the way the primaries go. They will have a big say in who gets nominated by the democrats. They are using this power, at least thats what the whistleblowers suggest chemical using this power ive been studying for a long time. They are using it and its not just on election day. Theyre going to be using every subtle day leading up to election day. You been doing these studies for some time now. These leaks, these whistleblowers come out of google and youre saying wait a minute, thats what my study shows. Actually what i really say is i told you so. So how does the average person defend themselves against this. First of all you have to be insane if youre actually using google. Com. You have to be nuts. I use being, personally. One saying because we havent even talked about the surveillance problem, the massive tracking thats occurring, the censorship problem, what im saying is you shouldnt even be using google. Com. You shouldnt be using gmail or chrome, thats another surveillance tool. But the point is, what you say to people were using these things, you say look, just the surveillance issue alone should make you think twice. You go into google, its a free country, you can use whatever you want. If you want to use it as a Search Engine chemical into google, the information youre giving us just be alerted to this fact but if youre alerted to it, people are unaware there being psychologically manipulated, in the sense being pushed in one direction or another and being fed limited information or biased information and that sort of thing. Used to call this propaganda spirit is not a proper word. This goes way beyond propaganda or any kind of manipulation thats ever existed before in history. For example, you start to type a search term in that box and in fact your viewers can do this right now. My Research Shows two things and then i will tell your viewers how they can test this. My Research Shows just by manipulating the suggestions they flash at you as your typing we can, in our experiments turn a 5050 split among undecided voters into a 90 10 split with no one having the slightest idea that we manipulated them. Were doing this just by manipulating the suggestions we flash. Youre being manipulative from the very first character you type. If you doubt that, type the letter a. If you type the letter a theres a pregood chance that when those suggestions flash at you, in the first second or third position you will see amazon. You might even see it into positions or all three because amazon is googles largest advertiser and google sends more traffic to amazon than any other traffic source. These are Business Partners and google wants you to go there. They are constantly nudging you with these suggestions when they finally show you that list down below, believe me, they know what theyre doing. They understand the power that those search suggestions half. The search results. The answer boxes that theyre showing you. Weve gone from a Search Engine to something much much bigger than that and whats odd to me, we know more about exxon mobil activities inside and outside that company, what they do day today, we know more about most major corporations in this country and they really dont hide it anymore, they really dont know about these Tech Companies. We dont know how google functions. I watch these hearings, these members of congress, some of them are knuckleheads but some of them are serious people trying to get information. You dont get information and is not just google. Its other companies two. Facebook and so forth. Its as if they have built a cone of secrecy about their Bubble Corporation and you cant break into what they are doing and how they are manipulating. Here you are, one guy, maybe with a handful of helpers from the outside, monitoring this limited budget, limited personnel and youre able to, because of your background and experience in years and years of working on this kind of subject, youre able to find a significant amount of evidence showing the manipulation. I want to show thi pursue this a little bit more what we get back. Call 844 levintv or go to blaze tv. Com mark and look at this. On freedom of the press. We sold almost half a million copies. Thank you. Well be right back. To homes than anyone else in the country. [ scoffs ] if you say so. Im sorry . What teach here isnt telling you is that snapshot rewards safe drivers with discounts on car insurance. What . Or maybe he didnt know. [ chuckles ] im done with this class. Youre not even enrolled in this class. I know. Im supposed to be in ceramics. Do you know room 303. Oh. Thank you. Yeah. Good luck, everybody. Oh. Thank you. Yeah. 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I believe believe were still worth the fight youll see theres hope for this world tonight i believe, i believe doctor Robert Epstein this isnt just happening in the united states, right, its happening in other countries. You have an election coming up in israel in ten days with intranet yahoo. I take it the same groups of people at google who do not like President Trump probably do not like Prime Minister benjamin net yahoo since they are supportive of each other. Are they probably doing the same thing. They have the ability, the power, its hard to imagine based on the recent leaks that theyre not exercising that power. The problem though is that without Monitoring Systems that are capturing ephemeral experiences will never know. The other thing that strikes me as i talk to you is, they are having an anonymous effect on elections, true . Correct and theyre going to go all out in 2020 against trump, true. I believe they will. I believe they will, but im no longer obsessed with the deliberateness part of it because even if its just their algorithm not passiveaggressive is still aggressive, right. So their algorithms are based on 2016, they are anti trump. Let me put it, theyre not pro trump. Its hard to imagine that their algorithm or their employees are pro trump. It is hard to imagine that. And they can do more in 2020 than they did in 2016. Oh yes. Back then i was only studying one kind of subtle manipulation. Ive identified since then about a dozen. There are a lot of things they can do. These whistleblowers you talk about, have any of the whistleblowers said google is moving to the right, there moving conservatively, they like trump. Have you found any of that. No. The people they been firing or the people who have been quitting are all conservative. Have you found any information that demonstrates they are Anti Democrat Party or anti liberal. Quite contrary. 2020 could be tough if google gets away with this because youre saying taken affect millions and millions of votes. In a close election that could tip the balance. Of calculated in 2020 are actually about 50 million votes on the line. Thats how many votes could be shifted possibly by these very subtle largely invisible online techniques. The federal election commission. You know, whether you believe in these Campaign Laws are not, you might have a problem with some of those but there they are and you have to comply with them. The visuals are limited on how much they can give in the primary, 2700 max, a total of 5400. You have these huge packs of companies that they can set up for advocacy purposes, set up tax as well, they have significant amounts you can donate but there still limits, but google can influence an election is youre saying in a significant way and they do have to report anything to the fec. What would you suggest that the value of their influence in american dollars might be. If they would allow companies to buy the influence that they are actually having it would be in the billions. Its priceless really because again, they can do things on a massive scale that no company, no campaign can do, and they can do things invisibly, thats hard for campaign to do, and they can do things in a way that leaves no paper trail. A kind of hit and run tactics. Hit and pull out, no paper trail, someday like you takes a picture of it and says okay, now i have a trail for you, but is anyone doing other than you . To my knowledge, and this is sad to say, but to my knowledge, at the moment theres just me and my helpers and my associates, thats it. It when we come back to my have a question for you for 2020. How are you or anyone else planning to monitor this. I dont mean just the election, but i mean the lead up to the elections of the American People can know whats taking place. 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Im hoping to build very large, very comprehensive Monitoring System, much larger than the systems are built before, and to monitor a wide variety of phenomena, email suppression, thats going on now, all kinds of throttling on youtube, shadow banning on twitter, newsfeeds that are highly bias, demoting certain news sources, promoting other sources so im hoping to build a very big system with a very large number of field agents in all 50 states to keep an eye on whats happening, and to use Artificial Intelligence to spot these shenanigans as they are occurring. If im unable to build that system, we will never know why the winner one. We will never know. Let me ask you this, the media, the mass modern media, the reception to your findings, how has that been . Until a couple weeks ago, reception was pretty good, but a couple weeks ago President Trump tweeted about some of my findings from 2016. He got a couple things slightly wrong then Hillary Clinton tweeted back at him saying my work had been debunked that it was all based on 21 undecided voters. It sounds like she got everything wrong. Blatantly wrong. You were hillary supporters. A huge hillary supporter. I have a signed letter from bill clinton in my wallet. Im a huge supporter of the clintons, and then Mainstream Media which is my media all, they all took up her message and at this moment in time, im a pariah. I dont understand how this happens. It makes no sense to me, but thats whats happened. I can tell you why it happened. If you try to bring an objective analysis to our electoral process and a very odious influence on that process that is under the radar. If we had real news operations needs other networks they would take what you report and did have some investigative reporters, new york times, Washington Post and they would pursue it and look into it, but they dont so they attack you, the Democrat Party press. Thats what i call it. You might want to rethink your ideology. All that said, if you find more and more information and yet the information is censored by the mass media, that makes it much more difficult, although you could go into the new media around the old media, around network tv, cable tv and so forth and go on to social media which i think is where your word is spreading and certain websites and so forth and put the message out, correct. I could, but its very, very hard to fight these companies because facebook controls the largest social media platform there is. If facebook wants to suppress your message they can. Google controls 92 of search worldwide. The next largest Search Engine controls 2. 5 of search so the point of this, if major media or the Tech Industry wants to suppress my findings which are, by the way, rocksolid, very carefully done, if they want to suppress my findings or they want to criticize me in some wa way, they are very hard to fight. 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Is it a little surprising to you being a liberal and supporting hillary that you receive the kind of reception you pad from the media and other liberal Democrat Party friendly outlets . Surprisingly its not quite the word. Upsetting, my head is spinning, that kind of thing sumac have you been personally attacked. Ive had a spo spotless reputation as a scientist and scholar for almost 40 years. My work meets the highest standards of scientific activity, always. Heres your notes, it spells out, youre more transparent than google, it spells out page after page after page and you dont think anyone in the media has read this other than me. I doubt it. Do you think don lemmons has read this . To think Andrea Mitchell has read the. That was from the proceedings of the National Academy of science as one of the top journals in the world, and that paper youre holding in your hand has been downloaded from their website more than 200,000 times and at least as of last year was ranked in the top 1 of all scientific papers in all fields, but now, i dont think many people have read it. Why do you think the media wont read it. I think theres a message here they dont want to hear. At the moment the Tech Companies, google especially are supporting people who lean left, supporting democrats, i like those, i like democrats, but you dont know who theyre going to sport next year. Thats a problem. What im saying is look, i think we should put democracy, our nation, the free and Fair Election ahead of any party or candidate. Thats my message. Thats why i been speaking out. The title of the report for america is the Search Engine manipulation affect and its possible impact on the outcome of elections. You can download this on being. Its been a great pleasure. Think user. Good luck. Keep up the work. We will monitor this to. Its very, very important. See you next time on life, liberty and within. Trumps lis. Stories you havent heard. And a warning for the country. There is a reason why democracies havent always succeeded in history. From washington, shannon bream. Shannon the supreme court. For many voters it was the deciding issue of the 2016 election. This hour the