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Or ebola or infectuous disease and the recent elections are just a dream and harry reid is still in charge of the september and nancy pelosi is the speaker again. And that is scary. Dont worry, that didnt hampttonight on the huckabee special. Threats to america and what ought to scare us. And xooel well separate the fact from the frivolous and find out if the government is helping the problems. We are not a version of the Freddie Kruger movie. But to help you understand the threats the country faces and what you should do to be ready. Call a friend and sit tight and stay tuned. After tonight, you will be far better informed and prepared than your neighbors are to face your fears. This is the atrocity. The Islamic State shoes the beheading of another american. Breaking tonight. A lone wolf terrorist attack in canada. A man suspect of terrorism here attacks a new york city police. And it is halting the march to Nuclear Weapon and nearing a critical juncture. North korea is continually developing longer range missile. And russian attackers are suspected of a breach of the White House Computers and emt could thrive on circuitry on electronics. That means no water or food. Or telecommunication. According to a september report for the Government Accountability institute. President obama rarely attends Intelligence Briefings and misses more than half of them. Those on the president s side claims he reads them even if he doesnt attend in person. Face time and advisors allow the commander in chief to it work through the information by the Intelligence Community on the hot spots around the globe and the critical threats, he will learn more if he is there regarding Americas National security. Throughout tonights special. Well be joined by a panel of real expert and they are called our cabinet. They are advisors we brought together and discuss the threats posed to the u. S. And how to draegsz them. It is retired general daniel bol jer who spent 35 years in the u. S. Army in iraq and afghanistan and been in strategy meetings with military officials and author of why we lost the generals inside account of iraq and afghanistan wars and. Ceo of concerned veterans of america. Pete hexic. He is a captain in the u. S. Army reserves and served in Guantanamo Bay and a veteran of iraq and afghanistan wars and kt Mcfarland Fox news analyst and host of the deaf comthree. She served in National Security posts in the nixon and ford and reagan administration. Glad you are here and welcome to the special edition of the threats we face. Well jump in to it. Kt, if you were to assess americas position in relation to National Security, give us a grade a to f. We could be a a but we are a c minus hovering to a d. What is the position. We are sucked in the last years in wars in wars and propping up dictators that dont matter and who dont like us. The better thing would be to restore americas vitality through energy and fraking and also froe focus on protecting the home land Missile Defense and home land with a better economy and building up americas defenses so that no one picks a fight with us and look at the threats. Pete i saw you and the general nodding your head. Are we better prepared than we were, lets just say six years ago when the Administration Took Office . I dont think we are. The plates have shifted over the last six years and in the meantime, you have a disinterested president and 50 time doesnt believe that American Power and american strength is good and incowses good out comes. Patty roosevelt said speak softly and carry a big speak. But the president speaks shoftly and has a little stick. You can so the dictators fill the process. And gentleman, you have seen a lot of president s come and go and administrations and policies come and go. If i were cornering you in a secret room. What is your biggest concern about the manner in which we are using and preparing the military . We have a tendency to misuse the military. The American Military is built for short, very decisive operations like desert storm. When you use it in vietnam or what we saw in iraq and currently see nothing afghanistan you are misusing a great instrument. Pete talked about speak softly and carry a big stick. The president has a big stick and best trained and equipped and you have to keep them strong andous them properly. And that is to say let the pit bull out and when it is over put it back. Outstanding. And one of the things you just mentioned was the difference between vietnam and desert storm. Everyone said we learned from vietnam. And did we learn from desert storm, and it looks like we didnt learn from either one of them, is that what you assess . The military of people and people are subject to a degree of arrogance. And people who fought in vietnam and men like colin powell and they had humility. But the guys my age didnt fight in vietnam and we took our country in the war, we thought we could pull it off and we department. Good point, we know that terrorist want to kill us and how will they try to launch the attack. A major strike or lone wolf or home grown attack increase in this country and are we prepared . Well ask the retired cian officer and our panel when we come back. Come back. So stay w [ female announcer ] if you dont think ive still got it when you think aarp, then you dont know aarp. Life reimagined gives you tools and support to get the career youll love. Find more real possibilities at aarp. Org possibilities. Weve always been] to at the forefrontumman,love. Of advanced electronics. Providing technology to get more detail. Detect hiddethreats. See the whole picture. Process critical information, and put it in the has of our defenders. 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Does breathing with copd. Weigh you down . Dont wait ask your doctor about spiriva handihaler. Radical islamic terrorist want to kill americans and what was the most likely way groups like isis plan on hurting us . Gary is an officer who led several cia deployments including the United States response to the east Africa Embassy bombing and the 9 11 attacks and the commander of all cia forces in eastern afghanistan and joins us now from tampa. Thank you for joining us here. Lets talk about. When we think of terrorist threats, we think of another 9 11 and catastrophic. But we have seen other terrorist activities. Boston marathon bombings and shootings in little rock and fort hood massacre. What should we worry about the most . The problem we have, governor, we face an array of threats from terrorist organizations in isis,inous ra. And alqaeda prime and all of these organizations together. We have an open society with 320 million people. And we issue millions of visas and people come in this country and we have an open border. We face small threats and individual and larger threats. This is it a very, very heavy list for the u. S. And this is the largest number of groups that we have faced at any time and they are more lethal. Our intelligence capabilities is shifted from human and now the whiz bang and electronic snooping and drone searching. Have we made a fundmental mistake. You of a cia guy and i expect a straight up answer not one that will get us killed, but are we missing the point on the value of human intelligence over the whiz bang stuff. Technology is safer to do when you do it remotely and human you are close. And putting people at risk, this administration is risk adverse. It wants to take minimal risk. You dont win the struggle with jihaddist without risk. We have to put people in theater and human penetration of isis. Andinous raand the other groups. It is the only way to protect the United States. We need a strong offense and defense. What do you think of the weak points in our approaches to fight terrorism. Where are we vulnerable the most . We are most vulnerable to the open border. Close that border applause you know, that seems so chlor i would think. I am going to bring the panel in. And this time, general, i will start with you. You heard gary, a long time cia guy and military intelligence has to Work Together or somebody do is. To be blunt. Have there been areas and lets go back further, 20 years in which there is a competition than a collaboration between the military forces and intelligence forces. I think gary knows it well. We have done better since 9 11 and gary helped to bring them together. My concern we might slip back to the old ways with the competing bureaucracy. Gary used the term called risk adverse. You dont want to go in fighting the terrorist with hands tied behind your back. The Intel Services have to Work Together. Do you think that the post 9 11 reforms have helped or hurt. I would like to say when we invaded afghanistan in 2001 and the invasion of iraq, cian officers and special operations teams worked together and you couldnt tell one from the other. We need that cooperation and sharing of intelligence. During that conflict we shared names of sources and we wanted them to understand the danger and the intel. And with that level of intensity are we going to prevail. We have to recognize. It is it a source fight and incumbent on the Intelligence Community to share. They have the information. Kt, you were in a number of president ial administrations in the defense side, when the president came out and essentially said the whole thing that went wrong with intelligence and it is james clappers fault. How demoralizing. When the president sells out people under him. It is a civilian control the military and intelligence communities and the president has to have their back and stand by them and protect them and thats where the break down is coming. Mistakes that are made in faulty judgment with the president and his administration and instead of manning up. He said not my fault and it is over and. And you cant run a country and expect the military to follow you. Gary, with your contacts in the cia, was that a demoralizing moment and what the officers said why would i stick my neck out and put my own life at risk if i would be solid down the river the at a moment of truth. There is a culture of risk aversion and that is inserting itself in the agency because it comes from the president. People dont trust the administration to stand behind them at crunch time. Pete, just to get your perspective of how it affects the people in the military . There is a disconnect between the mission. Destroying isis and the capabilities to bring it to bear. The dirty work of defeating the enemy requires the boots on the grouped and work alongside the forces and win the fight. It is going to take killing bad guys on the ground and not remotely and not air power to defeat isis and the military is frustrated. I got an email from somebody who said. Joe biden said we will follow them to gates of hell. How do i follow them if i cant leave my base . Wow. That said it all. Gary burns, thank you for joining us. China trying its darnedest to be a super power than the United States. Our panel stays and you will, Marie Callenders knows your favorite dutch apple pie starts with a golden flaky crust, wedges of fresh fuji apples, and a brown sugar streusel on top. So she made her dutch apple pie just like that. Marie callenders. Its time to savor. Fifteen percent or more fifon car insurance. D save you Everybody Knows that. Well, did you know certain cartoon characters should never have an energy drink . Action blahbechtblah blublublubblah geico®. Introducing the birds of america collection. Fifty stunning, handpainted plates, commemorating the state birds of our proud nation. Blahbechtblah blublublubblah geico®. Fifteen minutes could save you fifteen percent or more on car insurance. We are back. When we think of threats we think of terrorism, not enfour countries, but one country, china, has an impact on our way of life and your money. Joining us it gordon. Thank you for joining us. Thank you, so much, governor. How does china threaten the american way of life . Well, china, is stealing the jobs and predatory trade tractis and cyber threat and Ballistic Missiles to north korea and iowa ran and configuring the military to fight us. Last october state media threatening to incinerate tens of millions of americans and threatened to kill people in chicago with radioactivity. On our part, we say china is a friend and there iss a mispatch of perceptions here. You list all of the threats from china, and your point will be . It is obvious there is a number of ways china is a direct threat to the security of the United States. I have frankly never trusted them. And a lot of americans think they are our economic salvation and our new friend and partner and growing in capitolism. And they have to be just fine. What are we missing . We are missing and trying to integrate chinese in the International System every since nixon went to china 42 years ago. The chinese dont want to be integrated and they dont like the international rules. They want to change things for the worse with allies like the russians and north korea the and this is a mistake on our part. Ronald reagan knew the nature of regimes matters and the soviet union would not be i partner of the United States because of the nature of the political system. China has a political system that prevents it from being a partner from us. And we fail to understand that. Kt, gordon mentioned intellectual property is stolen and illegally traded products in the economy. China has had a major role in disrupting the american economy. Why are not we dealing with that . It is a notion that, this administration came in office not thinking that america should be the greatest power in the world. But if america gets taken back a peg or two it will make the world a better place. And they are comfortable with seeing the rising china and middle east and rising iran. They think if america steps back and a Global Community will be at peace. If it is not america, it is moscow or chinese rules or teheran or complete chaos. And thats where the American People and the American Leadership should americas economic weapon to regain our position in the world. Gordon, do you think that chinese has felt that america is a weaker nation and not afraid of us doing anything because they are pretty sure we wont . It is a global down turn. The chinese thought that the United States is in a terminal decline and acted that way. When Hillary Clinton was secretary of state she tried to signal cooperation with the chinese saying we were going to down grade human rights and the chinese heard that sign of weakness and went on a rampage and attacking our ships . International waters and that is a lesson for us that the chinese dont respect us and what we have seen in the the last several days, Chinese State media attacking president obama. And it is an indication that they are dising us and not only our president but the United States as well. General, china has built up the military in a time when we decimated ours and building 6 or 7 ships for every one that we are building. What is happening to the imbalance of military power and might and does it concern you . It concerns me greatly, the chinese are playing a long game. They see themselves taking over our role as the dominant pour in the world and it would be a horrible world if the chinese are in power. What they have done, they saw us get down in decade in two middle Eastern Countries and they built their nuclear forces. China is at a moment could detry our country with Nuclear Weapons and they have that capability and as gordon mentioned. Intelligence services and they serve their ends. When you deal with chinese businesses or anything. They are arms of the chinese government. Gordon, if you gave advice to the president today. 1, 2, 3. And what do you do in relation to china differently . One thing to do. Stop talking to china as a friend and impose costs for unacceptable behavior. When they attack apple or other american companies, what we need to do is impose a cost on china and we can do that. China is dependent on the export market. 2. 7 percent of the overall merchandise trade surplus related to sales to the United States. That gives us a very big hammer. Pete you have a question or comment for gordon. Gordon, is china really as strong as we persoef it or is there a paper tiger there, one child policy and command economy. And are there vulnerabilities that there could prevent. And that we could exploit. Oh, yeah, china is in trouble because the economy is growing in the low Single Digits and headed for a debt crisis and the political system is in distress and that means, if we had a president like reagan willing to use American Power which is what kt talked about. We could put the problem back in the box. But we unfortunately dont have that it president and until we do, we will have a china that threatens us across the board. Gored on, thank you and panel, stay with us. And it doesnt take a bomb to cripple a nation. It takes the click of a mouse. And my next guest said we are not prepared for a electronic jihad. And it is coming, well be right back. 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Ceo of concerned veterans of america and a Fox News Contributor and kt Mcfarland Fox news aanist and host of foxs deaf comthree. We learned that the white house Computer Network was targeted in a sustained cyber attack. Back in 2011. Hackers planted a trojan horse virus and it remains in those computers today. If the virus were to be activated, it would have a devastating impact on our gas pipeline and Water Supplies and nuclear plants. John henry is a former fbi director. And current president of the crowd Strike Services and joins us from washington and shaun, we are delighted to have you with us. The issue of Cyber Security. And americans dont fully understand it. What is the biggest threat to happen to america based on cyber crime and someone getting in the networks and wreaking havoc. I see cyber threat as no different than other threats we face. Prior guests are talking about Nuclear Threat and ieds. And this is another tool that our adversaris can use against us. Everything we do. Dna of our companies and manufactured and transmitted on line and vulnerable to our adversaris. Most of us know that the chinese and russians are focused on developing very, sophisticated ways of getting in our Computer Networks. Are they the only countries to be worried about. I am thinking other countries will never will have military, but they could do damage if they get the right hacker to work for them . You are right. Hundreds of years it is governments that had great capabilities. But someone today with a 500 lap top and Internet Connection can touch our u. S. Government and companies. And 1. 3 pillion people who have that type of capability. The barrier is low. And the impact is substantial. The amount of damage these people can do is tremendous in terms of attacks against our National Security and economic security. We hear hacking in the networks of home depo and target and getting information for identity theft. You think they are consumer things. We tend to think that Government Agencies and white house has so many fire walls and security it is impossible to breach it, should we be more worried. They are able to get beyond those defenses easily. You build a ten foot fire wall and they build a ladder and are in to your network. Governments can bypass those with ease. And the impact against the u. S. Companies that are losing intellectual property and research to the tunes of billions of dollars is happening every day. Well bring you on to the panel. Pete, i want to start with you. I think of Cyber Security and i think hire college nerds and kids who know how to play with a lap top and game boy. How many people do we do with this effort . The best and brightest. You have to attract those who understand the world we live in and how dangerous it is. And go to the top universities and rotc and back and push there. This is how our enemies level the playing field. And the military doesnt want to fight a single fair fight and our Technology Allows us. 11 physical attack on our network and systems level that playing fold and makes the job of a trigger puller much more level. And that is fair fighting and we dont want that. Shaun, people like Edward Snowden who hacked in a an enormous level and he is a low level contractor. I find it hard to believe that a person in low level contractor basis is able to get that information. Have we been told the full story . Is it that easy . Snowden is indicative of the problem of the trusted insider. Someone who hasability to touch information and down load it. And highlights the importance of constantly evaluating your networks and looking at those who pose a threat and having protocols in place to limit networks and they are able to reach out and touch data and that is a message that carries over not only from the private companies and sector that face the threat. Gordon talked about the threat from china chinese nationals are in u. S. Companies that have access and they are taking that data and bringing it back to china where it is used against us. We are giving them visas and inviting them in and looking the other way all the time it is gone. General, a question for you. We are talking about Cyber Security. And somebody able to hack in to the military hardware. They could potentially. I dont know you tell me. Potentially launch a missile remotely if they had the right codes. Is that possible. It would be difficult. We are careful about launch. But damaging our Communication Systems and making it difficult for us to launch, the enemy is capable of that and china and russia put a lot of emphasis on this capability. And the scary part they are helping the neighbors and north korea, iran to gain capabilities and i think it is a very role threat and we have to be deadly serious in protecting our stuff to prevent those intrusions. Absolute lie. And i want to say thank you very much for talking about the Cyber Security stuff. I think it is frightening and real and a lot of americans dont stop to think about it. And probably people dying to get in the computer and they care more than what they bought on amazon last month. We need to are worried. Shaun. Thank you very much. We are living in the 21st city. Emp. What does that stand for and i am talking devastation that it am talking devastation that it cau so i can reach ally bank 24 7, but there are no branches . 24 7 its just im a little reluctant to try new things. Whats wrong with trying new things . Feel that in your muscles . Yeah. I do. Try a new way to bank, where no branches equals great rates. All around the world the dedicated people of United Airlines are there to support you. Thats got your back friendly. Tionist Gunderman Group is growing. Getting in a groove. Growth is gratifying. Goal is to grow. Gotta get greater growth. I just talked to ups. 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Low level Nuclear Weapons could knock out power all over the country. And the second would be an attack on our system from an enemy and done by low grade targeted weapons and a process that is unsophisticated and even if we are successful in avoiding enemy attacks there is one more final factor, the sun. It can be produced by solar storms. The last one took place in 1859 and according to nasa there is a 12 percent chance of one occur nothing the next decade. The result would be catastrophicic. And joining me to break down the threat is frank ga ffney. I want to jump right in to the issue of emp. We dont hear about this. We are not talking about it. And why are we not talking about what could be the single biggest threat to the nation it is a good question. And i appreciate you talking about it. It is the single greatest threat we face. Your Previous Panel discussed the problem of computer attacks. They could be directed in our grid as well. But just to say with the elect row magnetic pulse family that you called attention to, where most of us are oblivious to how fragile our electric grid is. And when you introduce this idea that possibly a single Nuclear Weapon. Detonated as you have shown highway in space over this country could cra tor our electrical grid. That is true of the electrical utilities. Nfred, i participated in a conference and i was ridiculed for being there. And people say it is crazy people talking about. It i think it is real. Walk us through. I want americans to understand if there is an emp, Practical Impact on peoples daily lives, what happens where they live . Nwell, the grid is seriously disrupted, even for a relatively short period of time lets say months to say nothing of permanently destroyed, every aspect of our lives from getting water and food and medications and to transportation, telecommunications and to finance, everything is basically down because all of it. All of the infrastructures that sploi those things to us that our lives critically depend are devastatingly affected as well. And it may will be as dr. William graham on this phenom nan said if it is off for a year, we will find it impossible to sustain the size of the population we have today perhaps as many as different percent of us will be dead. And my friend pointed out to me. If you are in the ten percent that make it, you will not like the company that you are keeping either. This is the sort of thing we have to fix before it happens. We know how to do it, but we need to know it is it a problem widely understood and the will to fix it. I want to remind people, if it were to happen. You cant pump gas and no surgery. And you cant buy something. A tms and cash religionisters and everything we do in business. You say it can be prevented and it is simple. Give us the simple solution. We are all ready right now to hear what it is. Well, back when kt mcfarland and i worked in the pentagon we were exsed to the problem of elect row magnetic pulse first. It was a highly classified and went to Great Lengths to keep the soviet union from knowing what we knew about it and the steps to protect our single most important part of our military capapities and our Nuclear Deterrent forces and the good news for 50 years we have been working hard in the pentagon protecting those assets and we know how to do it and there are basically three technologies toous. Like a surge protector that i hope you have your computer plugged in to and a shunt or capacities that moves the surges of power around what you are trying to protect and they are the high voltage performers and thirdly. It is a cage that protect against emissions coming from other sources. We have a the lot of system with putting them in place, but we havent put them in place to protect the civilian power grid. The pentagon is 99 percent dependent in terms of domestic facilities on the civilian power grid and yet they dont think it is their job and most of the grid is in private hands and the people who control those assets in the private sector dont think that National Security is their problem. And everybody is pointing to somebody else to take responsibility for it. Frank is so right. Soiber or electromagnetic. Our civilian infrastructure is vulnerability. We have not protected the infrastructure and frank is writing, guess what, it if the electrical grid goes out. Guess where we have to get it repaired . China. We dont make that stuff anymore. And the only hope for us to join the military because they will be the only ones with electricity. And it is great to have you here. And i think it is a wake up call for america. Thank you for presenting it. You bet. When we come back, i want to talk to the general about his new book and his thoughts on the troops back in iraq. Troops back in iraq. All of that and more when we hey matt, whats up . Im just looking over the company bills. Is that what we pay for internet . Yup. Dsl is about 90 bucks a month. Thats funny, for that price with comcast business, i think you get like 50 megabits. Wow thats fast. Personally, i prefer a slow internet. There is something about the sweet meditative glow of a loading website. Dont listen to the naysayer. Switch to comcast Business Today and get 50 megabits per second for 89. 95. Comcast business. Built for business. Welcome back. We have covered a lot of National News over the last hour. If youre wondering if this administration is prepared for the current and future threat that is america faces, heres something that, well, maybe it will help you decide. We do not have any indications at the present of active concrete plotting by isil against the United States homeland. We didnt have eyes in there, thats exactly correct. We learned about them from the reports. Ly double check thats not the case. Let me just tick through these to go to your next question. Some of the successes we have seen on the ground by the Iraqi Security forces, one moment. Sorry. Well, i will find these the truth is, she never did find all the success stories. Its a little bit frightening. General, one of the things you do in your book is to talk about how we lost iraq and afghanistan. Thats that just cant be easy for a 35year military person retiring as a threestar general to be able to acknowledge that we didnt do the job we went out there to do. And you see the administration, they cant find any successes. What did we do wrong . Well, youre exactly right, governor. Its particularly brutal when you think about the bravery and the sacrifice of our servicemen and women and their families. Just everything that was done right. But unfortunately we didnt take advantage of that. And what we did wrong, we misunderstood our enemy, we underestimated them. They were very crafty. They blended into the civilian population and drew us into a long indecisive Counter Insurgency and our military is not built for that. We misused this great military thats excellent at a quick Decisive Campaign like we saw in kosovo in 99 or desert storm in 91. And we got embroiled in going through villages to try to figure out which guy is the enemy and which guys the friend. That is a tremendously difficult thing. You can have the best troops in the world that we do, but we put them in a position where they cant win. We cant do that to our people. Pete, when you think about the threats to the American People, is there one that stands out to you that just keeps you up at night and you think maybe america aught to be more aware of it and a little bit more worried about . Thank you, i appreciate you asking that question. There is. As we focus on isis right now iran benefits greatly from that. And their pursuit of a Nuclear Weapon and what they would yield in the influence that they have and the geopolitical situation would completely shift with a Nuclear Armed tehran. And this administration is in negotiations likely to give away the farm in order to get a deal. Do you know that there are more centrifuges in iran than that are starbucks in america. Repeat that. There are more centrifuges in iran than there are starbucks in america. And we are not forcing them to dismantle any of those. They are going to pull the plug on some of them, but they can always pull the plug right back in. When i look at the conversations weve had identifying the threats, whats the answer . The answer is the United States for the first time in decades, we have the ability to be a selfsufficient country in energy. We have the ability to crush the countries and adversaries by taking the price of oil and putting it down to where they are oil bankrupt, but the one thing the president wont do is take advantage of our resources. That would change the situation with russia, iran, with the saudis and the chinese. Everybody. With everybody. And it would put americans to work. What is wrong with that . Within months it would change it. Stay with us, guys. Up next, i asked our facebook followers what worries you the most and those results are going to be coming up. And if you would like to get in on some polls, go to facebook and like the huckabee page. And like the huckabee page. Well be back in just a moment. Virtually all your important legal matters in just minutes. Now its quicker and easier for you to start your business, protect your family, and launch your dreams. At legalzoom. Com we put the law on your side. We asked you to go back to facebook and tell us what threat about america concerns you the most. And here are the results. You can see them right there. By the way, everyone in our audience tonight is going to get a copy of lieutenant daniel bulgers book why we lost. A special thanks to our advisers. General bolger, katie mcfarland, what a delight to have you here. Its been a pleasure. Rget to set your dvrhis again. Every saturday night at 8 00 p. M. Eastern so you dont miss a minute of the show. Because we know where you are, we know where you live and we will come get you if you miss a minute. Thats it for now. This is Mike Huckabee from new york. Good night and god bless. Good morning to you. It is november 16, 2014. Im andrea aerhardt. Murdered by a madmen. Well have the latest straight ahead. And are americans stupid . We asked president obama about that. I just heard about that. The fact that some adviser who never worked on our staff expressed his opinion. We have done a Little Research and it turns out the president s own

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