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When it was removed. This is we have contained this question thats provided data thats necessary for the department of justice to protect voters. And specifically, to help us better comply. Julie White House Correspondent kevin corke is live with the story. Kevin, with a dozen states so far now suing over the Citizenship Question, is there any reason to believe the white house will reconsider having that question in the 2020 census . Its a pretty good question actually, julie. Let me put it to you this way. Without saying its out of their hands the white house is saying look, this is out of their hands. Something decided at the department level. Specifically the commerce department. I think its fair to point this out as well. White house officials have said as much both on the record and offtherecord. This is about more than just counting people. The census is about counting citizens. Which in term determines Political Representation and federal funding levels, among other things. However, californias attorney general says this is about the Trump Administration trying to punish Illegal Immigrants. Given the way that this administration had attacked immigrants. You can understand why immigrant families would be afraid to fill out the census questionnaire. Adding a question on citizenship threatens to derail the integrity of the entire process. This latest move by the Trump Administration to threaten california is not just a bad idea. Its against the law. Okay. Thats a novel take on that. White house officials meantime insist this is not novel. In fact, they noted that its been done for years. For that matter, its the right thing to do. I would argue that this has been practiced of the United States government. The purpose is to determine individuals that are here. It also helps comply with the Voting Rights act. Without that information, its hard to make those determinations and that information needs to be gathered and it has been part of the United States census every time we have had a census sips 1965 with the one exception of the 2010 census. Over 50 years. One exception when president obama was in office. Julie . Julie so, kevin, switching topics now to the white house interpretation of kim jong uns visit to beijing. This is the first time we have actually heard on behalf of kim jong un china saying not only the meeting went well but that the consideration is there that kim jong un might actually meet with President Trump. Yeah, very interesting indeed. Keep in mind this whole meeting was sort of cloaked in secrecy. I think the white house is looking at this a couple of ways. On the otheon the one hand ther. Kim jong un is noted for the bait and switch. Saying one thing and doing Something Else behind the back. This is still extraordinary nonels. I think on the other hand, julie the white house is hopeful, expressing optimism this will create an environment where we might see historic break through. Let me take to you twitter. The president talking about this today. No real surprise, he has been commenting about this idea that maybe sooner than later he would have an opportunity to meet with kim jong un. In fact, the white house would love to get that all wrapped up sometime by may. This is further indication that the president s maximum Pressure Campaign is working. Through a lot of countries around the world coming together and recognizing the destabilizing threat that north korea poses not just on the region but around the entire world. We think without this maximum Pressure Campaign this kind of thing wouldnt be happening. There was Heather Nauert there from the state department. The president mentioned on twitter said this. He received the message from xi jinping last night. I want to share the one nugget from his tweet about this which i thought was interesting. Maximum pressure and sanctions must be maintained at all cost. Meaning, despite this idea, julie, that there appears to be some progress, you have to stay the course to see if it all pans out in the long run. Of course, we will keep you posted. The briefing coming up about 1 30 give or take. I promise to be there for you. For now back to you. Julie we trust you will. Kevin corke at the white house. You bet. Jon to marches across the country to calls for a constitutional change. The gun control debate is taking on new life. President trump though is saying no way to retired Supreme Court Justice John Paul stephens. He called for the repeal of the Second Amendment. President trump tweeting this. The Second Amendment will never be repealed. As much as democrats would like to see this happen and despite the words yesterday of former Supreme Court Justice Stevens, no way. We need more republicans in 2018 and must always hold the Supreme Court. Justice stevens is making his case in the New York Times writing, quote overturning that decision via constitutional amendment to get rid of the Second Amendment would be simple and would do more to weaken the nras ability to stymie legislative debate and block constructive gun control legislation than any other available option. Joining us now gabby moro more. This hit out of the blue. A Supreme Court justice saying lets get rid of the Second Amendment, gabby. The president was obviously a fierce defender of the Second Amendment and rival during the 2016 president ial election. This tweet responding to that oped this morning was really no surprise. Nor was it a surprise to see this oped written by former Justice Stevens who was the primary descenter in d. C. Vs. Heller that landmark case on gun control back in 2013. So, you know, looking at this, i actually spoke to a republican who is close to the white house yesterday. I asked this person what is the likelihood now that Congress Actually acts on gun control . This person said that the stevens oped and a lot of what you heard from the march for our lives activists over the weekend has actually hurt their cause because this is a former Supreme Court justice, fervently arguing for a repeal of the Second Amendment, which is something that has obviously been talked about by gun control opponents, used to instill fear in people who are gun owners who dont want their weapons confiscated who dont want to see the regulation of certain firearms. Now that they can point to this and say look, proponents of gun control want to repeal the Second Amendment it gives the white house leverage. Jon this energizes the nra and those who favor gun ownership rights, youre saying . Absolutely. Jon thats how its perceived at the white house, at least. Thats how its being perceived here, if you talk to gun control proponents, they really have tried to argue previouslily, these people pushing for expanded background checks, pushing to regulate certain firearms to get rid of certain firearms like the ar15 what they really want is to confiscate weapons. Thats not a message that goes over well particularly in conservative leaning states. Red states like texas, states like west virginia. So for gun control proponents, including this president , to actually now have a prominent figure a prominent proponent of gun control arguing for a full repeal of the Second Amendment by ratifying the constitution as i said it gives them leverage. It gives them a concrete oped to point to and say this is what they want. We are not lying when we say that. Jon i was a little surprised to see Justice Stevens saying abolishing the Second Amendment would be simple. Tinkering with the constitution is never simple and there is obviously going to be a huge upswell of opinion, you know, from states where gun rights are very much supported. Yes. Its no easy task and its something that hasnt been done in decades. And i think its really unlikely right now given that we have a republican majority in both houses both chambers of congress. Excuse me. I dont think thats a simple thing to do and i was surprised to do to acto see that in the oped. Jon you also have a president who says its not going to happen . Right. They have no intention of pursuing Something Like that. Looking at more reasonable options right now. You know the president has he has already mentioned has looked at getting rid of bump stocks or regulating nem them in some fashion. Expanding background checks. Working with senators on the state fix nics acts. There are things they are trying to put through congress but ratifying the constitution is not something that is going to happen. Jon gabby from the washington examiner. Thanks for coming on today. Thanks for having me. Julie federal immigration officers are looking for a man described as violent deportee, after officials took off his handcuffs at new yorks jfk airport while he was being escorted to his plane. Apparently the man dodged authorities at the gate and reportedly got away in a taxicab. Jon thats not good. A fox news alert. Investors hoping for a rebound and theyre getting a little bit of one. The dow up about 63 points right now. After it dropped 345 yesterday. And this is a short trading week on wall street. Markets will be closed on friday in observance of good friday. Julie there is a new twist in the russia investigation. What some Senate Democrats want the Justice Department to do when it comes to special counsel Robert Mueller. You got to hear this one. Plus, california, the first in what could be quite a few states going after a proposed Citizenship Question in the next census. The fierce push back and politics behind it. Only in america does a country get sued for asking whos in it. It is complete insanity. Excuse me, are you aware of whats happening right now . Were facing 20 billion security events every day. Ddos campaigns, ransomware, malware attacks. Actually, we just handled all the priority threats. You did that . We did that. Really. We analyzed millions of articles and reports. We can identify threats 50 faster. You can do that . We can do that. Then do that. Can we do that . We can do that. Jon all right, now, we are awaiting a key decision in the penn state pledge death case. The judge who threw out the most serious charges against former members of the beta theta phi if a fraternity considering whether there is enough testimony to reinstate some of them after 19yearold tim piazza who died after accepting bid ceremony last year where video shows himming you being put through gauntlet of drinking game stages. He fell and suffered head and internal injuries. He later died at the hospital. Administration has had an antiimmigrant agenda. I think they truly want to know who the citizenships are and who are the noncitizens are. The problem with that is that the census is not the vehicle for doing that. The constitution makes clear that the sole purpose of the census is to count everyone in this country trip for the status for apportionment. That is what the constitution requires. Julie fierce push back about adding the question about citizenship to the 2020 census. Launching a legal and political battle pitting the Trump Administration against many blue states including california which was the very first to file a lawsuit. Joining us now congressman darrell issa, republican from california who sits on the house judiciary oversight and Foreign Affairs committees. Thank you very much, congressman, for talking to us. So, democratic lawmakers stand to lose political power if undocumented immigrants decline to take part in the survey. So then with that said, how much of this is politically motivated . Well, it appears as though its all politically motivated. In 2010, when this basic question disappeared, you didnt see lawsuits. And, yet, bringing back a question, which was asked during the entire Franklin Delano roosevelt new deal democratic high period seems to be controversial. It isnt. The census is not just a line in the constitution it has become and for decades has been about providing vast amounts of statistics and information to help businesses and others to make decisions and this is a very legitimate question. You know, as an arab american grandson of lebanese immigrants, there is even a question about various ethnic background and so on. Are they each questions we would sometimes prefer not to answer . Maybe. But the reality is the census does us all good and this is not a new question. Julie okay. It is not a new question but in this day and age, it is obviously something thats become politically incorrect for those who are arguing against it. So well, no its become politically advantageous for democrats to say. Julie politically motivated but with the same sentiment of being politically correct because people do not want to feel as though people are being picked upon based upon their legal status. However, they are in this country and they need to be accounted for . Well, we need to know a lot of things. One of them obviously is we keep records of how many people are naturalized. We keep all kinds of other records. Were not asking people who are not citizens, who are legally here. Were not asking them unfair question. If you are an ambassador stationed in washington, and you receive this, your embassy is going to say you live in the residence and you are not a citizenship. Julie right. Remember, there are more noncitizens that are going to answer this, who are perfectly legal than there are undocumented. Julie right. So this isnt just about documented and undocumented. Its about status that will be used for valid statistics that quite frankly democrats are going to want to have after they have it. Julie lets talk about the enormous legal battle ensued here. Legally speaking, nothing can really actually happen any time soon. Nothing is going to change in fact until september at the very soonest. Nonetheless, legal challenges have been activated by a dozen states which began with california and then new york is actually promising multistate lawsuit challenging the administration. Now, there are critics, as you know, that question whether this status, you know, the census is going to deter illegals from participating for fear of being deported. How halls the Census Bureau prepared for that possibility . Well, the one thing about the Census Bureau that has been true for generations is that this information is not presented for any followup legal action at all. The privacy of the census is absolutely and, of course, they aggregate, but this its been established for decades that its not usable by the fbi or by any group in order to further an investigation. Thats been true under republicans and democrats. I oversaw the last census as the head of the well, as subcommittee chairman then head of the oversight committee. I watched president obama try to politicize it by coming up with the idea that they would estimate the undercount. One thing under President Trump is the destructions at census have been very clear. We are going to count everyone the way the constitution said so and thats what the secretary ross is doing. Thats the president s wish. And getting accurate and full information is exactly what were returning to, not what its nothing new. Julie okay. I have got to go. I want to make clear. Do you believe it is a scare tactic by democrats to say this is unfair because, if you are an illegal immigrant, you are in fear of being deported therefore you are not going to answer this question. You are saying there is no concern whatsoever that this is not going to be exposed to the fbi or ice officials and do you not subject yourself to possible deportation if you answer this if you are an illegal . You are exactly right. Julie okay. And historically thats been the case and i think people can rely on decades of when this question was asked. Julie glad to set that straight. Congressman issa, always good to see you. Thank you very much. Jon top secret meeting revealed between chinas president and the enemien leader. What does it mean for kim jong uns possible summit with President Trump . Our next guest on why north korea made this move. Plus, protesters shutting down a City Council Meeting and delaying an nba game. What led to this angry outburst next. 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Still yes xfinity delivers gig speed to more homes than anyone. Now you can get it, too. Welcome to the party. Jon a fox news alert. We now know the name of that escaped detainee that we told you about earlier. He is mohammeduembaque. 31 years old originally from senegal. Julie told you earlier the ice agents had taken him to jfk airport last night to put him on a plane back to his native country. He was being deported. They took the cuffs off him and he bolted. It all sounds a little comical and in some ways it is. This is a guy wanted for multiple weapons offenses. Also immigration and firearms offenses. So, people are being told not to try to apprehend him. Call ice or your local Police Agents if you see this guy. He is 31 years old. 63 an and 63 and 190 pounds. Julie . Julie sacramento residents outraged at the deaths of unarmed man at the hands of police disrupting a City Council Meeting. The outburst forcing lawmakers to take a recess and even blocked the entrance to the nba arena delaying a Sacramento Kings game. Steven Stephon Clark was shot and killed in his grandmothers backyard as police initially thought he was carrying a gun. That gun, it turns out, turned out to be his cell phone. Now this fox news alert, kim jong un makes a surprise visit to china. Days of speculation finally put to rest after a secret meeting between chinas president xi jinping and kim jong un was confirmed. This high level facetoface is the first known foreign trip for the north korean dictator since he took power in 2011. China says it will uphold friendship with neighbor while confirming pyongyangs commitment to denuclearization. President trump reacting on twitter earlier for years and through many administrations everyone said the piece and denuclearization of the Korean Peninsula was not even a possibility. Now there is a good chance that kim jong un will do what is right for his people and for humanity. Look forward to our meeting. Joining us now retired u. S. Air force general don alston, former commander of the Intercontinental Ballistic Missile force. He knows an awful lot about the dangers of nuclear confrontation. General alston, did kim jong un blink . Good morning, jon. I think that kim gets three things out of this visit. I think that it reflects his understanding of the urgency and the stakes that are involved in the process. He needs china to succeed china can enhance stability as the process moves forward. He needs china if this process doesnt work well for him to try to reclaim some stability as necessary unless china refuses to allow kim get some sustenance that right now is being denied to him by all the players who are in working with the United States to provide maximum pressure. I think in addition to that, he gets to raise his profile as a statesman, gets to burnish this image that he is going to meet with two heads of state prior to prior to him having the most important meeting of his life with President Trump. He will meet with the president of south korea and, of course, this past weekend visit with xi. I think that the third thing is, finally, he has gotten external legitimacy for his regime. So, by meeting with xi jinping. Thats been withheld up until this point. I think this reflects that he is doing his Due Diligence in order to prepare for this most important meeting. Jon but the chinese have said denuclearization is the commitment here. Thats something that i mean thats huge if the north koreans uphold their end of the bargai bar. Thats the end game and thats where we need to get to. Thats the only way that he gets to try to walk this tight rope with the pressure thats being kept on him right now. So, its not a surprise to me that he continues to prepare for this the beginning of this process. But i think that the process is going to have to start with things that are in the art of the doable and that we establish wait points and timing and that he is going to be bargaining in good faith. I think that President Trump sees the initiative when he agreed so soon to meet him. I think he put his foot on the accelerator. And i think thats creating these conditions that youre seeing kim react to right now. Jon the state Department Spokesman Heather Nauert was on fox friends earlier this morning and commented on some of whats at stake here. Listen to this. China holds an incredible amount of china over north korea as its Central Trading partner. So getting on that train and going over there is certainly a step in the right direction. Schin Strategic Partner for the United States. We have done a lot of work and getting more full some readout of what happened in that meeting yesterday. Jon obviously the president feels holding chinas feet to the fire and north koreas as well has paid off here. There is no doubt that thats true. And we need to look at chinas selfinterest here with kims Nuclear Program, kim has forced the United States and allies to bring pressure and presence in the region. This is not what china wants. China does not want a long standing increased u. S. Presence and increased pressure from its competitors in the region. When you just reflect on chinas selfinterest in this proprocess. Its understandable they want to play an active role and get to end state that serves their needs. One of the pedestrianments is the Nuclear Program that north korea has. Jon certainly some promising outlook there. Lets hope it all comes to fruition. Retired air force general don alston, thank you very much, sir. Thank you, jon. Julie republicans weighing new strategies to hold on to their congressional majorities in the november mid terms. 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So call today and start with a Free Health Assessment to understand your best plan of action. So why didnt we do this earlier . Life line screening. The power of preventvention. Call now to learn more. Jon the Supreme Court expected to hear arguments today in a case about partisan jerry man derg. This time they are trying to determine the way maryland redrew a Congressional District to swing from republican to democratic seat. Doug mckelway with more on that. Hi, jon. In some ways this is a cut and dry case of gerrymandering. In fact, in his deposition in a lawsuit challenging marylands newly redrawn sixth Congressional District former governor Martin Omalley admitted it he said it was my hope to create a district where the people would be more likely to elect a democrat than a republican. Well, he succeeded. The sixth district and far western rural maryland had been held by republican Roscoe Bartlett for 2 o0 years. After the 2010 census omalley and democrats who dominated the maryland General Assembly said about redrawing the district eliminating Carroll County and Frederick County and including a heavily democratic part of Montgomery County outside of d. C. That contained nearly three times the population as the rest of the district. The Democrat John delaney won the seat in 2012 and has held it ever since. Today the Supreme Court is deciding what to do about this admittedly blatant manipulation of the district. And how far a court should go in intervening in redistricting. The justices have been concerned about finding a way to administer any sort of rule that says that an overly manipulated district is unconstitutional. The courts ultimately get to decide number one is this an issue that we as a court can decide and resolve or is it something best left to the political branches. And, number two, if it is something that we can decide what the heck do we do . The court is hesitant to intervene too strongly. They are duly elected bodies. In this case focuses on the democratic gerrymandering, 32 state legislators are controlled by republicans and they have been especially adept at redrawing districts in their favor. Jon . Jon Doug Mckelway in washington. Doug, thank you. My pleasure. Julie Senate Democrats responding to recent criticism of Robert Mueller by the white house in letters just released dated march 7th to senior Justice Department officials. Lawmakers urged them to publicly promise not to interfere in the special council russias investigation. Writing in part quote we have concerns that the president or his white house could order individuals at the justice or the department of justice with the authority to oversee special counsel muellers probe to interfere with the probe or shut it down. Our panel now Leslie Marshall is a Fox News Contributor and syndicated radio talk show host. Matt schlapp is the chairman of the american conservative union. Thank you both for talking to us and this just gets thicker and thicker by the day. So now there is a concerted effort to protect mueller. Senator Richard Blumenthal has cowritten a piece in slate. Com with an american historian. And in it he compares President Trump to nixon when in 1973 watergate investigation was heating up. President Richard Nixon announced the resignation of several administration officials. Including the attorney general. So unsatisfied, the senators from both parties wanted reassurance that a, quote, special prosecutor would be truly independent. They wrote a letter promising the special prosecutor and this is why this is relevant here will, quote be subject to removal only by reason of extraordinary improprieties on his part. Now last fast forward to 2018. I had to give a little History Lesson in order to prop up this letter. Final senators, all democrats, including senator blumenthal who have written a letter to five doj officials. They fall in line of succession at the department of justice. If Deputy Attorney general rosenstein were either to be resigned or removed. So here is what it reads in part. In light of news reports that White House Council ordered don mcgahn special counsel inquiry proceed without interference. We write to request that he provide a written and public commitment that you will not interfere in the special counsels investigation into the russian melingsdzing in the 2016 elections, possible collusion with such meddling by the trump campaign. Efforts to obstruct justice and any related inquiry. Matt, do you believe there is still a chance President Trump would consider firing mullen anmueller and does this r change anything. Absolutely. Actually its the president s obligation to fire any employee at the department of justice if there is any reason to do. So fringes, if bob mueller fr instance, if bob mueller were to do things in these investigations where he would be going on a fishing expedition for the whole 70 years of Donald Trumps life, that would be clearly outside the scope of his investigation and they should take immediate steps. Lets remember, we have separation of powers which was what our whole constitution framework was built on. Everyone in the executive branch in the end works for the president , just like the president cant fire senator Richard Blumenthals chief of staff, senator Richard Blumenthal cant tell the president who he can hire and who he is fire. Bob mueller, although i have respect for him, he is not above and beyond the law either. If he does things that are inappropriate in this investigation, i would hope the president would fire him. Julie leslie, what do you make of the letter. First of all, there is nothing or no indication by anyone left or right, matt, as you know that mueller has done anything inappropriate. So the rumblings that we hear here on the left outside of the white house and all of this disarray and attorneys who dont want to work for him or that of being fired is this could be problematic. What is further problematic with regard to this letter, julie, the difference between now and back in 73, there were two main differences. One you had bipartisan support. You dont have that. As you stated correctly. Julie all democratic senators, correct. Yes. They are all democrats. And the president is not going to fire him. And secondly, i have to say and i think its sad but i really think that both democrat and republican care more about their parties in 2018 than the people. And i think its proper that the Democrats Ask for this loyalty just to be sure that the doj and all of those people within it that they sent this letter to, the inspector general, et cetera, are fully pledging their loyalty to the u. S. Constitution which is their job and not this is really important. The constitution gives the president the right to hire and fire in the executive branch. Thats correct. If the president wants to fire Rod Rosenstein for any reason under the sun he can fire him for any reason under the sun. That is what the constitution provides. That is the constitutional option. Julie doesnt seem that the president is headed toward firing mueller. He wants to sit down with mueller. Obviously if he wants to sit down and be interviewed by the special counsel that doesnt seem like an indication that he plans on firing him before doing so matt and less is i thank you very much thank you. Jon dramatic developments underway in the trial of the pulse nightclub widow. Why defense counsel says he never helped her plan this massacre. This trial has been so personal and putting things out there that you and i would never want the world to know. Many sleepaids have Pain Medicine but zzzquil is different because why would you take a Pain Medicine when all you want is good sleep . Zzzquil a nonhabit forming sleepaid thats not for pain, just for sleep. Jon now this fox news alert. Closing arguments underway in the trial of noor salman, the widow of the pulse nightclub shooter. She is accused of helping her husband plan the attack which killed 95 people. She could face life in prison in convicted. Defense attorneys say she was in the dark about the terror plot and was coerced into making a false confession. Noor did not know what her husband was doing to do. She didnt participate in the purchasing of the gun. She didnt participate in the purchasing of the ammunition for the ar 15. She did not participate in the scouting of any location. And she didnt know he was going that night. She did not make up a story. Jon lets turn to our legal panel jonah spilbore former prosecutor and defense attorney mercedes fox news legal analyst. Jonah, to you first, the prosecution has taken some hits in this trial because some of the things that they portrayed as being, you know, her active participation in the planning of this didnt exactly pan out. But you seem to think the prosecution still has a pretty strong case. Yeah. I think they did their job. First of all, its very unusual to bring an action against the wife of a terrorist in this situation. It rarely i dont know if its ever happened. But, i like the message that it sends because if she really were complicit, it has to be more than simply knowing. She had to assist in the making of it appeared the planning of it in order to be found guilty of substantially helping a terrorist, which is going to get her the life sentence. And i think the fact that she texted when he was at the scene of the crime, trying to help him cover up, shows that she knew all along what was happening here. Jon but her Defense Attorneys say, look, this is a woman with an 84 iq. Well below average. Somebody who is sort of under the thumb of her husband and she couldnt possibly have had the wherewithal to help him plan this. I think the defense attorney did her absolute best in this case. She tried to put out all those things, she is an abused wife. She has a low iq. She is a simpleston. She didnt know what she was saying or doing. She was coerced by the fbi. She threw it all against the wall and hoping against hope that something will stick. But, at the end of the day, you have these jurors saying 4 people were killed. Were not giving you a pass. And what was it that you said to the fbi investigators when they were asking you questions . You were like oh, i wish i should have done something. Maybe i could have stopped him. These are things that are going to fall weigh very heavily on those jurors minds. They probably wont give her a pass. Jon folks from florida hearing that case and that massacre at the time which was the worst in American History is still going to be very fresh in their minds. Absolutely. They want somebody to pay the price. The actual shooter cannot pay the price because he is dead. Now they have the wife of the shooter in front of them and the jurors are going to want her or somebody to be accountable and, look, you can be dumb and guilty. The fact that she has a low iq doesnt get her off the hook in this case. Jon will her own words spoken to investigators come back to haunt her as this case proceeds . Prosecutors read something in court. We are going to read that for you. Her own statement that seems to implicate her in this case. Thats coming up after the break. Harris upping the ante in the california. Not ruling out arresting a sheriff if refuses to uphold state laws protecting Illegal Immigrants from the feds. How will it play out and effect the Midterm Election . Katie President Trump firing back after former Supreme Court justice says the Second Amendment is obsolete and should be repealed. The president says never but could it happen . And what if it did . Harris all that plus in the center seat outnumbered at the top of the hour. Happy wednesday. Katie see you soon. Jon a fox news alert. And continuing our legal discussion on the case against noor salman which is wrapping up this week. She is the widow of the pulse nightclub shooter. Can a statement she gave to the fbi be her undoing. In it she admitted that she knew ahead of time that her husband was going to be doing something bad and she wrote i wish i had done the right thing but my fear held me back. I wish i had been more truthful if im on that jury, mercedes, that statement alone convicts me. Isnt that it . Isnt that exactly what the jurors need to say . Of course you knew. You wrote this voluntarily. You knew your husband was doing something wrong. You were with him when he purchased ammunition and with him where he staked out certain places to do this massacre. You knew. Its in her own words. Jon jonna. I have to agree with that i dont think her low iq or the fact that she was under his thumb is going to relieve her in the eyes of the jury because she did so much. She made so many trips with him. I cant get over the fact that she texted him while he was basically at the venue where he was about to off 49 people and she tried to help him cover his tracks. Thats it for me. And i think thats going to be it for her, too. Jon the spokeswoman for her family denies all of this. Heres what she had to say. She did not have a job. She did not work outside the home. When his friends came over, she never officially met them. She never went out with him and his friends. Never went to the gym. She was basically a mother who stayed home and cared for her son. She babysat her, you know, her husbands nephews. And she was never really she wasnt an equal partner. Jon thats susan clery. What does that have anything to do with anything in the fact that she worked she stayed at home and took care of the kids . Babysat children . What does that have. She wants to be a stay at stayathome mom and not hang out with her husband. Jon implication she had no idea what her husband was up to because he kept her off in her own little world. Goes back to what jonna said she actually gave him an alibi. Say i wasnt feeling well. Say whatever you want. Say you are with your friends. All these things when you add them all up and this is what is great about all these jurors they will sit and put all these pieces of the puzzle together. No doubt she goes down under the obstruction. She basically admits lying to the feds hard parted is whether she provided Material Support top charge. She is going to find it. Jon she has a young child at home. Obviously the father is dead. Are jurors going to have trouble sending away a mother for a long time knowing jurors have done that time and time again. I dont think thats going to be in their minds so much. 49 people dead . No. They are not going they probably had children too. Jon the case as i said should wrap up this week. We dont know when the verdict is coming but we will certainly stay on top of it and let our viewers know. Mercedes colwin and jonna spilbore, thank you. Thank you. Jon julie. Julie a fox news alert. Penn state hazing is issuing a press release essentially saying that all Involuntary Manslaughter charges have been dismissed against the 11 former beta feta Phi Fraternity members. They faced charges with the 2017 death of Timothy Piazza following an alcoholfueled hazing which led to him becoming so intoxicated he fell down a flight of stairs and was left there he died the next day. 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Lets do it tomorrow. Outnumbered starts now. The battling is intensifying over california sanctuary law. Citizens have taken action against the measure that shield Illegal Immigrants from federal Law Enforcement officers. Now the state attorney general not ruling out arresting those in Law Enforcement who dont comply with sanctuary law. This is outnumbered im harris faulkner. Former director of Strategic Communications for Hillary Clinton Adrienne Elrod and Katie Pavlich and in the center seat, fox news senior judicial analyst judge