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Democrats are definitely not on board. The Senate Majority leader says this has to get done. Ultimately, we want to get legislation to finally end of the failed care status quo through congress and to the president s desk for his signature. Democrats will be here fighting for as long as it takes to beat back these shameful health care bills. We hear the american people, we hear you, we are on your side, and we will never give up. Melissa peter doocy is live on capitol hill with more on this showdown. Peter, what can you tell us at this hour . Melissa, senator Lisa Murkowski, one of the hardest votes to get, one of the two republicans who voted no on the motion to proceed is standing right here and she just confirmed to this group of reporters, as were walking with her in the hallway, that she got a call from ryan zinke expressing his displeasure about her position on health care so far. That confirms reports that shes been feeling a lot of heat from the white house to come around and she changed her mind and the other republican no vote, senator Susan Collins told us a little bit about that just a few minutes ago on her way into this hearing. If the reports are true, Lisa Murkowski is doing her best for her constituents. Reporter we were there is a lot of talk now about this skinny repeal that would restrict the mandates and medical device task, but leave the rest of obamacare in place. It may be seen as the only way to get moderates and conservatives on board with something i could pass, but the problem is, nobody knows whats in it. I dont know what skinny repeal is. There is no indication of what would be in that bill. Im for repeal and replace and we are continuing to work on replacement because we need it badly, we need a rescue plan for people of ohio who are and counties where there is not a single insurer. There is a cbo score released by Senate Democrats last night that show a skinny repeal could increase premiums by 20 , but its not clear how amendments would make that number go up or down, so again, we still dont know what the impact would be, but there are republican senators were very excited to vote on an obamacare placement. Senator john kenney, he said he will be on it like a hobo on a ham sandwich. Melissa what an interesting image. Its going to be a long and exciting day for us and all of them. Hope everybody will stay tuned, thank you so much, peter. Jon democrats pass to the obamacare process into law without any republic in support, now they are enjoying watching republicans trying to undo their work. This is the Senate Minority leader Chuck Schumer speaking now about obamacare. Lets listen. How many more months will this go on . How many more months, when we could be sitting down and a bipartisan way with my good friend from arizona has recommended, and Work Together in the Committee Process . This morning i saw lamar alexander, the head of the Health Committee in the gym, we see each other just about every morning in the gym. I was wearing my syracuse tshirt and he was wearing his Tennessee Volunteers tshirt. I said to lamar, if this skinny bill goes down, as it should, we will, and i spoke to patty murray, we will sit down and work in a bipartisan way to improve obamacare. We know obamacare needs some work, we dont deny that. Lets do it in a bipartisan way. Instead of passing this hot potato back and forth and not getting anything done. Jon thats Chuck Schumer live on the floor of the senate expressing some of the democrats view on the republican efforts to repeal and replace obamacare. Lets talk about whats going on with a. B. Stoddard and vince colones a. B. , it appears theyre heading toward a vote for this socalled skinny repeal, but nobody seems to know a lot about whats in it, can you enlighten us . Its what peter told us is basically a repeal of the individual mandates. It would have certainly been one of the first things they attempted, democrats, to join with republicans on if Hillary Clinton had won, but this is not a repeal and it keeps the medicaid expansion, those taxes, so what happened between last night and this morning was that there was some enthusiasm for this idea just being a process, lets hurtle it back over to the house and this could begin the housesenate conference process. I way to keep the conversation going and keep it alive, but now the new anxiety is at the house will take it rate up and this would indeed become the final thing that passes and there wouldnt be a conference or a consensus draft that would be a start all over again draft, so thats a worry that i think people like senator collins who say i dont know whats in it and they wont end up with the numbers they were hoping to from this sort of no big deal. They dont wanted to be the final product. I think that has a chance of imperiling the numbers before they get to the vote. Jon if you drop the individual mandate, vents, dont millions of people just drop from the roles of obamacare of their own volition . This is the challenge republicans are facing. If theyre going to drop the penalties of the individual mandate, theyll also have to see if they can find some cost savings for one because if they get it through the reconciliation progress procesh drop from obamacare because theres no inducement for them to join it. Only the people who have to stay on obamacare, highrisk patients, will see a rise dramatically potentially a people decide is not worth it, there is no individual mandate anymore, im out. This is a half measure, this is not a real attempt at fixing it. If youre going after that mandate, youll also have to go after the out of control costs and health care. Jon vince, if we get a cbo score and there is no indicatio indication if we saw a cbo score that says 12, 15, 30 Million People, whatever, would be lost from the Health Insurance roles, primarily that would be because they dont want to pay the penalty, right . Right. The cbo in general has a difficult time predicting when Human Behavior will be. Thats the belief. You have people who decide i dont need this, ill be fine, im healthy. Young people especially. These are people that the Obama Administration went after. They wanted people in their 20s to be forced to join health plans because by and large, many are saying no need, ill be fine. Jon my senior producer is telling me the cbo did score the bill, ab, and 16 Million People would be uninsured if it were to pass this skinny repeal. That doesnt seem to sit well. When senators read these headlines that say x number millions of people would no longer be insured, they seem to run a little scared. The cbo scores always scare a few extra votes when they come out. They also said premiums would rise by 20 . As of last night, they were ignoring with the cbo assessment was because they thought this was just going to be a shallow bill that will send over. Now the concern is, what if the house just passes it and it was the final product and they voted for it . If its not just a vehicle to go to a conference, they could end up supporting this bill. Thats why the numbers are going to drop, unless theres a real agreement that it will not be the final product. A few months ago, house members when this was failing kept saying to me, the only bill that can make it to trumps desk to be signed is something crafted by the senate. We have to stop being forced to take a tough vote, we should send a bill over there and then they can write this bill. The endgame is always going to happen in the senate. The idea that the senate is trying to punch this back, it doesnt bode well. Jon right, because when the house bill passed and there was that big celebration in the rose garden, everybody was saying, we wont even pick up the house legislation, we are doing our own thing. Jon dominic whether or not they can use the processes of the senate to get something meaningful out, i think both republicans and democrats have a lot to answer here. Democrats are acting and obstructive way. There no way interest in helpi. Chuck schumer is trying to walk that line, meanwhile, republicans are not delivering to their base. Their base asked for a lot more than this and if theyre only giving them half of it which will result in higher premiums and fewer people having health care, that will annoy a lot of the people who put these guys in office. Jon lets put into mind that one should not observe how laws or sausages are made. Its getting pretty ugly there in washington, d. C. , well see what happens in the next 24hour period vince and ab, think of both. Melissa a key witness in the Russian Investigation shedding new light and how the put in operation. Bill browder testifying before the Senate Judiciary committee this morning, rather spearheaded the magnitsky act imposing sanctions on russians involved in the death of his former accounting. Serge give sworn testimony to the Russian Committee which is their version of the fbi and we waited for the good guys to get the bad guys. It turned out that in putins russia, there are no good guys. On november 24th, 2008, about 4 weeks after sergey testified before a bunch of corrupt officials, some of the same officials he testified against came to his home at 8 00 in the morning in front of his wife and two children, arrested him, they put him in pretrial detention, where they then tortured to withdraw his testimony. Melissa Catherine Herridge is live on capitol hill. This is a big story. Thanks, melissa. Bill browder testified that the russian lawyer natalia veselnitskaya, the one who is at the 2016 trump tower meeting was part of this broad effort to get the magnitsky act repealed and these are sanctions that were leveled after this russian whistleblower was murdered because he had exposed the corruption of Vladimir Putins government. Twoway russian agent or official, a conversation about adoptions is a conversation about what . Nobody was hung by adoption, they were talking about the repeal of sanctions so russian tortures and murders could continue. And his testimony, bill browder also made the point that a key player who is part of a broad effort to repeal the sanctions was also a key player in the commissioning of the unverified antitrump dossier and in this exchange with republican senator Lindsey Graham, browder explains how the russians operate. Is it common for russia to play both sides against the middle . Yes. But a report and is in the business of trying to create chaos everywhere. For this dump any fusion gps, this is run by this former journalist with the wall street journal, glenn simpson, or contacts focused on discussions with the Committee Say the subpoena was withdrawn, simpson did not have to appear today and he is now cooperating with them in an effort to provide a transcribed interview, some testimony in the future about this unverified dossier. Melissa lots of information they are, Catherine Herridge, thank you for that report. Jon the staff shakeup by the white house might be the beginning as a new Communications Director Anthony Scaramucci suggests it might be time to clean house. The white house. What i have to focus on is the 40 or so people in my staff. We are going to let people go if we have to. So you miss the big city . I dont miss much. Definitely not the traffic. Excuse me, doctor. The genomic data came in. Thank you. You can do that kind of analysis . Yeah, watson. 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Since 1985, selectquote has saved over a million families millions of dollars on Life Insurance. One of the big problem is that im discovering is that senior people are the guys doing the leaking when they ask junior people to leak for them. Melissa new signs of a growing risk in the white house west wing is new Communications Director Anthony Scaramucci suggests more people may have to go to stop all the leaks. As you know from the italian expression, the fish stinks from the head down. I can tell you to fish that dont stink and thats me on the president. I dont like the activity thats going on in the white house, i dont like what theyre doing to my friend, i dont like what theyre doing to the president of the united states. If you want to talk about the staff, we have had differences. When i said we were brothers from the podium, its because were rough. Some brothers are like cain and abel, other brothers can fight with each other and get along. I dont know if this is repairable or not, that will be up to the president. Melissa that interview after the scare in which he released this tweet which has since been deleted. In light of the leak, i will be contacting fbi and the justice department. All this marking more speculation that scaramucci is gunning for Reince Priebus job as white house chief of staff. A. J. Elrod is a former press secretary for the Democratic National campaign committee. Roy mathesons former chief of staff. You guys have both but in these positions. Age again, let start with you. What do you thinks going on . This is crazy. First of all, scaramucci probably should have realized that Financial Disclosure forms are Public Information before he went out there and tweeted at the fbi and blamed the white house chief of staff. At the end of the day, we are dealing with another example of somebody who is working in this white house who is in it for himself and not the actual Public Service aspect. Melissa let me stop you right there. How do you get that hes in it for himself based on that . My point is, its fairly obvious that he is gunning for Reince Priebus is chief of staff position. Hes throwing him under the bus, hes tweeting that hes leaking this information, if scaramucci wants to be an effective munications director, this is not the right way to get up to the right start. Is an interesting indication of whats going on within the white house and i think the reason you have so many leaks is because you have a very transactional situation going on. You dont have a lot of relationship building. Thats when leaks happen. Whether you like president obama or president george w. Bush, they had fiercely loyal inner circles because they had relationships. I think what youre going to see between now and the end of august is youll see that shift within the white house staff. If the white house was really smart, theyd bring in someone like dave bossi who understands inside and outside, but can build relationships and focus for the white house. Right now, you have too many things going on. Melissa i need you guys to stand by, were going to squeeze in a quick break. Dont move. Jon a tragic accident on the ohio state fair. Throwing people to the ground in front of dozens horrified witnesses. Everything started normally and then it started shaking and stuff, it was shaking real bad. Listen up, Heart Disease. you too, unnecessary er visits. And hey, unmanaged depression, dont get too comfortable. Were talking to you, cost inefficiencies and data without insights. And fragmented care stop getting in the way of patient recovery and pay attention. Every single one of you is on our list. For those who wont rest until the world is healthier, neither will we. Optum. How well gets done. For years, centurylink has been promising fast internet to small businesses. 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The point that we made earlier about you have to form respectful relationship, when he can do is come in their and do what he can to stop the leaks, but whatever hes doing right now is not working and there seems to be a low level of respect thus far. Melissa i dont know about that. He does have a history with cnn, when they put out that big news story about him, he demanded a retraction. And they apologized, he respected accepted it. Listen to what he said on cnn. Reince priebus name is connected to this every time it comes out in the last 24 hours. I dont want to speak to about that. He can address that himself. People know my history with him, but i can speak for my own actions, hell have to speak for his own actions. At the relationship between scaramucci and previous went from 0devcon status in a nanosecond. Its a problem for the president. One of the challenges, if you have everyone reporting to the president , so if everyone special, nobody special. Adrian understands this as a former chief of staff. If you dont have some structure and strategy and you build a relationship in terms of the culture, all youre doing is our ruins chasing their own agenda. If the administration really wants to make that leap, if you want to end the leaks, they have got the right person in there is chief of staff. The right person has to have the right authority to create a culture based on a relationship that can move the president s agenda forward. Everyone has to remember, theres only one name on the door and its not theirs. Melissa they have that and Reince Priebus was in charge when the leaks are going on and then anthony was brought in, so maybe there is a structure and its just that priebus is on his way out. Who knows, well see what happens in the future. This is third grade playground tactics. You have this person whos been in the job for eight weeks going on television and criticizing the white house chief of staff. This is not why people voted for President Trump. You see a lot of support in Middle America where people are struggling and some of these economically distressed estates. People do not want to have this infighting. Melissa boyd, it didnt start like this when anthony came on the job. I was on the air live when he came out and do that first press conference. They said they were all friends and it was all fine. They did try to get along at first and they tried to portray it like they were one Big Happy Family and it fell apart. Unfortunately, when you have failed threats and laughter followed by real threats and laughter, that may be a family dinner, but is not the kind of family you want in the west wing of the white house. Again, you have to have somebody in there who understands inside outside games, who understands the president and has the toughness. Thats why dave bossi is such a Central Point to the administration, getting on track because its both the conservative movements. Im going to come full circle, its the relationships. As long as theyre based on transaction, leaks will continue, fumbles will happen. Unforced errors, and again, thats not good for the american people, especially the forgotten men and women who elected President Trump and put him in the white house. Melissa scaramucci said im a front stepper kind of person, im getting that printer on the back of a tshirt. Thanks. Jon new information about the deadly accident at the ohio state fair. Police just releasing the name of victims. After one of the attractions malfunctioned killing 18yearold tyler gerald and injuring seven others. The fireball was at its highest point when it broke apart, throwing the eight victims some 30 feet into the air. It was too much. Its not safe. Jon mike tobin joins us live with more. The phrase we keep hearing from witnesses is worst nightmare. This video is hard to watch, so be warned. Its opening day of the state fair. Its categorized as an aggressive thrill ride, its called the fireball. Some witnesses say they heard the sound of metal cracking before tragedy struck. It started normally administered shaking real bad. This girl kept saying my seat keeps shaking. And then and just flew off, the whole thing flew off. Her legs hit, her leg flew her whole leg. And then she went to the ground and she wasnt breathing. 18yearold tyler gerald was killed on impact from ohio. Seven more hospitalized, to discharged and three cling to life in critical condition. The ride was inspected. All of the rides are shut down pending a review of the inspection process. Jon awful story. Mike tobin, thank you. Melissa we are alive and capitol hill were momentum is growing for the skinny repeal of obamacare, what would that mean for americans insured under the law . We are going to break it down. Im only in my 60s. Ive got a nice long life ahead. Big plans. 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Jon fox news alert coming in on have been rumblings in washington that the president would like to fire Robert Mueller, the former head of the fbi who is now the special counsel investigating any russian interference in our election process. Perhaps any relationship to russians and the Trump Campaign as well. Now there is an effort in the senate to insulate the special counsel from any firing by the president. One republican and two Democratic Senators as saying they are among Committee Members working on legislation that would prevent such a firing without judicial review. Senator Lindsey Graham of south carolina, Sheldon Whitehouse of rhode island and Richard Blumenthal of connecticut on board with that potential legislation. Well keep an eye on it and let you know how it goes in the u. S. Senate. Melissa we want to take you right now to House Speaker paul ryan. He is holding a his weekly press briefing. He said that he thinks Reince Priebus is doing a fantastic job, lets listen in. Ill reserve judgment until i see what they release. Reporter of the senate does pass something, whats the chance extending our session is obviously an option that we are considering. The majority leader will make some sense of that later on. What does the senate do . We dont know what the senate is going to do, so therefore we will reserve judgment as to what our responses until we find out with the senate actually does. Youve got a scar if, i cant see. There it is, just making sure. I dont read that stuff. [indistinct question] i think what you saw, it was 193. You had all but three republicans voted for tough sanctions on these three regimes, north korea, iran, and russia. The message coming from congress on a bipartisan basis are these are hostile regimes and sanctions are warranted, saints are called for. We want to make sure they are tough sanctions and thats why we wanted to figure this out and get the policy right. There were some constitutional issues with the senate, we got through those and we all agree, we believe these tough hostile regimes deserve sanctions and this is the bipartisan compromise that produces that and thats why you have this big vote count. We need to sanction his resumes because of what theyve done. [indistinct question] the last thing im going to do is negotiate tax reform in public. You know me all too well. Our tax writers will be the one writing this bill. Were going to work to get consensus so they can go right this legislation. We are not interested in negotiating in public what those committees will be doing. [indistinct question] the problem here, the concern in the house was whether or not the military would be forced to pay for these procedures. I share those concerns. The question on the broader issue, that is being reviewed by the dod and the white house and i look forward to seeing what they produce. Reporter senator graham earlier today raised some roadblocks to firing i think its in the president s interest that he stays where he is and he continues with his job. Jon a vote of confidence there for Robert Mueller and also for Reince Priebus, a man with whom the speaker is personally close, both being Republican Leaders from wisconsin. Reince priebus has been under some fire at the white house. More on that. Melissa more on the senate senates plan to repeal obamacare. Some in the g. O. P. View as a last resort, the skinny repeal. My guess is well figure out some kind of skinny down version. Its disappointing to me, but well have to keep this process moving. Otherwise, were stuck with the mess of obamacare. Melissa Chuck Schumer is concerned about the impact of the skinny repeal and what effect that can have on the american public. If the reports are true, the republicans will offer a skinny repeal plan. We just heard from the Nonpartisan Congressional Budget Office that under such a plan, as reported in the press, 16 million americans would lose their Health Insurance and millions more would pay a 20 increase in their premiums. At least 20 . Melissa joining us now is john goodman. Thank you for joining us. Do you think its a little disingenuous of Chuck Schumer to get upset about the skinny repeal . Isnt it about the vehicle for continuing negotiations . You are right, but we still to look at it. No one likes a mandate, so if there is an employer mandate that will be gone, the individual mandate that will be gone. If thats all you do, then that gives people incentive to remain uninsured until they get sick. What schumer missed the boat on is whether people will lose their insurance. They will choose not to ensure until they get sick, but thats not a good result for the syste system. Melissa if you can stick with us on the other side of the break, well talk about the changes that will be made. Stick with us, thank you. Jon theres also a bombshell new report linking a russian mobster to form a Trump Campaign manager Paul Manafort. How deep to those ties go and did anyone break the law . Lets take a look at some numbers 4 out of 5 people who have a stroke, their first symptom. Is a stroke. 80 percent of all strokes and Heart Disease . Preventable. And 149 dollars is all it takes to get screened and help take control of your health. Were life line screening. And if youre over 50. Call this number, to schedule an appointment. For five painless screenings that go beyond regular checkups. We use Ultrasound Technology to literally look inside your arteries. For plaque which builds up as you age and increases your risk for stroke and cardiovascular disease. And by getting them through this package, youre saving over 50 . 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Melissa what about the idea of grouping people together in an association . Understand what youre saying. One of the other ways rather than through the workplace, why dont you have work and they can get together across state lines . People are already grouped through their jobs, so i say lets start with the associations we have. If you want to form new ones, thats good. The insurance that work are better than the individual market, else lets start where we are. Melissa we are still talking about the price of Health Care Policies and that doesnt say anything about the cost of actually repeating the care. I dont know that that solves the problem. How do you do with the affordability problem when it comes to Actual Services . We have to quit insisting that people buy these policies from all these bells and whistles and have deductibles that are 6,000 for an individual and 12,000 for a couple. Ed said, we need to buy insurance which is suitable for their own needs and their own financial situation. That means fairly low deductibles and Health Savings accounts and then we have to keep these plans where they are trying to have Cancer Patients or Heart Patients or diabetics. The market needs to work like a real market and we need to empower and liberate individual individuals. Melissa easier said than done. Weve got a lot of work to do, thanks for joining us. Jon nbc news is out with a report tying Paul Manafort to a wealthy ukrainian businessman described as an Upper Echelon associate of russian mobsters. Well get into it with our legal panel up ahead. Awesome notebook check. But who takes care of them . Office depot office max. This week, these composition books are just 25 cents each. Taking care of business jon core documents appear to tie former Trump Campaign manager Paul Manafort to russian mobsters. The headline from nbc news reads doj x manafort associates. The article goes on to say the department of justice has identified a former business associate of Paul Manafort as an Upper Echelon associate a russian organized crime. Lets get into it with our legal panel. Wendy patrick is a former prosecutor. John, is Paul Manafort in legal trouble here . This is where a witch hunt can become a witch trial. The reality is if this guy has discussions with manafort many years ago about refurbishing an iconic hotel in new york. They never did business together, they Never Exchange any money. Its a big zero, and now prosecutors of chicago are saying maybe he had contact with organized crime. He is not charged with that, its never been proven. Right now, its nothing. A lot of fluff. Theres nothing here. Jon the drake hotel was torn down in 2011. These guys were talking about buying it, but those discussions never went anywhere, does that mean that Paul Manafort is an associate of the sky . What youre asking them where a question. Is he an associate or accomplic accomplice . Was this a conspiracy or where theyre going to collaborate question at the headline you read earlier, they sounded very anonymous manafort has been pummeled in the news media because remember, we are looking at all of us in the throes of a russian collusion investigation by special counsel mueller. Everything report takes on this ominous tone which would not be there otherwise. Is this just a Business Partnership and ever was or is it actually reflective of something much deeper . Jon hes ukrainian, not russian. The organized crime that he is alleged to be involved in, let me ask you, nor the lawyer. Is it organized crime . No, hes being charged with bribing Public Officials and the country of india. He is not being charged with anything relating to organized crime. His defense lawyers have said hes a member of the russian organized crime crew, but there is no proof and it has nothing to do with manna manafort. Its incredibly unfair for him to be pretrade in the media is having some connections to organized crime and theres nothing there and when its never been alleged. Jon this is guilt by association, if you will . Hes not guilty by association because many of us know people, you never thought you were in involved. That does not equate to the level of knowledge that would be required to proceed criminally. Thats what prosecutors will look at, not that its somebody has these ties that are shady or this case, and looks a lot worse than that. What do manafort no . What is it have to do with him . We are at such a preliminary stages that hes guilty by association. Jon knowing what you know, does this case go forward . Against manafort . Theres nothing there. Theyre going to try their best to prosecute that guy for unrelated charges, but it has no connection to Paul Manafort. Jon something to keep in mind when you read the headline headlines. Thank you both. We are back in a moment. 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Then ill come back and do another hour here with you as well. Jon to get a nap . Melissa yes, on my desk. Dont tell anyone. Outnumbered starts right now. Harris fox news alert, as we are seeing the press forward on Health Care Reform on the hill, Senate Republicans are expected to stick a vote on proposal that would get rid of some of the most unpopular pros visions of obamacare. This has the president is offering encouragement telling his fellow republicans that this is your chance to shine and this is outnumbered. Im harris faulkner. Here today, dagen mcdowell, the anchor of the intelligence report, trish ragan, cohost of fox and friends weekend, abby huntsman, and todays oneluckyguy, Fox News Contributor and former coming occasions director for the d c, mo elleithee is here. Hes also the founding executive of georgetowns institute of politics and service and right now, he has are numbered good to see seo