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Carter. With a record of service that has spanned more than 30 years as a public servant, as an adviser, as a scholar, ash is rightly regarded as one of our nations foremost National Security leaders. Heather well, and then ash carter spoke himself, and he promised the president , quote, candid advice. Molly henneberg is live at the white house. Hi there, molly. Reporter hi, heather. President obama says the u. S. And Ashton Carter, if hes confirmed as defense secretary, would face no shortage of challenges, from how to contain or fight the Islamic State or isis to ebola in west africa to budget constraints. Carter accepted the president s offer in part because he respects and his high regard for the president s leadership, and he spoke today of what he believes his role would be as defense secretary and as an adviser to the president. If confirmed in this job, i pledge to you my most candid strategic advice. And i pledge also that you will receive equally candid military advice. And finally, to the greatest fighting force the world has ever known, to you i pledge to keep faith with you. Reporter for his fourth secretary of defense, president obama has selected someone whos an academic. Carter has never served in the military, nor has he been elected to congress as his predecessor, chuck hagel, had. But carter has forged his reputation as a defense strategist and a nuclear expert. Hagel, who did not attend the event today, is leaving after less than two years at the job but will stay on until a new secretary is confirmed. Thats when lawmakers likely will ask Ashton Carter very pointed questions about just what kind of advice he would offer the president on issues like isis, afghanistan and gitmo. Heather . Heather Molly Henneberg at the white house. Molly, thank you. Jon well, people who count on obamacare could see their premiums go up next year, but the white house says the market is more competitive and stable and consumers could find better deals by shopping around. In fact, the growth rate of Health Care Spending now at the lowest rate on record, but that hasnt kept fellow democrats from questioning the wisdom of the administrations focus op obamacare during the on obamacare during the depths of the financial crisis. Ed okeefe with the Washington Post, what about these numbers, first of all, ed. Roughly a 5 increase on average for most peoples premiums next year under obamacare. Is the white house proud about that or concerned . Well, they say theyre, they dont really say because they say essentially, look, if your premiums are going up, you could always shop around, and you very well may find a lower price. Of course, there are going to be people who see big percentage increases, but there will be people who have their price go down a little bit. 5 is the average, and just like anything else theyre encouraging people to shop around. I think more than anything people at the white house, across the administration, Congressional Democrats breathing a sigh of relief that at least so far the healthcare. Gov web site is working much better than it did last year, and people are able to more seamlessly shop around, sign up and move on. Obviously, price increases happen. I think the fact youre seeing the market stabilize, that was one of the goals of the law, and so far at least that appears to be holding steady. Jon republicans seem to have moved on from their efforts to try to repeal this thing. Well, they have at least for this calendar year. It was pointed out to the speaker yesterday, john boehner, that you go to capitol hill right now, you talk to republicans, all theyre really upset about and focused on is doing something regarding what the president did about immigration. They said hold on a second, arent these the republicans who were running against obamacare and vowing to repeal it . The speaker didnt rule that out. Next year we will work on some ideas to do that. And certainly, weve been told to expect attempts to repeal the final law which ultimately would probably fail, and the president would veto that. But then youll probably see them work on chipping away at specific parts of the law or at least fix parts of it. I think the big one well see a lot of support on is doing something about that tax on medical devices. Ive talked to democrats who say its something that really infuriates them either from a business perspective or a patient perspective. Why should you be taxing oxygen tanks, people need to breathe, why should there be a tax on that . I think you will see attempts to work on that. It would be a sign potentially of some bipartisan agreement, but certainly not yet, and that is notable given that youve got this big spending bill coming up, really the first one republicans will put their fingerprints on. Jon and its not just republicans who have been squawking about obamacare and its cost. You had Chuck Schumer on the democratic side, you have now tom harkin, the longtime democratic senator from iowa criticizing the focus they put on obamacare. Yeah. A longtime champion of health care reform. Schumers argument, i think, is a little more strategic politically. When we were doing this as a democraticcontrolled congress, the economy still wasnt in great shape, perhaps we should have focused on that, and i think, look, most democrats would say looking at the results of the 2010 elections and the recent elections when the Health Care Law was a big concern, yeah, from a crass political perspective, we should have been focused on other issues. But i think once you talk to, you know, the grand majority of democrats, they would say, look, it was still a good thing to do this. Weve tried to address it. Sure there have been problems, but over the long term we expect it will work out. I think schumers point is we probably would have done better in the polls in november if we had focused on broader Economic Issues and not just this law. Jon all right. Its going to be a fascinating couple of months sure will be. Jon especially as the new Congress Comes in and they try to decide what to do about the president s executive action on immigration as well. Ed okeefe from the Washington Post, have a good weekend. You too, jon. Take care. Heather new information coming in on a second night of nationwide protests closing down streets and tying up a whole lot of traffic. This following that new york grand jurys decision not to charge a white Police Officer in the death of eric garner. Rick leventhal is covering this story for us. He is live in new york city with the latest where new york looked quite a bit, well, quite different from ferguson. Hi there. Reporter certainly calmer today, heather, but dramatically larger crowds last night on the streets of new york and several other major cities with protesters trying to disrupt the lives of others in order to draw more attention to their cause, the outrage over the lack of an indictment in the garner case on the heels of another grand jury clearing the officer in the death of Michael Brown in ferguson, missouri. A could estimated of more than 7 a crowd estimated of more than 7,000 clogged the brooklyn bridge, the holland tunnel and the west side highway. There were more than 200 arrests by the nypd, most for disorderly conduct, some after skirmishes with police. And there were other large demonstrations in washington, boston, chicago and San Francisco all with a common theme, protesters chanting no justice, no peace, no racist police. The nypd has launched a retraining program and has begun an internal investigation into the actions of Police Officer who was the subject of the grand jury case after his apparent chokehold of eric garner. There are many who say race had nothing to do with garners case, that he had 31 prior arrests and was clearly resisting, and the Police Union President says the mayor has thrown cops under the bus. If youre speaking, you can breathe. Unfortunately, he died for a number of reasons, and as the grand jury saw and the medical examiner said, it was not a chokehold that killed that person. So we feel badly that there was a loss of life. But unfortunately, mr. Garner made a choice that day to resist arrest. Reporter and the officers Attorney Says he doesnt believe the federal civil investigation will lead to charges against his client calling it a, quote, regular street encounter that doesnt fit the parameters. Heather. Heather Rick Leventhal in new york city, thanks. Jon new details about the woman accused of butchering an American Teacher in abu dhabi. Her dramatic arrest and what police there are now saying about her alleged plans to target more americans. Leland vittert live from washington with details on that. Leland . Reporter well, jon, police in abu dhabi have wasted no time on this investigation that was made all the more difficult because the killer covered herself or in a burka. Police say the suspect has confessed and targeted the victim simply because she was an american. In an overnight raid, they stormed a house and captured what they describe as a 38yearold United Arab Emirates citizen of yemeni origin. Police in abu dhabi believe she had help but believe the house that they raided was the base of operations. Police believe the suspect also planted a relatively crude bomb outside the home of an american doctor that was defused before it could hurt anyone. This woman theyve arrested is allegedly the woman seen in the mall surveillance tape in the killing of an american schoolteacher who was 47 years old, originally from hungary, an american citizen. She was a Kindergarten Teacher and mother of twin 11yearold boys. Their father has flown to abu dhabi to pick up his sons. The u. S. Embassy had noted calls on social media for attacks against teachers in the region, and the leader of isis has made continued calls for lone wolf attacks. They are inherently uncoordinated. Obviously, the emirates makes a ripe target as there are a lot of americans, it is a relatively open society with shopping malls, beaches, glitzy hotels, and the uae is also part of the bombing coalition against isis. The embassy there has advised americans to now keep a low profile in public. Jon . Jon lets hope they have the right woman. Leland vittert, thank you. Heather back here at home jobs are up and the economy seems to be growing, but a lot of us want to know when the paycheck will finally catch up with our bills. Plus theres this, a teenager is dead after a horrible hit and run crash, and now police are wondering if he was targeted because of his faith. You get sick, you cant breathe through your nose suddenly, youre a mouth breather. A mouth breather well, put on a breathe right strip and shut your mouth. Cold medicines open your nose over time, but add a breathe right strip and pow, it opens your nose up to 38 more. 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The search is on in houston for 25yearold doctor. The pediatric intern. Her dark gray toyota camry is also missing. And closing arguments set for tuesday in the murderforhire trial in detroit. Hes accused of hiring someone to kill his wife. Testimony wrapped up yesterday after eight weeks. Heather a fox buzz alert to bring you this morning with some great news on the job front. The labor market says the u. S. Added 321,000 jobs in the month of november, the most in nearly three years, and that is a sign of a growing economy. But the question a lot of folks are asking, when will paychecks catch up . Joining us from the fox business network, fox Business Correspondent peter barnes. Thats a good question, when are Companies Going to feel comfortable in paying people more . Reporter well, wages did start to catch up last month, average hourly wages rose to 46. 66 24. 66, the increase was double what analysts were expecting, and they welcome the news as a sign worker incomes might finally start to pick up. President obama also welcomed the report which showed broadbased job gains across most sectors of the economy and the biggest monthly increase in payrolls in nearly three years. Overall wages are rising, a very welcome sign for millions of americans. So weve got an opportunity to keep up this progress if congress is willing to keep our government open, avoid selfinflicted wounds and Work Together to invest in the things that support faster job growth in high paying jobs. Reporter but yearoveryear wages are still stuck in low gear, up just about 2 which is slightly ahead of inflation. House Speaker John Boehner said, quote middle class families across the country are struggling to get by on wages that havent kept pace with rising costs. The president s response has been more of the same. The same massive regulations, the same rising premiums and the same uncertainty for manufacturers and small business. And the Unemployment Rate remained unchanged last month at 5. 8 with nine Million People still looking for work and seven million more working parttime but wanting fulltime jobs. Heather . Heather peter barnes in washington for us. Peter, thank you. Dont miss peter on our sister network. If youre not sure where to find fox business, log on to foxbusiness. Com channelfinder. Jon in yemen terrorists are threatening american hostage luke summer. His family pleading for his release. Ahead, how the pentagon tried to rescue luke summers and what could have gone wrong. Then, our legal panel weighs in on the dramatic trial of Tiffany Stephens, the 39yearold accused of trying to hire a handyman to kill her exhusband. Just look at those two. Happy. In love. And saving so much money on their Car Insurance by switching to geico. 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And Yemeni Forces rescued a few hostages, but summers wasnt there. Some are now saying that the pentagon and the white house simply took too long to make the decision. Lets bring in mike baker, a former cia covert Operations Officer and president of diligence llc, a Global Intelligence security firm. Hi, mike, lots of complaints about this between the time it was believed that the intelligence came out that it was believed he was at this location in yemen and the time this was officially signed off on took about a week or so. Can you explain sort of the chain of command and how long Something Like that should take to act upon . Sure. Well, first of all, its not like the movies, so you dont suddenly get action able intelligence, boom, up go the choppers on Something Like a hostage rescue. Each case is different, presents unique problems based on the ground truth in that particular location and Resources Available and how good the intel is. And if we look at this timeline that were dealing with and its interesting that the pentagon and the white house have put out this information about this unsuccessful mission from last month, in part because some of the information was leaking out but its interesting because the credible, potentially credible information about where luke summers was located in yemen, where he was being held by alqaeda, aqap, surfaced about the 17th. And then if you look at the timeline, it took the pentagon about four days or so to look at that intelligence, determine whether its credible, look for any other potential corroborating source, develop an operational game plan, how would we carry out this rescue attempt based on the intel that we have, and the intel is never going to be as good as you want it. If you wait for the intel to be good and absolute, something bads going to happen. Heather i guess youre never going to have it at 100 , but according to the wall street journal and some of the things im reading, the pentagon signed off on this quickly and chuck hagel did, and then it went to the white house. And it seems as though thats where things slow down. Explain how that works once it gets to the white house. Youre absolutely right. It took about six hours. Once jsoc submitted their game plan to the pentagon, the brass at the pentagon took about, by all reckoning, about six hours to say, good. Heather thats fast, right . Thats fast. Get it over to the white house. Thats where i think theres a combination of things. Right now youve got a very political white house, it looks at everything through a political lens. Youve got a collaborative, deliberative process in the white house, they want everybodys opinion. So i think it took about 48 hours or so based on the timelines that were seeing from the pentagon and National Security Team Information thats released about this. Now, you could argue that after all these years of dealing with the Terror Threat once a plan is reviewed, approved by the pentagon and handed over to the white house and it involves the lives of u. S. Citizens, that it shouldnt take that long. And its very interesting because the National Security spokesperson said, well, look, the president approved it as soon as he had unanimous approval or recommendation from the National Security team. Heather so it becomes a decision by committee. It becomes a decision by committee, i would argue, but this should take singledigit hours. This should not take a couple of days to get out of the white house. Now, having said that, its no guarantee because, again, youre dealing with imperfect intelligence. Its no guarantee that if you had shortened that time frame up that we would have gotten ahold of luke summers. Heather boy, i hate to talk about a failed attempt on the part because our men and women do so much to successfully try to get these americans. The case of Jessica Lynch who was held hostage 2003, 2004 in iraq, the case of some of those americans in somalia, they were rescued. I wonder if things are changing because we did have that case just about six months ago of james foley who was killed in syria after a failed rescue attempt. What do you think is going on here . Are things just simply slowing down . Well, were living in a world where we want zero risk to begin with, so that does create this more of a deliberative, contemplative process rather than saying, okay, our risk averse calculation, lets speed that up. We now want to say, okay, can we guarantee were not going to have casualties . Look at benghazi, an attack underway. I would argue there was a tremendous amount of political pressure on the brass to say, well, yeah, we can guarantee no casualty, so now we can send in the cavalry. But with the hostage rescue attempts including foley and now luke summers where theyre not successful, theres nothing like an unsuccessful mission to breed political recriminations, to breed people saying, well, you know, the military didnt act quick enough or the white house heather and maybe thats why were seeing the leaks now. Usually these things are kept under wraps, but were starting to hear about it. Mike, i want to ask you about one more thing, and you and i have talked a lot about the lack of human intelligence and how that hurts us. How could that potentially have come into play in this situation . Well, you, once you spend any time in operations or whether its intel or military, you learn to make decisions to get off the x with imperfect intelligence. In other words, youre never going to get what you want. So thats why i say that you look at a situation like this, and if you come from that world, you understand. Sometimes these things work, sometimes they dont. And you, you do the best you can in terms of evaluating risk versus gain and then what you want, as weve been talking about, you want the process to move quickly. You want once youve developed your game plan based on the truths youve got, the information youve got and what you know about that environment and what youve got in terms of resources, you want that process to move as quickly as possible because if it is actionable intelligence that you feel is credible enough to plot and plan and carry out this operation, you dont want to waste time. So often times the problem is, as youve noted here, you vetch out that you stretch out that period of time for improving an operation, and thats where things can go wrong. Heather by the way, just want to mention that we asked the pentagon about this, colonel Stephen Warren said this went from theory to execution at a fast clip, so the pentagon at least standing by its position on this officially. Mike baker, thank you so much. Have a terrific weekend. Always appreciate your expertise on this. Thank you. Jon that bombshell expose about sexual assaults at the university of virginia facing some criticism after the journalist behind a Rolling Stone argue is accused of questionable reporting. Our media panel weighs in. Plus, this, take a look. That is the orion spacecraft coming down into the pacific just a few hundred feet off the ground now. These pictures are coming from a nasa drone that was dispatched. That capsule was Just Launched this morning, as you might know, from cape ca navallal. Got up into space, was doing 20,000 miles an hour and now, as a test, those three chutes are slowing it down to 20 miles an hour. Phil keating was there for the launch. He can help us through the splashdown. Phil . Reporter this is tremendous, firstofitskind video from a nasa unmanned drone aircraft thats been flying out 600 miles southwest of san diego over the pacific for several hours now, and the orion has performed perfectly, flawlessly, and it is about to splash down out in the pacific ocean. The drone capturing the live shot of the parachiewpts deploying, those huge orange parachutes that help slow the orion down from the 20,000 miles an hour it was doing as it reentered the earths atmosphere. Huge test for the heat shield, the largest ever designed for a spacecraft, 16 feet plus in diameter, sustaining 4,000 degrees fahrenheit. This would be about 80 of what it would sustain, it would be 5,000 degrees fahrenheit if it was returning back to earth from the moon. So thats a big test for the heat shield. This is an unmanned test flight, of course, that launched just minutes after sunrise this morning from the cape ca Cape Canaveral air force station. About 20,000 spectators thrilled who had all come out to watch this historic test flight of nasas spacecraft of the future. That is the orion. This is unmanned. Theres going to be another unmanned test flight before we actually put astronauts in there. That should happen, the astronaut trip, in 2021. And then the plan for nasa is to get to orion out to an asteroid that another spacecraft will capture, itll actually capture it, bring it into the moons orbit and the astronauts will do a spacewalk onto that asteroid. And the ultimate plan here, why there is such enormous excitement at nasa and its subsidiaries is that this is the spacecraft, according to plan and intention, will eventually in the 2030s take astronauts all the way to mars, making them the first human beings ever to set foot on the red planet. This is an historic day here, an outstanding test flight, the Maiden Voyage for the orion. The castle built by lockheed martin, blasting it off, that was built by united launch alliance. Nasa involved, Marshall Space Center in alabama, stennis outside of new orleans in mississippi, just a whole collective congratulations going out amongst themselves today as the orion now splashing down. Theres a navy ship out there, a speciallydesigned navy ship, and a couple of boats will go out to the spacecraft as it floats on the ocean. The waves out there are roughly 45 feet, so thats really great. Anything bigger than 11 feet, and it really would have been a tricky recovery operation. So in about several hours theyll tow it back to the ship, put it underneath the ship inside a special hangar thatll fill up with water and bring it back to sand san diego over the weekend. Jon looks like a success. Phil keating, thanks. Heather right now a quick look at whats to come in this hour of happening now. The journal isist behind a shocking article on an alleged gang rape at the university of virginia now coming under fire, several Media Outlets raising major questions about who the reporter didnt talk to. Our media panel will take a look. And then stunning developments in the case of a montana man whos accused of shooting an unarmed German Exchange student. New testimony that could turn the tables in this closelywatched selfdefense trial. And dining out may now require a little bit more math on your part if one big city restaurant has its way. The new checks adding one more line for a tip. Well tell you who that might go to. Jon some new developments to bring you on an explosive article in last months Rolling Stone magazine. It detailed a shocking allegation or alleged rape, i should say, gang rape in a from they werety house at the university of Fraternity House at the university of virginia. Now the journalist behind it is facing criticism as several other reporters raise concerns because, among other things, she did not interview the alleged perpetrators of the attack or their lawyers to get their side of the story. Some are wondering whether the attack happened at all. Lets bring in judith miller, pulitzer prizewinning Investigative Reporter and lynn sweet, Washington Bureau chief for the chicago suntimes. Lets talk a little bit, first of all, judy, about just what happened. This was alleged to have taken place at one particular fraternity on the uva campus. I mean, fraternities are relatively small, so not a whole lot of men can be implicated here, and the suggestion, i mean, the story says this woman was taken there and gang raped. But the criticism these days is that she apparently didnt go to the house, doesnt offer to, you know, didnt ask to speak to any of the alleged perpetrators of this crime. Right. Thats the main objection to the story which is very well reported and extremely powerful, jon, which is why its raised so much anxiety both within the University Community and among the general public. Jon is well, let me stop you there she didnt, she didnt talk to the people whom she accuses of having conducted this rape. She says that she tried to reach them. Eric wemple of the Washington Post said did you send them certified letters, emails, how hard did you try. So the fact that she relies on so many Anonymous Sources is being raised to cast doubt on the entire article which i think is unfortunate. Jon let me just clarify something, because you said well reported, but you do have some qualms about some of whats gone on here . Well, of course. You know, whenever youre using Anonymous Sources and almost everyone in this story is anonymous, you know, the perpetrator, the victim is anonymous, theyre using pseudonyms its incumbent upon you to go the extra mile to make sure you contact the people whom youre accusing of a terrible, terrible crime. But i think whats really sad as far as im concerned is that this has really buried the importance of the story, the issue that the journalist raises which is the climate at the uva campus and perhaps other campuses about sexual misconduct. She points out, for example, that there were 183 cases of people who were expelled from the University Since 1998. Not one, not one of them for sexual misconduct. Thats a rather unusual situation, i think, given what seems to be going on today among american campuses. Jon yeah, she started to sort of back away from, well, i guess her belief in the victims account. She says the degree of her trauma, theres no doubt in my mind that something happened to her that night, what exactly happened, you know, i wasnt in that room, i dont know. Well, reporters all the time, as judy knows and you know, jon, youre not there. Its incumbent on the reporter to figure it out and in a credible and, given that its Rolling Stone and they were not under a deadline pressure and this was a story of choice not of need, its just tragic that you take this very, very serious issue of date rape and rape on campuses and now have to have some fog over it because the author didnt do all her work. And one thing that i found most interesting in the slate interview when she was asked how did you try and contact the boys, she said, well, the web page contact was out of date. Please. Okay, i can hear judy raising her eyebrows now, right . Right. [laughter] do a little more than that. Yeah. And thats the problem. Frankly, because she wanted to write with a compelling, anecdote alleyed, she took away what does seem to show in her reporting that the university is acknowledging that there is a problem on campus. So she had a story, but because of the need to have a powerful narrative to try and, what, make us realize that the pain and suffering that the woman goes through is real . I think we know that. I think theres a lot of sympathy for rape interviews. So trading off a narrative lead that now turns out to be a side show taking away from what uva seems to recognize and there is data there that theyre talking about problems there. Jon right, judy. Judy, as you point out, there is a larger issue here that deserves some coverage, but the fear is that she may have gone overboard, may have even, you know, either accepted as gospel some things that respect true or may have that arent true or may have funnelinged some of this herself, and if thats the case, it takes away from the larger issue. Right, exactly. And that, i think, is the real tragedy of this situation. Yeah. Sabrina erdely will or will not survive this as a reporter. So far Rolling Stone is standing behind her reporting and saying they did try to reach these people, the young men involved, but i think the issue itself of date rape and the fact that in many campuses were hearing the opposite, that is that the people being accused of carrying out a rape dont have rights and are being kind of railroaded into admitting things they didnt even do. I mean, this is a hot topic that requires really thoughtful debate and yelling about whether or not she did or did not conduct her, this reporter conduct herself appropriately and do her Due Diligence has completely buried that issue and undermined the importance of it, and im sorry about that. Jon and, lynn, very quickly, again, the Fraternity House, Everybody Knows which fraternity were talking about here, and every member of that house is suddenly a suspect. Right. Which isnt fair either. Thats why i think, you know, this is why when reporters want this vivid narrative lead, youd better make it airtight. And by the way, if you have a controversial story, i dont know why shes doing these interviews because she doesnt seem to have, as slate said, she doesnt have the mastery of the topic that when you live with a story you have. She should let her story speak for itself. And, by the way, its hard to believe that none of these students have lawyers involved, because lawyers even are even good issuing a no comment. And i cant tell you, you just dont even see that out there. Right. Jon lynn sweet, judy miller, good discussion. Thank you both. Thank you, jon. Heather well, an accused killer on the hot seat. He is claiming selfdefense, but wait until you hear what a hairstylist heard him say. Lots of things that show this case was not justifiable force. Jon lets head over to the outnumbered studios, sandra and andrea, what do you have . Hey, jon. Well, now they tell us. The administration finally anytiming many premiums admitting many premiums will go up on healthcare. Gov next year, but, hey, the Affordable Care act can still be affordable if you shop around all over again. So much for if you like your plan, you can keep it, right . Plus, Hillary Clinton says smart power means america should empathize with its enemies. What does that mean, and how how would it play on the campaign trail . And if you thought victorias secret models were promoting perfect bodies, some of those angels reportedly calling themselves feminists. Could they be right . All that plus our hashtag one lucky guy, one of our very favorites, at the top of the hour. Jon looking forward to that. See you then. Thank you. Heather well, some blockbuster testimony in the trial of a montana man who admits to shooting and killing a Foreign Exchange student who entered his garage at night after two recent robberies had taken place not long before. Marcus karma is the homeowner, and he claims he was acting in selfdefense when he shot the student. Now a jury is hearing that case. But in a stunning twist, listen to this testimony he had said hes really tired and that hed been sitting up for three days waiting to shoot some fing kids. That testimony coming from a hairdresser who had apparently seen him just a day or two before he shot that young man. Fred tecce is a former federal prosecutor, ashley merchant is a defense attorney. Fred, boy, this case had been looking like it was in the homeowners favor because montana has really strong stand your ground laws, but does this now point to premeditation . Boggles my mind what people tell their hair dresser, thats why i have the same guy cutting my hair for 20 years. I actually think it wasnt a tough case for the state. This guy pulled his shotguns out of his garage, hes waiting, theres nothing in your garage worth shooting a kid over, im sorry. I think the guys going to get convicted. Heather ashley, what about that . Jon and i were talking about it yesterday, jons from the west, ive got family in the west, theres a real strong sense of, you know, this is my property, you dont just enter someones property. I think without this hairdressers testimony with a montana jury, i think the state would have had a very hard time getting a conviction because montana jurors tend to like stand your ground and the right to to bear arms and the right to protect your property from burglars like these kids. They were actually there to commit a crime. But with this hairdressers testimony, it really, really turned what his intent was, whether or not he was really protecting his home or whether or not he actually was setting out to kill these kids. Health. Heather and, fred . I believe in firearms, i believe in protecting your home, okay . But if someone comes up the steps of your house, you shoot them. You dont leave your garage open and clean your shotgun waiting for people to come steal your personal possessions. He stepped over the line. Heather some of the neighbors said it was unusual for him to keep his garage door open, he did keep it open that night leading some to believe he did plan this all around. Fred and ashley, id like you to stick around for another story we are following in connecticut. Well be right back to talk about that on the other side. Ty . Dont put off checking out your Medicare Options until 65. Now is a good time to get the ball rolling. Medicare only covers about 80 of part b medical costs. The rest is up to you. Thats where aarp Medicare Supplement insurance plans, insured by unitedhealthcare insurance company, come in. Like all standardized Medicare Supplement insurance plans, they could help save you in outofpocket medical costs. Taking informed steps really makes a difference later. Thats what it means to go long™. 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Theyre really coming down hard on the exhusband, and theyre asking him, you know, did you, did you degrade your wife, did you mock your wife, did you do this, did you do that, did you place her phone number on craigs list advertising sex, they are now trying to paint the victim as the bad guy. Fred . [laughter] its like ill let ashley tell you, but its criminal defense 101, try to get the jury to look at Everything Else in the world except for the one most important fact which is this woman wanted to pay a man five grand to kill her husband, so she picked a guy who was a bad guy because, unfortunately or fortunately, rack buys, priest rabbis, priests and nuns dont kill people for money. What the criminal defense lawyer is doing is attacking all of this, and at the end of the day, he cant t away attention for the two taped phone calls made by this woman setting this whole thing up. Heather ashley, i wonder if theyre trying to use this as sort of a mitigating factor in the case. What do you think of that . Oh, definitely. Theyre trying to divert any attention they can from these audio recordings. Theres nothing worse than when your client commits a crime on tape. And theyve got an audio recording of her hiring this hitman and trying to make these arrangements. Theyve got to do everything in their power to try and deflect from that and focus on Something Else and make the victim out to be the bad guy. And also theyre trying to come up with an alternative theory that maybe a bookie was trying to kill him, maybe somebody else in his life was trying to kill him hoping to deflect from the truth and what really happened in this case. I guess, fred, this is what you would call reasonable doubt. No, not hardly because if it was a bookie, while he try and kill him . If the guy gets the daughter, he gets 50 million, and bookie gets paid. That theorys not going to go anywhere. A tough case for the defense, unfortunately, thats what you get. Heather it sounds like you throw in a bunch of money, hes reportedly worth about 50 million, and somebody wants custody of their daughter, and it just sounds like this whole case is ugly. Its got to be hard for the jury to look at that, but were going to have to leave it there. I just feel bad for this 9yearold, the daughter whose custody is at issue. Heather it is an ugly case. Fred, ashley, thanks for sticking around to talk about this topic. Jon brand new stories were working in the next hour of happening now, police in florida searching for a suspect who might have sparked this tragedy. And new york citys mayor expected to roll out new legislation that will ban the citys iconic horsedrawn carriages. The reason behind this controversial move and what drivers and their supporters are saying about it. Jon we have some Great Stories coming up in our second hour, outnumbered starts right now. 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