vehicle and fire opened fire again. >> he got no fort hood this year. what we don't know is what set him off. according to the base commander, general mark milley, he was being treated for behavior and mental health issue, specifically deexpression and anxiety and you was taking medication. he served four months in iraq in 2011 and claimed a traumatic brain injury but was not wounded in action according to the army. he may have claimed he had ptsd but he had not been diagnosed with post traumatic stress syndrome. the army says he bought his.45 smith and wesson off the post recently but didn't verge with army officials like he was righted to do and it is still unclear why he entered the medical brigade and opened fire yesterday. he left that building, got in his in his vehicle continued firing. he went into a second building where the transportation was headquarter. he was cornered this a parking lot, raised his hands and then reached for his gun under his jacket and that's what a female mmop drew her weapon and he put the gun to his head and pulled the trigger. >> at that moment in time, she did her job and she was doing exactly what we would expect of a united states military army police. >> you may remember it was another female mp, major nadal, kimberer berry mounded was sounded who was shot and paralyzed and is now at fortlerworth sentenced to death. we are waiting for another briefing outside of fort hood and hopefully more details on what lead this soldier to turn a weapon against his own people. >> let's hope we get more answers. that is awful. >> let's bring in the fox news analyst. you spent some time during your career at fort hood. what is your initial reaction to what we just learned in the news so far? >> it's just tragic. you know, the greatest killer of soldiers in all army bases is the automobile, followed secondly by individually on weapons. and you know, fort hood, fort sill, all of the posts that my wife and i have live on over the last 50 years or so, we in the army community consider them to be sanctuarys. sanction sanctua. it's a place to get away. it's a place for familyings can congregate and that's why something like this in fort hood is so tuke the army family. it is devastating, particularly to the spouses who view this as their sanctuary. >> we have seen the photographs. and one could only hear some of these women what have gone through, wondering about the safety of their husbands ands and here they are at the base where their husbands are supposed to be safe. some of us haven't lived on a military base. in general, how securit how is y done? >> obviously, the first responders and visit-i civilian, they have vehicles that allow them to get very quickly to a scene of an incident and a connected through a sort of internal police network and as you saw in this instance, the mps about get there fairly quickly. the issue now is well, should we have more guns or should we have greater security? the anticipation is answer is m. in the 1970s the army had a real problem if the barracks and allowed summers to carry side arms and the them around the posts and it worked. so there are more stringent alternatives to what we do now but the last thing i want to see is a sort that. remember the weapons on army posts carried by soldiers sadly, too often, cause number one, suicides, second is accidental discharge and third is a soldier on soldiers on soldier confrontations. that's far more dangerous and it happens all too often, particularly after a iraq and afghanistan are the suicide rate in the army is going through the roof and incidents of ptsd and emotional instability are right in our military. the last figures, like 20% of soldiers coming back from iraq and afghanistan are suffering from ptsd. the last thing we need to do is put weapons in their hands on the posts. i don't agree. >> one of the reasons why that comes up, the questions is there are tens of millions of members everyday dealing with depression and anxiety and that's something that the military said this gentleman was handling or dealing with and whether or not that's connected we don't know because we don't know the motivation yet. general, thank you. >> thank you. >> if you're watching our program yesterday, you saw a great deal of testimony in front of the the house intelligence committee. there's new information about the fall-out from the benghazi terror attack that they're examining. former cua director explaining why he to deleted references to terror imfrom talking pointed on the deadly 1/2/12 attack. he testified before the intelligence committee for hours yesterday and cooperator kathryn marriage hahair has more. >> he explained that it was not satisfying to the committee agency chairman mike rogers and other conflicts in morell's testimony. the former acting director of the cia claimed he was never motmotivated by politics. they're always based on facts. >> i take very seriously the allegations about how the cia in general and about how i in particular handled the analysis and talking points. as this committee knows, the ethical code under which intelligence officers carry out their residents calls for total objectivity. >> but during his testimony, morell admitted he personally removed the cia warnings to the state department, which included warnings to benghazi which were factual which he determined was going to embarrass the saint department. state department. >> take out everything that's related to warnings and a berm of other stuff, too. to me it seemed like you're more interested in protecting the state department tan the state department is. >> first of all, if you look at what i took out, the vast majority is information related to the warnings. but i simply saw this as a way for cia to pound its chest and say, look, we warned, therefore laying the blame on the state department. i did not think that appropriate. >> so this conflict between what morell said he believes and what he did and who he underscored in an email from the director david petraeus at the time the talking points were written. the language about the warnings was factual and relevant and petraeus felt it should have been included because without it, he said, the talking points were useless. so despite the admonition of his boss, the cia director at the time, morell went ahead and removed that factual language about the warnings and that is significant because when morell retired from the cia he said in his exit interview that he wanted to advice a presidential campaign in the future and anonymous sources said that he was very close to mrs. clinton. so what you see here is he removed factual warnings that only helped the state department and in effect damaged the cia. >> wow, what a development. >> thank you. >> we'll talk more about that coming up. in the mean tile new concerns about an obama administration plan to give up control of the internet and what could happen if the foreign government like russia or china could get the chance to empower over the web. we're live in washington looking at this. >> you know, most people have never heard of i cam but it controlled the internet, sends users to proper websites, controls domain names and assigns addresss. the department of commerce watchs to transfer that to the international community when its contract runs out in september of 2015 and that has raised tremendous concern, especially among conservatives. >> crossed any other government, the chinas of the world, russias to control that which they seek not have available, even to their own population. i don't want america subject to others who are not as free and open as we are. >> the president of icam said they will not accept a plan and does not remain the security system and one that is defined by the openness of the internet. a former general council for the department of commerce adds that fears of authoritarian take-over of the internet are greatly exaggerated. the president of i ca i cam this been under consideration for year buzz has become for obvious to federal government since the leaks by edward snowden. >> a lot about this story and how it develops. >> some dramatic developments in the so-called stiletto murder trial, the case of a man beaten to death with a shoe. the jury just learned who actually bought the shoe, our legal panel weighs in with more. also, with are live at the white house as new data from a major ensurer suggests the 7 plus million number for obamacare enrealees may be way off. we'll go in depth on this next. vo: once upon a time there was a boy who traveled to a faraway place where castles were houses and valiant knights stood watch for the kingdom was vast and monsters lurked in the deep and the good queen showed the boy it could all be real avo: all of great britain, all in one place fore april 30th and save up to thirty percent. 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the whole story of whether this massive overall of the insurance industry will work or not. >> right, we should be surprised that the administration is spitting the numbers. that's what they do and is done here in washington but if you step back, even giving it is skeptical look, you have to give the white house credit from recovering from a terrible launch am getting close to its number but the white house is making a mistake by patting themselves on the back so hard that it has to be hurting them. first of all, all that happened here are the bureaucracy accurates and white house did their job. does a they just do not their job done. it's just the first step that will will be complicated process. next year we're looking at much meyer premiums. we'll look at a lot less choice. how do member people accept that, should we adjust the law? are the democrats talking about figuring the law or is it lip service? if they were willing to fix it, will the republicans be willing to make this is durable law that is actually bipartisan and actually accepted by the american people. >> i was talking to a friend of mine last night who got his 2013 income taxes done and took a look at the refund. he asked me if i had done it yet, which i haven't. he said, they ate an enormous amount of his 2013 income for obamacare. that's another issue that nobody has talked a lot about but as you say, some of the questions are yet to come. >> well, i'll go bredder, your friend is an example of reverse hey low effect. that people because this is such a big change in our economy, in our social compact, everything they see wrong with the healthcare, from a smug doctor to a bandage that comes off too hard, it's going to be easy to lay that at the feet of the obama administration whether they deserve blame or not. your friend, whether or not his higher tax rate was really due to a pretty modest fee, at least for this first year on obamacare, it really isn't as reel haven't as the fact that he thinks it's because of obamacare. and there's a lot of that going on. >> it's true that the president, i mean, even in that rose garden ceremony where he was taking his victory lap, he blamed a lot of the problems on republicans. i mean, he owns this thing now? he has to take responsibility for all of it. >> well, we own it. this is something that our government now does own and it is the law of this country. so we should work together to make it better. he claims his party claims they want to fix it. if they really wanted to picture it, they would know to work with the republican party you wouldn't stand there in the rose garden and mock them. that was the hope yesterday. literally in the newspapers, the president mocks the republican party. that's not the way a leader who wants to work across party lines operates. that's the way you operate when all you care about is winning the new cycle and lengths. if you want to make this bill better and durable and you want to make it that will last beyond your presidency and the next election, find away to coon a few republicans and bring in a few republicans, due modest changes so it can't be seen as a democratic law, which it is now. >> you say that he has shown, the president has shown little interest in the sort of hard work the nutty-gritty of government. >> yeah, it's not just with this bill. we saw it with the roll-out and time and time again. a guy who has a lot of vision, a very clear sense of what he wants to do for the country in support of more than a majority of the country. but when it comes down to implementing his vision, that's why there's a big distance between the lip and the cuff. we saw it yesterday. i'm someone who wants this bill to work but it won't work if both partys stay in their corners and if the president of the united states who has the most political leverage mocking the other side and gives lip service. >> ron fornie is senior crommist, thancrommist. at the texas hospital where the most seriously injured victims are being treated at this tame. we'll bring you that news conference when it happens and bring you all of the updates on their conditions. plus, in the meantime in houston, new developments in the city let toe stabbing trial happening now. the defense taking its chance to convince jurors this was selfdefense, not murder. about business internet? ok, how about thirty seconds? at comcast business our internet is fast. up to 5x faster than dsl from the phone company. and our phone's better too. switch to comcast business internet. then add voice and tv for just $34.90 more per month. time to make the call. 800-501-6000 comcast business. built for business. >> the top stories today the fort hood shooting. we're awaiting a news conference at a texas hospital where victims of the shooting are being treated. a gunman opened fire on the base yesterday and killing three people. he wounded 16 others before taking his own life. the hospital that we're showing you on the screen is treating majority of the victims. we do know the victims were military personnel and we'll bring you the news conference as soon as it starts. apple. >> that's some new information now in the so-called still let toe must trial. a texas woman accused of stabbing her boyfriend to death with the five-inch heel of one of her very expensive swa suede shoes. her lawyer is claiming this was selfdefense. >> she talked about being smothered and he was grabbing her and that's when she started hitting with the shoe. i'll say he was 40 or 50 pounds heavier. >> whether there was violence in the relationship already and she had to defend her service. that is usually pretty key to the question as, how many stabs are too many? when would it go beyond selfdefense? >> we're live in the new york city newsroom with more on that strange case. >> very strange case. it was a pair of cobalt blue pumps with five inch heels, a gulf from anderson, along with a $4,000 handbag, purchased for her months before one of the somewhat hundred dollars stilettos became a administered weapon. yesterday in court, he told shed jurors how everything went down. she told police of an intense argue the with her boyfriend, 59-year-old stephan anderson and she say things got physical and her boyfriend wrestled her to the floor and laid on top of her. when this happened, she couldn't breathe. she begged her boyfriend to get off of her and that's when she grabbed the city le stilettos. she questioned t confessed afted was killed. i hit him a couple of times, quote she said and prosecutors say she stabbed her boyfriend in the face at least 25 times. on the video tape she demonstrated she waps on her stomach blindsly swinging the shoe behind her until the boyfriend lost his bam. defense witnessss say the above was treated for alcoholism a year earlier but had relapsed. trehio were 45 years old, a selfproclaimed artist on trial for a murder charge. her lawyer was saying it was selfdefense, the trial is expected to last more than a week, if con contradicted he faces a max of life in prison. john? >> yeah, it's the 25 swings or 25 impacts with the shoe that raise so many eyebrows. she is saying she couldn't see what she was swinging at. >> couldn't see. i think you're doing the legal panel or you or jenna. can't wait to hear about it. we just told you about a series of reports suggesting as many of 20% of enrollees of obamacare have not paid. while the white house talks about 7-point is million enrealees, there are big questions over how much obamacare will cost employers and consumers in the coming year. a survey done by a conservative leaning thing tank, they will face costs as high as $5,900 per worker over the next decade. joining me now is the formal director of the congressional budget office and president of the american action forum. so doug, we're caught on this number, 7 million number, it's a big number but as far as the commissions, the general experience of consumers in the marketplace, what is the most important thing to pay attention to? >> you think it's the cost of healthcare. this has been a troubling problem for our economy for awhile. we see healthcare spending rise and when spending rising the cost of insurance goes up. in the study you mentioned, that $5,900 turns out to be a big bill for our biggest businesss. they're looking at hundreds of millions of dollars. >> does that $5,900 estimated again according to this survey have anything to do with the number of enrollees in. >> no, nothing to do with the enrollee. that's a separate and very tiny population, about 2%. employers are the biggest source of insurance. what this says the mandates that come with the obamacare, the taxes, the fees, they'll add to that bill. >> you're the second person this week that talked about the regulations and changes that the healthcare law brought that has nothing to do with the numbers that we'll be receiving. so if our companys are facing a higher price than $600,000 more a person, what does that mean for us? >> if we were to put $6,000 in taxes into our businesss, we would expect less hiring and slower growth and we would expect fewer raises and that's capital what obamacare. it's a negative commission policy and we're already paying for it. we'll pay moor in the future. >> critics of the survey say there's a lot of changes that businesss and companys were making ahead of the law. that that is a low-moving current and the higher costs are coming no matter what and companys had to figure that out. to that you say what? >> it is true businesss are struggling with the high cost of health insurance but this makes it worse so it will accelerate whatever they were doing already and the things they were doing was making employees pay more, giving them less generous insurance, hig hiring fewer peoe and that's got good news for the american people. >> we're focused on the numbers and we want to make sure we're talking about healthcare in general. we haven't talked about medicare. we have talked about medicaid but as far as entitlesments, the real health costs that the obstacle is facing, again, taking a look at the 7 million number, what does that actually many for some of those issues bubbing up? >> we haven't touched medicare. it's a financial problem. there a 300 billion-dollar deficit from medicare alone. it's not a great program for seniors, they don't get high quality air at a cost they can afford and unless we fix it, we'll continue to practice bad medicine through the american medical system. >> one wonders if anyone will touch that over the next several months or areas. doug, we would love to have you back as we were talking about when we were bumped yesterday for the benghazi hearing. >> thank you. >> and a related wish be the middle class is the vital heart of our country, of course, but could this status be slipping out of reach for more and more americans? we're live with some numbers and that story, plus how it could impact the upcoming mid-term elections. and chile' hit again by a second howerful earthquake. the damage and fears that it would happen again. powerful earthquake. co: i've always found you don't know you need a hotel room until you're sure you do. bartender: thanks, captain obvious. co: which is what makes using the hotels.com mobile app so useful. i can book a nearby hotel room from wherever i am. or, i could not book a hotel room and put my cellphone back into my pocket as if nothing happened. hotels.com. i don't need it right now. >> a business alert in the mud class. a recent poll shows a growing number of americans no longer feel part of the class that plays a crew role in this country. research centers fapping people that call themselves middle class plunged bid northeasterly 1/5 since the recession dropping from 53% to 44%. we are live with more on this. >> you're right pup it's been about five years since the recession ended and it feels like we're in one as the few of the number of americans on record are now defining themselves as middle class. the economists and businesss, they're worried. that's because consumer spending makes up 70% of total commission activity and so many people are making less, they're likely spending less. and that's causing many economists to call the last decade, the loft decade with medium incomes dropping $4,000 between 2001 and 2010 with the average household of three bringing in $69,000, bringing in less because the job market has far from recovered. we'll get an update tomorrow with the march job's report but if you're keeping track here and we are, of the nearly 9 million jobs lost during and a little after the reserves, we're still about 700,000 short and many of the jobs that have been regained are simply not as good as the ones that were lost. all of this highlights the growing gap between the rich and everybody else. what's more here is that researchers with the university of chicago find that those identifying themselves as lower class, those versus also increase. >> thank you very much. certainly a lot more. we have coming up police interview as well and in the meantime we'll run to the scott white memorial hospital in texas where victims of the ford hood shooting are being treated. >> thank you for the exceptional care team here for what they did last night and what they're doing today. >> dr. davis? >> thank you. i want to detective with some of the comments before i begin addressing the patient stut. darnel hospital did an exceptional job. i had would like to thank my colleagues in trauma applying with the nurse an issue cu. i think it was a well-play team effort. in terms of the patients, there are nine patients here and scott and white. three remain in critical condition and five others, two of those what i would consider fair condition and remainedder are in good condition. there is a possibility that several of them may be discharged from the hospital today, some forced with minor injurys anininjurys. the one who are awake and talking are in good spirits. i visited with them and their familys made it to the bed sued. we have been able to contact all family members for each of the patients who are here and so that has been a good thing to accomplish this morning. again, they're in good spirits. we've had some good discussions this morning. the at this point, that's what i had prepared. i'm happy to try to answer any questions that you have. apple. >> can you describe the injurys for the critical patients? >> sure. our critical patients have some injurys to the neck. we have a potential spine injury and we also have an abdominal just. those are the three patients that are in critical condition. >> doctor, you mentioned this morning that they would have to have further surgery today. have they? >> this are two patients who will require further surgery. the third is undergoing diagnostic testing and not clear whether he will need surgery. the other two will undergo reoperation one today pup one probably tomorrow. the one patient that has and abdominal injury will need to make sure the pleading is controlled. the idea is to reestablish the continuity of the intestines and do resection there and basically make sure that everything is fisredto be put together. the neck injury we'll need further reexploration,. >> doctor, are any of the victims that are veterans? >> any understandings -- >> you're hearing from scott white memorial hospital in temple texas that treated administrator ever the victims in the fort hood shooting that happened last night. dr. davis who just spoke there, who is speaking again is the trauma director with a sense some of the injurys that they're facing. he said, a neck injury, potential spine injury and abdominal injury, those are the three that are still in critical condition. he had some other good things to say about some of those also suffering from their wound, that those who are awake in good spirits. we'll take that update for what it is. obviously this is is quickly moving story. watch the entire news conference live on fox news. as lauren told us a minute ago, the number of americans who identified thems as members of the middle class has fallen sharply over the last circumstance years. what does that mean for commission policy and politics in this country? a debate on that is just ahead. >> a bit of commission pessimism in the last suggestion years the number of americans who identify themselves as middle class has fallen by nearly one fifth. why and what are the ramifications and how does it affect our politics? let's get it into with a fox news analyst and a strategist and radio talk show host. >> this is important, angela, because of the economists say how we feel is how we act. if we are feeling like we don't -- like we're not in the middle class, no money to spend, we won't spend it and keep feeding the economy. what do you see as the worst the ramification of this particular poll? >> i see work ramifications more the less. the bottom line is this, you have politicians from left play the blame game to put the rich verse the poor, the have versus the havenots but you have not seen behind me under democratic leader harry reid actually put forth policy policies that proms individual parent. responsibility. we've seen more people on food stamped and and the ramifications you'll see change within the congress. >> richard, what is your take? >> i have too tell you, i think there's no question the american people are hurting and this economy has been tough on them, just like here in washington. but the truth is, we need common sense solutions, folks in washington to come together and get the work done. unfortunately, what we've seen from john boehner and paul ryan in this new budged is more cuts and more harm to the poor in this country. >> at least they offered a budget, rich. >> they have to put the american people on track. >> let me just play devil's advocate. the number one issue, time and time again this is country is jobs when you ask what the issue is. the president spent much of his first term and much of his second term working on healthcare reform. >> listen, the president works with a lot of things beyond healthcare reform but he's worked on jobs. a recent report came out from the u.s. army core of engineers that says our rail systems and bridges are delapidated. if we invest money in this we could put americans back to work. i think angela and i can agree americans need to get back to work. >> those are several ready projects the president couldn't find the first time around. >> exactly. this president is throwing money at the problem and we've seen government growth. yes, we've seen the auto bait out but it didn't create for jobs and more money thrown at stimulus packages and the president promote a job bill that didn't pass through the congress because people from the left had a conscience and didn't vote for it. i agree with you, we need to see the left and right work together, but more people today are suffering. and if you have a job today, rich, we have seen more people live paycheck to paycheck. a lot of people don't believe that the american dream is attainable for them today. >> i completely lag there agree. the member dream, we're losing that. folks are going to college and not getting jobs. this is not what you saw with a chain saw. this president has tried to find ways rebuild the economy. he had to stop the pleading. we had 48 consecutive months of job growth and republicans and democrats have to come together to pass meaningful solutions to get americans back to work. the president is open to different ideas. let's cut tax and middle class families but reinvest in the infrastructure, build airports, schools, police officers. , create jobs. >> rich, rich, we put millions of dollars dollars under nancy i and state infrastructure but people don't have jobs. a lot of your millennials, some people your age are not democrat or republican but independents. because both parties from their standpoint -- when i grew up if you got a college degree, you could get a job but where are the jobs? and the only way we can stop poverty and the pleading is to have true policys that puts this country on the word to prosperity. >> i agree. >> i have two kids out of college and both of them have jobs, i'm happy top say. thato say say both have jobs. thank you both. charges that a former cia acting director may have contradicted himself during the testimony on the benghazi attacks. why our next guest believes mike morrell wasn't being truthful on the stand. you know how painful heartburn can be. for fast, long lasting relief, use doctor recommended gaviscon®. only gaviscon® forms a protective barrier that helps block stomach acid from splashing up- relieving the pain quickly. try fast, long lasting gaviscon®. there was a boy who traveled to a faraway place relieving the pain quickly. where castles were houses and 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do you believe he's not began did? >> i think mike morrell represents the very worst of this environment in washington, d.c. when it comes to a revolving door. where we see people, high level administration go out, leave the administration and work somewhere that has relationships with other companies do government contract work and stay there in the hopes that they'll be selected to come back to a higher level position p their candidate, in this case hilary clinton, winces in presidency. i believe mike morrell would like to be the director of central intelligence under hilary or the director of national intelligence under hilary and as a result, he's very careful about what he says, particularly when it comes to saying anything that might criticize hilary or the state department. >> he refused to claim a portion and there are editorials and i want to share this that takes on the republicans and critics of mike morrell. here is at the article in the washington post. perhaps the chief remaining mystery about benghazi is why republicans are still harping 19 months after the attack and so willing to attack career diplomats, military officers and intelligence officers in their gejihadadministration. bureauic administration, sure that might have happened with the talking points but it's not a conspiracy, to that you say what? >> americans still deserve to know what happened at benghazi and why. there's no question and there's a lot of information still being withheld. we have never held hilary held accountable here. the white house has never been held accountable. where was the president the night benghazi happened? what was hilary doing that night or the military doing, in fact. i can tell you there's a lot of people inside of the agency, inside of the military who are outraged at what mike morrell said. >> let's talk about that. i don't mean to interrupt you there but i want you to make your point. there was a headline from the hearing yesterday that the fact mike morrell seemed to trust analysts that langley rather than the people on the ground that that were eye witnesss to attack. i was curious about your thoughts about on that. here we have an entire generation of soldiers should have come face to face with the enemy and up against the people in d.c. and offices that have not. that tension is an important tension to talk about. >> it's inconceivable that anybody would go against the chief of stations, the director of central intelligence. in fact, the president's number one intelligence man in that country, we have a chief of station literally in every country. i have worked with many chiefs. when a chief of station says something, the people back in washington listen to him first, not to analysts. if you peel back, he said yesterday he was based on what the analyst said because they had gotten a lot of press relates, great. if they said i want to see those press reports on which your analysts base the information, that the attack was based on demonstrations and not a terrorist attack. so it's inconceivable to anyone in not agency. i speak for friends in the agency before and in the agency now. it's inconceivable that anybody would go to and analyst's assessment before the assessment of the chief of station. morell did that and did it clearly for political purposes. >> that raises the question, moving forward with all of the people on the front lines, if we're trusting them enough and their experiences. thank you both for joining us. >> thank you. >> that is the big mysteries there, where why the people on the front lines, why their opinions were not considered first. chaos and fear add fort hood after another gunman opens fire, killing three people before taking his own life. the latest on the second massacre at that base in less than five years and a man sentenced to prison for spying for israel would be set free. jonathan pollard and the pea peacocks coming up. across america, people are taking charge of their type 2 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"happening now," i'm jon scott. jenna: hi, everybody, i'm jenna lee, and this is less than five years of after another deadly shooting. some of what we know right now it is, admittedly, limited. officials identify the shooter as a soldier who opened fire yesterday killing three soldiers and wounding 16 others. the frantic calls came this on police scanners as it all unfolded. >> we have multiple gunshot victims. just be advised, they're saying that the vehicle was a dark toyota camry, and it was a unit, a specialist, that's actually active shooting. one of the platoon sergeants was shot. we have currently two victims with gunshot wounds. there's one walking around conscious and breathing, injured on his left side, upper rib cage. we have some people on the ground. just be advised that the active shooter is currently inside the building. jenna: the shooter was identified as ivan lopez, a soldier who worked as a truck driver. the hospital treating some of the victims holding a news conference moments ago. take a listen. >> in terms of the patients, this morning we do have nine patients here. three of them remain in critical condition. we have five others. two of those are what i would consider fair condition, and the remainder are in good condition. there is a possibility that several of them may actually be discharged from the hospital today. some of those were fortunate to have minor injuries. jenna: live team fox coverage, wendell goler live at the white house, jay carney's set to give a brief at any moment, but we're going to begin with casey steegal with more on what we're learning now, today. casey? >> reporter: yeah, jenna. you mentioned that hospital press conference, it literally just p wrapped up moments ago. it happened at the scott and white memorial hospital which we should explain is about 30 miles or so to the east of us in temple, texas. it is a major level i trauma center, so the most serious people were airlifted and taken by ground ambulance to that facility. aside from what you just heard, another major headline we've been able to glean from doctors who have been speaking there is that out of the three patients who are critical at this hour, two will need additional surgeries. one has a very bad neck injury, one has a very bad spine injury, and one is severely injured in the abdominal region. meantime, we are learning more about the gunman who took his own life on this texas military post yesterday. the 35-year-old man has been identified as ivan lopez. he enlisted in the army in 2008 and was a truck driver. he had deployed to iraq. he spent a few months there, but officials say he did not see or witness any combat wheel he was oversea -- while he was overseas. in fact, the secretary of the army says he was of just examined by a psychiatrist just within the last month or so and found to have, quote, no violent or suicidal tendencies. however, military officials here at fort hood told us last night that he was being treated for some mental health issues, that he was taking certain medications for anxiety and depression and, obviously, the search into his background is a very deep search currently underway. multiple agencies involved, the fbi, atf, state, federal official, you name it, they are on the ground here trying to get to the bottom of what would have caused this man to open fire on his fellow soldiers yesterday. jenna, just horrific and hard to believe we were standing here over the summer covering the court-martial of major nidal hasan who murdered people on this post back in 2009, and here we are again today. jenna: a big question of why, why did this happen? questions we don't have the answers to right now, casey. good to have you reporting at a place i know you're very familiar with. casey, thank you. jon: well, congress honoring those killed and wounded at fort hood. earlier house speaker john boehner making this statement. >> the house today joins the nation in mourning the loss of life at fort hood, and we join the president in sending our condolences to the loved ones for those who were lost. and i want the families and first responders to know that we stand with you, we stand by you, and we're praying for you. jon: and president obama speaking out shortly after learning of the shootings, offering condolences to a community still healing from the pass kerr in 2009. massacre in 2009. of wendell goler has that, he's live at the north lawn. >> reporter: jon, as you say, the president offered words of consolation, and he instructed attorney general eric holder to put the full resources of the department of justice at the disposal of officials at fort hood. holder says the fbi will be working closely with local authorities and the department of defense, and he promised the full federal investigation in addition to the local one. the president conducted a conference call with senior national security and military advisers after the shooting. he was aboard air force one returning from chicago last night. folks he talked to included defense secretary haugh l, the chairman of the joint chiefs of staff, the head of the fbi. mr. obama commentedded the first responders -- commended the first responders at fort hood. earlier in chicago he promised the government would do all it can to help the community heal. >> we're going to do everything we can to make tour -- sure that the community at fort hood has what it needs to deal with the current situation, but also any potential aftermath. we're heart broken that something like this might have happened again. >> reporter: here in washington army secretary john mchugh testified in a previously-scheduled congressional hearing as my colleague, casey steegal, reported. the soldier blamed for the shooting, ivan lopez, appeared to have no connection with extremist groups, and lopez didn't seek combat in iraq and wasn't wounded there. jon: he spent about four months there as the war was winding down, right? >> reporter: that's our understanding. jon: yeah. wendell goler, thank you. jenna: well, military officials say there's no link to terrorism in this latest shooting, but they're not this ruling anything out quite yet. unlike the 2009 tragedy when major nidal hasan killed 13 and more than 30 wounded, the military has tightened security at bases nationwide including issuing long-barreled weapon, adding an insider attack scenario to training, strengthening ties to local law enforcement and joining an fbi intelligence-sharing program. keep in mind fort hood is america's largest military base. at 335 square miles in size, it's slightly larger than austin, texas, it's bigger than new york city when you look at the geographical area. roughly 45,000 military personnel work at that base. jeff lanza is a retired fbi special agent. it's nice to have you on the program as we work big question we were just talking about with casey, how do you find out the why, what motivated this man? what are the fbi looking at, where's the investigation at hoar nearly 24 hours later? >> they'll be looking at, of course, his background, his computer, his e-mails, his other communications maybe on social media, talking to his family and try to determine if there were any warning signs either outside the base or inside the base that could have been acted upon. and in that after-action report from fort be hood in 2009, there was a specific recommendation that the military do a better job of assessing and addressing critical needs when it comes to someone that exhibits signs of potential violence. and, listen, nobody really wants to do that. a commander or anyone in the corporate world. but it has to be done because there is almost always warning signs preceding violence. and if they're not acted upon, it's really almost negligence on the part of the commander or the manager. jenna: who do you think is the most important person to talk to right now? we understand he's married, this gentleman was married. obviously, he has colleagues as well. who's the key to finding out more about the motivation here? >> right. so you start with the persons that are closest to him. that would be his wife, any brothers or sisters that he may have, his commanding officers, people that are close to him in his army position. those are the people you start with, and you work out from there. of course, any communications, writings, as i said, e-mails would be extremely important to look at to see if there are any signs, symptoms, anything that he noted that may indicate that was leading up to this. jenna: what kind of timeline are we looking at, jeff, for finding some of the key answers to these questions? >> well, the fbi and other agencies will be at work right away, but sometimes there's more tentacles to the investigation, and it could last anywhere from days to weeks before we get a clear idea of where this guy was coming from. jenna: one of the things that i know you do, you work on training when it comes to workplace violence prevention in government and in businesses. we just mentioned just how big fort hood is geographically speaking. it is like its own small city, 45,000 people. >> right. jenna: how does that complicate people or add a variable at least to the investigation? >> well, it is a big base. it's biggest one. and i think, jenna, what we might see after this incident is the possibility of the military may have metal detectors at clear entry points to these bases. the only people allowed to carry guns on those bases are law enforcement personnel, security personnel. he was clearly not allowed to carry a gun into the facility unless it was put in a special area, and if someone's bent on workplace violation, no sign -- violence, no sign, no policy is going to stop them. that's where metal detectors might come in. -and-a-half people have foil disturb. jenna: people have foiled metal detectors as well. do you really think we're going to be at that point? >> i don't know. it sounds like a crazy thing to do, but this is a crazy world that we live in. jenna: just real quick on that point, obviously, there's a special attention paid to this case because of the fort hood connection because it's a military base. especially you see the bravest among us that are defending our country have to deal with workplace violence. it's something that we don't want to see. but you yourself have consulted in companies, and there's ways that people fall through the cracks despite meeting with a psychiatrist that casey steegal was just talking to or maybe saying something to a colleague. what can we do better about that? >> well, you'll never be 100% sure in protecting your forces against attacks like this, but you can get pretty close to it. and, again, it has to do with recognizing early warning signs and greatsing those issues -- addressing those issues. no one wants to label anybody a risk because 90% of those will fall through the cracks, or 90% of them won't result in anything happening. but the point is you've got to worry about the other 10% or even 1%, and if you don't do something about it, you're not protecting the people you're responsible for. jenna: jeff, always nice to see you. rook forward to having you back. thank you. >> okay. you're welcome. jon: president obama delareing a federal disaster after -- declaring a federal disaster after that deadly mud slide in washington state. the latest on how many people crews are still searching for. and the crisis in ukraine now felt in outer space. how the east/west standoff is affecting operations at the international space station. ♪ okay, listen up! i'm re-workin' the menu. mayo? corn dogs? you are so outta here! aah! 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[announcer] purina pro plan. nutrition that performs. these days, everything is done on the internet. and tomorrow you'll do even more. that's what comcast business was built for. slow dsl from the phone company was built for stuff like this. switch to comcast business internet. then add voice and tv for just $34.90 more per month. and you'll be ready for tomorrow today. comcast business. built for business. jenna: well, a 63-year-old woman is presumed dead. it's believed -- it's believed -- she was attacked by a large shark while swimming with friends off the east coast of australia. believed is the keyword here because it's a little bit of a mystery. >> reporter: yeah. police don't know for sure, but where you're talking about is a popular beach on the east coast of australia are, 210 miles south of is sydney. it's a swim from the wharf to the beach and back again. it's an annual event that attracts hundreds of swimmers each summer and, unfortunately, christine armstrong was killed as she attempted to swim the almost 2,000-foot distance. she was swimming with a group of friends including her husband, but according to police reports armstrong complained, and then she headed pack to shore. her -- back to the shore. her friends later saw a shark swimming near them, so they bunched together for safety. they say the shark appeared to be 11 feet long. armstrong was nowhere to be found. now today police deployed a land and sea search for the 63-year-old swimmer, and new reports are saying the partial remains of a woman had been found before bad weather stopped the search. meanwhile, the inspector on this case saying sightings of large sharks are rare and that he couldn't remember any other attack in the area. fourteen years is how long armstrong, a local volunteer lifeguard, had been swimming at that beach. and according to a statement released by her family, the beach is closed as investigators conduct a safety assessment. so as of now, police have found no trace of a shark. and by the way, jenna, this is making this story each sadder. armstrong and her husband had been together since they were kids. jenna: that is sad, a really sad story. hopefully, they get some answers that maybe can bring them a little peace of mind. wondering, i'm sure, is torturous. arthel, thank you. >> you're welcome. jon: back in this country, president obama dishing out some one-liners against republicans in a speech at the university of michigan. the president delivering a bunch of zingers, at one point even comparing the gop's budget plan to a foul-sounding sand we have. take a listen. >> you've got some republicans saying we shouldn't raise the minimum wage because -- [laughter] they said this -- because, well, it just helps young people. i don't know what's wrong with helping young people. [applause] [laughter] folks who say that, next thing you though they'll say get off my lawn. [laughter] if this all sounds familiar, it should be familiar because it was their economic plan in the 2012 campaign, it was their economic plan in 2010. it's like that movie groundhog day. [laughter] except it's not funny. [laughter] they tried to shove this sandwich it's called the stink burger. or the meanwich. [laughter] jon: he had been to zingerman's sandwich shop ahead of that speech, that's where the line came from. a.b. stoddard from the hill, jonah goldberg is editor at large with the national review online. we know, jonah, that the president is concerned about his legacy. he's in his last term. maybe saturday night live is in his future? >> whether yeah. look, point of personal privilege here, the guy is not funny. [laughter] jon: the crowd was laughing. >> actually, but if you see half the people e behind him, they're not even cracking a smile. i mean, not since thomas jefferson accused john adams of being a poopyhead have we heard such grade a material from a president. it was really pretty lame, i thought. of. jon: a.b., there are, obviously, seriously issues here. you know, the president is going out on the trail touting this lift, this hike this the minimum wage, $7.25 an hour right now to $10.10 an hour, but he never talks about where the money comes from. it's just like waving a magic wand and suddenly everybody in this country who's working becomes richer. >> well, president obama and his team have acknowledged in the last couple of weeks and days since they surpassed their estimated seven million for enrollments in the exchanges that would sustain the affordable care act that they really thought that there was going to be this -- there was sort of this near death experience when they thought the entire system could collapse upon itself with all the technical difficulties, so he's feeling quite ebullient right now, or you might say, after hitting that number, that sum. going out on the road now to not talk about health care anymore, but to to try to change the fortunes of democrats in the elections the this fall that are looking so bad, fighting so hard in swing states where obama is unpopular, obamacare is unpopular, to try to focus on income inequality. so this minimum wage targeting the paul ryan budget, republicans are looking to vote on the house. all of this is going to be a way to change the subject to keep his party focused on how republicans want to take everything away from you and hoping it's going to turn them out in the polls. i think it's an enormous risk, because i don't think it's going to galvanize them in light of everything else. jon: it seem, jonah, if you truly want to negotiate a deal with your political opposite, that calling them names is not necessarily the way to bring them to the table. >> that's exactly right. but there is almost no evidence that barack obama has ever really been very interested in striking a deal that doesn't ask republicans to basically surrender their principles in favor of barack obama's. and i think a.b. is entirely right. i mean, i think what we're going to see for the next year or the next six months is the president pursue a strategy that he's pursued before, that worked for him in 2012, that hasn't worked for him in 2010 when campaigning for any other candidates of these straight up, popular issue, minimum wage, income inequality. we're going to hear a lot of war on women talk. on the theory that they can turn out his base in a midterm election. of there's very little evidence that he can do that, but they don't have a lot of other tools in their tool box right now. and so that's what they're going to try to do, demonize republicans not to win over independents, certainly not to win over republican, but to get people like the folks in that audience to show up at the polls who historically don't show up for midterm elections. jon: so if that is the case, a.b., is the ryan budget in a sense playing into the president's hands in that it gives democrats and the president something to shoot at, a very big target? >> oh, yes. you're not going to hear republicans talking about it. but the ryan budget is an old reliable. the democratic party has raised untold sums of money off the ryan budget these past three, four years. so that's what they're going to keep talking about. as jonah said, kind of running, there's not a lot of options left on the table. he's running out of things that he can focus on to distract from health care. what i think would be a better thing that the president could spend his time at is try to save his senate majority by admitting obamacare needs to be reformed, working -- letting democrats say it needs to be fixed and this is how rather than trying to say republicans are taking everything away from you. because there's no -- it's harder to run against republicans, they are not shutting the government down, we're not at another debt ceiling standoff. it's really about obamacare. so i think taking that head on is much wiser than trying to go the route of income inequality. jon: well, it's just about 12:30 here on the east coast. we're going to have to say good-bye, i'm going to order myself a stink burger for lunch and see how it tastes. [laughter] thank you both. >> thank you. jenna: new information on the fort hood shooting as we continue to learn more about the man behind this crime. plus, a growing controversy over this man, a convicted spy serving a life sentence here in the united states. how his possible release figures into the middle east peace talks and why our guest says it's not a good idea. [ male announcer ] when fixed income experts... ♪ ...work with equity experts... who work with regional experts... that's when expertise happens. mfs. because there is no expertise without collaboration. jon: continuing now to monitor our top story out of fort hood, texas, where officials say an army specialist opened fire killing three other soldiers and wounding 16 more before turning the gun on himself. the base commander said he was being treated for anxiety and depression. in the united states, 16 million adults have had a major depressive episode. of those more than ten million received treatment, 45% used a combination of talk therapy and medication. about 14% used only talk therapy, about 6% used medication only. anxiety affects about 40 million adults in this country, about one-third of those receive treatment and just under ten million use antian -- anti-anxiety medication. be senior national correspondent john roberts live from atlanta. john? >> reporter: good afternoon to you. those statistics among the military as many as 30% of returning veterans from iraq and afghanistan are having some sort of mental health or behavioral issues. now, in recent years the military has become much better at identifying and addressing those issues. traumatic brain injury, for example, has become a top priority for the pentagon. and while a number of them have been closed because of the drawdowns in iraq and afghanistan, there are still a number of top flight warrior transition units across the country to treat returning service members either long term or with health issues. but those can be difficult for some service members to get into, and there are plenty of complaints that there are a lot of service members who were suffering from mental health or behavioral issues who are not getting adequate treatment. in fact, some say they're even being abused by their immediate superiors who call them slackers and complainers. some say they're even being drummed out of the military for behavioral problems that should be treated. veterans groups have been warning congress and the pentagon for years that an incident like yesterday's shooting at fort hood was just a matter of time. a veterans advocate who specializes in mental health issues: >> this is a predictable event, and if the senior leadership doesn't step in and start doing what they need to do and what they should be doing and paying attention to what investigators like myself and my colleagues are telling them, then this will repeat itself. >> reporter: the top brass at the pentagon, in fact, the chairman of the joint chiefs of staff, general martin dempsey, told me recently the military's doing all it can to help returning service members who are having problems. but when you look at the suicide statistics and, jon, they're startling, there's been a dramatic uptick in the military, eight or nine active duty or service members die by suicide every day. that's reason why advocacy groups are saying a lot more needs to be done to address this issue. jon: they need to get their arms around that problem. thanks very very much, john rob. jenna: major transfers over the possible release of a man -- paver controversy over the possible release of a man accused of spying for israel. he's serving a life sentence right now in a north carolina prison. but recent reports say the former navy intelligence analyst could be set free in a bargaining chip to keep middle east peace negotiations going. our next guest says any deal involving the release of jonathan pollard, quote, portrays a weakness on our part and a certain amount of december separationing. it -- desperation. it guarantees almost nothing. iron david miller -- aaron david miller served as an adviser to six secretaries of states and was involved in two rounds of mideast peace talks during the clinton administration, so you certainly have the chops, aaron. it's nice to have you back. >> great to be here, jenna. jenna: just tell us because our viewers may hear this name come up quite a bit, in your opinion why does jonathan pollard matter? >> well, i don't think he does in the context of an israeli/palestinian negotiation. freeing jonathan pollard for an extension of the talks, frankly, is a useless gesture. and it's like jonathan pollard apples and peace process oranges. the reality is the peace process really is in serious trouble, and it has nothing to do with jonathan pollard or palestinian prisoner releases. the reality is that the positions taken by both the prime minister and the president of the palestinian authority are simply miles apart. it's like trying to bridge a gap over the grand canyon. so the notion -- and, remember, no less than four american presidents, reagan, bush 41, clinton, bush 43 all faced with entreaties to free jonathan pollard. clinton came close, but in the end all four refused, and the question i would ask is even if jonathan pollard isn't still a security threat or a risk -- although perhaps releasing him would undermine the morale of the intelligence community, that's what george tenet argued in 1998 when he threatened to resign if bill clinton released pollard. the other reality is it's not going to help keep these negotiations on track. so in my judgment, why do it? if the president wants as a humanitarian gesture to release a guy who's served 29 years out of a life sentence who's ill, probably mentally unbalanced, relate him do it as a -- let him do it as a humanitarian gesture. but don't conflate this with the notion that somehow it's going to advance the arab/israeli peace process. i want won't. jenna: so here's some of the reasons why people say this could help. those who say, yes, release him pause he's the longest serving, he's been the longest imprisoned spy we have in the country that's been spying for an allay. he's up for parole in a year, and this would give prime minister benjamin netanyahu a boost domestically which could help him in his own politics in israel, that would also help us. of there's a little bit of a bouncing ball on that, aaron, but that's the way that supporters of it say it will help. you say that it will not because why? >> well, because the core issues that are blocking progress in this peace process have nothing to do with jon tan pollard. jonathan pollard. it's jerusalem, border security, refugees, recognition of israel as the nation tate of the jewish people. these are the core issues on can which there's been insufficient process. so in's sense, what you're doing is trading jonathan pollard to get over an april deadline to continue negotiations which, frankly, right now represent the key to an empty room. so in my view, it just doesn't make sense, and i would argue that it makes america look weak, and it really doesn't advance the pursuit of arab/israeli peace. i understand why the israelis want him. he's an american jewish spy that the israelis ran, refused to acknowledge that they were running him until 1998. he betrayed his country, the israelis betrayed him. i understand why the israelis want him. like any soldier, in their view, he's been left behind on the battlefield. so they want him back. i don't find that to be curious. that's quite natural. what is unnatural to me is why we are considering releasing him, because i just don't see what we get for it. want to trade jonathan pollard for something significant? a framework agreement? an agreement on jerusalem or borders? i'll be there breaking open the champagne. but not for this. it just doesn't make sense. jenna: not to continue for this self-imposed deadline, we should point out, the end of april for these continuing talks. to continue or to end. aaron, great to have to you on the program, as always. thank you very much. >> always a pleasure, jenna. thank you. jon: there is new fallout to tell you about from the crisis in ukraine. how it could impact our astronauts at the international space station. a live report on that next. plus, one state taking a tough new stand on the issue of adoption, giving biological fathers more of a say in the process. 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>> reporter: hi, jon. russia's annexation of crimea first got its suspended on the global stage from the g8, now it is suspended from all context between russian government officials and anybody working for nasa. at least none so far from the russian government. citing russia's, quote, ongoing violation of ukraine's sovereignty, nasa has implemented its own sanctions including no nasa travel to russia, no visits by russian government representatives to nasa facilities and no nasa nasa/russia bilateral meetings, teleconferences and video conferences. exempt from all of this is everything keeling with the -- dealing with the space station. currently residing on the space station are two americans, three russians and one japanese astronaut. whether they are talking global politics up there in space, perhaps that's best avoided for the moment. former astronaut and u.s. senator bill nelson reiterated space science will not be affected by politics down below. quote: we have co-occupied the international space station for 13 years uninterrupted through multiple international crises. and nasa administrator charles bolden says current tensions to hammer congress for what he calls underfunding the development of commercial spaceships by companies like spacex, nevada and boeing to get u.s. astronauts up to the space station on american-made rocket, not russian ones. the earliest that could happen hoar on planet earth would be the year 2017, so until then u.s. taxpayers will continue to fund $70 million every astronaut onboard a russian soyuz capsule. jon: and that's just the rice they're charging now. that could always go up if they decide to raise the price, i package. >> reporter: and nobody knows what russia's reaction to all this is going to be. jon: phil keating in miami, thank you. jenna: bell, it's a meaferl -- well, it's a major development in utah. unmarried mothers will now have a harder time giving their children up for adoption without informing the biological father. alicia acuna is live in denver following this story. >> reporter: yes, this new law will require unwed birth mothers to identify the baby's father to the court and notify him or her plans to place the baby up for adoption in utah. it also hads a residency requirement of 90 days. multiple lawsuits allege utah is a haven for birth mothers from around the country to secretly put their babies up for adoption without telling the fathers. the author of the bill said in a statement to fox news, it sends a strong message that utah respects fathers' rights and will not allow its laws to be used to perpetuate fraudulent adoptions. the utah supreme court recently sided with army veteran chris carlton. his pregnant ex-girlfriend left pennsylvania to give birth to tower daughter. she told him -- to their daughter. she told him the child died. in fact, she was placed through an adoption agency in utah. carlton is still fighting to see his daughter because as the law is written, the court cannot overturn the adoption. >> you think our children ain't going to find us online? you think our children ain't going to see your deceits? and the first question i know as the adoptive parents, why did you keep me from my biological father? he fought for me. what can you say? >> reporter: carlton's attorney told us it's a great first step, but we still have some major problems and major loopholes to close. one he says is fraud immunity. if a woman lies during the adoption process, it cannot be overturned. this birth mother, who did not place her mother in secret, insists the number of fathers defrauded is in the minority. >> it may not be a perfect law, but it is a good law, and it serves more people than it hurts. it serves many, many, many more people than it hurts. >> reporter: we were told that utah is unfairly getting a bad rap on this issue, jenna. jenna: alicia acuna live in denver, thank you. jon: well, right now tens of millions of people are in the path of severe weather. missouri already getting hit with possible tornadoes. a look at where this powerful and frightening storm system is headed next. also fort hood, devastated by another deadly shooting rampage. some new information we're learning about the gunman, coming up. thit's not the "limit yoursh hard earned cash back" card . it's not the "confused by rotating categories" card. it's the no-category-gaming, no-look-passing, clear-the-lane-i'm- going-up-strong, backboard-breaking, cash back card. this is the quicksilver cash back card from capital one. unlimited 1.5% cash back on every purchase, every single day. i'll ask again... what's in your wallet? jon: now a fox news extreme weather alert. a severe weather outbreak making its way across the plains. the national weather service tweeting that as many as 51 million americans might be affected. the storm system already causing major damage, a possible tornado ripping through this town in northern missouri. the region also seeing an increased risk for hail and flooding as well. rick reichmuth live from the fox weather center. >> reporter: and, jon, in missouri they have gone out and surveyed, and there was an ef is tornado earlier -- ef1 tornado earlier today. incredibly heavy rain across parts of indiana and illinois this morning, and flooding going on. be very careful. then we have this tornado threat, already one tornado watch box in effect be, it's there until 5 p.m., and the storms we've been seeing so far have been mostly hail and wind storms. i i think as we get towards later this afternoon and this evening, it's going to be a much bigger tornado threat and potentially around the st. louis area, so many people there, so make sure you're ready and prepared for that. also some storms crossing the red river valley down between texas and oklahoma. take a look at how big this severe threat is today. anywhere you see the yellow, i think we're going to be seeing hail and winds, but this red is the bull's eye for tornadoes, and today some of those could be strong and large. so definitely one of the first days really this year that we're going to deal with this kind of a thing. tomorrow the severe threat stretches further towards the east, although i don't think as much of a tornado threat. we're talking more wind and hail. this is that bull's eye where the storm prediction center as issued the biggest threat. april wise, this is kind of normal where you typically would see these storms. we haven't seen many thus, but we're about to get into that. a big snow event towards denver and eventually tonight into tomorrow across the northern plains, up near minneapolis, duluth, minnesota, up near a foot of snow. jon: it's april, rick. [laughter] has anybody told mother nature? >> no, clearly. not at all. jenna: staying with the weather, the u.s. military success my launching -- successfully launching a weather satellite into orbit in california this morning. the satellite was released just a few minutes later. the air force says this program has been the military's primary provider of terrestrial and space weather information for 50 years. jon: some incredible surveillance tape you have to see. it doesn't look like anyone could survive this. an suv and a train on a collision course. the traumatic conclusion and the pictures next. imagine surviving this, a commuter train slamming in a suv. the driver tries to steer around the gates that are down for a reason. not a good idea. four people inside of the suv were hurt but not badly. the driver got a ticket for running a red light and disregarding the crossing gates. they were lucky, lucky folks. >> now for a programming note. fox nows investigation we want to tell you about. what does it feel like to have the full force of the state running down on you. kathryn was one of the folks we talked to and investigated by four federal agencies all because of her political activities. >> reporter: the bureau of alcohol, tobacco and firearms shed up to a manufacturer to see if they were illegally making guns. >> we don't make them. jwhat were they looking for? >> they were looking for a way to scare us. >> news reporting they are enemies of the state. >> it looks like a great peace and fascinating and scary. thanks for joining us. fox news alert. the military shedingly more light behind the soldier in the deadly fort hood rampage. this is hq and i am bill hemmer. >> and i am sandra smith. the shooting at the base where a soldier murdered 13 people five years ago. >> reporter: we are learning more about the shooter but not the possible motive here. his name was ivan lopez and a native of puerto rico and joined the puerto rico national guard and did two overas