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jon: what a story. stunning new claims and subsequent denials as mystery an confusion to continue to surround the search for the missing jetliner with 239 souls on board. i'm jon scott. jenna: i'm jenna lee. another day and we're asking where is this jet? no sign of it so far. jon: no sign. jenna: naval forces from so many countries around the world with the presence in southeast asia searching for the boeing 777 that disappeared saturday. the search area widening again after malaysia admitted it is possible the plane continued flying longer than it officially thought. officials deny "the wall street journal" report this morning that the engines fed backdate at that to the manufacture you are for four hours after the plane vanished from radar. >> i would like to refer to news reports that, suggesting that the aircraft may have continued flying for some time after last can't. malaysian airlines will confirm shortly those reports are inaccurate. the last transmission from the aircraft was at 0107, which indicates everything was normal. jenna: the official goes on to make it clear the main search effort is still in the china sea but said the straits of malacca are a focus because the country is investigating every possibility. after unconfirmed military radar sightings indicated that the plane may have changed course. meantime malaysia's civil aviation chief says there is still no sign of the missing airliner. that plane sent to check out chinese satellite images of possible debris turning up nothing. david piper following all the breaking developments streaming live from bangkok. david? >> reporter: hi, jenna, two fresh leads to try to find this mane and as you said they didn't come to anything. hopes were raised earlier today when china released satellite photos which indicated they have may have found the plain's debris. air and sea search came up with nothing. malaysia's air 6 transport minister china said the publication of the satellite note es was a mistake and they don't show debris. he denied a report in the "wall street journal" that the plane flew on for four hours after its last known location. information sent automatically bitten begins to manufacture you are rolls-royce shows they kept run forge a considerable time f true it could mean the plane would be anywhere overa vast area. malaysia's transport minister told a news conference that report was, inaccurate. royals rolls-royce and boeing are helping them with their investigation in kuala lumpur. the malaysian airlines jet went missing early saturday morning. the last known location was above the south china sea above malaysia and vietnam. a distress signal was sent. ma lake shun authorities said the plane may have tried to turn back to malaysia and that is why they're still searching west of malaysia into the straits of malacca and the and today men sea. they understand the main focus, jenna is the south china sea. jenna: that till still remains one of our big stories today, david, thank you. jon: for more on the missing plane, let's bring in tom blank, former tsa deputy director. tom the story in "the wall street journal" was enough to make me spit out my could have fee this morning. lead line reads this, u.s. inspectors suggest malaysian airlines flight 370 stayed in the air four hours past the time it reached its confirmed location according to two people familiar with the details raising the possibility that the plane could have flown on for hundreds of miles under conditions that remain murky. what do you think about that? >> well, i think that is a pretty startling revelation if in fact it turns out to be true. here's one very important lesson we learned on 9/11. at all costs maintain the security and integrity of the cockpit. and whatever happens here, we're going to learn that there was some sort after cockpit breach and that means that we had pilots who were perhaps corrupted for one reason or another because transponders don't get turned off on their own. if there was a peaceful cockpit breach, by that i mean one without weapons or without an explosion that would indicate the involvement of the flight crew in helping a member, a passenger, with flight experience to take over that cockpit. and, almost assuredly, no matter what happens, we're going to find out that the cockpit was breached and someone with ill intent took that plane, either to a tragic end, or to a still unanswered mysterious outcome. jon: there is a photograph from a previous flight of the pilot of this particular plane who apparently casually let a couple of passengers into his cockpit. i mean that's a huge no-no in the united states. but on this particular, well, for this particular captain it was apparently something he has done before. >> well, that would very likely cost a u.s. pilot his license and would be a career-ending event. but you know, after 9/11, pilots are background checked. those background checks are routinely updated. the same goes for flight crews. and i think we'll find that many of the things we do in the u.s. with regard to checking lists of stolen passports, secure flight, which checks certain background and lists, are really the gold standard that the rest of the world is going to have to come up to because somehow this, with the cockpit breach of this sort, that should not have happened, and there are ways and steps that can be taken. proudly the u.s. has done many of those and u.s. flag carriers operating internationally adhere to these rules but we're going to find out that some, something happened in that cockpit that was sos not supposed to happen. jon: we have looked at the potential range of this jet with the fuel it had on board. it was destined for beijing. if it had diverted the other direction it could have flown as far as india or even pakistan. is it truly possible, i heard this theory this early days, it is sitting on the drown somewhere at some remote airport, you know, waiting for some other use down the road by a band of terrorists? >> if that is the case it is certainly a significant conspiracy because it would likely involve the air traffic control organizations of other countries. it would involve ground crew. you would have to figure out a way to keep the neighbors to that airport quiet and things like that. having said i think one of the things that has not yet been investigated is what cargo was aboard this aircraft. it is possible that there was some illicit cargo that somebody wanted to get from point a to point b for some nefarious reason. and so we haven't heard a lot about that, but manifests and whatever that plane was carrying in its belly beside passengers should become a part of this investigation. jon: usually the simplest explanation is the best. is the simplest explanation there was some kind of a giant malfunction that disabled the electrical system and that that plane just went down over the ocean someplace and we're just not looking in the right place? >> well, that would leave certain unanswered questions, which is, that transponder down turn itself off. there are redundant systems. so that should kept working there are other electronic radio waves system that is belong to the airline. that should have kept working. and you would expect that in the event of some major catastrophic malfunction that at least the pilots would be able to send some sort of a distress signal. unless there was instantaneous in-flight burst into flames for for some reason. you have to think if that happened debris would have been found by now or satellites would have captured some image that would point us in the right direction. jon: tom blank. thanks for talking to news nice to talk to you. jenna: meantime new developments in the crisis between ukraine and russia just days before a referendum deciding the fate of crimea. russia's foreign minister and secretary of state john kerry discussed possible solution during a phone call. this comes as russia continues military drills near the border with ukraine. the exercises include parachute drops as you can see and soldiers firing weapons. meantime the united nations addressing sunday's referendum to decide whether crimea stays as part of ukraine or rejoins russia. the u.n. security council in talks over a possible resolution supporting ukraine's sovereignty. russia is permanent member of that security council. so again some interesting twists and turns to this story. arizona senator john mccain is traveling to ukraine today. he flies out this evening. he will join us before he does in the second hour of "happening now." meantime we also have new testimony in the oscar pistorius murder trial. the famous double amputee runner is accused of premeditated murder in the death of his girlfriend, reva steenkamp. prosecutors say he killed her deliberately on valentines's day last year when he shot her through a bathroom door. he claims it was an accident bops he thought she was an intruder. he claims he put his pros at the time stick legs on before knocking down the door to reach her. an expert says evidence at the scene proves otherwise. >> that mark, did not appear to me to be a shoe print or a footprint of -- for a shoe or a foot, making that mark. that is why it was not compared with, with legs of mr. pistorius. i can also say when i received the prosthetic legs, the legs did not have the socks on it. jenna: fox news producer paul tilsley was in court and joins you by phone with what this all means today. paul? >> reporter: jenna, in addition in court today we were given a warning of testimony of the first policeman to come across the murder scene would be graphic. indeed photos taken immediately after oscar pistorius shot his girlfriend reeva steenkamp showed blood splattered walls and plenty of blood on the floors of "the blade runner"'s home but they were nothing like as graphic as the image of the body of reeva steenkamp after she had been shot in full close-up, which was flashed twice by mistake on some eight large screens around the court. this shocking photo sent the slain model's housemate's mother rushing from the court crying and caused pistorius to again appear to become ill. in front of me pushed his head almost between his legs and looked as if he was vomiting into a green bucket. later, the local police commander, colonel van rensberg the first cop on the scene said he saw reef reef reeva's body lying in the and asked pistorius to stand still. accompanied by a detective who by then had arrived he follow ad blood trail upstairs. in slow motion almost, 119 photos of this trail were shown in court and several very strange findings which so far haven't been come menned on. the window just outside of the bathroom where steenkamp was shot was found wide open, possibly giving a possible problem for the defense, who have been claiming sound could not carry to some neighbors. and there were signs of an attempt to force open the outer bedroom door. here's the thing, jenna, a bullet hole, not mentioned before, completely through this out of bedroom door, a long way from the bathroom, opening a whole new line of questions needing answers, jenna. jenna: wow, that is interesting. we'll talk to our lawyers about some of those developments paul, next hour. thank you so much. jon: a bombshell report reveals just how vulnerable america's power grid is to attack and how little it could take to cause a coast to coast blackout in this country. a deadly crash at a festival that draws thousands of people every year. a driver plows into a crowd as horrified witnesses looked on. >> i looked outside, a gray, subaru, '90s something subaru and rolled over some people and went all the way down. i remember seeing people bouncing off in the street, all the way rolling down past 10th. >> he was going so fast. a small car -- >> it happened so fast. >> i saw all these people, like flying. it was terrifying. ♪ ♪ [ male announcer ] help brazil reduce its overall reliance on foreign imports with the launch of theountry's largest petrochemical operation. ♪ when emerson takes up the challenge, "it's never been done before" simply becomes consider it solved. emerson. ♪ jon: a horrifying scene at the popular south by southwest festival in austin, texas. two people are dead, 23 injured, two of them in critical condition. place say a suspected drunk driver slammed into a crowd of festivalgoers. tens of thousands of attend that music, film and interactive conference every year. william la jeunesse is live with that story for us. william. >> reporter: well, jon, it happened so quickly, the victims had no chance to get out of way. one minute everyone is hanging outside a few clubs an bars having fun on a closed-off street listening to music. the next a speeding car, plows into the crowd, leaving two dead, several critical and the man responsible in jail. so just after midnight, last night, in downtown austin, police tried to pull over a suspected drunk driver. he hits the gas, breaks through the barricade going the wrong way on a one-way street. slamming into the crowd, outside the mohawk nightclub. >> there was a bunch of people standing in the street lined up for the show at mohawk. they ran over all the people. i turned around and saw like 20, 30 people flying up in the air, a police car coming behind them. >> reporter: now the driver tried to run. police nailed him with a stun gun. and while he is charged with two counts of murder, the city may also face a claim despite barricades. victims in a similar incident on the venice boardwalk filed a negligence claim saying los angeles failed to keep cars out after pedestrian-only area. 11 years ago a man plowed into the santa monica farmers market even though it too had barricades like those in austin. victims collected 21 million. the city has metal barricades to stop cars with a legal defense. clearly cities can't stop all accidents but a crime is a crime. it is possible that suspect will not only be one in court. police say he had a bac, blood-alcohol level above the legal limit. they may release his mug shot and identity in a news conference in 10 minutes. jon: if you get more information, get back to us. william la jeunesse, thanks. jenna: they called it the affordable care act. the president said premiums would cost as much as your cell phone every month but the cost of obamacare continues to rice. we'll look at the real cost coming up next. the tables turned for "judge judy", the lawsuit the famous judge filed against a connecticut lawyer. is this the bacon and cheese diet? this is the creamy chicken corn chowder. i mean, look at it. so indulgent. did i tell you i am on the... 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[ male announcer ] so indulgent, you'll never believe they're light. 100-calorie progresso light soups. jenna: one of the many issues plaguing obamacare today is sticker shock. some people stunned by how many premiums cost in both the federal and state exchanges. the president in that much publicized funny or die video says this. >> the truth is that they can get coverage, all for what it costs you to pay your cell phone bill. jenna: well "the daily caller" took a closer look at the price of plans and found the lowest tier of coverage on the washington, d.c. exchange, the so-called bronze plan, covers 60% of the medical costs and runs $124 a month. still 70% higher than the average cell phone bill they found. now kathleen sebelius, the health and human services secretary says it is going to get even more expensive. >> i think premiums are likely to go up but go up at a smaller pace than what we've seen since 2010. jenna: joining us now, jamie weinstein, senior editor of "the daily caller" and nina easton, senior editor and washington editor for the "fortune" magazine. we saw the example from a washington, d.c. exchange. we took a look at few other exchanges. is what you found is the premium higher than the average cell phone bill apply across the country. >> one much our reporters did a pretty good study of d.c. and pennsylvania in particular, those clearly were more expensive than your average cell phone bill. that applies other places. there may be other places that it is true. that is not a blanket example that the president is staying. what is more important, mackenzie did a study for people that wanted obamacare but didn't sign up, and number one answer by far it was not affordable. the idea this is the affordable care act. most people who are even interested in getting obamacare don't believe it to be so. jenna: nina, are we splitting hairs here? kaley caller article, middle of the road cell phone plan costs $90, $80, $70, around that. some of these premiums are expensive by 40 or $50 but you're getting health care not a cell phone. does the price fit. >> keep in mind when the president made that comment he was trying to appeal to young people, right? so if you have got a cell phone plan and you're paying 60 or $70 a month but health care is upwards of, you know, 180, close to $200 a month, that is a big difference for a young person and obviously it doesn't have the immediate satisfaction that a cell phone has. so the problem the administration is having is getting enough people, young people, ages 18 to 34, to sign up, to balance out the sicker, older population that is signing up. this administration wanted 40% of the, enrollees to be in that range, that age range and they have only got 25%. so what is the effect of that? it is possible premiums will go up to cover the added costs of having a sicker population. jenna: that brings up to a broader point, jamie. we have the cost to consumers every month, when we talk about premiums. we talk about health care costs in general as a nation. how much does it cost for you to actually go to the hospital and get care. overall what picture is emerging about where health care costs are going? >> well, they're going up. very high up. this was even before obamacare. of course with medicare, it is a massive government program where have trillions and trillions of dollars of unfunded liabilities. but the point of this bill, even if you're going to spend this money, the nation decides you want to spend this money on a bill to insure the uninsured, this bill is not doing that. the mckenzie study i mentioned before looked at how many people signed up for obamacare and actually paid their premiums which the administration is not giving us the number. through airtheir study, through their survey, those that signed up and paid the premiums, only 19% of those were previously uninsured. the rest were those who lost their insurance because of obamacare and had to find a different plan. if the goal of this, to spend all this money to insure a population that was uninsured, if that is the goal, that is not even meeting that standard. jenna: jamie brings up a good point, nina. we don't know how many people paid premiums and actually enrolled and started this process. so is the issue at the center of this, not seeing the mass enrollees that the administration was hoping for, is the issue at center of it really costs or something else. >> i think it's a combination of cost. obviously the study showed costs is keeping people from signing up, particularly people, by the way who have benefited from lower lower premiums in the past because they were healthier. keep in mind too that obamacare required a more generous package. so that raises the cost as well. but i think people are also have obviously been turned off to the obamacare because of well-publicized problems with the website and that is just tamped down a lot of the you know, well, kind of stopped any of the momentum they might have had going into this. i mean there were lots of people trying to get on it last fall and we're just seeing a trickle now. and as you mentioned, they're going to be well below their target figures come march 31st when the enrollment period end. >> that is what it appears at least at this time. we have a little bit over two weeks. we'll see what transpires over that time period. jamie, nina, great to see you both. >> thank you. >> thank you. jon: back to the missing malaysia plane. have searchers been looking in the wrong place for that jumbo jet? authorities are expanding the search area now after a series of false leads. why finding it is going to become ever more difficult. and is it a sign of things to come? the florida special election that could mean a tough election year for democrats. jenna: fox news alert. this after 11:30 east coast time on developments in the search for the missing plane in malaysia. with that country now dismissing reports that the plane flew on for hours and hours based on data from its engines but "the wall street journal" reports that u.s. counterterrorism officials are exploring the possibility that the pilot may have diverted plane to undisclosed location after turning off aircraft's transponder to avoid any sort of radar detection. this from local word in malasia, police visited home of one of the two pilots. malaysia also denying that report as well. a whole lot of denials today. we'll see what we actually known. chief intelligence correspondent catherine herridge is working the story from washington the. >> reporter: good morning, jenna. one urged caution with "wall street journal" reporting to fox news that the jet continued to fly for hours after the tran ponder went dark. that raised the prospect that the flight was taken over for a future plot. fox news confirming the faa and ntsb are analyzing three data streams that flow from the boeing 777. they include the transponder which when dark about an hour into the flight. the radar data which would still show the jet but with no identifying code which is emitted from the transponder and the so-called, a-card data which transmits data about the running condition of the aircraft for maintenance purposes and that is the data stream that "the wall street journal" is referring to. of the malaysian authorities saying that the data did not continue for hours as the journal reported. >> whenever there are new details they must be corroborated. today's media reports that boeing specifically about the data. as far as rolls-royce and boeing are concerned, those reports are inaccurate. >> reporter: while the dimensions much these objects seen in the chinese satellite images are consistent with the wing and tail dimensions of a 777, the malaysian authorities are also saying a surveillance aircraft went out this morning and could not locate the debris. now they say the chinese government is stating that the images were posted in error. these bizarre developments come as a recent warning from the faa about the boeing 777 and a potential weak spot are drawing new scrutiny. this is an airworthiness directive also known as an ad, it ordered checks on u.s. registered 777s after problems were reported near a satellite antenna. this ad reads in part, quote, we, the faa are issuing this ad to detect and correct cracking and corrosion shun in the fuselage skin which could lead to rapid decompression and loss of structural integrity of the airplane. that is of course one. principle areas investigators continue to look at, jenna. jenna: one we'll continue to look at as well. catherine, thank you. >> reporter: you're welcome. jon: a new sign 2014 could be a tough election year for democrats. republican david jolly winning a special election in florida after a campaign that hit his democrat opponent hard over obamacare even though she wasn't in congress to vote for it. many looking at the race as a sign of things to come in november. take a look at the current balance much power in the house. with jolly's win, democrats need to pick up 17 seats to gain control and in the senate, democrats currently have a 55-45 majority. republicans need to gain six seats to flip control there. while the gop is focusing on slamming obamacare, democrats are countering with positive anecdotes about the health care law and adding economic issues to their campaigns as well. they are throwing climate change into the mix. angela mcglowan, fox news political analyst is joining us now. looking ahead to the november elections. >> yes. jon: republicans, many of them, are saying that the david jolly election shows this is all about obamacare and that is the issue that republican candidates should focus on. do you agree? >> not just obamacare. ronald reagan in a farewell speech said man is not free unless government is limited. and jon, what we've seen is big brother government over the last obama administration, failing the american people. so i think, yes, it is obamacare but again, people want answers, and what we've had with this administration is a stagnant economy. we've had job loss. and with the democrats anecdote with obamacare and economic issues, not only climate change, they want to increase the minimum wage and expand unemployment benefits. that is just not going to work, jon. jon: but are those issues that will sort of distract voters? everybody might say to themselves, yeah, we ought to have a higher minimum wage. we ought to have, you know, better, more action on climate change. are they distractions from the issues, are they sufficient to distract people from the jobs and economy and maybe obamacare? >> only if republicans allow it to be a distraction. people are tired of blame game politics. people are tired of racial division and class warfare. again republicans have to have a solid message but, jon -- jon: with respect, angela, pardon the interruption, republicans are at the mercy of harry reid in the senate. when they did the all-nighter in the senate, climate change making headlines and so forth, republicans don't really have control over that. >> making headlines is not win elections. what republicans have to do is do grassroots and advocacy and talk about the failures of democrats. we just can't blame it on the democratic senate. we have to come up, conservatives have to create policies that will put people on the road to prosperity. by saying harry reid has the power by doing all-nighter in the senate, does not put money in the pockets of the american people. does not help people make their mortgages or pay their car notes. again, republicans have to have a solid message but they can not demonize this president. jon: sound like we'll not hear a lot about obamacare coming from the democratic side of the aisle. angela mcglowan. thank you. >> thank you, jon. jenna: very graphic evidence and testimony at the murder trial of oscar pistorius who is accused of killing his girl friend. the note photos that apparently sickened the athlete today, up next. a shocking report revealing devastating effects that a terror attack could have on our nation's power grid. what it would take to plunge the entire country into total darkness. 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(whistling) jon: some frightening new revelations about how vulnerable america's power grid is to an attack. the "wall street journal" reporting on findings by federal regulators that terrorists would only have to take out nine substations to cause a coast to coast blackout. steve centanni live in washington with more on that. steve? >> reporter: jon, yeah, "the wall street journal" revealing a government study that was well-known in official circles but not yet reported to the public. it shows that a coordinated attack on a handful of electrical facilities could have a devastating effect. if only nine of the nation's 55,000 transmissions substations were attacked in the right combination, the whole nation could go dark. now attention was focused on the danger when a substation near san jose, california was attacked by gunmen last year. 100 shots were fired and 17 transformers knocked out. many so feared it was a dress rehearsal for a larger attack. >> this was an unprecedented and sophisticated attack on a electric grid substation, using military-style weapons for the attack. communications were disrupted, the attack inflicted substantial damage. >> reporter: waxman and others say the government needs stronger authority to regulate and protect the nationwide power grid. but the federal energy regulatory agency says the danger is being addressed and that recent action has been taken to order mandatory security standards. and the agency blasted "the wall street journal report." the statement says in part the publication of sensitive material about the grid crosses the line from transparency to irresponsibility and gives those who would do us harm a road map to achieve malicious designs the american people deserve better. the journal did not however actually report the locations of the 31 electrical substations which could in various combinations lead to such a catastrophic failure of the grid, jon. jon: yeah, sometimes too much information is a bad thing. steve centanni, thanks. >> you bet. jenna: a new testimony in the oscar pistorius murder trial. the paralympic athlete is accused murdering his girlfriend last year. he claims he shot reeva steenkamp because he thought she was an intruder but prosecutors say he deliberately fired shots through a bathroom door in the middle after heat argument. today the court was warned that testimony would be graphic. they heard from the first policeman on the scene who testified about what he called a trail of blood that he followed. and some pictures were shown, some appearing to get pistorius sick and certainly upsetting some in the audience. keisha heaven and brian silber, criminal defense attorneys, join us now. brian, start with the pictures. some pictures were shown mistakenly of reeva steenkamp's dead body. do mistakes like that just happen. absolutely. trial is a variable environment. this is something i try to explain to every single client rep pent. -- represent. things go down in the real world not like a controlled environment. here is the good news. this trial is in front after judge. this is not in front of a jury. a judge has the experience, knowledge, wherewithal to discard these little flubs and give them the right amount of weight versus inappropriate amount of weight and that is the real issue. that is the fear when you have a jury trial, how a layperson will interpret something they shouldn't have seen. jenna: keisha, some of the evidence that could be presented or found was new information to us today. one of them when he came to the bathroom door and came to the bathroom where reeva steenkamp was shot, that the window inside the bathroom was wide open. and our producer inside the courtroom says this really opens up to questions about whether or not, if reeva steenkamp was screaming, the neighbors could have heard her scream or was she trying to escape? how damaging do you think that is, to know that the window was wide open? >> i think we have to look at different things as to what the temperature was where they were at this time but it can be damaging if i was the defense i would argue there's a possibility that, there was no intent for her to escape but there was just an issue whether the screams, it made the screams louder but i don't think it actually damages the defense at all. jenna: in addition to the window, brian, there were also some other things that we learned. that the outer bedroom door has a hole in it. they didn't say it was a bullet hole but they did say there is a hole in the outer bedroom door and there appears to be something with the door, that it may have seemed, that there was a struggle at the door, the door was forced open. now the door we're showing on the screen is the bathroom door. i don't want to confuse that it is the outer, outer bedroom door they're now talking about. what about that? >> look, here is the bottom line with this, every case has its main facts and then has its secondary and tertiary facts. these little quibbles back and forth about the window, about the door, they really distract from the real issue, that is the fact that he shot through this door claiming he was acting in self-defense. later on he claims he took a bat to the door to go help the girl but that makes no sense. why was the door otherwise inaccessible? those are the real issues in this case. because if that door was inaccessible without use of a bat, that means she barricaded herself in there or locked the door. if that is true, that supports the prosecution's theory. those are the two facts in this case that make sense and that matter most. jenna: what about that. >> brian, i disagree because who knows, maybe it was habit she locked the bathroom when she went to use it. >> oh, i don't buy that for one second. >> let me finish. >> anybody been in relationship knows better. >> if he intentionally went to kill her, why would he then try to get her out of the bathroom? why would he call 911 when he realized mistake? i think it goes more -- >> because he did it. that is lie. jenna: we don't know if he called 911. the neighbors apparently were one that is called emergency. there is some question about whether or not when his security team called whether or not he said, yeah, run over here. there has been an issue. apparently he did not say that, brian. so there is some inconsistencies with his story. at the same time to kisha's point there is some consistencies what he was saying. there was a fan outside. he went to check the fan. he heard a noise. decided to go over to the door. he had his gun. there are things consistent about his story and things inconsistent. >> the thing you have to keep in mind with any criminal trial is proof beyond a reasonable doubt. these little things, they still don't preclude this man is innocent. there is still a possibility that he was on his stump be when he hit the door. the window was open because it was still hot. there is still a chance of him being acquitted. >> brian. >> you mentioned the stumps, that is really interesting point, i find it hard to believe this man would counter an intruder who he claims feels is threatening his life to the point where he need to arm himself with a gun on his stumps. that makes no sense. not to mention the fact that it is prosecution's theory he tried to bash in the door before the shooting as part of the fight. whole story he is claiming afterwards doesn't hold water because it makes no sense. i don't know about you. jenna: hold on one second, brian. here is another thing we learned today. he had to walk past where reeva would be on the bed to go to the bathroom to check out the intruder. what about that detail and intent, going back to the issue of intent, whether or not he was intending to hill his girlfriend. >> i admit that is questionable. then i would assume -- >> big-time. >> but what if she was in another room or what he saw her get up prior to that and she went in another room prior to going into the bathroom? we don't know these things. that is why it is all based on circumstantial evidence here. jenna: brian, we'll have to leave it there. there is so much to this case. we'll have couple weeks to go. we'll have you both back. >> thank you. >> pleasure to be here. jon: there is this trouble overseas. russia announcing it started military exercises near the border with ukraine as an international standoff intensifies about crimea. senator john mccain is heading to ukraine today as part of a senate delegation. we will talk to him about what is going on there in the next hour. and, "judge judy", she is doing something she says she has never done before. jon: well "judge judy" is fighting her own court battle. she is suing a lawyer saying he used her image in ads for his firm, oh, but without her permission. julie banderas joins us with the 411 on that. >> this guy is lawyer. he should know better. the star of "judge judy" is laying down the law in her own courtroom battle and filed a lawsuit against connecticut personal injury lawyer john haymond and his firm. "judge judy," whose full name is judith scheindlin is seeking $75,000 for the hartford attorney using her image in advertisements without her permission. according to the lawsuit his firm aired ads in connecticut and massachusetts posted to haymond's law website and youtube channel not only used footage of "judge judy" and showed clips of haymond and his daughters. the suit claims amonday's objective was quote, to promote their business by pretending scheindlin, sponsored or endorsed or is associated with the services with this complaint. scheindlin seeks compensatory an punitive damages and injunctive relief and costs and attorneys fees. meantime "judge judy" is of course famous for her popular tv show which has been on the air for 18 years. we reached out to haymond office for comments. so far our calls have not been returned. haymond is report he had on vacation and not available for statement. judge jude city said in her 50 year legal career never filed a lawsuit but continues, quote, unauthorized use of my name, image and reputation by mr. john haymond is so outrageous i feel it requires this action. the young women of her honor mentoring program will benefit. she is not making any money here. she is making a point. jon: she is pretty wealthy woman. >> she says he should have known better. jon: thank you very much. jenna: racing through the streets marking the start after 10-day festival at a reknowned temple dedicated to hindu god krishna. it is believed the temple didn't have an elephant. someone ran there from another location to carry the god. the winner is not named until it make as full lap around the shrine of the of the temple. jon: that looks like fun. jenna: that looks like a good event. jon: in a couple much hours president obama plans to make a major announcement. we'll tell you how it could affect your paycheck and the broader economy. plus, rescues, rescue workers still sifting through smoking rubble the day after a deadly explosion took out two buildings in new york city. what investigators say triggered that blast. we have an update from the scene. 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is that possible, first of all? >> yes, it is possible. somebody can turn the transponder off, but you really can't turn off the engine recording system. it's broadcast either by satellite or over vhf radios. but it's really not readily accessible to the cockpit, and it's an entirely different circuit. so it is possible that it would keep running as long as the airplane was running. jon: so that's a system that bundles up information about the engines. the engines kind of monitor themselves. they say, okay, here's the air pressure up here, here's the air temperature. they bundle that information up, as i understand it, and every 30 minutes or so that bundle gets transmitted either to a sate lite or to the ground. -- satellite or to the ground. u.s. authorities are saying there's evidence that the engines were doing that for four hours after the transponder was turned off. how could that happen? >> well, if that is, in fact, true, then what we're looking at is either a terrorist act or a flight crew that's gone over the edge. so most likely a terrorist activity. they've taken the airplane. but where did they take it? it didn't go into the ocean to, apparently, because we haven't found the debris. did it make landfall and crash someplace in a remote area of thailand or vietnam? this is really a major mystery heightened by the information and disinformation and misinformation that we have been getting out of malaysia in the beginning. jon: yeah. >> very confusing situation. jon: well, it could have gone into the ocean, just not where they're looking for it. and, again, this new information that the plane could have flown on for another four hours after it was last reported, after its last transponder contact, there you see the circle of, you know, what a large area this plane could presidentially be in -- potentially be this, and there's an awful lot of ocean there. the pacific on the right, the indian on the left. if this plane did go on flying, it's a needle in a haystack in terms of trying to find it, isn't it? >> oh, it's even worse than a needle in a haystack. it's a needing in a -- needle in a, you know, huge country. but, you know, we have to -- jon: help us understand, because this is a 250-ton jet liner. this is a massive flying machine. but you put it out there in some spot in the pacific, it becomes incredibly tiny. >> oh, it's, i mean, 200 by -- 250 sweet square maybe, it's a little bit longer than that. not quite as wide. yes, it's insignificant when you put it into the ocean. it's going to be a difficult task to find it if, in fact, it is in the water. and having the antisubmarine aircraft dispatched to help listen for the sonar bleeps, for the pinger on the flight data recorder, that will help a lot pinpoint it down if we get lucky and it is pinging away. but there's just so much misinformation and so much that we don't know -- jon: right. >> and, you know, we can't lose sight of the fact that there's a timeline for everything. and although we're looking, it's reported that the ntsb and others are looking at this data that has come from rolls royce. rolls royce is not exactly saying this is the most accurate description of tear data. so -- of their data. so we have to match it up. every piece of the data that comes in has a clock. the clock is with the airplane, the clock is elsewhere. you have to match up those times. that's why the radar, when you get two or three different radar tracks, why it takes so long to figure it out? you first have to start match the time of the signals, and sometimes that's difficult. jon: right. and we should say that although some unnamed u.s. authorities are quoted in that "wall street journal" article as saying those engines were transmitting, the malaysian authorities say it wasn't happening. again, another conflict in the reporting we're getting here. john golia, formerly with the ntsb and a former airline mechanic, thank you. >> thank you for having me. jenna: as bizarre as this case is, 80 planes seemingly disappeared since 1948, that's according to the airuation safety network. some, of course, were found much later, others never found again. perhaps the most famous case is amelia earhart who disappeared in 1937 while attempting to three around the world. in 1972 a plane with 45 people aboard crash intoed the andes, the survivors struggling for days, later dramatized in the film, "alive. in 1990, a boeing 727 sent distressed messages in iceland before disacking, that plane was never found, and in 2007 millionaire adventurer steve fossett seemed to disappear in california. it took more than a year to find the wreckage and fossett's remains. jon: right now mixed messages on obamacare. health secretary or kathleen sebelius getting grilled on capitol hill. she admitted health insurance premiums will increase next year under obamacare. sebelius also says there will be no delay in the individual mandate. but new memos from the white house suggest otherwise to. chief congressional correspondent mike emanuel live from capitol hill with more on that. >> reporter: good afternoon. now to get a waiver from the president's health care law all you have to do is fill out a small form saying that your plan has been canceled, and the alternatives are too expensive. it's expected to have an impact on millions of americans, and today kathleen sebelius, back on the hot seat here on capitol hill, was asked why so many key components of the health care law have either been delayed or waived. >> has been discarded in 'ems of the law. -- in terms of the law. the law is still very much in place. what we are doing with some of the features of the law in terms of having a transition most focused on people who have insurance coming into compliance with some of the new features of plans to gradually phase those in over a period of time. >> reporter: some democratic allies an capitol hill say the president's health care law has been working and that congress should give up any notion of trying to get rid of it. >> americans do not want us to repeal the affordable care act. they want us to fix what is not working as well as intended and to move forward. >> reporter: much of the initial headaches for kathleen sebelius related to the health care law was related to the web site, healthcare.gov. and today a maryland republican went after sebelius about technical difficulties in his state. >> when did the department know about the failures in the maryland exchange? >> sir, we got regular updates on -- >> so the department knew, so the department knew that this was a failure? >> we did not know -- i, we knew it was not working properly. >> reporter: among the questions that have not been answered by her appearances both yesterday and today is how many of the 4.2 million americans who have signed up for the health care law have actually paid a premium. jon? jon: so that individual mandate, that's the thing that's going to cost you a fine if you don't sign up, and so far it's still on the books. >> reporter: well, that's right. she says it will be enforced, but bottom line, this new waiver seems to be a huge loophole where millions of americans could say, hey, my plan's gone away, and the alternatives are too expensive, so i don't have to sign up. jon: i see. mike emanuel, thank you. >> reporter: sure. ♪ ♪ jenna: some major developments on the crisis this the ukraine can. secretary of state john kerry telling a senate panel just moments ago there are, quote, contingencies in place in case russian forces move farther east into ukraine. and the united states and europe will take, quote, serious steps on monday if the referendum on crimea goes ahead. this as russia announceds the start of military exercises reportedly involving about 8500 troops and air artillery. but the new government in kiev says the buildup is much larger, and it's concerned about the possibility of a full-scale invasion. amy kellogg is streaming live in kiev, ukraine, with more. amy? >> reporter: well, jenna, what's foreboding about this is that the last time russia had military exercises, and that was at the beginning of the month, the next thing we knew they were actually putting their troops inside ukraine in crimea. this may be just muscle flexing, but we don't know. these exercises are going on now in the east of the country, and that's an area that so many worry could be the next to fall. putin is meeting with his top security chiefs today. meantime, in the eastern cities pro-russian activists gathered signatures for a petition asking russia to send troops many to protect them. people here in the ukraine will tell you there are lots of provocateurs trying to stir things up in eastern regions of ukraine, and it is not clear how much truth there is to these allegations and how much is exaggeration, but it is true that the propaganda pumped out by russian media warns of a takeover by fascists if russia doesn't step in to protect people in ukraine. finally, the government here has said that ukraine is not going to send troops to crimea, but there are concerns generally about ukraine's ability to defend itself. its army has not fought a war. it's got this self-defense force that sprang out of the revolution, but it's mishmash of young and old to, those with military training and those without. they say they're ready to fight if they have to. today parliament approved a national guard. they say that they should have 60,000 people together by the weekend. but there's a lot of concerns about how quickly this can all be put into place, jenna. and if, in fact, this new national guard will actually coordinate with the other groups, the army and the self-defense force that exist. it's just kind of concerning. in the meantime, as you mentioned, secretary of state john kerry did say there are contingency plans should russia try to prove even further into ukraine. certainly at point, we can't discount that that's a possibility. jenna? jenna: amy, thank you very much. one of the questions we have for senator mccain coming up is what are those contingency plans that secretary kerry is talking about? he just made those statements. we'll ask senator mccain what he thinks about them. he's leaving for ukraine later on today, so we'll ask him a little bit about what his goals are once he hits the ground there. jon: well, the death toll is rising in that horrific explosion we told you about in new york city yesterday. as crews continue to sift through the rubble looking for more victims, a live report from the scene just moments away. plus, what's wrong with this picture? this guy, obviously, does not have the equipment needed to breast-feed, but he's part of a campaign to promote the practice. a story behind this series of pictures. and president obama set to announce an expansion of overtime pay for millions of americans. what it means for business owners, the economy and for your bottom line. >> rumors about what the president may or may not do with regard to overtime pay and reclassifying some jobs for overtime. but if you don't have a job, you don't qualify for overtime. inusp and i've got this runny nose. i better take something. truth is, sudafed pe pressure and pain won't treat all of your symptoms. really? alka seltzer plus severe sinus fights your tough sinus symptoms plus your runny nose. oh what a relief it is jon: right now president obama getting set to make a big announcement in just a couple of hours. the expansion by executive order of overtime pay rules, possibly affecting millions of americans. this as he presses congress to raise the minimum wage for all workers. what does it mean for business owners and the economy? columnist for the washington times, is with us, ed o'keefe for "the washington post" as well. ed, you've written considerably on this particular issue. there cannot be a lot of appetite in congress for another presidential executive order that sort of bypasses congress, or is there at least on the democratic side? >> depends on who you ask, jon, that's right. essentially, what he's trying to do here is possibly raise the overtime limits to somewhere between about 550 and about $970 a week, arguing that inflation if it had been adjusted properly, the numbers would be closer to that. republicans, as you point out, rejecting this as just another example of the president using hiss pen and phone -- his pen and phone to bypass congress. but democrats say, look,s this is something that should be done. ideally are, it would be done through congress, but the president's taking action because federal law currently allows the labor department to set these minimums. president bush did it, president obama's trying to do it, but, of course, it comes as a part of that broader strategy of finding ways to take executive action and totally doing it without needing congress' approval. jon: charlie, what do you think of this tactic? >> most importantly, it's somewhat of an admission of failure, it's an admission that for millions of americans the economy is still terrible, so the president is trying to kind of dictate a better economy at least for some of them, as john boehner says, if you don't have a job, then getting overtime doesn't help a whole lot. but it is very reminisce sent, as you mentioned in the lead-in, to this whole issue of trying to raise the minimum wage and, actually, using his pen and his phone to raise the minimum wage for federal workers. but the important thing to remember is that, you know, four years ago at the beginning of his administration when presumably, according to the democrats, the economy was even worse, you know, democrats could have -- they had control of the congress, they had control of the white house. and for part of the time they had tilley buster-proof majority in the senate. and they could have done, they could have passed all of this in an afternoon, and they didn't do it. i suspect the reason that they're scrambling to do it now is because of, you know, what we saw in florida with the election earlier week. you know, we've got elections coming up in the fall, and democrats are getting very worried. jon: the overall idea here, ed, is that there are, you know, probably millions of people in this country sort of lower or middle managers who are not paid overtime because they are considered part of management, and the rules allow them under their job description to not be paid overtime. the president is simply saying, what, that's not fair? >> not only is it not fair, but because inflation has risen faster than these adjustments have been made, they should be brought up to speed with inflation overall. and so that's a big part of the push not only to do this overtime change, but also to increase the minimum wage. and as inflation rises, many democrats and some republicans argue that those levels should also be climbing, perhaps adjusted to the rate t of inflation. jon: so the president wants to bypass congress, charlie, to use his pen and his phone, apparently, to try to get something done that, what, he thinks will score political points? >> well, i think that's the big thing. you know, especially if you go back to the issue of minimum wage. most economists on, you know, across the spectrum will tell you raising the minimum wage is not going to help workers except for the few workers that it will actually apply to. for the or most part, it's going to, you know, it's going to cost job, and it's going to mean that especially young people who are first entering the work force are going to have a harder time finding their first jobs to begin their trek up the ladder. and i think that the same is probably true about, with this current issue that it's not going to -- it doesn't really help the economy in any great way. it's not going to encourage employers to hire people. it's going to do quite the opposite. but as you note, it basically is a way for democrats and president obama to sort of make this argument, and we're hearing it with obamacare, that, look, we're on the side of workers. we, you know, maybe we don't dooring right, maybe -- everything right, maybe there are problems with obamacare, but we're on your side. and for them that's the campaign issue that they want to take into the november elections. jon: well, republicans in congress not happy about it having passed this legislation that would allow them to sue the president who doesn't enforce laws. but that's a top you can for another time, another day. charlie hurt, ed o'keefe, thank you both. >> thanks, jon. >> thank you. jenna: russia ratcheting up tensions right now as thousands of its troops begin new military exercises near the ukrainian border. how the obama administration and western powers should respond. ads senator john mccain joins us live just moments from now. plus, the frantic search for victims in the rubble of two collapsed apartment buildings flattened by a suspected gas leak in new york city. >> my windows shook. i thought they had blew out. the pictures on the wall came off the wall. the explosion was a very large blast. >> we saw these boards, like, flying, saw the lady just hugged me to try to protect herself. 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jenna: sure. >> i think that vladimir putin now is deciding what to do in eastern ukraine, and i'm not sure he's decided. and i think that the best thing the congress of the united states could do is immediately pass this billion dollar loan guarantee and other penalties against russia as quickly as possible working with the president of the united states. jenna: i'm glad you brought that up, senator. if i could, because you have been critical of this administration as have many others more not doing enough, but what can congress do within its own power to pick sure that -- to make sure that a message is sent to russia about their actions in ukraine? >> first of all, the billion dollar loan guarantee. hair economy is on the verge of collapse -- their economy is on the verge of collapse. that's only a billion dollars -- when i say only, given the magnitude of their difficulties, that's only. but the fact is we immediate to send that signal immediately, without delay. we need to impose sanctions that only congress -- there are certain sanctions that the administration can propose, but there's others that we have to be involved in. announce that we are restoring missile defense capabilities in poland and the czech republic which the president canceled. say we're going to have, we are for georgia and moldova taken into nato. have military exercise or with the baltic countries that are now under threat of this same kind of action by vladimir putin and sanction every single one of these corrupt guys so that they can't enjoy london, they can't have financial dealings with the west. and there are others, by the way, amongst those. but it has to be a strong message, and i'm for working with the administration. but the reason why we're here is because the weakness and feckless foreign policy of obama. jenna: so getting back to the point of things that congress can only do and talking about the sanctions, there is that legislation out of the senate foreign relations committee. i know there's a similar willing in the house, but there are some differences. so the big concern here is time. how much time would it actually take to get these sanctions or the loan guarantees passed? what is realistic here, senator? >> first of all, i'm very disappointed that some are talking about holding it up, and i'm deeply disappointed about that. i'm hoping that we will understand the urgency of this situation. if we pass it through the senate, we could go to conference tonight -- jenna: and who's holding it up, senator? >> there are those who are objecting to the imf -- there's a reform measure for the imf that really is important to some but not of the importance of getting this legislation done. there's also some of the money for the loan guarantees is taking out of canceled programs in defense that is being used for it that some others are objecting to. but you can always find reasons to object to something. but if you ignore the absolute criticality of the united states of america weighing in on behalf of the ukrainian people even if it means some compromise, then you have your priorities badly skewed. jenna: you're speaking about fellow republicans in the house. have you made any efforts to have conversations with them, convince them otherwisesome. >> absolutely, i have. and i will continue to do some. and it isn't just republicans in the house. jenna: senator mccain, let me ask you about what secretary of state john kerry said moments ago testifying on the hill. he says there's contingencies in place in case russian forces move further east into ukraine, and he also mentioned some serious steps that could be taken on monday if, indeed, crimea -- the referendum for crimea to again join russia goes through. what contingency plans do you think he's talking about? >> i think he has other plans for military buildups and exercises, etc. i'd love to tell you there's a military option. there is not. but the strongest, most powerful nation in the world has many, many options, and there's no doubt about what that election is going to do on sunday. i predict you 80% -- you heard it here first -- 80% of the vote will be to, for crimea to join russia. and so the question is now is what does -- that's crimea. what does putin do in eastern ukraine? it would be a dramatic escalation, and i'm not sure he's made up his mind. and we have to send strong signals. not only us, but our european allies who i have serious doubts as to how serious they will be. jenna: let's talk about specifics just briefly. if you believe that's the conclusion on sunday, then what do you truly hope to achieve by traveling to ukraine today? >> well, first of all, they asked us to go there. second of all, we want to show support. third of all, we want to hear what they need, what do they need to preserve their integrity and their territory, and how can we best help them? but they feel, and i've heard from their leadership including their prime minister yesterday, they eagerly await our presence there because they know how important the united states is and their relationship with us. and we're pleased to go in a bipartisan fashion. jenna: i only have about 30 seconds here, senator, but briefly i wanted to touch on syria because we're up into three years of the crisis there. russia certainly has a role in propping up president assad. just briefly if you could for our viewers, you know, some have said crimea is lost. is syria also lost at this point? >> well, bashar assad is winning, and that is because russia and iran continue and 5,000 hezbollah have poured in and changed the battlefield equation. this is a colossal failure on the part of barack obama. it's a seminal moment heard through the the world when he said if they use chemical weapons, he would strike them and then didn't that sent a message of weakness everywhere in the world, and i promise you, you will see the consequences everywhere in the world, including asia. jenna: senator, thank you for your time. we look forward to talking to you after you return from ukraine. thank you so much. >> thank you. jenna: well, the wheels of justice moving quickly in a murder case. breaking developments in the case of a murdered australian baseball player in oklahoma. prosecutors say he was killed for the fun of it. plus, the search for a missing jet liner taking a dramatic new turn as a new report raises more questions than answers. we'll talk about it with new york's former homeland security director, up next. 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>> what i make of it is we need to get a statement from rolls royce, you know? what do they know and when did they know it. jon: they're the folks who built the engines. >> and we need a statement from boeing company, did they have any data? we need to, you know, not just get this whole array of information from different people and then denies. and we need to go back to the last information that i i think we know about it. i think we know, jon. you're a pilot, you probably know more about this than i do, but we need to go back there, and we need to be doing all kinds of things. we need to be calculating the drifts, you know? the tides, all that stuff. you may remember, jon, on twa flight 800 the slick was 10 miles wide the morning when first light came. and it was only a few days later we found pieces of the airplane down in cape may and as far up as nantucket. so, you know, we need to gets a sets out there that can hear the pinger, you know? we need to get u.s. navy assets and aviation and surface assets out there as soon as possible. jon: so you are presuming that this thing is in the water, is not on land somewhere at some hidden airport? >> i'm not assuming anything, jon. you know, if this afternoon we could see a representative from the rolls royce company, you know, tell us that information's actually factual. jon: yeah. >> then, you know, that goes a whole different way, you know? the first time i was interviewed on this subject a few days ago, you know, i put that as a possibility. you know, i had no idea how to rank these things, but it is a possibility someone took over the plane and flew it for some nefarious reasons in the future. but, which that information would suggest, but if it's not true or it is true, you know, we're just going around in circles. jon: here's -- well, you mentioned a circle. here's the interesting thing, this was the predicted range of the jetliner. that jet was supposed to fly up here to beijing. so this is considered the area in which it could have flown if, in fact, there was some kind of a hijacking. but every jet liner is supposed to fly with an additional 45 minutes at a minimum of fuel onboard just so that if they get to their eventual destination and the airport is socked in by horrible weather, they can divert to another airport. >> right. jon: so that plane would have had enough fuel to get into a much larger circle, should have at least, a circle that includes pakistan. is there any possibility, you know, that the plane could have diverted the way the malaysian government says it did here across the strait of malacca, underneath india and up into a place like pakistan? >> well, i think at this point, jon, you've got to have everything up there on the board. you know, you've got to think that that's a possibility. and unlike, you know, twa flight 800 where we were dealing with the united states government, united states assets, look at what we're dealing with there. malaysia -- [laughter] you know, india -- jon: the conflicting statements are maddening. >> yeah, it's maddening, and we don't know a whole lot. someone needs to be in charge. now, they may be, and they may -- someone may know for certain what the facts are regarding the rolls royce engines. but, you know, it's fine for us out here in the public. i feel bad for the victims of, you know, that are waiting in these airports. you know, i lived through that and had to deal with those poor people for days and weeks and months. that's what's a little bit confusing. but i don't think it's unexpected that this is chaotic, because these are chaotic situations. jon: you mentioned that someone needs to get a statement from rolls royce. the malaysia -- air malaysia refused to comment on this statement about the engines the still transmitting for a number of hours after the plane disappeared from transponder. boeing said we just need to accept back from the investigation. that's paraphrasing what the officials said. it sounds like there may be something to this report, at least to my reporter's ears, that those engines were still transmitting for a long time after the plane disappeared from transponders. >> yeah. well, we may not know that, but i hope the people conducting the investigation know the truth. jon: well, it is a 250-ton mystery with something like 239 souls at the center of it. jim calstrom, former head of homeland security for new york, thank you. >> thank you, jon. jenna: a lot more to that story. and we'll bring it to you as we learn more. in the meantime, a gruesome murder that has kept the nation rivetted. breaking developments in the case of a murdered australian baseball player in oklahoma who prosecutors say was killed just for fun. >> so, smarty pants, you said the last of the cold weather was gone for this year? 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[ male announcer ] so indulgent, you'll never believe they're light. 100-calorie progresso light soups. jenna: well, right now emergency crews are sifting through rubble searching for more victims in that deadly explosion in new york city. sceneth body recovered earlier -- a seventh body recovered early this morning. a gas be leak triggered the blast that leveled two buildings in harlem. laura ingle has more. >> reporter: as search teams continue the grim task at hand, investigators are also digging deep into the cause of yesterday's blast. now, a spokesperson with the national transportation safety board tells fox it's meeting with city officials today, getting status updates on the fires, the injuries, and the records of those two buildings. the ntsb, which is investigating because gas pipelines are considered a mode of transportation, will get more involved once emergency crews finish their search for more victims. >> i'd like to offer my sincere condolences for those families and friends who have been affected. by this disaster. our thoughts ask prayers are, indeed, with them. >> reporter: some areas federal investigators will be focusing on will be the pipeline itself, of course, and con ed to see how the utility company handled complaints of doors of gas. here's what the buildings looked like before they exploded and collapsed. many residents say they did complain about gas odor in the building before, but it's unclear in -- if any of them contacted con ed yesterday. reps say it is working with investigators and reports it responded within minutes of a call reporting the strong mel of gas yesterday. new york's mayor bill de blasio toured the scene and was briefed on a sinkhole near the site. a water main collapse is also being looked at as contributing cause to the explosion. as you mentioned, a seventh body was pulled from the rubble morning. three people have been identified, and there are still five residents unaccounted for. the associated press reporting that one of those is a missing 21-year-old father-to-bement his wife, who is six months pregnant, is now waiting for -- with her family for any news. jenna: laura, thank you. jon: right now an oklahoma judge ruling the two with teenagers charged with first-degree murder must face trial in the shooting death of an australian baseball player. patti ann brown has the latest on that. >> reporter: that's right, jon. last august police say a group of teenaged boys targeted and killed a man because they were bored. 22-year-old christopher lane was an australian baseball player. police say he was shot in the back while jog in duncan, oklahoma, and now a judge has ordered a 16-year-old and 18-year-old to stand trial on first-degree murder charges. a third teen, james francis edwards jr., is being charged with a lesser crime in exchange for his testimony against the other two. edwards testified at an earlier hearing that he was rolling marijuana cigarettes in the front passenger seat of a car when luna fired the fateful shot. they both believed the gun held blanks, but a sheriff's office dispatcher overheard jones saying, quote, tried to shoot others but we kept missing. jon: patti ann brown, thank you. jenna: tackling a topic often taboo for so many men. is that guy breast-feeding? i mean, is that -- i don't think it's possible. jon: what's going on there? [laughter] jenna: we'll explain the full story, next. ♪ ♪ i'm tony siraga and i'm training guys o leak a little, to guard tir manhood with depend shields and guards. the discreet protection that'just for guys. now, it's your turn. get my training tips at guardyourmanhood.com jenna: a father in tennessee raising awareness about breast-feeding. he launched the campaign last year after his wife gave birth to their lovel daughter, sophia, and when she had difficulty nursing, he learned how important it is that fathers are involved in the process. so now hector is photographing men in breast-feeding poses hoping to educate them and empower women. that's what he says. hector cruz is joining us now, he's the founder of project breast-feeding. this is surely eliciting a lot of strong opinions, hector. tell us about your story. how did you come up with this idea? >> well, thanks for having me on the show, jenna, i appreciate it. this idea really just kind of happened. it was spur of the moment. i think it was a process for me though. after my daughter was born, we went through ten and a half years of infertility, so when my daughter was born, i was excited. i wanted to be a part of every aspect of the pregnancy process. and so i made sure that i was at every appointment, and the only appointment that i wasn't allowed to go to was the breast-feeding support class. and so i tried my best to learn as much as i could on my own, and i found there just was no resources for me anywhere to go to. i just, i couldn't find them. and so i really kind of walked away with an attitude of it's none of my business, or it's just not something i need to worry about. and once my daughter was born and we had just so many issues, there was no lactation consultant at the hospital, i felt, that's when i really felt frustrated, confused and kind of helpless because i didn't know how to help my wife. so i did the next best thing i could, i reached out to social media, i went on facebook, and i went to a women's group that my wife was a part of and started asking for help. jenna: if i could, hector, we saw, we were just seeing -- our viewers are seeing pictures of your daughter, and she is absolutely beautiful, and she looks like she has quite a personality as well. i know she's only a couple months old, but she's star quality. so you go to this group, and you're learning about how to support your wife. and then you decide, okay, i'm going to have men posing like they're breast-feeding their children? [laughter] how did you get from point a to point b? >> well, i think really when the idea started was the first time we were going to head out of the house to go somewhere, you know? i'd gotten used to the whole idea of breast-feeding, i understood what my role was in that, so my wife was actually in panic attack mode. we see it all the time. i mean, women just being said really negative things when they're out nursing in public. so i sought out to make my community the most breast-feeding-friendly community that i could. that way my wife could go anywhere and never have to feel ashamed for breast-feeding my daughter. so i decided, well, we're a society that thrives on controversy. we're always looking for, you know, for something to kind of attach ourselves to. and i figured the only way that i was actually going to get fib's attention was to get dads -- anybody's attention was to get dads involved. the more dads i talked to that were on the same journey as i was, the same thing i kept hearing was, you know, if i could do this, i would do it to help my wife -- jenna: we're up against a commercial break, so i want to get this in really quick. >> okay. jenna: what is the one thing you think all men need to know about breast-feeding? >> is that they play a crucial and vital role. the more support and education we have when it comes to that, it's going to help our wives or our partners be more successful in that relationship. because when it's two a.m. in the morning and they're having issues, we're the only ones there, you know? we don't have doctors there, we don't have lactation consultants. we're the ones there, so the more we know, the better we can help. jenna: hector, i love it. i love the entire story, i love the campaign. i can't wait to see what you do next, and i know that our viewers are probably going to be reaching out to you, so i'll direct them to your web site. thank you so much for the time today, we appreciate it. >> appreciate it. thank you so much. jenna: and we'll be right back with more "happening now." ... ... ... ... ... ... ... ... check it out. i can't believe your mom has a mom cave! today i have new campbell's chuy spicy chicken quesadilla soup. she gives me chunky before every game. i'm very souperstitious. haha, that's a good one! haha! 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