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[ applause ] >> getting choked up? >> well sean you know what i found here over the last couple months in the last month and the last few weeks, is that people seem to be proud of their guy. they're happy. they're like you got to do this. i mean i -- it's really been in many ways overwhelming. you know what? my feet are firmly on the ground. and it's really -- humbling. it's a remarkable thing. >> we'll get into the story of the things you've done here in ohio. i know it's a simple, almost cliched question but an important one. why do you want to be the president? you thought about it a lot, why? >> we're here to serve. if we're not here to serve, i don't know what we're doing here. you know i've got the skills sean. i mean y was chairman of the budget committee when we balanced the committee. i was on the armed services committee. >> was that in the 1,800's? >> it seems like it's some sort of a fantasy movie. when i left washington we were running surpluses in the trillions. that's amazing. and then i was out for ten years, got a lot of good experience. running ohio this is a big time state. and this state was falling apart. loss of jobs, a rise in taxes, people just giving up. now, like we're back and we're strong. and we are -- if i could say, we are starting to roll here in ohio. i think the momentum is just great. >> i want to talk about the economy -- >> let me just tell you, the country needs to be united again. we need to lift people. it's one of the things -- i've always kind of done but done more explicitly here in the state. of course, we need economic growth. without economic growth you've got nothing. once you have it it's not an end to itself it's a mean to an end. in ohio there's been two things that's allowed me to be successful. a great team economic growth and the sense that's everybody's included. if you're poor disabled drug addicted. we want everyone to rise. that's where this country needs to go. it will make us great again. >> let's go over the numbers. you have a good record. $5 million in tax cuts. you got rid of the death tax. my accountant said whatever you do don't die in new york. i said i'll try. you cut more in the latest budget. unemployment when you took office was 9.2%. it's 5.2%. 360,000 new jobs. that's a significant record. here's the question -- >> and it diversified state. people think of us as steel and alt ing a ruculture. financial services we've diversified ohio. if one parts going down the other parts can pick us up. that's a big deal here. >> the next president of the united states, i know you did work to balance the budget. you became the youngest head of the budget committee at 42. you brought us to a balanced budget. you used to do your own budgets, nobody payed attention to. you would inherit billions in debt. 93 -- listen to the numbers, 93 million americans out of the labor force, 50 million americans in poverty. 46 million americans on food stamps. that seems to me to be beyond daunting. >> you know sean -- >> you don't think those numbers are daunting? >> i mean, you have to deal with them. they don't intimidate me. this state in some ways was in that kind of a bad financial situation. i ran for governor i figure if i get elected there's nowhere to go but up. the same is true for america. what you do is you reengineer things. you make things work better. the minute you start getting on a real road to a balanced budget you're going to see economic growth take off. of course we've got to make sure our businesses are investing in plant equipment. so workers can have more. productivity so they can have higher wages. >> you believe you can balance a budget? >> no doubt you believe. >> you believe you can get americans back in jobs and how do you do it? >> making sure that education is a lifetime experience. so that workers continue to get trained. that's one of the things that we are doing and need to improve in our state. to give people the skills -- how about another thing, how about having an education system that allows people to focus on their passions to get them excited about learning. we don't do that. we've got this egrarrian model and stuff them in the classroom. it's the 21st century. it's daunting but i'm not overwhelmed by it. i've been there. i was there when i was 30 years old deal ing with the pentagon. i was there at 36 years old fighting to balance the budget all alone. we got there. think about this when i left washington, we had a $5 trillion surplus. the economy was booming. and we cut the taxes on risk taking and investment. same thing you got to do you do there. the experience here remember in my speech today i talked about experience i talked about the record. i tell you what else i talked about, testing. you have to be tested. when you're governor of a place like ohio you're tested all the time. and you get the metal to take things on. >> let me ask you, in the lead up to this, a lot of articles was written, is john kasich conservative enough. you were quoted as saying your republican party is waging a war on the poor. when you accepted medicaid expansion, you went out there and talked about st. peter at the pearly gates will not ask me if i decrease the size of government but whether i helped the poor. do you really believe republicans are waging war on -- >> no. look you know i don't know where that came from. here's what i will tell you -- >> "the new york times." >> okay. well it must be true. okay. >> how dare i quote a new york paper. >> you are man of faith. >> i am. >> if you pick up like psalm 41 the first couple lines are is about what you'll be remembered for what you do for the poor. that doesn't mean you throw thinks at people and that's the end of it. you help them get out of the ditch and hold them accountable. we've got a massive welfare reform program going on. by the way, did you know that i was involved in welfare reform in washington the first time? >> the end of wale fare as we know it. >> i was very involved in it all. here what i try to say, though is you can't allow people to be stuck in a ditch. you got to help them to get out. now, somebody asked whether i'm conservative or not. i've got the biggest amount of tax cuts in the country. i never voted for a tax increase. i was involved in balancing the budget. we fixed the pentagon in many ways to make it more efficient and effective. i come into office here. we're creating jobs and cutting taxes, our credit is strong. at the same time we can help people. now, our medicaid program, by the way. >> what's your surplus now. >> it's like the best growth rate in the country. >> wha is . >> maybe they shouldn't have gotten all worked up about that. but i'm not trying to question anybody else's motivation frankly. but here is what i do believe, sean. we brought our money back to ohio 14 million. and secondly when you treat the drug addicted and get them on their feet you save $22,5,000 a year. they're in prison. i'd rather them be working. we're having great success with that. mentally ill, disgraceful what we have done with the mentally ill. we put you in prison? no we're not going to do that at a cost of $22,500. or if you're the working poor and you don't have health insurance, guess where you go? the emergency room and then everybody pays. you know ronald reagan expanded medicaid two or three times. and he didn't need obamacare to do it. >> but obamacare mentions medicaid some 300 or 400 times in his legislation. a lot of other republicans didn't accept it. >> you know that many of them now are tiptoeing into the water. so many of them. they're trying to get in there and they still want to repeal it. oh i want to repeal obamacare absolutely. [ cheering ] medicaid medicaid has to be sent back to the state and empower the states to deal with their poor. and i can tell you all the governors will tell you that if you give me my money back with fewer strings and let me be creative i'll take that deal. and i think that's what we need to do. we need to empower people at the local level, not just with medicaid, but with education. so many different things. >> can we reduce the size and government and reduce government impact into everybody's daily life. in other words, i don't think there is anybody in this crowd that doesn't feel that they are overtaxed, that their hard work is being punished almost rather than being rewarded by government that government does take care spending their hard-earned dollars. do you have a plan? >> sean we have almost $4.9 billion worth of tax cuts. i don't think there is another governor that comes close to that. and we are balanced and we're running a surplus, and we're up with job creation and people working. i mean, so what -- >> look, if you were -- >> i'm not a liberal here. >> no, sean. let's say this. let's say you are a martian and the fearless leader says go take a snapshot of america. you know where you would fly? ohio. because what happens here happens in america. >> and you're going to fly ohio's success nationally. but on a much bigger scale. >> i was chairman of the budget committee in washington. and we balanced the budget. >> okay. we have to take a break. we're just getting things started with governor john kasich as we continue from the ohio state university. [ cheering ] your questions on twitter. we'll get to those questions on twitter. >> i'm going take what we have learned here in the heartland a band of brothers and sisters i work with every day, and we are going to take the lessons of the heartland and straighten out washington, d.c. and fix our budget. i brought in some protein to get us moving. i'm new ensure active high protein. i help you recharge with nutritious energy and strength. i'll take that. yeeeeeah! new ensure active high protein. 16 grams of protein and 23 vitamins and minerals. ensure. take life in. expected wait time: 55 minutes. vo: in the nation, we know how it feels when you aren't treated like a priority. we'll take care of it. we put members first. join the nation. thank you. ♪ nationwide is on your side ♪ live from america's news headquarters i'm robert gray. congress looking to change immigration laws following the random shooting death of a san francisco woman. the father of kathryn steinle testified before lawmakers tuesday. he wants laws changed since the suspected gunman a convicted felon was not deported following his last prison stint. some lawmakers now want to stop funding for so-called sanctuary cities that shield immigrants from deportation. authorities releasing a video showing the arrest of a texas woman who was later found dead in her jail cell. it shows the routine traffic stop escalating into a confrontation. the family of 28-year-old sandra bland dispute authorities' claims that she hanged herself. the trooper has been placed on administrative leave, and the jail acknowledges that it violated inmate monitoring rules. i'm robert gray. now back to "hannity." job creation? you balance the books. and if i'm president or maybe i should say when i ampresident, i will promise you that my top priority will get this country on a path to fiscal independence strength and we will rebuild the economy of this country because creating jobs is our highest moral purpose. we will move to get that done. that was ohio state governor john kasich earlier today when he announced he is now running for president of the united states. he is with us for a cable exclusive interview. [ applause ] i don't want to spend a lot more time on it. you have a great model a paradigm you have created of success in ohio. does it include spending cuts does it include means testing social security? does it include the penny plan? does it include, you know -- tell me you know what you envision. >> first of all, there's a sense -- there's a lot of dead wood in washington. there are programs that can go. the commerce department some of its functions are valuable but it ought to be closed down because it's an addict for political junkies. somebody goes to work on a campaign their kid goes to work in the commerce department. you don'tven have to slash, you have to inovate and make things work better at aprice. a lot of those programs need to be shipped out of that town. i'll give you an example. k-12 education, there's 100 separate programs that come out of washington. think about all the bureaucracy that is connected to 100 separate programs. just send the programs empower the states to run their own education system. >> let me slow you down. would that mean writing a check to the states and the federal government getting out of the education -- >> it means we should run k-12 education -- >> we don't need an education department? >> i'm saying to you first things first, let's end a bunch of those programs and send it to the states and hold them accountable for what they do with them. all the strings drives up the cost of everything. i give you another example. we tax ourselves at the gas pump. everybody wants better infrastructure. i had a plan in '98 to do this. they scrape money off and send it back with more strings. why don't we send pennies and let the states keep the money and improve their own infrastructure. here's what you've got to real iz ize. when we did the balanced budget we know what got done and we know what didn't get done. so we have a pretty interesting road map as to how you move forward. it's not a theory. everybody runs for president, they make promises nobody ever keeps them. because they make promises they don't know what they're talking about. if you know what you're talking about -- >> i'm a conservative registered conservative. i'm angry at republican. they don't seem to have a backbone in washington. do you agree or disagree? fair or not fair? >> they blew the surplus. republicans blew the surplus. >> they didn't keep their promise or use their constitutional authority on obamacare. they funded -- >> i'm talking about when i left there was a $5 trillion surplus. >> they squandered it. >> they blew it all. we could have used that to save social security. we could have used it to create accounts for young people. >> shouldn't they have used the power of the purse which is their constitutional authority to defund obamacare? didn't it show a little bit of timidity on their part that they didn't? >> look people -- i was there when politicians went and they didn't care about reelection. we're at a time now where we don'tven the have the kind of leaders. >> you're not like that. >> no. i tell you as governor y told my legislatures okay we're not going to go backwards on our financial condition here. if you send me a bunch of stuff that's going to put us back in the hole i'm going to veto every bit of it. guess what? the leaders came through. and we had more tax cuts we are balanced we dumped more money into our surplus account. i mean a leader has to stand strong. and try to be fair about it all. >> let me ask you a question about you the person. you like that? okay. [ applause ] >> sean you got to understand something -- i want to say this one thing. >> i am the host he takes over the show. i love you. >> listen, sean, i have never been in this business of politics just to get elected. i'm in this business of politics to bring change. >> that's what i want to ask you. i want to talk about you often -- i remember when i first met you, you told me -- we were talking about our parents and civil servants both my parents were civil servants. your dad was a mailman. you lost your parents in a car accident by a drunk driver. >> yeah. >> how did that change you? how does that impact your thinking? >> the biggest change sean was when i was a little boy, i kind of always felt the presence of god. i kind of felt him when i would go to church. and then like you know most other kids, you know i kind of -- god became a rabbit's foot press it when i want a good great. i'm going to get elected. grab this foot come on god. >> can i borrow yours? >> when my parents died it was the hardest time in my life for our whole family. and a man came to me and he said where are you vis-a-vis the lord. i didn't answer the question very well. he said you have a window of opportunity through your pain to discover it. i spent 28 years of my life figuring out does god exist, does he care about me can i talk to him? faith to me is about the dues. it's -- look he's given -- >> can you use the rabbit's foot to make sure hillary doesn't get elected? >> you know some people have criticized -- >> it changed you. >> it was -- >> in fact in speeches you talk about the pearly gates, you talk about matthew and peter. >> over time it's -- look when you talk about that you know y kind of like the pope. kind of i do like the pope. i think he's wrong on economics. who am i to tell the pope he's wrong. it is the free market system. free enterprise that has saved more people from poverty than any other system in the world. and that's what we have to support. >> and no republican has ever won the presidency without the buckeye state. never happened. [ applause ] >> i tell you what. if you come to this state as a divider, you will lose. you know i won some -- >> 86 out of 88 counties. >> i got 26%. i didn't have the strongest opponent but they couldn't find anybody, really. so you know the idea of -- >> that was his one donald trump moment. >> sean sean one of the great men albert ratner is a lifelong democrat. do you know what he told people? we raised a lot of money one night. he said the good news you raised a lot of money, the bad news is kasich will never do a thing for you. because you are -- when i tell people i want to be a ceo. if you elect me i'm the ceo. and i just got to do my job. >> i got to take a break. we'll pick it up from there. we'll ask governor kasich what he thinks about hillary clinton and his republican rivals. governor kasich will answer some of the questions you've been sending us on social media, twitter and facebook as we continue from the ohio state. there are some that's going to try to divide us. we see had all the time. i don't pay any attention to that kind of nonsense. at the end of the day, it's about being together. you know it says we the people. the kids are asleep. look what i got. oh my froot loops! 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>> i said months ago, about a year ago i called senator mccain and john boehner and said we need to support the opposition in syria because assad has to go. i also said we need to get a coalition -- we have to rebuild our alliances. we need a coalition and we need to defeat and degrade and destroy isis. >> wait a minute does that mean maybe boots on the ground? >> i said that. let's get not just us but a group together including some people that share our views in the middle east the jordanians. >> the egyptians saudis. >> absolutely. when it comes to putin, i don't understand why we are not giving the opposition in ukraine the weapons they need to defend themselves. you know the history of ukraine has been terrible. we need to allow them to fight for themselves. i don't understand why we're not doing it. the deal with iran you know they're not only to get a nuclear weapon but they'll get cash to support the hamass and hezbollahs. it's a bad agreement. and over in asia -- i don't know where we're going to be. i hope the senate will have a profound impact. >> i don't think so. >> we'll see. if it's a bad deal we absolutely will have to do what's in the best interest in the united states of america. not in the best interest of the united nations. >> iran could never get a bomb and you would do whatever is necessary to prevent it. >> i can't promise that. what are we going to do go to waer? we have to see what it's about. >> you be the host. >> what if we don't have the capability to wipe it out? what i would do i would reassert the sanctions and drive them as far down as i could until they changed their behavior. you don't take anything off the table. i won't take anything off the table. but i'm not going to come on the show try to say the right thing and get everybody -- >> i want your opinion. that's why i'm asking. >> my opinion is this is a very bad deal. i hope it falls apart. i think they fell in love with this deal. secondly i would have kept the sanctions on. if i became the president of the united states which i think i have a very good chance of doing, if their behavior has not dramatically changed i'd try to slap the sanctions back on. we'll have to rebuild our relationships with our allies. >> how do you analyze a president that can't acknowledge radical islamic terrorism? >> well look they also said in that administration we should lead from behind. i don't know how you lead from behind. we need to lead in the world. because our allies -- as much as they'll crab about the united states they need us and they all know it. china, i don't know why we didn't put a carrier group through the south china sea and deliver a message to the chinese. you don't own this what are you kidding me? 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>> well first of all what we want for people to have one person managing them so they can go out and get a job. we want businesses in the welfare office to train people for jobs that exist. >> karen writes would you agree to revoking pass ports to those people who have terrorist ties? >> i think that is probably a very very good idea. i can't understand when they come back they become radicalized. how do they get back in? part of the federal government not working. >> immigration is a huge issue. you supported a pathway to citizenship. >> i won't take it off the table. >> first, use modern technology. drones and sensors. then have a guest worker program so people can come work leave. our program is too narrow. 12 million here find out who they are. they're going to have to pay a penalty for having jumped the fence. but at the same time if they've committed crimes they've got to be deported and put in jail. if anyone has been sneaking in recently, they need to be sent back. but we've got to fix this. and political debates, and nonsense, just get it fixed. and reagan did amnesty. >> he regretted it. >> did he tell you that? >> yes. he did. >> okay. >> i don't like we've got to control the border. >> you're pro life. >> yes. i am. >> you're against marijuana legalization. >> yes. >> you did support the assault weapons ban. you had a second amendment guy. you know? >> got an f rating that year. >> last year. >> you got an a. >> yes. >> thank you. >> do you regret the assault weapons ban? . >> i don't regret that i learned you can put that law in but it isn't going to have impact so why pass law that's aren't going to have impact? >> i'm a second amendment guy, too. but guns cosmetic. >> it's a second amendment people, you know believe in it. it's about freedom. it's about independence. it's about a lot of things. >> citizens should be allowed to carry a weapon? >> yes. i've signed bills like that yes. >> when we come back more with governor john kasich, straight ahead. to folks out there whose diabetic nerve pain... shoots and burns its way into your day, i hear you. to everyone with this pain that makes ordinary tasks extraordinarily painful, i hear you. make sure your doctor hears you too! i hear you because i was there when my dad suffered with diabetic nerve pain. if you have diabetes and burning, shooting pain in your feet or hands, don't suffer in silence! step on up and ask your doctor about diabetic nerve pain. tell 'em cedric sent you. when you travel, we help you make all kinds of connections. connections you almost miss. and ones you never thought you'd make. we help connect where you are. to places you never thought you'd go. this, is why we travel. and why we continue to create new technology to connect you to the people and places that matter. we live in a world of mobile technology, but it is not the device that is mobile it is you. next. ♪♪ expected wait time: 55 minutes. your call is important to us. thank you for your patience. waiter! vo: in the nation, we know how it feels when you aren't treated like a priority. we do things differently. we'll take care of it. vo: we put members first... join the nation. thank you. ♪ nationwide is on your side ♪ that detergent was like half the price! and we'll have to use like double! maybe more! i'm going back to the store? 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