only kept us off the air for 3 minutes. we will send you the bill. >> greta: the second time. the first time was us, too. >> the only two times. >> greta: next time i promise that we won't do it. 2012 election. what do you think is the most important issue to conservative americans? >> obama. everything obama. that is the most important issue to conservative americans. i don't -- i don't know how you separate obama from his policy. obama is his policies. obama is the problem. obama has a vision of this country that is not held by anywhere near a majority of people do you realize barack obama had run for office in 2008 campaigning on what he has done he wouldn't have got 30% of the vote, if that which is commensurate with the way that i think how liberals have to run. they have to lie and mischaracterize who they are and what they are and what they want to do and what they stand for. they are a minority in this country. they are a minority of thought but they are not perceived that way. they have the mainstream media with them and the perception is they are much larger bloc than they are. the one thing about obama would be obama care. that sums up i think everything that is disasterrous, dangerous, destructive, about barack obama. if that healthcare bill is not repealed, the conditionry is going to change forever in ways that people cannot possibly imagine. it is going to be a massive loss of individual liberty and freedom. and once the government has control of healthcare and the costs involved, then they can dictate every aspect of the way you live based on saving money, whether or not you going to be treated based on your age, whether somebody thinks it is worth it to save you if you have some sort of a bad disease. it is just bad all the way around. i -- the people ask me do you really think these things that you say about obama? do i. from the bottom of my heart. if f. you will recall january 16 before obama was inaugural rated i was asked to write a piece for the "wall street journal" 400 words on what i hope for the president. i remember at that time everybody was awash in the glow of the first black president all the historical aspects of it and that didn't matter to me. once he was elected, cool, fine, great achievement. his policies matter to me. what he is going to do. i told the "wall street journal" it won't take 400 words i can do it in four. i hope he fails. what i meant by that was i hope that everything he wants to do policy wise fails. he hasn't failed. he has succeeded beyond his wildest dreams. i'm sure this national single payor healthcare which is where this is headed if it happens. huge, huge achievement. the green energy stuff. i mean that is all a hoax and a fraud based on another hoax and fraud global warming. and i -- you know, i do get interested in motivation. why politicians do things they do and what motivates a lot of people don't care to get involved with that. i do. because i think it is a track that can give you an idea of where they are going in the future if you understand what it is that motivates them and i have often always suspected that obama has a chip on his shoulder that he doesn't think of the country as great and exceptional. he thinks of it as criminal in many ways, as guilty in many ways. he thinks that our super power status was the result of theft of resources and ideas from other nations all over the world and believes the multicultural garbage that we came here and kicked the indians off the land and brought with issues racism and sexism and homophobia and all that and i think president obama wants the country to find out what it is like to live the way what he thinks we have forced other people around the world to live. he said it in kansas. he basically said that the way this country founded has never worked. the way he characterized it was even to me offensive that everybody out fending for themselves. self-interest has fed more people than charity ever has. self-interest, everybody trying to do the best for themselves. not selfishness but self-interest raises everybody up. it offends him. he says it has never worked. he said 230, 240 years, whatever america has never worked. the rich are the problem. who believes that the rich are the reason we have got an economic mess? he does or he wants people to believe it. it is offensive. it is outrageous. and i don't relish the thought of four more years of this. >> greta: is he in your mind a bad guy or is it different ideology? [ laughter ] one and the same. what do you mean by bad guy. in it could be a little loaded. >> greta: i guess i mean an intentional motive to hurt the country versus his ideology is one that the whey to achieve ideals is different values. >> this is the question. we are living under a number of assumptions about obama that have been presented to us by elites of both parties. one of the i will luke illusioa is brilliant. smarter than anybody in the room. we have never had a politician like this in our midst we are told in 2007 and 2008. the world was going love us again, going to lower the sea levels. i mean ridiculous stuff. so the question is, is he just dumb? does he really believe this economic stuff? does he really believe that taking capital money out of the private sector and transferring it to government and unions is the way you grow the private sector? is that the way -- does he really believe that? is he that ill educated? is he the product of nothing other than the american education system and whoever influenced him at home when was young? or is he an idealog, is he a marquesist socialist who has an agenda oriented towards cutting the country down to size. the question for me the answer to the question is irrelevant. whatever he is doing, why he is doing it, it is obvious he is doing it. he is taking steps and had policies that are injurious to the country. injurious to individuals. targeting as the enemy the people who work in this country. targeting as the enemy the people who pay taxes. this business of occupy wall street crowd which is his was created i think on the basis that romney was going to be the republican nominee, romney is wall street so you have obama's band out there occupy wall street set up to oppose romney. wall street blamed for all of the ills in the economy like the sub prime mortgage problem. the sub prime mortgage problem which is the root of the economic disaster we are in was strictly created by government. it was a plan designed as barney frank had said affordable housing. put people in homes who couldn't afford them. loan the money knowing they can't pay it back. bill clinton started it and jimmy carter and janet reno and anand and andrew como. they come up with creative ways to make it something of value by creating mortgage backed securities this they sen sell to an unsuspecting bunch of dupes down the line. the whole thing blew up and that is where we are. wall street had nothing to do with it. they are a convenient enemy. obama likes to talk about wall street tricked people into coming in and getting these -- wall street didn't trick anybody. they were told. they were ordered by the government to make the loans in fairness, stop redlining against minorities and so forth. it was liberalism on parade. liberalism has given us every problem that we are facing in this country today. without exception. whether liberals are dumb and stupid and ill educated or whether this is purple, too late now to draw the distinction. it is happening and they are doubling down on it. three years and every policy to create jobs hasn't worked. there are 2.5 million fewer jobs in america than they were immackulated. immostly the universe has shrunk. two people have said this. old financial times guy. james at reuters. if the same number of jobs existed when obama was inaugural rated today as in 2008 then the real unemployment rate would be 11%. it is a disaster. and there has been plenty of time to realize it doesn't work and to change course. he hasn't done that. to me, patently obvious he is not going to do it because he doesn't believe it n. it. what is hap i thin happening ie enjoys. >> greta: do you think he will get reelected? >> if the election were are today no. he would lose in a landslide. i don't believe the conventional wisdom that the republicans only have one person that can beat him. i don't believe the conventional wisdom that his dwarf anyllars can where of campaign. american people are hurting. obama can't run on his record. he can't say vote for me for the last four years. all obama can do is run a negative campaign and tear apart his opponent in the process. these two guys that appear on your network a lot wrote a piece begging him to get out. make way for hillary. they said his only chance is to run such a scorched earth campaign even if he wins he has torn the country apart in the process or divided it worse than it has been in decades not worth the price that his reelection would -- and he odd haven't a mandate to do anything after he wins. i think he is imminently defeatable. i don't believe the inside of the beltway conventional wisdom about elections pretty much in any regard. >> greta: you mentioned hillary clinton. would she have been a different president? >> not idea logically. i think she would have south pretty much the same thing. i don't know whether she would have succeeded in getting healthcare passed. they were this close to deeming healthcare passed without voting on it. that close to deeming it because they really didn't have the votes for it even with their own party. there was so much fanagling going on to get healthcare passd that whether hillary could have gotten it done or not. she is a designle of the same community organizer and agitator that inspired obama. to me it would have been six of one and a half dozen of the other. >> greta: has either one of them done anything that has impressed you? >> i get this question all the time. i -- has obama done anything to impress me. >> i like the number of vacations he takes. i wish i could take that many. he has played ten times the rounds of golf that i have played this year. but i'm not -- the root of that question is, is there anything nice, they may be perfectly nice people, greta. i'm strictly oriented toward policy and in the area of policy there is -- i guess obama was honest last december when acknowledged he had to extend the bush tax cuts. remember during a lame duck session of congress. and if you go back and listen to what obama was saying a year ago, last december versus this, two different people. last year we couldn't end the bush tax cuts because that would mean a huge tax increase hp on the middle class. wait a minute. up until then the democrats and obama said no, no, no, the bush tax cuts were for the rich only. the bush tax rate reductions were across-the-board for everybody. and obama did not want to get rid of those last year because he did not want people with less money in their less pocket via tax increase in his reelection year. but that irritated his base so now he had to promise from january on through this year to get rid of it. the bush tax cuts are now the big enemy. get rid of them and raise taxes on the rich. totally disingenuous but he was honest when talked about the bush tax cuts. >> greta: he has a warning for republicans. what does he say could come ♪ [ male announcer ] remember when you were a kid? you ked getting 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primary voters he can't crack 30%. it has been curious. you look at it from the rehe verse. 70% of republican voters want somebody else. this is why we have a phenomenon of the not romney. bachmann was the not romney for awhile and herman cain and now newt is the not romney. i think it boils down to something that is not complicated at all. republican primary voters are conservative. they don't believe that romney is. they believe that he will stick a finger in the air and moisten it and see which way the winds are blowing and try to get in that direction. he believes in global warming and man is causing it. conservatives believe that is a hoax. conservatives know that the whole story of man made global warming is a hoax. and they are not going to get excited by a candidate who is trying to gain favor with nonrepublican primary voters by articulating. here is a big problem, greta, for the republicans. and i'm a a lone wolf on this. the rule of thumb in elections both parties, 40% are going vote democrat automatically whatever you do. 40% are going to vote republican automatic whatever you do and in the middle what do we have, precious god love them independents and the moderates and they are the targets. they are the focus of every election. and our brilliant campaign consultants tell our candidates they are the ones that know how to go get a majority of the independents and we have as republicans put ourselves in prison to the whole silly notion that you only win elections by moving to the center and getting independents. fine and dandie but if you squander your base in the process you haven't a prayer. the republican party is trying to do something in this primary unprecedented. trying to split the conservative vote and win the primary with a moderate. with romney. it is the other way around. you consolidate your base and then you move to the center. the republican establishment decided they don't want any part of conservativism and this is really not new. people surprised to hear this but the republican party formative event with conservativism was goldwater's landslide defeat. that is what they think of when they think conservative. they don't think regan. they think goldwater. they believe what the inside of the beltway philosophy is about conservatives that racist sexist, southern hecks, prolifers, embarrassing to have to go to convention with them and they are embare rased to have those type of people in the party, dumb, not educated in ivy league schools. we will take their votes on election day but we don't want to hang around them and we don't want anybody in washington believing we are really that close to them or aligned with them. a very sophisticated elector ate. they can sense that the republican party doesn't like them and doesn't want them and thinks that they are the root to defeat. that is the problem in a nut shell. the republican establishment thinks that the conservative nominee is the root to defeat because they think gold water southland slides are going to happen -- landslides are going to happen. her believe what the popular misconception the left has created of conservatives they think everybody thinks that and so the independents. listen to this. i love this. if barbara boxer said yesterday that republicans with this latest bill on the payroll tax and the pipeline want to kill 8100 people. 8100 people barbara boxer. republicans want to kill 8100 people. republicans want dirty air and dirty water and republican ceos want to kill their customers. you have mean spirited things out of harry reid and pelosi's mouth. you got that. and you got our candidates. a fascinating new story on yahoo news. they were in advertently conferencelisten to a call between a polling group and torrent on how to beat obama. they said don't criticize him personally. he has high personal numbers that people love and a people even feel sorry for them. don't attack obama. you lose. if that is what you going to do, you lose. they said don't bring up jeremiah wright and bill ayers and don't go personal. people like obama. put ourselves in a straight jacket, we lose. and that belief system is rooted in the fact that this 20% versus independents and moderates don't like conflict and criticism of obama and don't like confrontation. they want to us work together across the aisle. compromise. fine. really we criticize obama they will run off to nancy pelosi or barbara boxer who is accusing us of killing people? they look at democrats as mild mannered compromisers. that is a bunch of crap, greta. this whole notion that the republicans can't be confrontational, can't be aggressive, can't go on offense because they will tick off the independents instead of running is a scam philosophy fifthed upon us to shut us up. we are not supposed to be honest o criticism of socialis. we nominate mitting toast candidates and what do they do. in they lose. but we feel better about ourselves. i think if you can get, you talk to these guys. the republican establishment elected officials party officials certain inside the beltway media you asked me can obama be beat. i said hell, yes. they don't think so. they are totally on defense. nobody ever won anything defending anything. you win on offense. you win attacking. you don't win defending anything because you can't advance. they are always defending you can't advance anything. we have got this notion that i think they believe obama can't lose. but they want the senate back. they want their chairmanships and want the congress back and the house the senate maybe they can stop obama that way. more importantly is they are in charge of the money and get the kite chairman shares. i would rather have somebody who thinks obama can be beat and knows obama can be beat and wants obama to be beat and this is going to be somebody who is conservative. not moderate. not squeamish. not populist. we don't need a candidate who is going to try to say or do things he doesn't believe or really isn't to try to pick off a couple of independents and democrats here. i think conservativism appeals to everybody. it is about the best for everybody. all about the best everybody can be using whatever ambition and desire they have got. not shackles. we don't look at people and say you can't to that, we are not capable. we don't look at people with contempt. it is obscene. >> greta: coming up, why are some republicans, yes, republicans, picking on form speaker of the house newt gingrich. have republicans railroad closen their candidate? we ask rush limbaugh those questions and you will hear his [ donovan ] i hit a wall. and i thought "i can't do this, it's just too hard." then there was a moment. when i decided to find a way to keep going. go for olympic gold and go to college too. 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(bike bell) >> greta: rush lame bu limbaugs not holding back. he never does and his vulgar comments landing him right in the middle of a hot national debate. contraception coverage versus the freedom of religion. we spoke to him back in december. what issue got him all fired up then? the nasty tone of the gop race. once again here is rush. >> greta: it seems that a number of republicans that served with speaker gingrich are going after him with greater ferocity. is that different or what is your explanation for that? >> it is interesting to me. there is -- it is not just those guys. it is -- i have been chronicling it the last week and this. it is the inside the beltway republican media. george will called h him a marxist. er this never called obama a marxist. i don't know what some of newt's colleagues who work with him who don't like him or have problems with i don't know what happened because i wasn't there. i know that robert walker who was there is trying to counter balance it saying newt was great when he was speaker of the house. but i think, greta, strip all this away, i really think it largely is an attack on newt because they are are afraid he might win. and the republican establishment is wired in to romney. that is what they had their heart set on. they had their heart set on romney winning early. not a drawn out primary process and not have to spend a lot of money in the primary process. not have to go through fights, destructive interparty fights. get romney nominated and be done with it and a move on to the general and start focusing on obama. i think a lot of ducks were in a row for that to happen. they are frustrated because we talked earlier romney still got 65-70% of republicans that say no in a poll. cain surged and then the women surfaced and where are they now. i still don't know what he did. there has not been one -- if i missed it, conclusive bit of evidence that cain did any of this stuff but it was a wave that was forthcoming that he had to get out. distracting. family didn't like it. now, it is mitt's turn. who everbecomes the andty romney is going to get this kind of treatment because i think there is just a commitment to romney at the upper levels of the republican party. >> greta: why is the upper part of the republican party interested in romney? >> they think romney is the only guy who can beat obama but they really -- greta, don't theseme, you get in the bowels people, the republican establishment, the hierarchy, they are scared to death of obama and really aren't sure are he can be beat. so the calculation is best opportunity, the only electable in this field they think is romney. even if he doesn't win you have got enough down ballot pull to maybe take back the senate which is i think their real objective. if they were honest they would tell you that it what they think the most realistic objective is, is to capture the senate and get their precious chair manships back. if you remember back in the 2010 mid terms the establishment just came unglued at kristine o'donnell and jared engel because both of them are conservatives and opponents weren't. but they thought those people had a better chance of winning. was all about getting committee chair-ship. the republican party is not about conservativism and ideology and that was a big wakeup call for me to realize. there is no conservative movement inside the beltway. it is all outside washington. and a lot of conservative voters have just started realizeing that the last few short years. >> greta: are conservative voters the sai same thing as te tea party? >> largely. >> greta: they are the same people? >> there are a lot of conservatives who are not -- didn't join -- the tea party is not the whole universe of conservative voter is. look, i think that a lot of these 20% independents, i think in there are a lot of conservatives who just won't admit it because to do so in the wrong crowd oh, you listen to limbaugh, oh, you extremist, oh, you are a prolife, oh, just don't want to deal with the criticism. but they are the old regan democrats that regan got. and i don't think obama has a lock on them at all. in fact, greta, gosh, this is so profound. it was three weeks ago now, it was a monday in the "new york times" and a guy name thomas b.edsell is now one of the head honchos at the huffington post. he wrote an op ed piece whiched a mated came right from the regime. they are not interested in white working class family votes. they are writing them off. they don't think they can get them. they are not going to pursue white working class families. now, take the race out of it. i don't mean this in a racial sense. they aren't going after working people other than the union working people. they are going after the poor. the obama campaign is going to try to consolidate the poor and people not working and not paying taxes and that is why all of this class warfare and this 99% versus 1% bs. that is why the rich aren't paying their fair share. taking people who aren't working, who aren't contributing, who aren't doing anything to move the country forward and telling them they are the entitled ones, they are the ones screwed. the rich are only rich because they stole it from you and we will get it back to you which they have been telling people this for 50 years and the poor are still poor. and a minorities are still minorities. and nothing ever changes. they do not improve be people's lives either by group or individuals. but they talk a good game of compassion. they own that moniker. i would rather depend on myself. as a politician i don't know who tells me he is looking out for my best interests but how can he be? i would always rather invest in myself and that self-interest try to be the best you can be. adam smith wealth of nations, 1776, i forget the exact phrase i will paraphrase it he said when you go to the butcher the butcher doesn't give you meat because he is a nice guy and wants to make sure you eat. he is selling you meat so his family can eat. you benefit, too. he is a butcher and cutting up beef and selling it. you buy it and he benefits. what we are facing now is the people like the occupy wall street is yeah, but the butcher is making profit he that is not fair. he is making a profit off of people. but if he didn't there would be no reason to do what he is doing. they think people ought to work for nothing and everybody ought to have whatever government gives them and everybody is equo and they think their needs and wants are going to be supplyd that way and there won't be anybody that has any more than anybody else anded there won't be any risks in life or sadness and disappointment. and obama nurtures that which is unamerican. it is not the way that human beings are built. it is not the way this country was built. it is not the way -- i'm amazed. this country is less than 250 years old. smaller than 300 million people and there are countries and populations around thousands of years and yet we are a super power and our dna is no different than anybody in europe or asia. we are not better people. we are not created specially differently, more blessed, smarter, whatever. how did this happen? and it has to be freedom, our founding documents and has to be the notion that this is a nation built on self-reliance in pursuit of excellence. be the best you can be and you bring everybody in your family along with you when that happens. now, that is a crime. democratic party, that is a crime. obama said this business of taking care of yourself. we can't have that any more. looking after yourself doesn't work. it never has worked. it has. it worked better than anything else including anything he has tried. >> greta: straight ahead, rush says he knows exactly what is wrong with our country. what is it? rush will tell you, next. i'm a home in a high-risk flood area. it doesn't look risky. i mean, phil, does this look risky to you? nancy? fred? no. well it is. in a high-risk area, there's a 1-in-4 chance homes like us will flood. i'm glad i got flood insurance. fred, you should look into it. i'm a risk-taker. 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>> get rid of every liberal in government. what is the one constant? run by liberals. detroit, other places, microcosm of where europe is and where we are headed. unchecked. unstopped liberalism for those that don't like the democratic party, that is where we are headed. there hasn't been any opposition there. not of any strength or power. take a look. that is the one thing that is constant. it was the same thing true of new orleans post katrina. what is the one thing that was constant there? all run by liberals. all run by democrats. ask me what is happening to california? all liberal all the time. tax rates out the wazoo. state on top of federal. taxing the rich even more. people leaving the state for idaho, start businesses elsewhere. the problem is liberalism. i know people watch and that is too simplistic. it is right. it is, correct. that is the one constant the belief that government can do better for everybody than individuals can do for themselves. the belief that individuals are inherently corrupt and government is angelic and so government will take care of the individual corruption by somehow making sure everybody is equal and has the same but government doesn't no he how to produce anything. look at obama and he runs around and says all that. it never worked. how did you get here pal. you got here on a 747. you wouldn't know the first thing to do if you had to make one. that suit what have you done, where did that come from? your shoes? the car you drive around in. the white house. i mean this stuff happened by magic? how does this stuff get built? how does this stuff get produced? this guy is running around ripping this country is having never worked before and hasn't contributed one thing to it. he hasn't -- yet somehow he has all the answers on healthcare. he has all of answers on jobs. it is absurd. he hasn't contributed anything to the greatness of this country. he is out there now trying to take credit for the iraq war. he spent along with every other democrat in the senate seven years, five years undermining it. sabotaging it. dumb war he said. unjust war. immoral. harry reid. this war is lost. and then they are out there talking about general be-tray-us and now out of fort bragg talking about the greatness of america. a democratic outpost in iraq. the greatest sacrifice. he thought it was stupid to have a democratic outpost in the middle east and he didn't think it was possible. now, he is taking credit for it? if he was really the great unifier he would have brought george bush with him to fort bragg and with him to the press conference with nouri al-maliki. if he were really a unifier and wanted to bring the people of the country together. he doesn't want to do that. i think he is happy we are divided. i think he is happy there is chaos. all that means is another excuse, another reason for a government action of some kind to fix it. a government program of some kind to fix it. >> greta: what is the role of government? >> government spelled out ideally and flawlessly and perfectly in the constitution the first ten amendments limit what government can do and fdr and obama have both hate that is a big obstacle. they call that negative liberties. the constitution to them, greta, is negative liberties because it says what government can't do and they want to change it. >> greta: straight ahead, the man behind the microphone. what is rush limbaughs it what is rush limbaughs it greatest passi we have two car insurances that we're going to have you taste. the first one we're going to call x. go ahead and take a sip, and then let me know what the baby thinks of it. four million drivers switched to this car insurance last year. oh, she likes it babies' palates are very sensitive so she's probably tasting the low rates. this is car insurance y, they've been losing customers pretty quickly. oh my gosh, that's horrible!, which would you choose? geico. over their competitor. do you want to finish it? no. does the baby want to finish it? no. rush on the radio said wild horses couldn't keep him away. how did he get there. >> greta: you were 18 years old. $5,000 to your name. no radio show. nothing. what did you do. in. >> i looked for a job. >> doing what? >> whatever my passion was. i knew i wanted to radio when i was 12. i hated school. getting ready for school every morning my mother had the radio on and that guy was having fun and i was having drugry. i wanted to do that what guy was doing. i wanted music and i wanted to be a deejay. i would find my passion and whatever it was wild horses wouldn't stop me and i would find a way to get paid doing it. that is essentially what i did. >> greta: no plan b? >> i don't think you go wrong in you do what you love. you will find it, your ambition. your desire will get you there. your stick to ittiveness. that is what passion and love are. they will get you there to one degree or another. how much you want to apply yourself is up to everybody else and that is up to now you you. i did give up on radio when i was 28. a deejay. figure i was getting too old to play donnie osmond records. wind to work for the kansas city royals. that grew old. i'm not a conformist around i didn't fit being confined. those five years i was there the first five years of my life i was out of a radio station i saw the world differently and met people i wouldn't have otherwise met. i decided to go back to radio because that is what i was best at. i was better that five years off the first day back on than i was in any of the 12 years previous. i decided to go into spoken word, not play music. i wanted to find out if i could be the reason that people listen to radio. not gets. not authors. i wanted to find out if i could be the rhine. i got lucky and found a radio station that would let me in sacramento and that led to the eib network. so all i ever did was stay dedicated to my desires and i didn't have $5,000 when i was 18. i didn't have anything. >> greta: if worked out okay. >> it has. it has. >> greta: rush, thank you very much. >> thanks. i appreciate it. >> greta: thank you for being with us tonight. make sure you go to greta wire .com and let us know what you thought about the encore presentation of rush limbaugh "on the record." captioned by closed captioning services, inc. 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