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Health and the nations. Then, the diagnosis rocks the race for the white house. Sending my prayers for the health and safety of the first lady and the president of the United States. Chris well talk with a top biden supporter, minnesota senator Amy Klobuchar, and well ask our sunday panel about yet another turbulent week in the 2020 race for the white house. All right now on Fox News Sunday. Chris and hello again from fox news in washington. We begin with the latest on President Trumps health. He remains hospitalized at Walter Reed Medical Center, just outside washington, where hes battling the coronavirus. But there are conflicting reports on his status. The president s doctors painted a rosey picture, reporting yesterday he was doing very well. A senior official later identified as white house chief of staff mark meadows told reporters the president s vital signs were very concerning, and the next 48 hours will be critical to his care. In a moment, well try to clear this up with steve cortez, Senior Advisor for the Trump Campaign. But first, lets bring in Kristin Fisher at Walter Reed Medical Center with the latest on the president s condition. Kristin. Reporter good morning, chris. President trumps physician says that the president continues to do well but he is not out of the woods just yet. Over the next period of a few days, i guess thats the real test, so well be seeing what happens over those next couple of days. Reporter President Trump releasing a four minute video saturday night from inside Walter Reed Medical Center where he is fighting the same virus that has killed more than 200,000 americans. When the president was admitted, the white house said it was done out of an abundance of caution. But we know the mild symptoms that chief of staff mark meadows said the president was experiencing were actually much more serious. Hes made unbelievable improvements from yesterday morning when i know a number of us, the doctor and i were very concerned. Reporter on saturday morning, meadows said the president had gone through a concerning period and was still not on a clear path to recovery. Minutes earlier, the president s physician gave a brighter you assessment. The team and i are extremely happy with the progress the president has made. Reporter its unclear exactly when or where the president contracted the virus but the white house medical unit is looking at last saturdays rose garden ceremony for judge Amy Coney Barrett. Seven people who attended have now tested positive. Changes have been made to the Vice President ial debate which is three days away. Vice president mike pence and senator Kamala Harris will now be seated 12 feet apart instead of seven, but it is still very unclear if the next president ial debate will even happen. Chris. Chris Kristin Fisher reporting from Walter Reed Medical Center. Kristin, thanks. And joining us now, Trump Campaign Senior Advisor, steve cortez. Steve, respectfully, i would like to be asking this of a white house official but theyre not putting anyone out this morning for us to question so ive got to ask you. How is the president doing . Because we had this briefing yesterday in which on the record the president s doctors painted a h very optimistic picture. Take a look. Hes in exceptionally good spirits. In fact as we were completing our multidisciplinary rounds this morning the quote he left us with was i feel like i could walk out of here today. Chris but then white house chief of staff mark meadows said on background, it later was reported it was he who was speaking, that the vital signs were very concerning and that the next 48 hours would be critical. So which is it . Is he doing well or is it more touch and go . I can tell you, chris, that hes doing well. Im not going to get into the intrigue of what was on background or on the record or not. What i know is this. We spoke to the president yesterday, Senior Campaign staff via telephone. He was as upbeat and assertive as hes ever been. We know what the rest of the world saw, which was that terrific video of donald trump the fighter speaking directly to the American People, ex testimony braiextemporaneously r minutes, looking good, sounding good and we know what his doctors said which is that the progress has been incredible. This president is going to recover. We are highly confident of that. And again, hes a fighter in every sense of the word and hes doing really well. Chris well, we all hope that thats what his condition is and thats what the prognosis is. But forgive us and i say the public in general for being a little confused because there were very mixed messages. Thats the message the doctors delivered. But again, mark meadows on background said the president is still not on a clear path to a full recovery. Dont the American People deserve the truth about how our president is doing . Of course. Of course they deserve the truth and thats what im giving you right now. The truth is, we talked directly to the patient, in this case the president of the United States, who tells us things are going great. The whole world heard directly from the doctor who said things are going great. If you see and hear both of them, its sort of case closed really. Chris one more time to ask you about this. Should we disregard the much more guarded message from the chief of staff . Again, look, that is allegedly on background. Im not going of to get into that intrigue. Im certainly not going to take by the way this is chris its not intrigue. He did say it, steve. Well, how do we know that . Do you have a tape of it . Chris in fact, he was quoted directly by a reporter and there is tape that shows that when he was having this background conversation, with reporters, it was he who was talking on camera, so yeah, we do have a tape of it. Ive seen that tape. Look, again, im not going to get into that intrigue at all. I have no idea. Im not mark meadows, not part of white house staff. As you know, both the campaign and white house staff, we both serve the president but we have different tasks. What i know is that we have it from the president himself that hes doing well and he is on task, believe me. There was not one even iota of the president feeling sorry for himself. He said we are going to win this campaign. He is still governing, actively, as president of the United States even from the hospital. We are fully confident his recovery will be complete. Look, its the baseball playoffs right now if i can use the sports analogy. Hes on the dl but very shortly hell be back in the game throwing 95mileanhour fast balls, you can count on that. Chris we all hope that hes got his high heat, as they say in baseball. Thank you on that, steve. I want to go back to the rose garden event last saturday where the president announced his nomination of judge Amy Coney Barrett to replace Ruth Bader Ginsburg on the Supreme Court. I want you to take a look at this picture that we have here. Seven people there, the president and first lady, senators lee and tillis, Kellyanne Con way, reverend john jenkins and chris christie, all of those seven people in that picture have since tested positive for covid. Question, steve. People packed together, the vast majority not Wearing Masks, how does that make sense . Well, look, heres what i would say. Tremendous precautions are taken to protect the president as you well know. Anybody who goes to see the president must subnote a covid test first and there is significant distancing. People dont physically get close to the president. His family members, some of the security detail, thats a different story. I think given these precautions and given that he is probably the most protected person on earth, the fact that he still got infected shows us that unfortunately this virus has that kind of power, that kind of communicable ability. The president , though,s hes made this clear, he was unwilling to completely sequester himself, to take no risk because leaders take risks and he is the servant to the people as well as the commander in chief. So he said he must be around the people he serves and he knew that it was not riskless for him to do so. He could have been sealed in the residence and practically guaranteed he wouldnt get the virus. Instead, he took reasonable risk, not reckless ones, but reasonable risk. Unfortunately he got the virus. What this shows us from a policy perspective is that we know that even the most severe of lockdowns can not completely stop the virus. Therefore, we should take reasonable precautions as a society and we should not as joe biden threatens even think about shutting this economy and this society down again. To me, the most consequential divide from your debate that you moderated between the two was that issue of the president saying we are staying open, well take precautions but we can manage the risk. Chris lets talk about reasonable risk. There was the debate on tuesday night, as you say that i moderated. The rules from the Cleveland Clinic could not have been more clear. Everyone, everyone in the audience was to wear a mask. The president and the vice former Vice President and i were the only ones exempt from that. We have a picture on the screen, after the first family came in, they all took off their masks. So did the white house chief of staff, mark meadows. Do they think the health and safety rules for everybody else do not apply to them . No, thats not the reality. Look, everybody was tested before that event as you well know. Those of us who went first were tested by Cleveland Clinic directly. Everyone who gets on air force one is tested before they get on. Chris steve, it doesnt matter. Everybody that was in that room was testifieded was tested. And the regulation was that it didnt matter, everybody except for the three of us on the stage was to wear a mask and people from the Cleveland Clinic came over and offered the first family masks, thinking maybe they didnt have them. They were waved away and the commission on president ial debates issued a statement saying from now on, if you dont wear a mask, youre going to be escorted from the hall. So forget the question of being tested beforehand. Everybody was tested beforehand. No. Im going to finish my question. Everybody was told to wear a mask. Why did the first family and the chief of staff feel that the rules for everybody else didnt apply to them . Chris, we believe that masks are very useful. The president has worn them on many occasions including visiting the hospital where he is now a patient when he was visiting as commander in chief. We believe in masks. We also believe in some element of individual choice. People were distanced. And they had been tested. Both of those things were true in that convention hall. Chris they werent distanced. There were rules. There was no freedom of choice. They broke the rules. I was there like you were. They were distanced. Those chairs were not close together. We also believe that people chris it doesnt matter. The rules from the Cleveland Clinic they were close together and the rules from the Cleveland Clinic were everybody wears a mask. Why didnt they . Chris, the way youre starting to harang me now reminds me of what you did to the president. He had the debate, not just joe biden u but you as well, you were not a neutral moderator then. I dont mind truffe questions. What i tough questions. What i dont think is okay for you to become the effective opposition of to the president. Everyone was tested in the crowd. They were distanced from each other. People can make reasonable decisions for themselves. There were rules. They will be kicked out next time. The president interrupted me and the Vice President 145 times so i object to saying i haranged the president. I know its the talking point. With the president in the hospital theres a concern about the continuity of government. Is the campaign giving any consideration, given the fact that the Vice President is the next in line to the president , about keeping him off the trail, before the Vice President ial debate, until we see that the president is safe. We think its important that our campaign vigorously proceed. And look, the Maga Movement is bigger than just President Trump. Hes instrumental of course but he is not the only key element of the Maga Movement. What we have said is that the other people including of course Vice President Pence Campaign people, millions of regular americans need to step up and to some degree fill the void that is left because our champion, our main instrument is not able at this moment to vigorously campaign and not campaign physically right now at all. The government is functioning flawlessly right now. It will continue to. The United States thankfully has vigorous structures for chain of command and there will be no disruption. Chris and the Vice President is going to go on with his schedule as planned to the debate, to rallies . Correct. He is going to continue to campaign of course with an abun dabs of caution. That was abundance of caution. That was already in place but even more so now. Chris the president keeps saying that were rounding the corner of the pandemic. Here is some of his recent statements. Take a look. I mean, i have a mask right here. Ill put a mask on, when i think i need it. Tonight as an example, everybodys had a test. I dont wear masks like him. Every time you see him, hes got a mask. He could be speaking 200 feet you away and he shows up with the biggest mask ive ever seen. Chris but i want to put this graphic up on the screen. The seven day average of new cases is almost 44,000 new cases a day and 700 new deaths a day. Steve, how is that rounding the corner . Well, i cant see the graphic. Ill tell you how we are rounding the corner. Its not my opinion, by the way, its from medical authorities. Admiral jeeroe was on the air a few days ago. He pointed out that after the july 2nd spike high, how much better were doing nationally, down 50 in hospitalizations, down 60 in icu patients and down 34 in deaths. Now, nobodys signaling the all clear. But all of those of statistics that i noted tell us that we absolutely are rounding the corner as a country, by the way, not just on the virus but also economically, were more than rounding the corner. Were actually exploding higher economically and theyre very much related those two of course. Part of the reason why President Trump needs to and will recover quickly is because he needs to also get back to leading the greatest economic recovery in American History and that is tied of to our trend toward health. Chris finally, and ive got about a minute left for you on this one, steve. With the covid outbreak not only in the white house, and among people there, but also at least three republican senators now have covid, democrats are calls for a delay calling for a delay in the confirmation hearing and confirmation vote on judge barrett to the Supreme Court. Any chance of that . No. Listen, there will be no delay. And leader mcconnell has been adamant on this. Theres already been quite a bit of Remote Technology used in these hearings. Clearly those who of dont feel safe to be in a room can do so. Theres a constitutional mandate to do this. Theres an electoral mandate to get this done. It can be done expeditiously. Amy Coney Barrett is an you youg justice. She will be a credit to the court. Chris thank you for joining us today. Sometimes it gets heated but youre always a gentleman. I appreciate it sir. Thank you. Chris coming up well discuss the president s treatment and prognosis with a Top Public Health expert. And did the Trump White House let down its guard in dealing with covid19 . Whoa i feel good i knew that i would, now i feel good get a dozen double crunch shrimp for one dollar with any steak entree. Only at applebees. Robinwithout the commission fees. So, you can start investing today wherever you are even hanging with your dog. So, what are you waiting for . Download now and get your first stock on us. Robinhood. To stir that fire, university of phoenix is awarding up to one Million Dollars in scholarships through this month. See what scholarship you qualify for at phoenix. Edu. Chris President Trump is hospitalized at Walter Reed Medical Center after testing positive for the coronavirus as new cases emerge among his top advisors and allies. Joining us from baltimore, dr. Tom inglesby, director for the center of Health Security at Johns Hopkins university. Doctor, i always hesitate to ask about a specific case to a doctor who hasnt seen the patient, but from your experteese, knowing what we know about the treatment the president has been receiving and the fact that hes been hospitalized, what does that tell you about his case, his condition . Well, chris, i think the news that we heard yesterday was largely encouraging, the fact that the president is not requiring oxygen, that a number of lab tests were reported to be normal and he was able to deliver that video yesterday. But what we heard from the president s chief of staff was concerning, the fact that he at least mr. Meadows said that his vital signs were concerning on friday, that he was requiring oxygen. Those are worry s worrisome th. There were a number of tests that i presume were done at walter reed including a chest xray, ct scan, white blood cell count, inflammatory markers, it would be useful to be able to judge his risk Going Forward to know what the results of those tests were. But so far, the news that weve heard has been encouraging. Chris well, thats encouraging to hear. But you anticipated where i want to take this. The president is a 74yearold man who is technically obese. You hohow long before we have ae whether hes out of the woods and at one point mark meadows was saying the next 48 hours, the doctors were saying seven to 10 days. You know, when are we going to know whether hes okay . And i guess part of the question is, what is the likelihood, being where he is right now, that he can participate in a president ial debate in 11 days . So its always very difficult to make judgments about individuals, especially unless youre really involved in the care. Overall, in this age category, people of the president s age, there was a large study done by cdc in january to may timeframe that said about a third of people his age who were diagnosed with covid would be hospitalized and theres a significant mortality rate in that age group. Now, the president is receiving extraordinary care and looks like hes doing well but its certainly a serious disease for people of his age and with underlying conditions. We do know that some people have symptoms that are mild and recover and do extraordinarily well in the first week but there are others that in the five to 10day time range can have a relatively quick deterioration and develop more severe symptoms and its very difficult to judge that at this time. Again, those additional test results would help had us make some judgment about the likelihood of his disease Getting Better or the potential for worsening. In terms of the debate, i think its too soon to say. Go ahead, chris. Chris i was going to ask you, though, because this does get to the bigger issue of the proper safety regulations. The rallies that the president held where thousands of people were there, oftentimes with no separation. The vast majority of them not Wearing Masks. And then as i discussed with steve cortez, the president s family and advisors ignoring the requirement at the debate that they wear masks. As a Public Health official, what do you think of that . Yeah, i think there is clear danger in having events where there are many people close together without Wearing Masks for prolonged period of time especially where loud voices are used. We know virus is spread by loud voice more effectively. I think large gatherings like rallies shouldnt be happening at this point for any purpose during a pandemic which is in the last few weeks actually been getting worse and i think when the Commission Sets rules for preventing transmission during debates, they should be followed. People shouldnt be making their own decisions, they should be following the rules that are established by the Public Health experts who set up those debates. Chris i want to pick up on a question i asked mr. Cortez and thats the continuity of government, because the president is in the hospital as we say, his prognosis is uncertain and the course of this. Your thoughts about Vice President pence, the next in line to the presidency, going ahead with public rallies, going ahead with this debate. Is that a sensible action for him to take or does it raise concerns in your part about the next person in line to the presidency . You know, my view at this point is that the rest of the debates, that the Vice President ial debate and if there are president ial debates should be virtual. I think at this point weve seen from the first debate that there were unanticipated very large risks that developed around the debate and the days afterwards. And in fact, by public accounts, it looks like the Vice President had a meeting with the president on tuesday, a period of time where he would be presumed to be contagious, and so in my mind it seems like the Vice President should be in quarantine, even if he is getting tested on a daily basis, and so in any event, i dont think it is a proper risk to take to have him gathering with senator harris in person and they could easily do this debate virtually as was done in the past for at least in the case of kennedy and nixon, i know we did virtual debates. For Public Health purposes i think it would be safer not to have large gatherings at this point given the risk of the pandemic. Chris i want to pick up on something you just said, which is that in fact the pandemic is getting worse. The president has been sending a consistently optimistic message about where we are with covid19 in recent days. Heres some clips from that. Take a look. Were rounding the turn, were rounding the corner on the pandemic. Tremendous progress is being made and i say it, ill say it all the time, were rounding the corner. I just want to say that the end of the pandemic is in sight. Chris doctor, where are we really with covid19 at this point in this country . We are still in the middle of a dangerous pandemic in this country. If you look at the papers this morning and the data, you can see that something on the order of twothirds of the states in the country have had increases in covid numbers in the last week and were seeing as you said earlier in the 40,000 range of cases every day. Hospitalization rate has begun to tick up again. If you look at the numbers across the country and there are places in the country in the midwest, particularly in wisconsin, which are having extraordinary numbers, the highest numbers yet since this places started with places in wisconsin having trouble accommodating all the sick people coming sick with covid. I think people need to really continue to take this very seriously, to avoid large gatherings, wear masks, physically distance as they have been over time and hopefully in the months ahead well begin to get vaccines coming online. In the meantime, its important to take the precautions weve been taking all along to prevent transmission. Chris ive got a minute left. What is the biggest lesson that people should take from the fact that even the president of the United States, who was in the most secure health bubble of anybody maybe in the world, can still get this illness, whats the lesson people should take from that and specifically what they should and shouldnt do . Yeah, i think the lesson is that this is still the same virus, the virus hasnt changed. We heard earlier this week that most of us are still susceptible to this virus in this country, only a small percentage of of us have been infected and recovered at this point so people should take it very seriously. We have to find a balance in terms of living our lives and trying to get the economy moving but everything that people can do as individuals in terms of masking, physically distancing, avoiding large gatherings, we should be doing that. And hopefully in the time ahead with more diagnostic testing and with the coming of new therapies and vaccines, the risks will continue to go down. For now, you need to take this virus very seriously. Chris dr. Inglesby, thank you. Thanks for joining us. Its always good to talk with you, sir. Thanks so much. Chris up next, well turn to one of joe bidens key backers, senator Amy Klobuchar joins us, to discuss the president s covid diagnosis and what it means for the campaign. We live in uncertain times. However, there is one thing you can be certain of. The men and woman of the United States postal service. We are here to deliver your cards, packages and prescriptions. 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Senator, what are your thoughts about the president s illness, first of all, the fact that the president and first lady have contracted covid and secondly, how hes handled covid over these last months. Well, first, chris, my prayers are with the president and the first lady. And all of their staff and the republican senators that we now know are ill and we wish them all a speedy recovery. I think it was joe biden had said that this should be not about partisanship, not about politics. This is an american moment. And to me, that means electing a president that has a plan instead of panned money yum. Pandamonim. I think it means putting a strong leader in place that understands we listen to the experts, just like the doctor we just had on who is telling people, yes, wear masks in public settings. It will save 100,000 lives in 100 days. You need a plan for having National Testing strategy which would help us immensely with our economy, so businesses can reopen in a very consistent way and then the third thing is transparency, with Contact Tracing and the like. And we just havent seen that. We heard things like oh, this will be done by easter, oh, this will go away with warm weather, oh, this is a hoax. This is deeply personal to me, chris. You know that my husband was very, very sick, had pneumonia, was in the hospital for nearly a week and it is deeply personal to so many americans. It is now personal to the president. But it is deeply personal to so many people and thats why i think you see in states like florida now, since the debate, where people didnt like what they heard from the president. Joe bidens up 5 points in a poll yesterday or hes up in pennsylvania. Clearly, democrats, republicans and independents want someone that is following the facts and is going to help them out and their families and get us through this pandemic. Chris senator, the Biden Campaign has taken down all of its negative ads, but the president s some republicans are saying that democrats are still attacking the president while hes now in the hospital. Should discussions about covid be off limits at this particular point . Well, not discussions about covid, not when you have 7 Million People get this virus. Not when you have people in assisted living who have been isolated for this entire year and moms juggling their kids on their lapse while theyre trying to do their work, no. I think joe biden has set the tone here because hes a leader and he said, look, i want the president to be back. He wants to debate him more. He wants him to have a speedy recovery. And so this isnt about politics or partisanship. But certainly the pandemic, the effect that its had on peoples lives, how they have miscalculated it, this administration, of course thats on the table because as joe pointed out at the debate, we have 200,000 families right now that have a chair at the table thats empty. So it is on the table. As well as the economy and how we can get through the day after tomorrow and the kind of leadership wleadership need to e get there. Chris the issue of how to campaign during a pandemic came up during tuesdays debate. Take a look, senator. I have 25, 35,000 people show up at airports. We use airports. Are you not worried about so far we have had no problem whatsoever. Its outside. Hes been totally irresponsible the way in which he handled the social distancing and people Wearing Masks, basically encouraging them not to. Chris this raises the whole question of how to reopen the country, whether its reopening, how you conduct the campaign, whether its reopening the economy, whether its reopening schools. You heard trump cam contain advisor steve cortez say and the president said in the debate that joe biden is being too cautious, too much of an alarmist and is too ready to shut down the government again. Or rather shut down the any again. Excuse me. Economy again, excuse me. Joe biden has made really clear that he wants to build back better and he wants to the get this n economy to a place where were actually expanding. I note that moodys, not exactly a liberal organization, said that joe bidens plan will add 7 million more jobs next year than Donald Trumps plan. So he wants to do that. But he believes you use science as a guide, thats all. And you can see, you shouldnt just have testing for white house staff. We should be able to have Grocery Store clerks and nurses and first responders, they should be able to have more frequent testing too. And there is a way to do this. But right now, its just this idea that oh, this is going of to get better, we turned the corner as your first guest just said, 33 states, thats the facts. The doctor said them. 33 states weve seen increases right now in the last few weeks. And so what does that mean to me . We can get through this. Theres so much promising work being done on vaccines but to get to that point, we have to have a National Testing strategy and we also have to have an economic plan for what i call the day after tomorrow. So we can get through this strong. Chris senator, it turns out that two of your republican colleagues on the Senate Judiciary committee, senators mike lee and thom tillis, have now tested positive for covid. Are democrats going to try to use this as a way to delay the confirmation hearing and the confirmation vote on judge barrett . Its not a matter of using it, chris. It happened. And the first thing we know is that if you look at the precedent that Mitch Mcconnell said, we should let the people decide and thats where the majority of people are when it comes to this. Decide who the president is, after this election, and let them pick the nominee. Secondly, weve got the fact that now three senators have it. As you point out, two are on the judiciary committee. And Mitch Mcconnell has shut the senate down for two weeks because of health concerns. Because we dont know how many other republican senators had it. There were a number of other ones that were at the rose garden. They have a lunch together where they dont have masks. We dont do that on the democratic side. They do. And so its very possible were going to have more senators, more staff, so i dont know why you would ram through the Supreme Court hearing, put people in danger, because it would be within that twoweek period, while you have shut down the whole senate. I just think its wrong. Youre suggesting that that we wait. Chris senator, the fact is that you can hold hearings in different ways. In fact, last may when the chairman of the judiciary committee, lindsey graham, held a virtual hearing, you very much praised him and thanked him for doing that. So you could hold a virtual hearing for judge barrett. Which raises the question again, are you trying to use the fact that there has been this outbreak, at least three republican senators, to try to block a nomination that you frankly oppose fiercely . Absolutely not. This is for the highest court of the land and yes we have had virtual hearings. I helped to put them together. Its important to give senators that option but you want to be able to go back and forth with this nominee, given her views on the Affordable Care act, given that she has clearly criticize Justice Roberts who again, not exactly a blazing liberal, for upholding the constitutionality of the Affordable Care act which allows people to keep their insurance when theyve got preexisting conditions. And she has criticized that. Yeah, we want to be able to ask her. Chris senator, were doing this virtually. So why cant you question judge barrett virtually . Again, we believe you should have an inperson hearing, that doesnt mean the virtual option wouldnt be available. But why would you ram i guess i would turn the question around here even though you get to ask the question. Why would you ram this through when we dont even have a covid package done to make sure that people have healthcare, that we have the testing i just talked about, that we have the funding for that. The Senate Republicans have been resisting this while nancy pelosi has been val correspondently working on valiantly working on it. Why would we be doing this instead of actually be helping the American People . Thats why i think it is so important that thats what we do instead of ramming through a Supreme Court justice. Wait until after the election. Better for safety, better phon the for the better for the country. Chris thank you. Thanks for your time this weekend. Please come back. I will and i did that all without interrupting you once, i would like to point out of, chris wallace. [ laughter ] chris i interrupted you a couple of times. Its a little hard on this skype deal. Senator, thank you. Up next, we bring in our sunday group to discuss whats at stake now that the president s off the trail and in the hospital, just 30 days from the election. I think im doing very well but were going to make sure that things work out. The first lady is doing very well. Going into crowds unmasked and all the rest is sort of a brazen invitation for Something Like this to happen. Chris President Trump in a video message before heading to the hospital friday and House Speaker nancy pelosi saying the president s illness should be a learning experience for him. And its time now for our sunday group. Steve hayes, fox news correspondent Jillian Turner and charles lane from the washington post. Steve, lets talk obviously our concern is with the health of the president. There are political implications as we are 30 o 30 days from the election. In the latest fox news poll, when people were asked who do you trust to do a better job on coronavirus, and this is before the events this week, 52 said biden, 44 said President Trump. To the degree, steve, that this puts covid back at the top of the political agenda and that as we see in that poll, people already had concerns about the president s handling of the coronavirus, how tough is this . How big an obstacle for the Trump Campaign . I think its a very big obstacle. Theres no question that covid is at the top of the list of concerns of voters right now because of the attention thats being paid to the president as he tries to work through this, as he tries to recover. I think the challenge for the president is that he has been stricken with the virus after having been incautious about it, to be generous. I mean, reckless would be probably a more appropriate describe tore. I think thats description. Thats a challenge for the Trump Campaign. It was interesting hearing steve cortez suggest that Vice President pence would operate with an abundance of caution Going Forward as he potentially does Campaign Events and participates in the debate. The trump Team Including his family at the he debate has been operating in the absence of caution and i think that will sort of put in additional focus on the ways in which the trump world, the Trump Campaign, the white house, the president himself has not taken the kinds of precautions you would expect him to be setting an example for the rest of the country. Chris jillian, i want to pick up on this question of continuity of government because weve got such dramatically different answers from the Trump Campaign advisor, steve cortez, and from the Public Health expert, dr. Inglesby. With the president in the hospital and the word coming out that whether its the next 48 hours are critical or day seven through 10. We dont know. We hope but we dont know how the president is going to do here. And i want to ask you what youre hearing from your sources in the National Security community. How concerned are they about the Vice President s intention apparently to go ahead, to go back on the campaign trail, to conduct this debate, with senator ai harris, the Vice President ial debate in utah on wednesday, given the fact that under the lines of president ial succession, hes next in line to be president . Chris, since the president s diagnosis, his positive test result became publicly available a few days ago, ive pretty much spent the entire time speaking to National Security officials in this administration, current and former and previous administrations and to a person, every Single Source tells me that the number one priority now Going Forward is on what you just mentioned continuity of government operations. In laymans terms, that essentially means making sure that the government continues to function as normal now, while President Trump is in the hospital, and then over the coming days, should he become more ill, more gravely ill than he is now, making sure that theres a plan for that too. They are working of on that behind the scenes, hour by hour now. The white house isnt talking about this publicly yet, you aside from saying everything is fine but thats going on behind the scenes. Theres a lot of machinations and internal calculations about how to prevent more spread inside the white house, moving people to different locations. Varying hours of work, who is allowed to go over to walter reed and see the president , that kind of a thing. Chris but jillian, specifically, is there talk, either among current officials or glues th just in the people e National Security community that perhaps the Vice President should shelter himself, shouldnt be going on in public and rallies and going out to this Vice President ial debate . Well, chris, its unsurprisingly the information im getting on that from sources is very split. People in biden world say that of course Vice President pence should be sheltering in place. He should be quarantining, not only because he was exposed to President Trump, but also because his health is now a matter of national concern, he has a greater obligation to the American People than ever before to keep himself healthy. The trump team says absolutely not, with President Trump sequestered away at walter reed, the Vice President is out taking center stage for the first time in five years this week. Hes going to be on the campaign trail, hes going to host a rally on thursday. Hes the face of the administration on the ground this week while President Trump is there. Chris chuck, lets talk about the Biden Campaign. Do they have to be sensitive in the way that they handle the president s illness and covid generally in this period while the president s in the hospital . On the one hand, as steve suggested, its a good issue for them, when covid is the top issue, people tend to lean towards the Vice President. On the other hand, any kind of an attack that seems overly aggressive certainly seems to me has the risk of backfiring. Yes. And they have so far played it accordingly. They pulled their negative ads. The candidate himself has expressed his best wishes to all concerned. You saw Amy Klobuchar right now repeating that as well. And frankly, i dont think they need to campaign overtly on this because it is such, again, unfortunately we have to talk about it in political terms, it is a political benefit to them to remind the entire American People of the issue of the pandemic, which they have been trying to put front and center. And i might add, theres another theme that this raises. The kind of in the rush of these incredible events of the last week, theres a unifying theme from the president s tax returns coming out, to that extraordinary performance at the debate, to the people not wearing their masks, unifying theme is that you could argue this is a president who doesnt believe the ordinary rules apply to him. And that theme is now out there, in the public, in all these different contexts, its very difficult for the administration to explain away and its helping biden. Chris you know, you mentioned the debate and it seems like that was about two weeks ago. In fact, it was on tuesday and theres no question it was unusual. Heres a look back at some of that. I think that the country would be better served if we allowed both people to speak with you fewer interruptions. Im appealing to you, sir, to do that. And him too. Chris well, frankly, youve been doing more interrupting than he has. Thats all right. But he does plenty. He does plenty. Chris less than you have. Steve, what is your sense of the reaction to the debate and there are stories take republicans are quite concerned that this is not only going to hurt the president but may hurt other gop candidates down valley. Yeah, i think were already seeing that. I mean, its good to be sort of dismissive of the instant polls that we see on the night of the debate or the day after. Now weve had several days of polling. I had conversations with republican strategist whose are working in swing states around the country and they are to put it they are alarmed. The numbers theyve seen since the debate suggest that exactly as you point out, its not just affecting President Trump. People look at the debate performance negatively. He was interrupting considerably more than joe biden as you point out. Its also starting to affect republicans down ballot. Were seeing competitive races in states where you would not expect to see competitive races. I spoke with one republican strategist who said we all have this group of senate races that we thought of as competitive. To this point. And if this current trajectory continues through november 3r 3rd, were going to be talking about a lot more republican senators at risk than were talking about right now. Chris chuck, ive got less than 45 seconds for this. The question of judge barrett and the outbreak of covid in the senate, do you think democrats are going to be successful in trying to use this to delay and or eventually block her confirmation by this senate . Doesnt seem that way. You know, i have spoken with people in Mitch Mcconnells camp, theyre determined to go ahead with this. They may have to tweak the schedule here and there. And frankly, the recent events incentivize them more because this is a topic they want to be discussing in the last two weeks of the campaign instead of the pandemic. I expect the republicans to do everything they possibly can to get it done. Chris and jillian, your thoughts, any chance that this is going to stop the republicans from consisten confirming amy cy barrett . Youve got 10 of seconds. I dont think so. Senator graham said hes going to do whatever a it takes, whether it virtual hearings, virtual votes even on the house floor, so the rules are going to be changed in the next few weeks. Chris as we all learned, individual wall works, maybe virtual works, maybe not as well as in person but it works. Thank you, panel. See you next sunday. And well be right back with a final word. 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