Africa through their airports, who have had direct contact with ebola patients including all medical workers. Here is governor Chris Christie announcing it. New jersey, new york are going to determine the standards of quarantine since cdcs guidance is continually changing and we need to set a standard for our two states. Given that people are not contagious until they show symptoms, does it is it good science to quarantine them for 1 days . First principle, protect American People. Second principle, make your decision based on the science. Right now, as we said many times, people who are without symptoms do not transmit ebola. We know that. So, guidelines regarding how you handle people from coming back should always be based on the science. And the science tells us that people who are asymptomatic dont transmit. That doesnt mean were cavalier about it, but that means there are other steps to protect American People based on the scientific evidence, that does not necessarily have to go so far as to possibly have unintended consequences of disincentivizing Health Care Workers. The beth way to pres otect us io stop the epidemic in west africa. We need those Health Care Workers so we dont want to put it in a situation where it makes it they uncomfortable for them so, youre saying this mandatory 21day quarantine, especially for people who are completely astock ymptomatic, i good science. If youre talking about a asymptomatic person, theres a way to monitor them. You could do it by active and direct monitoring. That would accomplish the same thing. The difficulty when you put someone am a position, if youre going over there, when you come back, no matter what you do, no symptoms, youre not at a high risk, you still have 21 days out of your life where you cant move, i think well have unintended negative consequences. So, youre against the 21day quarantine . Personally, myself, as a physician, scientist, i wouldnt have recommended that. A lot of listeners will say, lets look at the case of this doctor, craig spencer. He started feeling sluggish on tuesday, running around the city, on subways, at the bowling alley. And he does all of this before he, you know, is reports in and is taken to the hospital. Can you trust people . Heres a doctor. Can you trust them to selfmonitor . Well, in general, the human nature, you cant say everyone is the same with your trust, but what you can do to get that extra step is ratchet up the monitoring from passive to what we call active or direct, where someone actually each day would take the temperature, get a symptom story and then make a decision whether someone can go out. But dr. Spencer did exactly what he should have done. When he got back, Doctors Without Borders say, you report your symptoms. He did. As soon as he got a fever, he put himself in isolation. But he was sluggish and running around town. No one came into contact with his body fluids, so the risk is essentially zero. Vanishingly small. You talk about what you seem to think is the lack of scientific wisdom in the decision to impose this 21day quarantine. Youre the point man for the government on infectious disease. Did anyone from governor christies office, Governor Cuomos office, contact you, or the cdc, before this quarantine . The cdc was all over this. The cdc sets minimum types of requirements which are good, below which you cant go. The states have the authority to go beyond the cdc recommendations, which is what, in this case, they did. But the cdc immediately was involved in trying to make sure americans are protected. I want to get back to the your main concern here because youve said repeatedly, youve been on this show a lot the last month, and youve said repeatedly that the big concern and that were not going to solve this crisis until we stop ebola in west africa. How concerned are you . Perhaps, youre in contact with Public Health workers, the kind of people who are volunteering to go over there, how concerned are you that if they know that im going to go over there, im going to put myself in jeopardy, and then when i come back, im going to face a mandatory threeweek quarantine out of my life, unable to move around, unable to go back to my job, how concerned are you thats going to stop people from going in the first place . I am concerned, chris, because the people ive spoken to that are going there and coming back, are concerned about that. Theyre responsible. They know that if, in fact, they have symptoms and have the possibility of transmitting it, that they dont want to get anyone else infected. But the idea of saying that everybody, even people without symptoms, that clearly could be a disinsintive. Its an unintended consequence. If we dont have people volunteering to go over there, other countries wont do it and then the epidemic will continue. A couple of questions. You released dr. Nina pham. There she is being released this week from nih when she was free of the ebola virus. Have you determined how she got the virus . Was it a problem with the cdc protocols . If so, have you tightened those up . First of all, you never can tell exactly how she got it because she was under one protocol for a few days and then the other. So, whatever it was, she certainly was at a risk and got infected. So, whenever you see that, chris, you try to tighten things up. Right now the cdc protocols are much tighter than they were. Those were protocols that actually worked very well historically in africa. We find now that with the intensive care setting, that we give in this country, they may not be optimal and thats why the cdc has changed them. Finally, there was a story in the New York Times this week, Mike Levinthal referred to it, scientists came up with a vaccine a decade ago that was 100 effective in stopping ebola in monkeys, but because of the fact the disease was so rare, there wasnt a market, incentive to test it and develop it, is there some way first of all, do you think we could have had, if there was a full speed effort ten years ago, could we have had an ebola vaccine by now . Secondly s there some way when there is so Little Market for it that we can get these things developed just in case we get into this kind of situation . Answer to both questions. Certainly without pharmaceutical backing, youre not going to get a vaccine for sure. We could have had one now. You cant predict because there are scientific issues there. We may not have scientifically been able to do it. What the government is doing now with a program is to be able to finance things where you can stockpile. So, the government is realizing that even if there isnt the need out there now, there may be be the need in the future. Thats what that agency is doing. How close are we to a vaccine . Again, i cant predict. I can tell you were moving along. I told you last week were in phase one. Were going to finish that in november. Then well go and do a much larger trial in west africa, likely in liberia and monrovia to determine if it works. Thats what we need to make sure, that it works, because you dont want to distribute a vaccine that could be harmful or not work. The sooner we prove it works, the sooner we can contribute it widely. Dr. Fauci, thank you. Thanks for coming in and updating us on the situation once again. Good to be with you. Up next, new jersey governor Chris Christie joins us for his first sunday show interview of 2014. Well ask him about the new quarantine order, how republicans will do in the midterms and whether hell run for president in 2016. E. Its a fresh approach on education superintendent of public instruction Tom Torlaksons blueprint for great schools. Torlaksons blueprint outlines how investing in our schools will reduce class sizes, bring back music and art, and provide a wellrounded education. And torlaksons plan calls for more parental involvement. Spending decisions about our education dollars should be made by parents and teachers, not by politicians. Tell Tom Torlakson to keep fighting for a plan that invests in our public schools. New jersey governor Chris Christie is traveling the country as head of the republican governors association. Trying to elect gop candidates this year and perhaps set the stage for a potential 2016 run for the white house. Governor christie joins us now from florida, where theres a tight governors race for his first sunday show interview of 2014. Governor, welcome back to fox news sunday. Good morning, chris. Good to be with you. Governor, you just heard, and we want to talk before we get to politics about this whole controversy of ebola and the quarantine. You just heard dr. Fauci, new york citys health commissioner, dr. Mary basset was reportedly furious she was not informed before the quarantine was imposed. Do you no longer trust the cdc and doctors and scientists . Wellr well, no, thats a pretty general statement, chris. Of course we do. But the matter of the fact the cdc quarantine guidelines were a moving target. Imagine youre in charge of the Public Health of a densely populated stated and these protocols continue to move and change. It was my conclusion we needed to do this to protect the Public Health of the people of new jersey. Governor cuomo agreed. Now mayor emanuel agrees. And i think the cdc will eventually come around to our point of view on this. What about dr. Fauci says its not good science to quarantine people when theyre not symptomatic because they cant spread the disease in those situations . Well, listen, i have Great Respect for dr. Fauci, but what hes counting on is a voluntary system for folks who may or may not comply. We had this situation in new jersey with the nbc news crew who said they were going to selfquarantine and two days later they were out picking up takeout food in princeton and Walking Around the streets of princeton. I dont believe when youre dealing with something as serious as this, we can count on a voluntary system. This is governments job, if anything else, the governments job is to protect the health and safety of our citizens. So, weve taken this action and i absolutely have no second thoughts about it. Well, let me ask you about one other aspect of it. Dr. Fauci talks about the unintended consequence. Everyone agrees the only way to stop this crisis is to end ebola in west africa. And doctors and nurses who are willing to take their chances going over there, when they hear they have to undergo a mandatory threeweek quarantine when they get back, may not decide to go in the first place. The first nurse who is under the quarantine feels she was badly treated. Do you feel youll disincentivize people from going over there to stop the outbreak . I dont believe so. I believe those who are willing to take that step and willing to volunteer, also understand its in their interest and the Public Health interest to have a 21day period thereafter if theyve been directly exposed to people with the virus. And as we saw what happened with some of the Health Care Workers in texas, with the cdc shifting protocols, we had people infected from that type of contact. We just cant have that in the new York New Jersey area. Thats why Governor Cuomo and i agree on this. Now you see that they agree in chicago as well. I think this is a policy that will become a National Policy sooner rather than later. Youre in florida as head of the republican governors association. Lets put up the numbers on the governor races. Republicans currently hold 29 governor seats, democrats 21. This year republicans are defending 22 governorships and democrats only 14. Governor, where do you see the count after the election . Its very interesting. Were also defending nine governorship in states that president obama has won twice. And so we have a pretty daunting task on our hands. I think everybody expected us to be a little on our heels. Its now quite to the contrary. Were on offense in more states than defense. The fact is we have 12 races right now within the margin of error, so i think no one can predict where were going to be. Ive been more involved in these races than anyone on this side of the aisle. The fact is, its going to be a real battle down to election day. Because of the great job our republican governors have done and some of the real good things that our candidates are proposing in challenging races, i think well come through this very, very well. Lets ask you briefly about wisconsin where some of the people around republican Governor Scott walker, who is seeking reelection, are complaining that the rga is not doing enough to support him and theyre even suggesting that maybe the reason is because you view him as a possible threat, a possible contender for the presidency in 2016. Your response, sir. Well, listen, the facts just dont back that up. First of all, scott walker and i have a great personal relationship. Just spoke to scott a couple of days ago. We have a great personal relationship and ill be going to campaign for him two more times. Secondly, we spent over 6 million already in the state of wisconsin on this effort. And over the course of scotts three races for governor, 2010, 2012 and 2014, we spent over 20 million. And so, you know, thats just folks who are the in the punditry who want to talk about back room kind of stuff, which has no relationship to reality. I am a complete scott walker supporter. Always have been. And were going to work as hard as we can to make sure hes reelected. And i believe he will be reelected on november 4th. Governor, you mentioned president obama. While hes staying away from Democratic Senate races, hes actually campaigning in several of the governors races. In the final days hes going to pennsylvania, wisconsin, maine and michigan. Is it harder to tie a democratic gubernatorial candidate in a state race to president obama and his policies . It depends on who that democrat is and what their record is. In michigan, congressman gary shower completely supports the obama agenda. And rick snyder, on top of the fact he has an extraordinary record of job growth and bringing detroit back in michigan will be elected. Contributing factor, of course, congressman showers record. Depends on who that democratic candidate is. We rely on republican governors and challengers. You look at someone like Charlie Baker in massachusetts is running an outstanding race there. Weve got a lot of great challengers around the country. Bruce rounder in illinois is doing a great job in that blue state. Tom foley in connecticut is doing a great job in that very blue state. Keep an eye on larry hogan down in maryland, also doing a good job . A very blue state. Those are places where were pushing, chris. We may just have some success on election night. Governor, this is the first time youve done a sunday show since bridgegate, the scandal about the closing of those lanes from new jersey onto the George Washington bridge, causing a tremendous traffic jam because of the fact that the mayor of ft. Lee refused to support your reelection. There was a report in september, last month, nine months into their investigation that federal prosecutors had found no evidence that you had prior knowledge of the lane closures and now, more than a month later, ten months into the investigation, the state and federal investigations continue. Question, why do you think its taking so long . You know, chris, i did this for seven years of my career before i became governor. I was the United States attorney for the district of new jersey. One thing i learned very clearly, any time politicians try to guess what was going on in prosecutors offices, they are making a big mistake. I dont speculate about that stuff. All the people of new jersey know and need to know is that i had absolutely nothing to do with this and that seems to be the conclusion some folks are coming to as well. And i know it will be the conclusion, ultimately, because i know the truth. Well, you talk about prosecutors. Thats the federal case. The state case is being handled by state legislators. Do you think theres an effort by some of the democrats there to keep you under a cloud . Of course. Of course. If you look at what those hearings have been like, theyve been hyperpartisan political. Thats okay. You dont get anywhere by complaining about these things. We took the steps we needed to take when we discovered something in the administration had gone wrong and now we move on. Weve continued to govern and gotten bail reform done in new jersey over the last few months, got a balanced budget passed again and did all the things you expect a government to be doing working with democrats who did not want to be hyperpartisan and political. This is not the kind of stuff that concerns me at all. I keep doing my job and keep doing my job as chairman of the governors association. I dont want to go into it too deeply but you brought up the duj. Youre taking criticism for the financial situation in new jersey. You decided to cut payments to Pension Funds instead of raises taxes on millionaires and businesses, the Credit Rating for new jersey has actually been downgraded eight times on your watch. And the polls in new jersey show you with your lowest favorability rating since you became governor. Whats going on . First of all, chris, you have to remember what we inherited five years ago. An 11 billion budget deficit. Ten years of consecutive tax increases at the state level. This was an awful mess. Now what have we done . Weve had five balanced budgets in a row. Weve had 2. 3 billion in tax cuts to the businesses of new jersey. 143,000 new private sector jobs and an Unemployment Rate thats gone from 9. 7 down to 5. 7 . Im working every day to make that record even better as we go guard. So, there will always be the naysayers, chris, always be the critics. But im in there getting the job done every day and i think thats what the people of new jersey like about us. Lets turn to 2016. Are you going to run for president . I dont know. Havent made up my mind. Wont make up my mind until the beginning of next year. Ive got 36 governors races im overseeing right now, in addition to a pretty busy day job as you outlined with the questions on ebola and the budget and others. So, i have not made a decision, chris, but im not being coy about it. Im obviously thinking about it, but i wont make any final decision until next year. You spoke to the u. S. Chamber of commerce this week and you made some comments that got some attention. Take a look. I am convinced that the next president of the United States is going to be a governor. And it needs to be. We have had the experiment of a legislator whos never run anything, getting onthejob training in the white house. It has not been pretty. You were obviously taking a shot at president obama, but were you also taking a shot at potential candidates rand paul and ted cruz . No. What i was talking about is what weve seen in the white house over the last six years. And i think we see it over and over again with the crises that are happening both around the world and at home right now. You need to have someone in that chair who knows how to make those decisions who has done it before. Thats why i advocate governors as the best people to be considered as president in 2016 pop no, this was a direct commentary on the record of the last six years. Unfortunately, the fact that someone who has never run anything bigger than a senate staff may not be the best training in the world to run the biggest government in the world, chris. In that chamber of commerce speech you also said, quote, its time to start offending people. And theres one comment you made that a lot of people are taking offense to. Here it is. Im tired of hearing about the minimum wage. I really am. I dont think theres a mother or a father sitting around a Kitchen Table tonight in america who are saying, you know, honey, if our son or doctor could just make a higher minimum wage, my god, all our dreams would be realized. While everyone agrees we need better paying jobs, for people making 7. 25 an hour, the minimum wage now, they say getting an increase to 10 an hour would make a big difference in their lives and that you were being cavalier about it. Im not being cavalier. Im saying it exactly as i see it. What we need to do in this country is not have a debate over higher minimum wage. We need a debate over better paying, middle class jobs in this country. If that somehow doesnt comport with what people in the political elite want, im sorry, but i know, talking to families across new jersey and now across this country, that what theyre aspiring to is to have good paying, middle class jobs for their children to take and even higher so that they can have a stable home life, so that they can have an ability to go away on a vacation if theyd like to, so they can have the ability to save for their children to go to college. Thats the kind of future people in this country want. The debate we need to be having is not have a better progrowth economy thats growing jobs and good paying jobs. Jobs in places Like Motorola Solutions or other great places across the country or other places that operate in new jersey and across the country that great paying jobs. Thats not the biggest problem in this country. The biggest problem in this country is opportunity inequality. Thats what mothers and fathers are sitting around the Kitchen Table talking about wanting for their childrens future. Thats what i was saying in those comments and i dont back off those comments one inch. The last time we talked was last november, just after you had been reelected as governor. At that time you were the frontrunner for the republican nomination in those absurdly early polls. A Mcclatchy MaristNational Poll had you leading gop contenders at 18 , paul at 12 , bush at so . Last month bush was in front with 15 , paul at 13 and you at 12 . How badly have you been damaged by bridgegate . Secondly, what do you say to people who may like you but worry you may be too tough, too bare bones, two brass knuckled for the presidency . Even if you did know nothing about it, that you created a climate in your administration that people thought closing the lanes to a bridge was okay. Well, first of all, theres no climate in our administration that would ever permit that. And the termination of folks who were involved proves that very clearly. Secondly, so does our bipartisan record of having achieved property tax reform in new jersey, pension and benefit reform in new jersey, tax cuts in new jersey, five balanced budgets. Where today, chris, were spending less in fiscal year 15 than the state of new jersey spent in fiscal year 2008, seven years ago. Those are all bipartisan achievements because i have a democratic legislature. Bail reform this year and focusing on getting smart with drug rehabilitation. All bipartisan achievements weve done this year. So the fact s you cant worry about those kind of polls for an election thats three years away. And thats certainly nothing that i worry about or is even at the front of my mind. What im much more concerned about is doing the job for the people of my state, which we continue to do. In a second term when you find look whats happening in washington, chris. They cant get anything accomplished down from from the white house on down. In new jersey were still passing major pieces of legislation. No, im not the least bit concerned with that. You know what im concerned about . First and foremost, doing my job as governor of new jersey and making our state a better place to live and work and raise a family. Secondly, electing as many republicans to state houses across this country in nine days. And i think well have success at both. Governor christie, thank you. Thanks for joining us today. Always good to talk with you. To be continued, sir. Absolutely, chris. I look forward to it. How do you think republicans will do in november . Let me know on facebook or twitter foxnewssunday and use fns. As we enter the final week of the campaign, how much of a burden is president obama for democrats in tight races . Our sunday group joins the conversation. I never said i didnt want president obama to come and campaign. The fact is, hes busy in washington. The bottom line is, though, these are all folks who vote with me. They supported my agenda in congress. Thats helpful. Congresswoman shaheen tried to explain president obamas absence from her campaign for reelection. Its time four our sunday group. Brit hume, nina easton from fortune magazine, george will and evan will. Before we get to the midterms, brit, Chris Christie had n effect, a coming out today at least on sunday talk shows. What did you think about his performance and viability on the 2016 campaign . He was fluid on the issues, and good answers for your questions, which were probing. I think were seeing his reemergence. Not that the cloud that hovered over him with this bridge scandal is gone, but its dissipated. The fact groups have not come up with anything suggests they may be doing what theyve continued to do the investigations. I dont think these people are going to stop until they find something but i think the likelihood diminishes. One thing that surprised me in that president ial poll i put up for Chris Christie, lets put it up again, if you look at that, christie has clearly taken a hit since last september because of bridgegate, and despite all that and his absence from the national scene, hes still up there. He is. Hes got low expectations. I cant tell you how many pros have written him off and having low expect takings is a good way to start a race. Lets turn to the midterms and nine days out, george, a lot of these senate races are between the republicans and democrats some republican seats, some democratic seats, are within the margin of error in the polling. This is really tight. Its tight and remarkable because what that means is in arkansas, North Carolina and elsewhere, candidates are running double digits ahead of the president s job Approval Rating, which they shouldnt be doing. 31, 32, 33 and theyre up in the mid to high 40s. Thats right. Right now the campaigns are focused on what they call low propensity voters. Voters who vote in a president ial election but have to be prompted and even prodded to the polls in offyear elections. And one measure of this is early voting. We used to have election day. Now we have election month in this country. In some cases, election eight weeks, six weeks. Republicans say theyre doing very well in early voting and absentee voting. We shall see. There are some interesting polls. The denver post poll shows gardner is ahead of his opponent udall. Among hispanics, 49 to 35. Thats a 14point lead for the republican in colorado. Senator bayh, your reaction to these polls despite the unpopularity to the president , the potential republican wave, youve been there. Your best sense of whether democrats hold onto the senate or if republicans flip it . Let me answer the second question first, chris. This is going to be very close. The number of races that are still in play is extraordinarily high, so its tough to answer with a lot were not going to know until election night. But history, geography and the president s Approval Rating would suggest its going to be a good night for republicans. The big question is the democrats in the senate have invested about 60 million in get out the vote efforts. The Obama Campaign was good at turning voters out and turned states, including colorado in 2012. Michael bennet running in colorado in 2010 did the same thing. Mark begich has spent a lot of money trying to get people registered to vote in indigenous areas, but my guess is control of the United States senate is going to come down to a runoff in louisiana and quite possibly a runoff in georgia. Let me ask you a quick followup question. You talk about democrats to get people who vote in president ial elections but not in midterms to come out and vote this time. Youre also talking about trying to get the obama voters to vote when obama is not on the ballot. What do you think the likelihood of success is for the two of those . At the march begins you can move 1, 2, maybe 3 . The key is there are so many races that maybe that cloeshgs perhaps they can threat the needle and pull it off. Its a dilemma because so many of these states are red states when the president s not popular and still trying to turn out base democratic votes. Theres some cognizant dissidence there. Final thoughts, brit . A bunch of factors mentioned here that favor the republicans, and the democrats turnout machine is superb. Up until this month theyve had a money advantage. Finally, the Republican Party has held which constitute powerful forces that counteract this looks like its going to be a good republican year and may determine whether its good enough for republicans to take control of the senate. We have to take a break here. When we come back, attacks this week in canada and new york city are raising fears about lone wolf terrorism. What do you want to ask our sunday group . Just go to facebook or twitter foxnewssunday and we may use your question on the air. Well be vigilant but we will not run scared. We will be prudent, but we will not panic. As for the business of government, well, here we are, in our seats n our chamber in the very heart of our democracy and our work. Here here. Canadian Prime MinisterStephen Harper taking a firm stand after two terror attacks on his country in three days. Were back now with the panel. Well, it wasnt just canada. Take a look at this video in new york city this week. Of a man with a hatchet who attacked new York City Police officers thursday. Authorities say he had been visiting isis and other jihadist websites. Heres new York City Police commissioner william bratton. As im looking at this, i feel comfortable, preliminary evaluation is this is a terrorist act. The two men, one in new york, one in canada, seem to be clafction selfradicalized lone wolf terrorists. If theyre getting recruited on their internet at home, how do we stop them . I dont count this as being recruited. There are 315 Million People in this country and some are stark raving mad. Thats a fact. Theres always going to be a problem with them. In 1951 a man now unjustly forgotten eric hoffer published a book quauld county the true believer, movements often attract people who find in these movement not real politics but psychoanalysis, psychotherapy. They project their disorderly inner lives on it, get meaning out of it. Im afraid its true then, true now. He received the medal of freedom from Ronald Reagan from 1980 and we should revisit what he saw. That brings up an interesting question. Theres a debate, are these really terrorists you look at these people with long criminal records, down and out, homeless, perhaps mentally ill. Does it make a difference what their motivation is, i mean, if they end up doing their worst . Theyve been called lone wolves. I would call them stray dogs. Skulking around, stray figures, but when they get the backing and the inspiration, which is there now. That is a key strategy of isis is to radicalize westerners both at home with them and here. One thing i think, not to terrify people, but this is something that could go on for a very long time. We have leon panetta, saying this is a 30year war. Ann marie slaughter, former hillary aide saying to me a couple weeks ago, were looking at a 15 to 20year war against terror with isis. This is something we have to confront. We have to confront at hole. Keep in mind, these guys in canada, they were trying to get to the middle east and couldnt and they took it out here. So, this is a problem both in the middle east and at home. George says this is not recruiting, on the other hand, brit, we have had three of these attacks just this week. And one of the questions i have is, is there something about isis and its claims of a caliphate, of an islamic state, great sophistication on the internet with these beheadings, and we know this last fellow in new york apparently had visited those sites, is there something about them that makes them more attractive to the lone wolf stray dogs . It certainly makes it attractive whose lives are in disarray, propensity to violence but may be afraid of dying. The message from isis is, youre going to glor y youre going to be martyred. It gives them a reason not to fear the outcome. This attacker was killed in a hail of bullets from the police guns. He didnt care, apparently. He was prepared for that. If isis is able to inspire violent nut cases across the United States, and there are plenty of them, to carry out random attacks, first on the police, but possibly later on random citizens, this is especially frightening and does have the effect of terrorizing. That video that you showed is truly frightening. I want to get back to this question of what do we do about it . How do we stop it . We ask you for questions for the panel and we got a bunch like this on facebook, from Paul David Henson who writes, why is our governments monitoring of ecommunication still failing to stop a radical who posts plainly on facebook their intentions . What good is it to monitor a detect if youre only going to sit back and watch the attack . Civil libertarians say its not just enough to express radical thoughts. There has to be action behind it. Its hard, as the panel has indicated here. These are individuals who are not communicating with Wide Networks we can normally listen in on. Theyre normally in the country so we cant stop them from getting in. Its a balance of protecting society from these maniacs, these radicals on the one hand versus preserving some zone of privacy on the other. Therein lies the tension. As weve seen, though, there is a controversy, george, about the nsa and all the surveillance and we know they are able to track at least the fact of every phone call and every email. Do we need not more surveillance so that when a guy is is posting some of those things that we pick it up and somehow they fall into the security net. The question becomes what does monitoring mean . Frankly, friends, relatives, family ought to notice the people close to them are deeply disturbed and ought to have Public Officials they can turn to and say this is a symptom attic of potential violence. The idea of the National Security administration collecting metadata and billions and trillions can find a few needles in the enormous haystack and the federal government cmon to. I dont know what that means. This is something to be done at the local level and see something disturbing unfolding. At least in the case of that fellow who went into the parliament in canada, his mother said she hadnt seen him in five years. Some of these people just drop out. You wonder whats the net around them of family and friends thats going to say hes off the rails . Some of them do drop out. By the way, i would put this in the same basket of something we havent talked about today which is school shootings. When you see something, say something. This is a theme that we use to fight fight terrorism since 9 11. Where people can call in. Theyre public. You see these. When you see these troubling postings, you have some place to go with it. Lets take a school shooting. The santa bar pbara shooter. His mother was scared to death her son was going to do this. I think its something you can approach in a similar way. If you see something, say something. Where does somebody troubled by the postings, the activities, the talk of somebody they know, where can they go . But part of the kwand dri there, brit is even if you did let somebody know that so and so is posting terrible things, what are you going to do about it . You cant follow every one of these people around all times. And you cant commit them. There in lies part of the problem here. Everyone who lives in an you are been area knows there are lots of people lying around in our parks and they appear to be harmless and they cannot be institutionalized because the courts have ruled such people may not be. And a lot have been released. Exactly right. I think thats an issue needing to be revisited as well as how easily you can commit these nutty people to institutions to keep them from being on the streets where they may become dangerous. As horrific as this is, you have got a lot greater chance of getting hit in a car accident that you do being attacked by a hatchet. Our way of life may triumph in the long run. Eventually these merchants of death arent on the right side of history. Its a bleak week. Thank you all of you. When we come back well have the panel back. The world series in full swing but viewers arent tuning in like they used to. Like they used to. 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George, as our baseball guru, what is wrong with the National Past time . Not a thing. 20 years ago it was a 1. 2 billion industry. Now its a 9 billion industry. If you add up the combined attendance of the National Hockey league, National Basketball association and football league, Major League Baseball draws 14 Million People than those sports combined. 95 of all selfidentified nfl fans have never been to a game and never will. Its a television program. A lot of people would rather not go experience the stadium on only beians to watch grown man have concussion. This has been a trend for decades. The fact is its been going on this way. Take a look at these numbers, the last nine years the least watched series. 12. 2 Million People we said watched. The last time the royals were in a series in 1985, the games average, 34. 5 million viewers. Thats pretty dramatic. It reflects the proliferation of media options and athletic options. People have a lot more choices these days. Nothing is going to be quite as it used to be. I would defer to the guru but my hope is its not evidence of a broader trend in society, sort of this media constant gratification culture where the pace of the game may not lend itself to that. We have less than a minute left. Brit, baseball knows it has a problem. They have scheduled the world series. Theyre not going up against thursday night and monday night football. They were up against college football. You cant avoid everything. I understand. But college and Even High School has the obsession. But i think football as george suggested may be under a death sentence because of the concussion problem. If thats not solved, kids are not going to be playing and eventually the game will whither. We are flat out of time. Nina, i apologize. I know youre a big sports fan. Thank you. See you next week in new york. As we preview the mid terms from fox news election headquarters. You can attach game five of the world series tonight. Coverage starts at 8 00 eastern only on fox. Thats it for today. Have a great week. Thats it for now. Continue our conversation on twitter. Huckabee starts now. Tonight in huckabee. Shooter in canada. Hatchet guy in new york. Cat least canada knows how to call it terrorism. And iowa waseptember candidate brings back a memorable ad. And also mayor parker, did you get the bible i sent . We have new details about the houston pastors ordered to turn over their sermons, thats tonight. applause