Grants it emergency use authorization. The panel is meeting one week from this coming thursday. Thats going to be on december 10 and then about 24 hours after that, the vaccine will go first probably to healthcare workers and then begin to broaden out to the larger population, if its approved. We hope it is, the chief scientific advisor to operation warp speed says that they will be able to ship those first vaccine to immunization sites within about 24 hours of that approval. Now speaking, david, of shipping vaccines our corporate cousins the wall street journal reporting that you nighted airlines will fly chartered planes between brussels, belgium , and chicago ohare, the airline will carry five times the amount of dry ice normally permitted on board to keep that vaccine cool, has to be at a certain cold temperature on the plane, on thursday, President Trump welcomed this news. Listen. President trump itll hit the frontline workers and senior s and doctors, nurses, a lot of people are going to start and were going very quickly, two Companies Already announced the third one coming up and a fourth and fifth one coming up soon also. That being said its still several months according to healthcare experts before the majority of americans get vaccinated. Its still going to be a difficult few months for many people heading into the winter of course with flu season so the advice from people including dr. Fauci with nih continue to wear that mask. David but extraordinary progress on warp speed really unbelievable. Joe biden thank you, david, joe biden meanwhile expected to announce his Economic Team wednesday as we see record after record on wall street, so what will his administration mean for investors and taxpayers . With me now is former trump Economic Advisor steve moore, democrat strategist kelly heiman , cpa and market analyst dan geltrude and erin gi bbs. Good to see you all happy saturday. Kelly first to you, what are the first economic policies that are going to be rolled out by the Biden Administration . Well, first off thank you so much for having me on the show. Hope you had a nice thanksgiving and your family is well and all of the viewers as well. I think people are struggling personally, professionally, financially and economically, and so its important to get people back on their feet to get some kind of stimulus going to help people move forward and also to help them financially. I think thats key. David but specifically, kelly, i want to stick with you. What kind of policy are we going to see tax hikes, what are we going to see specifically from the Biden Administration first off . Right, well biden has said, i made it clear, that if you make under 400,000, youre not going to get a tax increase, and so hes in regards to taxes, he is going to trump adminitration increase the taxes that have to be paid not by the corporations, im sorry i misspoke. He basically, trump made sure that the corporations pay the left and so biden is going to increase that so the corporations are held accountable and pay that as well david okay. As you know in the house theres a bill sitting for months to help people with the stimulus package get on their feet and hopefully that passes in the senate. David steve moore, in the last administration, run by democrats , obamaBiden Administration, were in a deep recession that one of the first coming out of the deep recession, we had tax increases on corporations, and wealthy individuals. A lot of people said that led to one of the slowest economic recoveries in history. We had under the annual average economic growth, under under the Obama Administration was 1. 6 , very anemic, 1. 9 finally in the last three months but even that was pretty low by the standards before covid. Well youre exactly right and thats covered in my book, by the way, david, trumpenomics, where we took over in 2017 the economy was pretty anemic and it was pretty slow growth but you led with the most important point, david at the beginning of the show. The economy is really taking off like a rocket ship. Nobody expected this , none of the economists thought that we could have this kind of very high growth, were seeing continued good numbers on the employment front, you know, weve had Something Like 12 or 13 million additional workers in the last five months which is a recovery swifter than anyone weve ever seen. Look, i totally disagree with this kind of con census on the left that we need another two or 3 trillion stimulus bill. David, write this down. The stimulus is the vaccine. The vaccine will do so much more to get people back onthejob, to get businesses running. We dont need another 2 trillion stimulus bill and we dont need expanded Unemployment Benefits that pay people more not to work than to work. What trump is doing is working and we dont need 2 trillion more debt. David well, erin investors dont seem to care much about any of these policies because they just keep roaring straight ahead whether its virus concerns or concerns about Economic Policy from the new administration. We had nasdac hit another high on friday, volatility has come down, which means that you dont have these big up and downswings like you have when the markets are worried so why are investors so calm during all of this . Well one thing, the markets are always looking, lets say six to nine months ahead. So we know that we have another six months of really strain on the economy, with the record high unemployment and so on and so theyre really looking at the second half of 2021 and assuming that the vaccine is going to be welldisbursed and were back normal and looking at record recovery growth rates anywhere from 20 to 60 for Small Businesses, so thats whats really driving the market is looking farther ahead. They sort of have given up on 2020 looking into 2021. David you know, im wondering, dan, investors and particularly tax advisors are always advising wealthy people when they are in fear of their taxes going up, how to avoid taxes so we know it happens. Everywhere in the world that happens, whether its a wets tax or a higher Corporate Tax or whatever. Are strategists now developing strategies for their wealthy people, Small Business owners, even the big corporations, to avoid higher taxes . Yeah, theres no doubt about that, david, because the only thing between us and significant tax hikes is a Republican Senate and we dont know how thats going to turn out in georgia, so tax advisors, tax strategists are sitting down with their clients at this point with a plan b and saying okay, what do we do . Part of that is is relocating within the country, because of the structure of the various states, but the other thing to think about is do you want to trigger some gains this year because Capital Gains will be going up in 2021 should biden get his way, so you may want to take some gains off the table. You may want to do some gifting, thats for sure, because the state taxes are going to go up and as far as Small Businesses, because of what joe biden is talking about related to payroll taxes, many Small Businesses are going to move from llc to scorporations to try to get around that payroll tax hike. David well kelly, there have been a lot of reports that even if the democrats dont take both of the senate races in georgia, which means youd have a republican majority maintained in the senate, there still might be things, rule changes, that the new administration could make to tweek our tax laws so that even without the Senate Passing tax hikes, there would still be effective tax hikes going into place. Well i think we have to actually wait and see what happens, and as i said before, biden has said if you make 400,000 or less, he is not going to increase peoples taxes david right but kelly, you know that there are a lot of Small Businesses that make a lot more than 400,000, and theyre not rich people, they put all their money back into their business. These people are driving used cars, it looks like theyre rich because they are making more than 400,000, but they are Small Businesses and they plow all their money back into their business. Right. Absolutely and i think thats a good point but i think that thats something that biden understands, and wants to help the American People, and so i think thats important. Thats why also, look about the Corporate Tax. I mean, thats why hes increasing it. Corporations should be held accountable and take proper taxes not the hardworking American People or Small Business owners, and so i would definitely agree with that and i think thats something that hes going to do. David lets hope so. Steve the other kind of tax are regulations and we saw this incredible deregulation process under the trump adminitration over the last four years, were going through some of the literally hundreds of deregulations that really helped steer this economy. I mean, the jobs market, in this economy, before covid, was extraordinary. Ive never seen in my lifetime a period when you had more jobs than you had job seekers. Thats how strong it was and a lot of it had to do with deregulations and those deregulations might be reversed by the new administration, right . Well thats right. Let me just say a word about the tax bill because as you know , david, i had a small hand in helping put together that 2017 tax cut and by the way the average family gained 2,000 in tax cuts so if you repeal that tax cut its not just people over 400,000 who are going to get the tax increase but virtually every family, but even if it were just the corporations and people makeover 400,000, you know, one of the things that happened when we did that tax cut and we reduced the tax on american corporations and american businesses is we made them more productive and all of a sudden, david, you reported this. 1 trillion, 1 trillion from the rest of the world came to the United States and got it invested here. Its one of the reasons that we had the big jobs boom and we got the Unemployment Rate down to less than 4 , something nobody thought was possible, so i get frustrated when people say well we have this successful policy and now we want reverse it and the same thing goes, david, with the regulation front the area that im most worried about, david, is the energy sector. We are the number one producer of oil gas in the world and its been a game changer for the american economy, millions of americans are employ ed by that industry and you know, President Joe Biden wouldnt have to out law fracking. He would just strangle that industry through regulation. David all right although he says he doesnt want to move on that front except on public lands, well see how that works out. Thank you, gang. Good to see you well see more of you coming up in the next hour meanwhile the Supreme Court cracking down on democrat governor Andrew Cuomos virus limits in new york state, specifically on his limitations and houses of worship. Is this a warning for other governors throughout the nation . David well new York Governor Andrew Cuomo criticizing the Supreme Courts decision to block the states restrictions on religious gatherings as it continues to fight a surge in covid19 cases. The democrat governor calling decision irrelevant and nothing more than an opportunity to express the courts philosophy. Joining me now is father Gerald Murray pastoralism of Holy Family Catholic Church in new york city and also a lawyer for the Church Father murray great to see you thanks for coming in on this saturday. I want to read to you what Justice Gorsuch said about the decisions and decisions be made like it about Governor Cuomo all over the country. Justice said it is time, passed time that while the pandemic poses many grave challenges there is no world in which the constitution tolerates color coded executives that reopen Liquor Stores and bike shops but shutter churches, synagogues and mosques. Now our righttoworship is the first right protected by the first amendment. Does the governor think hes more powerful than that . Well he has and thats why the diocese of brooklyn had to go to the Supreme Court to try and get relief, which thank god, five justices voted on the side of the constitution. Its amazing that governors decide whats essential in the lives of the citizens. Religion is part of the foundation of this country as you know, david. We just celebrated thanksgiving the pilgrims came over seeking religious freedom and then they extended to the indians and enhanced a friendship and great celebratory meal to thank god so the idea that the liquor store is open, the costco is open, the church is closed, i mean, their rule would have been st. Patricks cathedral can have 10 people if its in the red zone, and what are they talking about . Youve been to st. Patricks david. You can fit 2,000 people in there, only 10 . David and yet people are shouldertoshoulder at the Liquor Stores or the walmart or wherever, where its open. It does seem, maybe im being paranoid, but it does seem this was a specific attack, if you will, against religious institutions. Well, you know, it shows a hostility to the religious practice of the American People and thats of all religions and this is completely against what this country is about. Im glad the Supreme Court reign ed them in but im disappointed that Governor Cuomo would say that the court was expressing a philosophy and a political view, no. The court was expressing a constitutional right that is foundational to our country and thank god it is. David the first right and the first amendment, i mean, it isnt coincidence, i think, that the founders put that before all the other rights protected by the first amendment. Absolutely right, and you know, sometimes i get nervous that people who think religion is an obstacle to their political success try to suppress it in different ways. I mean, this is not how we should, people who arent religious, fine i hope they become such but please dont interfere with everyone elses rights and ability to worship god. David and by the way youre a Roman Catholic priest this is not a catholic issue this is a nondenominated it immigration all suit brought against the governor and his edicts, right . There were other religions involved. Absolutely this rule applied to all houses of worship and we have to be very careful they talk about scrutiny and constitutional decisions. Why is it that houses of worship are singled out but other areas of gathering are not . We should not look at religion as a source of problems to society and we should not regulate it more strictly than we do home depot or costco, and i think the average citizen is very happy to see their neighbor freely go to church even if they dont, but on the other hand, we have to remember that the government is not there simply to impress their preferences. They have to uphold the constitution. David forgive me, father, but we had a confluence of events that really hurt our economy and our culture, not just covid but also these riots that took place all over the country, which focused on this cancel culture attitude. A lot of which was attacking religious institutions, in fact there were many attacks against catholic churches and other houses of worship demolitioning religious statues et cetera. Do you think this had any influence at all on decisions to target churches and other houses of worship before they do Liquor Stores . Well, you know, cultural trends are usually what trendy politicians hook on to and people on the left who want to please the rioters in the streets and give them whatever they want would say oh, yeah, you know churches, synagogues and mosques they are suspicious places where people can get sick more readily than if they are at a liquor store or a bike shop. Justice gorsuch had it right. We should not ever create an era where governor by a mere edict can get rid of a constitutional right and certainly a tax on religion are unwell comed, wrong, illegal and they should not become a source of some kind of cultural wave that is used by governors to gain favor. David we only have about 15 seconds, but are you disappointed the decision was so close and it was a 54 decision, because of Justice Barret who made the deciding vote, the new justice. Im always disappointed when something that is clearly a constitutional right is disregarded by some of the Supreme Court justices. I dont understand why they think the law doesnt apply according to other constitution is written and thats very disappointing. David father gary murray thank you so much for being here appreciate it. Students under crushing debt now joe bidens under pressure to wipe it all out. Thats 1. 6 trillion but will that do anything to reel in soaring tuition rates . We made usaa insurance for members like martin. An air force veteran made of doing whats right, not whats easy. So when a hailstorm hit, usaa reached out before he could even inspect the damage. Thats how you do it right. Usaa insurance is made just the way martins family needs it with hasslefree claims, he got paid before his neighbor even got started. Because doing right by our members, thats whats right. Usaa. What youre made of, were made for. Usaa david you know if you go out in the streets anywhere in america these days you wont see a lot of people out shopping because of the covid restriction s, but going at home, you see a lot of this going on. People going into their iphones or theirimac or whatever they happen to be shopping with and buying stuff online. This is a sign of the times. Time square be shouldertoshoulder in the weekend after thanksgiving and any other year because of the covid restrictions look at it now. Its very very sparselyplated, but Online Shopping was so busy this year, there was a 22 increase from last years Online Shopping. Thats huge, and thats a record 9 billion for black friday alone, so we will be following those sales figures but a huge increase in Online Shopping, not surprising considering the lockdowns and how much everybody is shopping from indoors and remember, theres a Record Number of savings burning a hole in the pockets of a lot of consumers out there. They are allowing some of that money to get out through online sales i just bought a tv yesterday so i was part of it all. Moving on new york democrat congresswoman alexandria ocasiocortez calling on her colleagues to pressure joe biden to wipe out Student Loan Debt of 1. 6 trillion worth through an executive order, but is that possible . And would that just push tuition rates even higher than they are . To former republican president ial candidate and current forbes media chairman, my good friend steve forbes. Steve great to see you thank you for being here. Happy thanksgiving day weekend. I want to talk about the fairness issue of wiping out school debt first, because its something that democrats usually scream about is fairness fairness fairness, but liz warren when she was on a campaign trail back in january she went to iowa confronted by a working class american about the issue of school debt. Take a listen and i want to get your reaction. My daughters getting out of school, i saved all of my money. Am i going to get my money back . Youre going to pay for people who didnt save any money, and those of us who did the right thing get screwed . Of course we did, my buddy and his son bought a car and went on vacations and i saved my money and he made more than i did and i worked a double shift, so youre laughing at me. We did the right thing and we get screwed. I appreciate the feed bam. David wow, that a lot of people think that might have cost her the nomination, steve, but the fact that this guy and millions of other americans work their fingers to the bone, double shift, saving paying off their kids school debt and he says am i going to get my money back . Theres a fairness issue there. Yes, there is david and it makes people who paid their debts, took their obligation seriously look like fools, and if they have this Debt Forgiveness of any kind of scale , youre going to have people wondering why should i pay those obligations and take those extra jobs and why should i sacrifice a private university to go to an instate university to save money, and honor my obligations. So you make a mockery of people who played by the rules and this gets to the big issue which is why are College Tuitions ris ing at four times the rate of inflation the Sticker Price . Why are they rising eight times the cash wages of working americans . Its because the universities are full of bureaucratic obesity the very Government Programs have shown, david that are supposedly helping students instead lead to higher tuitions and the university gets the money, they add administrative costs and the students get stuck and their families get stuck with debt and in some cases rents but with higher debts, so the universities get the money and the students are left holding the bag so you got to stop that corrupt gravy train of more and more money going to universities and students getting stuck with the debt. David the wall street journal says the government subsidizes debt, colleges raise their prices, students are told to get more degrees so you have credential inflation kicking in and taxpayers eat the losses and do they got it right . They do indeed. They are 255 million adults in this country, david, 45 million have student debt, 210 million do not. Why should those 210 million be subsidizing the other 45 million its not right, so they got to get to what the democrats love to cause the root cause, the root cause of the problem is bureaucratic blout, obesity in the universities and they get more and more money, more and more administrative costs not so much for the classrooms and students and the taxpayers get left holding these obligations. Not right. David you know a lot of people say everything depends on the georgia election, if in fact the runoff coming in january, if the democrats dont take both of those seats, both of those senate seats its unlikely that the Biden Administration will get any of this passed through a Republican Senate; however, president obama did a lot in this direction in terms of forgiving debt by just changing the rules. Under obamas rule change borrowers who couldnt afford their Monthly Payments merely had to agree to make 10 of their Discretionary Income for 20 years, over a 20 year period, 10 years by the way if you had public service. Its all kind of wiggle room and 56 of all loans issued to graduate students are now being repaid this way so by more rule changes, biden could essentially do the same thing that obama did , which is a form of debt relief. That be challenged in the court, but you hit a good point. There are already programs in place to help people pay these debts back, taking a percentage of income and so you dont get crushed by it and after 20 25 years in some cases the remaining principal is forgiven, only 43 of graduates are aware of these programs so they could take advantage of those , but they got to get to the really root cause of it and as you know, david, Purdue University, run by Mitch Daniels , has not raised tuition for almost eight years, and a tune university, they have increased the number of tenured professors focus on real administrative management, and that way, the students dont get stuck with these debts, and theyve also got some very innovative programs to help students cope with the low tuitions they already have, and so why cant the rest of the country follow the example of Purdue University . David why cant harvard and yale and others with billion dollar endowments have free tuition . Thats another question for another day. Steve forbes great to see you thank you for coming in appreciate it. Well, once that Pfizer Vaccine gets the goahead how quickly can we get it into our arms . The top doctor on that, coming next. Robinhood believes now is the time to do money. Without the commission fees. So, you can start investing today wherever you are even hanging with your dog. So, what are you waiting for . Download now and get your first stock on us. Robinhood. David with the Holiday Season now in full swing, optimism is rising at multiple covid19 vaccines could be coming very soon. President trump saying they could be available as early as next week, so how long before you, at home, get access to one of these treatments joining me now is John Hopkins University of medicines dr. Anita gupta. Wonderful to see you thank you for coming here. Now just by pfizer and mederna alone there are going to be 40 million doses available before the end of the year. Thats what the warp speed people are telling us. If so, thats an extraordinary history of Quick Development of a vaccine, is it not . Absolutely, and, you know, look. These vaccines are offering significant, significant hope for the nation, but what we have to remember that a vaccine doesnt save lives. You know, vaccinations do, and theres so much work that has to be done right now. We still have a long way to go to turn this vaccine around, and we have to build trust. Pfizer, mederna astrazeneca and oxford vaccines significantly have been a rigourous vaccination effort but there are efforts and needed to build trust as our significant Vaccine Hesitancy that exists right now, and i think that speaks to a lot of questions in society, so we will get there. We will get there. David one of the , you know theres no good time for a pandemic but theres no worse time for a pandemic than during a president ial political campaign, and of course, all the political doubt that was focused from one side or the other about what happens if one side gets a vaccine, cant we put that all aside now . Shouldnt there be a rule, some rule that you cannot use, i was bad enough that it was used as a political weapon in the campaign , but now, of alltimes, i mean, its time to put that aside and everybody get together and say youve got to get your vaccine shot. Yes, i think so. I think so, and look, people will put it aside eventually and what is important to remember that 50 of people in the United States feel that theyre not quite sure, you know, if they will take a vaccine, individuals right now have to remember that vaccines can mitigate this disease, and 65 of the population does need to be vaccinated in order to prevent outbreaks, so no vaccine can prevent anybody from becoming ill. If half the population isnt on board so we still have to go a long way, david and thats the message that needs to get out there in the public that vaccinations can be effective, if we can get them to the people but that vaccination strategy, here in the next few weeks, it needs to build trust, and well get there in due time. David well its going to take an effort. I have a lot of antivaccers that i know or people in my family, im not personally but somehow we have to get the message off. A lot of people are weary of science right now and thats because science is a new virus, the covid virus its called a virus for a reason because it is new so people keep changing their minds on whats right on masks, whats wrong on lockdowns , et cetera, but there are certain ways in which politicians are defying the science and one of those are on School Closing. Politicians coming out and saying that they have to close the schools because of outbreak. Is there any evidence, ive not seen any scientific study, suggesting that School Openings hasten infections of covid. Have you . No, not at this point. I mean, what we do know is that there are a lot of parents that are nervous, and i think that that raises the question, you know, of whether or not well we doing Clinical Trials robust ly in children with these vaccinations and this is yet to be determined. I think a lot of parents want to know what the data will look like and whether or not how that distribution will occur in children. Im a parent too and certainly these questions are going to come up in the next few months and i know many of the companies , pfizer, mederna astrazeneca will be looking at how they do these Clinical Trials in children and certainly looking for that information in the next few months. David i have to tell you of course everything is anecdotal but i see far more parents that are upset at School Closing than are concerned about their kids getting covid at school. Right, right, i mean, i am. Many parents want their kid back in school because of the issues about socialization, particularly inflations that are underserved and the issue about digital, the digital divide, access to computers and equity, these are concerns for everyone right now, and certainly, we want the best for our children. David we do indeed. Dr. Gupta, great to see you thank you for your work we appreciate it. Thank you. David appreciate you coming in as well. 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On friday, in a tweet, the president continued his false claims that the president ial election was rigged against him in georgia while using his, urging rather, his supporters not to boycott the january 5 Runoff Election both Democratic Candidates john osoff and reverend Raphael Warnock are running highly competitive campaigns against their republican components and with control of the senate at stake both parties are picking up their ground game with plans to knockon hundreds of thousands of doors to get out to vote. What we have in georgia is a huge advantage in our ground game. The work that has been done over the last 10 years to register voters and build infrastructure and organize capacity, volunteer recruitment, we are putting all of that to work. This will be a president ial level ground game in georgia it already is. We will add over 1,000 direct employees doing nothing but making sure we get our vote out but weve already proven that in georgia is not turning blue yet. And republicans can only hope President Trump says he plans on holding a Campaign Style rally when he campaigns here next saturday. Details about that are unclear at the moment, david . David in atlanta Charles Watson thank you very much, pleased for that report. Meanwhile a top iranian scientist has been killed on friday in an apparent ambush attack and now iran is casting blame on israel. What the u. S. Is doing in response to it all, thats next. This is andy, my schwab financial consultant. Heres andy listening to my goals and making plans. This is us talking taxsmart investing, managing risk, and all the ways schwab can help me invest. This is andy reminding me how i can keep my investing costs low and that theres no fee to work with him. Heres me learning about schwabs satisfaction guarantee. Accountability, i like it. So, yeah. Andy and i made a good plan. Find your own andy at schwab. A modern approach to wealth management. David well, if you thought that the antipolice riots that we saw here in the spring were limited to the United States, youre darn wrong. I mean, all over europe, youre seeing riots like what youre looking at in paris right now whereas many as 90,000 protester s from all around the country have descended on to paris shutting down all of the Tourist Attractions from the eiffel tower and these riots are creating tremendous problem for the city of paris and of course already as the rest of the world reeling from covid problems. Theyre chanting police everywhere, justice nowhere again it sounds very similar to what we saw here in the spring. We wish them the best. Meanwhile the pentagon deploying the Aircraft Carrier uss nimits to the middle east region at a time when iran is accusing israel of assassinating its Top Nuclear Scientist so why should we watch these rising tensions closely well ask retired air fort lt. General david deptula. Good to see you general thanks for being here. First of all who was this guy and how important was he to the Nuclear Arms Race in iran . Well, david, this person was irans Top Nuclear Scientist. He was essentially irans version of Robert Oppenheimer who is the father of the first u. S. Atopic bomb and he was running their covert effort to develop Nuclear Weapon s. David now hes been in israel sites for a while it was 2018 when Prime MinisterBenjamin Netanyahu brought out a picture of the guy and said remember his name, i mean, that was pretty much of a blatant threat to the guy, and then last week, he had a very interesting meeting between our secretary of state pompeo in israel with the Prime Minister and also the head of mosad, thats their intelligence service. I be shocked if something about this was not discussed there. Well, i tell you, david, i prefer not to speculate on who did it as there are as many possibilities as there are nations threatened by irans Nuclear Weapons aspirations, so, its a little bit dicey to do that and the point is its not who did it but the fact of the matter is this action will certainly be a setback to irans Nuclear Weapons development program, but unfortunately, it wont stop it as theres a cadre of Nuclear Scientists in iran but itll certainly slow down the program and put those in its development on notice. David well you cant get inside other peoples heads, youre quite right not to speculate on that. On the other hand you dont have to be a scientist to understand people in the United States with this administration, the trump adminitration, people in israel, with the Benjamin Netanyahu administration are worried, concerned about a return to an iranian deal that many people thought was an appeasement of the iranians rather than really a pushback against their Nuclear Deployment and capabilities. Yeah, i think its also important to remember that as different as President Trump s approach was from obamas and will be from bidens, their goals were essentially the same and thats iran without Nuclear Weapons but youre right. This event could have implications for the incoming Biden Administration as it might lessen the likelihood of negotiating a restoration of the joint comprehensive plan of action or jcpoa deal, or toughening its terms. Regardless, though, i think iran should not think that dealing with biden will be all smooth sailing. David well, lets hope theres pushback, because appeasement with a regime like iran gets you know where, on the other hand, what im concerned about also are these historic Abraham Accords between arab nations and israel without the Palestinian Authority as a blocking middle man, which they often did. These accords, i think, a lot of the accord had to do with the fact that we got rid of the iran deal, which scared the heck out of a lot of arab states who view iran as their biggest enemy and thats what brought them to the table, to deal with israel. If we go back to the iranian deals does that endanger the Abraham Accords between arab states and israel . Well i think you make an excellent point which gets back to my, you know, theres a lot of people here who in the states and the region and in people who dont want to see iran equipped with Nuclear Weapons so the real key here is iran in negotiating to simply reinstate the jcpoa be a huge mistake, as it never dealt with the fundamental issue of iran terminating its efforts to build Nuclear Weapons. I would tell you, and the audience, that its in the best interest of iran, its people and the rest of the world for iran to shift its Nuclear Weapons effort to the Economic Development of its people and its nation and any future agreement has to have that end state as its goal. David well the coalition, if were going to really consider iran as a Nuclear Threat, a Nuclear Threat to the survival not just of israel but of arab nations around israel and eventually the United States itself, we have to think in terms of alliances, and alliance s that in the past were thought to be impossible. In fact john kerry whose going to be a part of this new administration said in 2017 that we would never have an agreement between arab states and israel without the Palestinian Authority in the middle. He was dead wrong. We had it. Weve had it with several nations. They were even trying to do it with the Saudi Arabians although its not clear that worked out but the point is we need an alliance against iran in order to prevent them from getting a nuclear bomb, right . Youre spot on and i think the Abraham Accords are a step in the right direction to strengthen that kind of alliance its also a good example of why one should never say never. The fact of the matter is we need to put together an alliance that does five things. Negotiates with iran from strength, doesnt include any preset sunset clauses, puts comprehensive back into that joint comprehensive plan of action and conditions sanctions relief, not just promise it up front and then lay down clear red lines that iran cannot cross without consequences. David general deptula great to see you thanks for coming in today i appreciate it. Well, forget just banning indoor and Outdoor Dining. Los angeles is now telling everyone to stayathome, lock the door well go there live, for the very latest and why a new tesla semi truck could bring changes to america and the car industry everywhere, thats coming up in the next hour. Smooth driving pays off you never been in better hands allstate click or call for a quote today. Youre looking at live shots of los angeles where a brand new stayathome order is going to be kicking in on monday. It comes after a ban on not only indoor, but also Outdoor Dining, even though the citys Health Department released scientific studies showing no link to dining outside and the surge in covid cases. Christina coleman is live with the latest on this, hi. Hi, david, yeah. California is launching stricter covid guidelines. As of monday people will be banned from public and private gatherings with people from outside of their home. And l. A. County residents are advised to stay home as much as they can and to always wear a face mask that covers their nose and mouth when theyre outside. It does not include faithbased Services Since theyre constitutionally protected. But its a limit on essential, nonessential retail, personal care like salons and libraries and businesses operating outdoors, fitness centers, museums and zoos and golf and cart racing capped at 50 . L. A. Restaurants were ordered to close their Outdoor Dining. The California Restaurant Association strongly opposed the decision saying that Public Health officials didnt provide Scientific Evidence to prove Outdoor Dining has caused this dramatic spike in covid case ins california. Many Restaurant Owners fear this new order will put them out of business. Right now the closure is for three weeks, but we know that will extend through new years. And it will probably put me out of business forever. The local Health Officials say the new restrictions are necessary. As of yesterday the u. S. Saw 17 Straight Days of record covid hospitalizations. The u. S. Has now topped 13 million covid cases and 264,000 americans have died from this virus. Here in l. A. County, the fiveday average of new infections hit 4,751 yesterday. More than meeting the threshold county officials set for putting this new stayathome order in place and now its set to be in place for three weeks. Its not as strict as the shutdowns were here in california back in the spring. Many businesses are still allowed to stay open, however, at limited capacity. David. David its tough. When you hear that restaurant owner, it pulls your heart when you hear from people like him. And take a look at louisville, kentucky. You might not think that kentucky would have similar policies of california. But that state a banning indoor dining. My next guest owns a cafe there and he says hes going to stay open despite the order. And his attorney joins us now. Richard, our sympathies go to you. We hear of people putting their whole lives in their business and talking about the possibility of losing those businesses because of the lockdown. Is there any case, any covid19 case that can be traced back from one of your customers to your restaurant specifically . Nothing that weve heard at all, david. We have not had any background, any local authority or other person about that kind of thing in our restaurant. David so what evidence then is the government presenting to justify the lockdown . Thats the ironic thing about this all. You know, we have cases where theres a large case county and, but where exactly are those coming from . Our restaurants, the result of these. You know, and so some of the arbitrariness of the rules that are going and being put in place on Small Business owners like myself are we dont see with are those where the data is to support those decisions. So, chris, to whom are you making your case . Well, you know, i think the my guess is theres enforcement options that we made and looking at a criminal prosecution if thats what they criminal . Thats unfortunate, theyve yanked his food permit. If it goes there there will ab jury trial, a group of citizens from the community and you know, my intention would be to put the governors orders on trial. David but, chris, you know that trials we are a country that brags of speedy justice, but sometimes these things can drag on for months. Im just thinking, richard, its either way, youre going to get stabbed because either you shut down and you lose money in your business or you go to court and it could drag on for court and youd also lose your business. Right. Those jobs are important, theyre vital. This is the time of year when my employees and they need that work and in order to continue to operate in a safe hygienic environment, you know, we need to remain open and where are we going past that . You know, once i just listened to your report about l. A. County. Well, you know, to move our patrons from the inside, sanitary dining room, thats licensed and inspected into an outdoor area, and then, what happens to the outdoor area . Is that going to be the next thing thats closed . And so, it just seems to be a matter of time before Small Businesses are just affected more and more and made to submit to these orders that just seem arbitrary. Yeah, and a lot of particularly when you have the l. A. Health department quoting a study in support of outdoor restaurants that denies theres a connection between Outdoor Dining and any covid outbreak. Let me tell you you have a powerful, sympathetic ear listening to your problem and thats President Trump. He tweeted out the Restaurant Business is being absolutely decimated. Congress should step up and help time is of the essence. Is the Problem Congress in the providing enough help or not letting you do your business . You know, i think that we have enough data. Weve gone far enough down this trail this year that people are able to make their own decisions. You know, if they want to come and they want to step into an airplane and eat, or they want to come into my restaurant and eat, theres many different options available and nobody is forced to do any of these things and i believe that, you know, we need to rally around the Small Business owner, those restauranteurs and those people out there and encourage the public to dine in, take out, carry out, whatever they need to do and whatever they feel comfortable with in order to continue the employment of these people, and sometimes its often a vulnerable type of staffing that is employed, too. You know, they dont have some big nest egg. The Restaurant Industry is not inherently filled with those that have, you know, a 401 k . And so its important that they continue to work. David by the way, forgive me, but it sounds as though you have a canadian accent. Im just wondering if youre an immigrant to the United States from canada and if so, if you were hoping that this is there was more the land of opportunity, more opportunity here than when you came from . Yes, sir, there is much opportunity in this country and were experiencing and revelling and enjoying that and you know, i am 25 american, i guess, my grandmother i am greated. She was a buchanan and they live in the midwest and we have a long heritage and connection to this country and we are hoping to make our way and as this land and live that American Dream that is available. David chris, finally, let us name names. Because a lot of these decisions, the Governor Cuomo said, you know, anybody who defies our orders is a dictator because theyre defining what many of these decisions are not laws. Theyre not codifying by a legislator, theyre edicts and isnt that the way to attack them in court . We will definitely make that argument, i think, to a jury when it comes to it and frankly, you know, the Kentucky Legislature has not been in session since march. Theyre coming back january 5th and theres every indication theres going to be heck to pay to the governor for stuff hes been doing. David by the way, we did put a call in to the Kentucky Governor and waiting to hear back and we havent heard from him as of yet. And thank you, gentlemen, we wish you the very best. Richard, hang in there, youve definitely got the entrepreneurial spirit, thats why you came here and why you deserve to have that business remain, certainly your employees deserve it as well. Thank you. David worried about taking that Covid Vaccine . How about a 1500 check if you take it . Would that change your mind . Meet the normal president ial candidate pushing for this shot in your arm and a shot in your wallet as well. Would it work . Well debate it coming up. 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As i said last hour on the show, david, you know, the vraciu vaccine is economic stimulus so we want the americans vaccinated from this terrible virus, but i dont think that we should be paying people to take it. For goodness takes, 1500 for 200, 300 Million People . The cost of that would be so astronomical and the fact is, americans are rational and they can make their own decisions about this. Some people will not take the vaccine, but i bet tens and tens of millions of people will do it and they dont need the government to pay them to do it. David dan i was scratching figures out of my head. If 300 million americans are giving 1500 each for a vaccine i think thats about 450 billion dollars. I mean, you know, again, its chump change compared to what theyre willing to spend on the Green New Deal and the other stuff. Its just like throw money at a problem and its going to fix it. That doesnt work. Youre exactly right, david. The exact total here is for everyone over 18 to get this vaccine under this 1500 incentive plan. Its 383 billion dollars, not that that kind of Money Matters to anybody in washington, but its still ridiculous. Now, you know where delaney got this idea from . He got it from india where in india they with the two shots, the first shot you got lentils, the second shot you got plates and they claimed that that increased the willingness of people to get the vaccine by six times. Maybe it will work, but it doesnt resolve the issue of, 1500 oh, im not certain. Maybe this is going to kill me. You know what . I dont ka care ill still take the 1500. And there are disincentives for not taking it. And were seeing european nation taking vaccine standards, travel, you cant come into this area or travel unless you have on your passport a stamp that you had a vaccine. You cant get a job unless you have the same stamp. What do you think about the disincentives for not taking a shot . So, certainly, weve already discussed the pertinent players even in the United States could potentially require workers to take this vaccine. So, i think that that is used in combination of carrot and sticks. But i think the 1500 misses the point that right now most polls that a little over the half the americans are willing to take the vaccine. We really need to target, how do we convert that 25 of the population over 18 to and so when you look at the people that are most hesitant, it typically is more within minorities, so it might be carrots within tax breaks, but not necessarily cash. Other ways to get around it to address those most needy and hesitant. David and what other nations are threatening, the uglier side is getting sick and dying, but weve seen the ugly policy of authoritarian instinct out of a lot of public leaders, what you can and cannot do a lot of them not based on science, a lot of them flying in the face of science, in terms of Outdoor Dining and lockdowns, how much harm that can cause. Isnt that part of the problem the people who want to give the vaccinations are having, theres been so much abuse of science on the part of Public Officials, its making it difficult to its going to make it difficult to get the vaccine around . Well said, david. I agree with that. I think americans are skeptical of what, quote, the science is because whats happened is science has become so politicized, right . I mean, science today has become whatever study the left wants, it confirms their beliefs and you see that by the way with lockdowns, youre exactly right. One lesson weve learned pretty firmly the last nine, 10 months lockdowns havent really made much of a difference at all in terms of the violence. And stats that locked down i listened to your interview, all of these restaurants shut down and stores, millions of people being laid off again, that isnt science, thats Public Policy. David i feel when history looks back at the way that we behaved during this theyre not going to speak very kindly of Public Officials and contradicted their own orders or people within their own state. You see this feud between Governor Cuomo in new york and the mayor deblasio giving contradictory orders with regard to schools and et cetera and so many finger pointing and the way it was politicized particularly by the democrats who essentially were blaming President Trump for a virus that came from china. Historically were going to look back at this and its going to be a story line from something out of a Twilight Zone and as far as scaring people, you have to look at John Delaneys party, it was the democrats who were planting that seed to scare people and that was fueled by the mainstream media. Its just the way it is. So, of course people are going to be skeptical whether this vaccine is going to work because its the quote, unquote, trump vaccine. Forget the fact that were going to be giving this to our frontline workers first and foremost to make sure theyre safe. So, its good enough to protect them, why wouldnt it protect the public in general . Look, we need a Campaign Going the other way from the mainstream media. David its hard to predict what historians are going to say, but i have a feeling that operation warp speed is going to go down well in history certainly a lot better than Public Policy officials who are now taking credit for the great actions which i dont think that history is going to record as that great. Have a good weekend all. Thank you very much. Thanksgiving turkey not the only thing pardoned this week and he pardoned his former National Security advisor Michael Flynn and the move is ruffling the feathers of a lot of democrats. Was this the right move . Could more pardons be coming . Priceline works with top hotels, to save you up to 60 . These are all great. And when you get a big deal. You feel like a big deal. Priceline. Every trip is a big deal. And youre looking live at philadelphia, pennsylvania, where the election legal challenges continue. Trump campaign lawyers now indicating they will go to the Supreme Court to appeal a court decisiondy missing their case in pennsylvania. Kevin corke is in d. C. With the latest on this. Hi, kevin. David, youre right the judge says you can call it unfair, but there has to be specif specif specifics, and if you talk to Trump Campaign officials, thats where they expected it to end up at some point. Listen to what Kayleigh Mcenany had to say. Its an equal protection argument the one weve been making in court, it says if you were in the seven blue counties in pennsylvania you were given an extraordinary opportunity to fix your mailin ballot, to cure your ballot. If you were in the other 60 mainly republican counties you cant get that privilege. Thats an equal protection violation. So thats what kale leigh mcenany said earlier. And we know that republican lawmakers in the commonwealth of pennsylvania have introduced an a resolution to dispute the 2020 Election Results and recognizes substantial irregularities and impropriet improprieti improprieties, and i just point out this last week was a busy one not just for the trump administration, but also for the transition team. I can tell you this about the president , he did raise a few eyebrows by finally granting a pardon to his former National Security advisor Michael Flynn and i think, advisedly, youll keep in mind that the doj wanted to drop the charges and had this case summarily dismissed and the judge, Emmett Sullivan added hurdles along the way so finally the president did pardon his former National Security advisor. David thanks for i can ma thanks for making the transition to our next segment, calling Michael Flynn corrupt and abuse of power. And they say the what the fbi did was abuse of power. Who is right . And playing it right down the middle, jim, great to see you, thank you for being here. Lets start with what i call the entrapment of general flynn. I was looking for a perjury trap with him and extraordinary misconduct by the fbi, a lot of which was discovered by general flynns relatively new attorney, sidney pallow, gotten into the news, but she uncovered a hornets nest, didnt she . She did. She took an aggressive approach and in the beginning i wasnt sure how that was going to play out. Most the time when a defendant in federal court tries it withdraw a guilty plea it fails and fails miserably, you dont only lose the motion, but penalized under the guidelines and turns out to be a bad moment. I was jaded where this was going to go. It turns out most of her accusations are spot on. If you read the motion to dismiss, it lays out a tale of misconduct to the fbi and carries through to the case with judge sullivan. And she was right and released her kraken in the case of the doj. David the doj that you just mentioned wanted to wait, they didnt want a pardon, they wanted a court dismissal, they thought such strong evidence part of which was brought out by sydney powell. And the president didnt want to wait on a judge, particularly a judge so critical to general flynns argument in the past. Who was right here . Was the doj right, should we have waited longer or the president right to pull the plug and say im not going to wait on a court system i dont trust anymore . I think theyre both a little right. Its kind of unknowable. This motion was filed six and a half months ago and usually the motion to dismiss lives the judge in a ministerial road, and stamp it, and they make that clearwell. So this was a crazy situation. A couple of months ago, judge sullivan was questioning sydney powell in one of the many Court Proceedings and said have you talked to the white house about a pardon . I think that was a tell. If i dont have to dismiss this case im going to dig in itten wait it out. We had the standoff that ensued and i think the president finally got tired of the game. Im going to pardon now. David i think youre right. Meanwhile, the election challenges going on right now. And the pennsylvania decision is going to go to the Supreme Court, that augered against the president. What is the Supreme Court going to hear specifically is this what arguments will they hear from the president s attorneys . Kayleigh mentioned the equal, how its sent out and violates the equal process. But they said its not the secretary of state its the about the counties, there are a variety of procedural obstacles. I have to tell i think the shift in pennsylvania, i think we should shift our attention to the case by filed by congressman kelly and others and got traction with the state judge issuing a preliminary injunction that says theres a likelihood of success on the merits, the have he fine area, kind of clean state constitutional question whether they could change the rules on absentee ballots. I think that one is on a fast track now being appealed by the democrats to the state Supreme Court and that could be a powerful moment. Keep your eyes on that one and on the georgia federal case. David the georgia case, thats the kraken suit, am i right . A lot of people have been focused on pennsylvania. Well, kraken is a mythological no, i wont do kraken, the suit, a complaint filed by sydney powell on behalf of various individuals who claim their votes are deprived. Its everything. Dominion talking about the software issue, its talking about absentee ballot fraud, about crisp, clean ballots showing up that dont like like they could of been in the mail. Its got every kind of fraud allegation you can imagine of a magnitude where if its believed it can make a difference in the election and georgia has an electoral challenge law thats kind of friendly to the plaintiff. It says if it affects the outcome or casts substantial doubt, i think the phrasing is on the outcome. So, this is a wellpled document, its got a lot in it and i would say watch with unthing about the question, state farm marina whether they shut down for a fake water leak. Shes trying to get the judge to order security footage and if that shows up, that could be a yeah, well, 74 million voted for donald trump and a lo the of them feel cheated and disenfranchised. Well, calls growing dpor more covid19 stimulus when lawmakers return to d. C. Before they do, should they look how thousands of prisoners in california just scannmmed Coronavirus Relief funds out of hundreds of millions of your tax dollars. They were able to give me a personal loan so i could pay off all of my credit cards. I got my mortgage through sofi and the whole process was so easy. Choosing sofi was literally one of the best decisions i could have ever made because it gave me peace of mind. Well, time is running out for congress to pass another stimulus bill as millions of americans, i call it relief bill. Millions of americans are set to lose jobless benefits by the end of the year. This as thousands of california inmates are charged with filing fraudulent claims for the relief bill including scott peterson. Should lawmakers be careful with the next round of relief. Joining us, Kelly Highman and lauren, what is holding unthe relief . Well, whats holding up the relief right now is Nancy Pelosis insistence that we have a much larger package than what the secretary the treasury secretary or Mitch Mcconnell in the senate think is needed for the next round of relief and frankly holding up before the election and that she didnt want donald trump to have a win. And Mitch Mcconnell indicated a smaller, more targeted program that would use existing funds allocated and havent been distributed yet and much more targeted unemployment relief and he thinks would make the most impact on americans lives as we get through the virus before the vaccine can be distributed. David whats wrong with this breaking this multitrillion dollar thing up into pieces that everybody can agree on like extending ppp for the Small Business owners. Its important for us to help the American People. We have to remember that the heroes bill was passed in the house of representative in may, but rather the senate, rather than focus on that, they were more concerned pushing through a nomination to the Supreme Court where people were struggling personally, professionally and family and so well, no, it wasnt that. It was that they disagreed with the amount of money and where it was going that not all was going for covid relieve. Thats the reason na the republicans balked at the initial offering by democrats. Well, we can agree to disagree, you know. I think its important to help the American People that are struggling, and as i said before it passed through the house and the senate should have passed something to help people, because people, you know, are struggling. David you didnt answer my initial question, why not just focus on things everybody can agree on so that you can get the money out there as quick as possible, like an extension to ppp for Small Business . Right, you know, i think its important to help people, but i think its important to have a complete package, and to make sure that theyre okay, but absolutely, we should move forward to help people as soon as possible definitely and there should be some kind of agreement and Work Across Party Lines and help people, it shouldnt be political issue it should be helping people and as soon as we help people we should definitely do it, absolutely. David now that the election is over, i mean, we can make maybe these deals to at least get out pieces that everybody agrees on. The problem though with these multitrillion dollar plans, whenever the government spends a billion dollars let alone a trillion dollars youre going to have waste, not just waste, but real abuse. When you hear stories about money going out to prisoners, money thats supposed to be going out to working americans, that bothers a lot of americans, including me, i dont want my taxpayer money going to the wrong place. Yeah, i mean, the system in california where they werent cross matching if people applying for aid were in prison is just atrocious. Luckily 35 states have programs that actually flag that. Its not just the issue in california that weve seen with the fraud and the waste. Anytime you have a government program, the government does not do this type of stuff very well, and weve seen over 145 Million Dollars get scammed out of the money thats been sent out. And thats just one estimate, i think from the ftc. The fbi is investigating claims right now and the fraud is widespread if were sending out money. Especially if the treasure wants to send out blanket checks again which helped a lot of people. Im not saying it shouldnt happen, but there needs to be more safeguards in place, they sent them out to people who werent alive anymore and wrong addresses and the system, the distribution was horrible. What is going to impact peoples lives . Whats going to make the biggest difference in getting through these last couple of months . Because weve seen unemployment claims pick up since the past couple of months because more lockdowns are taken in place and the relief measures in place like ppp expired so now is the time to revisit this. But instead of Nancy Pelosis hero act that they put together in may, they focused on getting money to the states for Election Security issues and absentee ballots. They probably need to revisit that and look at what are the distribution issues with the vaccine. David kelly, thats the point. The situation has changed since the first heroes act came out. We now have the vaccines coming online and at least four or five of them. Its going to be a huge endeavor. Weve never done anything like this before, but of course, never shut down the government like we did through covid. Shouldnt we be refocusing on how to deal with the vaccine and get this country back to work 100 . Absolutely. David hold on a second, thats for kelly, go ahead, kelly. Absolutely. I think you bring up a really good point. We need to tell people struggling, personally, professionally and family and definitely, you know, help them especially with the vaccine as well and make sure that people can get back to, would and they dont lose their homes, and they have food on their table. Absolutely, we need to move this country forward. David i think we can all agree on that kelly and lauren, thank you, appreciate it. Today is Small Business saturday and the local shop owners are counting on it more than ever to survive the pandemic restrictions. One of those entrepreneurs joining us live from her shop in texas. Thats next. Well, today marks the 11th annual Small Business saturday and its more important now than ever as Small Businesses struggle to stay afloat in the face of the pandemic and the restrictions trying to contain it. My next guest owns a store in austin, texas and is worried that many Small Businesses will not survive. And owner mary anne benson, kind of crazy kids. I believe youve been open more than 18 years, is that right . Yes, it is. David wow, tell me how business was doing before covid and now after the lockdowns. Well, before covid i had, have still a Loyal Customer base that i built through the years and business was pretty much status quo, but fine. Then covid hit and everything changed. David you have four employees, as i understand it. Are they all out of work right now or what . Not we were mandated closed to are three months and theyre parttime workers and they came back working parttime again. Not as many hours, my hours are shortened because of lack of traffic and now i have expanded again. David so that is a problem. A lot of people, its not just the fact that businesses are ordered to close and having trouble reopening, the customers arent dont feel comfortable walking the streets as they used to so you probably dont have as many walkins, right . Thats correct. Thats correct. When we reopened i might see one person each day although i attempted to do facetiming or curbside, anything that anyone needed or wanted to feel safe was not wellreceived at that point because many people in this area werent ready to leave their home. David now, did you apply for and receive ppp money, the Paycheck Protection Program . I applied for the money. According to the formula, i thought i was going to get more than i did. I only got a tiny bit of money because i dont pay myself, i dont write myself a check. So live and learn, that was a big mistake because i got next to nothing. David a lot of people, Small Businesses like your own, were labeled nonessential businesses and but theres something that really grinds against the nature of the way america operates, to consider a business like yours that you survive on nonessential. Does that bother you . Oh, boy, did it ever. When i realized that target and walmart and the Hardware Store across the street, which has the full array of giftware and tiny little childrens area, could be open because they either had groceries or hardware, and i was not able to, i was very upset about that because of that situation. And didnt understand why they didnt cordon off part of their stores. I called the Mayors Office to request that request he. I did receive a call back and that didnt change anything. David by the way, your program is more with the local government and the state government. The two kids i just saw in the picture. I dont think they think your business is not essential. I believe that they believe at least you have three people there who think youre an essential business and i certainly think youre essential as well. Mary anne, we wish you the very best. Thank you. David thank you for coming on, i appreciate it. Thank you. David thank you. Coming up, why a semi truck from elon musk could change the way we all drive. Well explain what were talking about. Thats coming next. We made usaa insurance for veterans like martin. When a hailstorm hit, he needed his insurance to get it done right, right away. Usaa. What youre made of, were made for. Usaa i was covered from head to toe with it. It really hurt. Then i started cosentyx. Okay, thanks. That was four years ago. How are you . See me. Cosentyx works fast to give you clear skin that can last. Real people with psoriasis look and feel better with cosentyx. Dont use if youre allergic to cosentyx. Before starting, get checked for tuberculosis. 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Where is he going to plug his truck in . The infrastructure is not in place yet. If you ask me, i think five years away. Im a new car dealer and obviously, tesla is a threat to the marketplace. I have to tell you, listen, i think that this will go on the automobile side if he doesnt do this truck and be successful with this truck thing, i think the automobile side is on the roast. You have mercedes benz, bmw and lexis connelling out with evs by the end of 2021. Im not sure that tesla competes with them. They dont have the repair infrastructure, ne dont have the charging structures in place. A lot to do to stay in place. Clearly he makes things bigger than they are, thats where he is, a salesman, if he can pull it off, i think its amazing for the trucking business, i was in the bucking tris, the warehousing business and i understand it and i get it a lot of these trucks go cross country. You know, 621 mile range, youve got to stop five times and charge your truck and youve got to have a place to do that. David right. You talk about that problem and theres the problem what would happen to the country if we already see these rolling blackouts in california. Yeah. David because of the current demand, but if every american had an electric vehicle that they had to charge, that would put an enormous strain on our power grids. I dont know if the power grids could take it. Yes, and listen, when people when you peel back the onion, listen, a great idea. I think it makes a lot of sense, i think were five years away a minimum for the infrastructure to get up and rolling. I think its pretty optimistic. In order to create eek trick youve got to furn fossil fuel. There are things out there the next big boom. Its just like technology. Apple comes out with an iphone and samsung comes out with a better way. And i think some things, hydro again fuel cell and Technology Building fork lifts and trucks that run on hydrogen. Listen, i think its a great idea and i think that he will get it up and running. The request he, how long is it going to take and where is the infrastructure to support it. The other thing we havent begun to talk about, gavin newsom the governor of california declared in 15 years it will be illegal for folks like you to sell gas powered cars. Thats correct. David theres no way of telling what the world, let alone the United States is going to look like in 15 years, we may not have the power grid. We may not have the capacity to do what he wants to do, but theyre changing the rules anyway. Tom, its a tough world to work out there, but you managed a handy profit out of doing it. Good to see you. Good to see you, too. Neil cavuto will be back on monday right here at 4 p. M. Eastern time. You dont want to miss neil. Cyber monday is expected to shatter all records. 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