Transcripts For FOXNEWSW Cavuto Live 20190921

Im neil cavuto. This is cavuto live. Lets begin with Mark Meredith in washington with a tale of two stories not exactly getting equal coverage. President trump is denying any wrongdoing after reports surfaced yesterday that the president pressured ukraines leader to investigate joe biden and his son who once served on a board of directors in a Natural Gas Company in the region. The president was asked about his recent conversations with ukraine. He didnt confirm or deny that he spoke about biden his potential 2020 rival. Ive had conversations with many leaders, always appropriate. I think scott can tell you that. Always appropriate. At the highest level, always appropriate. Its just another political hack job. Thats all it is. The president this morning says the focus should be on biden, not him. The president had a lengthy tweet this morning in which he said quote the Fake News Media and their partner the Democrat Party want to stay as far away as possible from the joe biden demand that the Ukrainian Government fire a prosecutor who was investigating his son or wont get a large amount of u. S. Money so they fabricated a story about me and perfectly fine and routine conversation i had with the new president of ukraine. Biden spoke about his past runins with ukraine who denied any wrongdoing even though the president himself has highlighted clips of bidens past remarks on the issue. Not one single credible outlet has given any credibility to his assertion, not one single one. Im telling you you are not getting a billion. Im going to be leaving here. I think it was what six hours. I said im leaving in six hours. The prosecutor is not fired. You are not getting the money. Got fired. Democrats are demanding the president tried to get more dirt on biden from ukraine. Lawmakers say they also want to know more about a National Security whistleblower who raised concerns about president ial conversations. Democrats have been demanding to see the persons complaint, neil. But so far that has not happened. Neil . Neil thank you very very much. Mark meredith on all of that. Theres a lot of questions being raised on both fronts here. But were not exactly hearing reporting on much of both incidents what to make of that with new york city councilman, democratic strategist and a host of sincerely kat on fox nation. The concern that a lot of republicans have had is that whats good for the goose doesnt necessarily apply well to the gander. Whatever that means. But there is a valid point here about its questionable the president of the United States to urge a leader of another country to look into a guy who wants to be a leader of this country and i get that, and the concern to get to the bottom of that but no concern about when a guy wants to be a leader of this country was doing when he was the second highest elected official in this country in ukraine. Thats why i dont understand the medias coverage of this. Joe biden was actually the Vice President. If you listen to his own words, which you just had on the screen, he admits essentially to a quid pro quo involving u. S. Taxpayer dollars, a billion dollars of it in response to the ukrainians firing a prosecutor fire a prosecutor that was investigating a company which his son had a financial interest. Neil just to be clear, this prosecutor at the time was looking a lot at things and there was concern about government corruption. This made it seem or the trump folks are trying to say this made it seem like a quid pro quo deal to ease the pressure on his son, who was a board member of one of these Gas Companies being sure. Again you heard the Vice President s words. I think the democrats are really risking one of those coyote moments where they think they have the president and more information about biden may come out and more information about the scandal they reported back in 2017 about the ukrainians potentially helping clinton during the 16 election. There is a lot of land mines for the democrats to fall on. Neil im trying hard not to play the politics game with this, jessica. There are a fair number of questions being raised on both cases and both should be examined. What i do notice in the coverage is that it is not thats because the joe biden story has actually already been covered. So the story was a New York Times piece and ken vogel is riding on his piece which has been thoroughly debunked. Hunter biden was the board of Natural Gas Company, ukrainian Natural Gas Company. Neil why was he on the board . Any Energy Experience . No, i believe and it was john kerrys son had a Consulting Company or a hedge fund. Neil no background in energy and his father is the Vice President. Thats not what im here to debate. Neil go ahead. Im to put out the time line of this. The prosecutor, the corrupt one, if you talk to any anticorruption activist in the country, they will say that he was a tremendous and thats what biden was talking about when he said he needed to be fired. Neil he was investigating among other things all Energy Countries with the contract. The investigation into the company that biden was on the board of closed in 2015. Joe biden arrived in ukraine to put that threat in there in 2016. Neil i believe he was looking at 11 company contracts. Present or past at the time. That is not the reporting neil im not here to exonerate or blame anyone, jessica. Im just saying you are doing a time line to vindicate the Vice President at the time and no connection or curiosity between one of them and another. But the f the investigation but if the investigation neil people are taking the leap with President Trump that he is. The president is alleging which he absolutely is and Rudy Giuliani whatever kind of language he was using with cuomo the other evening that President Biden was doing this to bail out his son. It does matter that the prosecutor was not looking into the company that hunter biden was on the board of. This is alleging that joe biden did this to bail out his son. I just think that in general the way this is all being reported on is wrong and its not the way that i look at things. Im concerned about all of this, no matter what side youre on. I think that people should be better at looking at instances as americans, rather than as members of a political party. Neil i have taken the time to look into both controversies and the time line. Im more up on these Energy Contracts than you might think. And i think theres fair fodder there to look into the timing, you can say the investigation of the prosecutor was done, but the follow up investigation involved almost a dozen other Ukrainian Energy concerns one of which had, you know, joe bidens son on the board. Now im not saying theres a quid pro quo or that he would do anything nefarious, just as im not going to leap to conclusions on these allegations about the president. What i will ask you, kat, this issue involving the president raises serious concerns that he was using once again a foreign power to potentially influence another election. And im looking at only that for the time being to say right now in this environment that doesnt look good for the president. Absolutely not. I completely agree with that. I want to know more about this situation, but the reason i want to know more about it is because i want to know more about all the situations. I dont trust anyone in the government, regardless of political party. Neil i trust joe. I was going to say except for bill de blasio. A real shame to see him out, i thought he was going to take it all the way. Neil more time to take care of new york. Or to mess things up. The more transparency we have, regardless of party, the better decisions we can make as voters. It is not a good look. Do i think it is going to take him down . No. I also think that the democrats motivations for wanting to know more about this are not the same as mine. I think their motivations are they want to take trump out. Neil this is where the politics coming in and trying hard not to do that and i credit jessica with trying to be very careful about one thing or the other. Joe, the one thing i will raise, if you are the white house, and you just survived this Mueller Report or hope you have, and they are doing this kind of stuff, maybe perfectly valid reasons like hey, the media is covering up this story involving joe biden, and you are upset, i get it; right . But you dont do this. I know in giuliani this interview on cnn argued it is perfectly fine and legal. It was a shamed to see Rudy Giuliani to be trashed and by quoting bidens own words. Neil he said it was perfectly fine for the president to do this and he didnt believe the president did it, i dont know the law part of it but the smell test we often have to translate some of the president s tweets. Neil i was having trouble enough translating giuliani on this. He said that the government should investigate corruption of joe bidens son. This does involve the high level the highest really the Vice President level of u. S. Government involvement with ukraine, a quid pro quo, and if you take just that on its face, why wouldnt the president be concerned about a corruption . Neil a guy that could be the opponent. What was going on in the ukraine at the time, other western governments were looking into ukraine and how corrupt it was. Along came the election with this guy, who is now running ukraine, the same guy this president called to argue for this. Im saying there might be a perfectly good reason for investigating corruption. Neil if he made the call, would that bother you . I mean that call no, if the motive was to find out why joe biden in his own words was using taxpayer dollars to leverage a prosecutors firing in ukraine, i think that is a valid claim to ask the new president of ukraine who vowed to eliminate this type of corruption. There are a couple of issues that are important here. There are hundreds of millions of dollars in aid to a democratic ally in the region that was held up because of this. According to wall street journal reporting, President Trump not just asked once, allegedly eight times and it was so serious when it was going on the potential crimes being extortion, conspiracy to commit extortion and conspiracy to violate federal election law, a whistleblower someone who is now risking their career when you listen to graham who said we know who it is we are going after them. He thought it was so serious that he had to blow the whistle on this, something that people dont want to do that. They know their careers end after this. Only an allegation at this point. Neil you are looking at the dollar amount here. The 250 Million Dollars at the time with biden no, im talking about the aid that got held up. Neil i know what you are saying. We were threatening a billion dollars on that case. Im not comparing a billion, 250 million, im just saying pursue both. Look into both. But the biden claim has been looked into, and thats what biden was saying on the trail yesterday. Neil i love you dearly. You are wrong. Its not been thoroughly looked or vetted. And the investigation never got finished because obviously the guy left. So all of that stopped. A new government came in. A new guy with no experience at all, a great actor im told, really good, a man of the people, and i just want to be very very clear, that was never resolved because the guy who was maybe a nefarious character, hes gone now and everything that followed ended. So the issue not just the prosecutor, for you, thats not what im hearing from President Trump neil corruption is corruption. If people are trying it is alleged that joe biden let his son off. Neil if we want to investigate the president and what he meant and implied and was armtwisting over the course of several phone calls, with the leader of ukraine, arent we at least as obligated to investigate the incident that has got him all fired up . I think democrats should want to do that because if you only investigate the one, then trumps obviously going to spin it as more bullying. This is another witch hunt, etc. , etc. And that really fires up people on, you know, on trumps base and also people are going to start to tune it out, if its all just trump focus this, trump focus that. Neil but do republicans risk being kind of hypocritical on this Inspector General front, yes, lets hear the guy, who has something to say about how the Mueller Investigation started and maybe the false pretenses on which it started but not something that could be damaging to this president , about trying to arm twist influence in ukraine. Yes. I think both sides are doing it which is why its so frustrating. Neil i want both issues to be covered. I want both issued to be covered. The president by the way has been commenting on this entire issue. Do we still have that . Now that the democrats and the Fake News Media have gone bust on every other of their witch hunt schemes they are trying to start one just as ridiculous as the others. Call it the ukraine witch hunt while at the same time trying to protect Sleepy Joe Biden will fail again. Mr. President , theres a lot here that has to be answered for and a lot here that has to be clarified and a lot of information you have to allow the Inspector General in this case to get out and this fellow who has sort of drawn attention to it to speak. Thats on you, and it will vindicate you if its everything you say it is. Fair and balanced. Both sides. After this. Our 18yearold was in an accident. When i called usaa, it was that voice asking me, is your daughter ok . 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But i do want to get into these issues that have been raised about what the president knew and what he was armtwisting or reportedly arm twisting the ukrainian lead tore do and exactly leader to do and exactly when and with the charges the president had about joe biden and what he was doing trying to influence again the view from the right, the Ukrainian Government to sort of ease up on an investigation into natural gas concerns including a company that had his son on its board. So a lot to get into. Democrat Senate Foreign Relations Committee member, ben cardin. Good to have you here. I want to address this first issue. The president has been tweeting about it that it is a witch hunt again and that the media really and by a greater extent the democrats are not really looking into the other side of this, the joe biden side. What do you think . Well, neil, good morning, it is good to be with you. I was listening to the prior segment, and i can tell you that we just need to have the information. Right now it appears that the president tried to influence the president of ukraine by threatening to cut off u. S. Support. Thats very serious allegation. So we have to find out the facts concerning that. We dont want to prejudge it, but we have to have transparency. The whistleblower information needs to be made available to congress, needs to be made available so we can judge the credibility of these allegations, and certainly we would love to hear from the president. Giuliani sort of underscores this by saying it is true. So we have information here that needs to be followed. I was listening to your debate in regards to the issues going back to 2015. Ukraine at that time had serious corruption problems. Theres no question about that. The prosecutor had serious corruption problems. So the credibility at that time is very much in question. But i agree, transparency is important. Neil do you worry, though, that we we are not getting that side . Youre right there might be nothing to it just as the trump folks said theres nothing to this, nothing untorrid or salacious but we were holding up a billion dollars for ukraine at the time in the obama biden administration. Now, to be fair, many western powers were thinking about shelving any more Financial Support for ukraine until and unless they crack down on the corruption that was rampant in the country, including the run away corruption within their Energy Companies and their clois ties to the government their close ties to the government. It was convenient at the time when the guy we were fingering to leave did because among his other duties was that relationship with the Companies One of which had joe bidens son on its board. Isnt it fair to get the light out on both . You are absolutely right that congress was conditioning some of the aid to ukraine based upon progress being made fighting corruption. Corruptions been a serious problem within ukraine and has very little to do with the russian interference. It is a problem of governance within its own country and was probably the leading reason for the change in government during the last election. So yes, i think we need to have transparency. Im not opposed to transparency as to what happened under the previous government. Neil all right. Real quickly, committing more troops to the region, in light of the whole saudi arabia iran dustup, what do you think . Well, neil, next week is going to be a critical week with the opening of the United Nations general assembly, all the World Leaders being in new york, opportunity for america to get more support for our position in regards to iran. Neil okay. The key here is to isolate iran, not isolate america. We need to support of our traditional allies in regards to irans support of terrorism. They are clearly engaged in this battle against saudi arabia. We need to deal with that. 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Military is preparing air and Missile Defense teams to head to the middle east. We dont know the numbers. We know this follows on the heels of the administration going after Irans Central Bank to cut the flow of funds in and out of the country. Retired Delta Force Commander general jerry boykin with us right now. General, good to have you. We dont know a number yet on how many, you know, men and women were sending there. Do you . No, i have no idea how many its going to be. Im sure that as has been reported they will be primarily focused on Missile Defense and being able to stop a future attack of a lowflying drone or missile. Neil now, they are going to be there to stop such attacks, what happened in this one a week ago that either we werent prepared, the saudis clearly werent prepared but it raised a lot of security questions certainly for the kingdom, didnt it . It did. You know, 65 billion dollars they spent in 2018 on their own defense, and well i think what happened though technologically i think these things came in so low that they were not picked up on the radar. The radars were set certainly for, you know, a higher flying aircraft or missile and these came in below the radar, so to speak, and were very successful. In fact, probably all but one actually hit their targets. Neil you know whats interesting, general, i know you and i have gotten into it, its changed peoples views of the rest of the region right . Were thinking about soldiers storming the kingdom or causing all hell along the Israeli Border when in fact it could be a manless drone and do a significant amount of damage. Has it changed the equation . Well, sure, and this is you mentioned the israelis. This is certainly something the israelis ought to be very concerned about. They have probably gone further than anybody with this iron dome capability which will pick these kinds of threats up, but the rest of the world, quite frankly, is not where the israelis are, so we see right now that we just cut off 5 of the worlds total Oil Production in hitting these targets there in saudi arabia. Think about that. What if you did that in a series of places . And i think that honestly could be one of the motivations for the iranians to do this is to reduce production and increase cost in an effort to put our allies in a position to really pressure President Trump to give some relief on these sanctions. Neil you know, general, you mentioned the oil and what happened, skyrockets in response to this, just doing irans bidding in treating it that way, so im wondering in a proportionate response when it comes to iran for this, the president is obviously cognizant if oil is affected on the world markets, oil prices go up, ourselves included even though we have a great deal of Energy Independence now, in peril, maybe the oil wouldnt be the proportionate response, but what would be . Were seeing in a proportionate response in that hes ratcheted up the pressure of the sanctions, now, the question is, what do you do next . I mean whats proportionate next . I think at the very top end sanctions, i dont think theres much more we can do to them in terms of sanctions. We dont know what the president knows. We dont know what his Intelligence Community may be telling him. They may be telling him that the iranian people have turned against their government and a military strike in fact would unite them around the mullahs of the supreme council, thats not what we want, so i think the president is handling this well. Im an old soldier. I would like to see us, you know, make a parking lot out of some of their facilities there. But that said, i know thats not the right answer. I think the president is probably getting a different kind of counsel from his Intelligence Community, and right now, at this point, i think what hes doing is about right. Neil all right, general, always a pleasure. Always learn a good deal, sir. Thank you very much. Good to be with you. Neil all right. I do want to take your attention to something going on in hong kong right now. Stop if you have heard this before, but there are more protests on this, just coming into our newsroom right now, where protesters were told to sort of break up, disappear, and they are not. Their new target seems to be subway stations, postal offices or the equivalent of in hong kong and store fronts. Theyve been told to break it up. Theyre not breaking up. Were following it. Ompetition for the talent. Employees need more than just a paycheck. You definitely want to take advantage of all the benefits you can get. 2 3 of employees said that the workplace is an important source for personal savings and protection solutions. The workplace should be a source of financial security. Keeping your people happy is what keeps your people. Thats Financial Wellness. Put your employees on a path to Financial Wellness with prudential. Neil you might have heard a thing or two this week about the new iphone. It is apparently out so are a lot of the apple faithful getting their hands on this one. If you think about it, you are spending a thousand bucks, so it must Say Something about this economy. Were going to get into that. First to Fox Business Network susan lee at apple store, now the Worlds Largest officially on whats happening. Susan . Crossing a trillion dollars in market cap yesterday, apple back across that level after a launch of its new iphone 11 devices, but here in new york, we also had a different type of excitement as well, the iconic glass cube reopening on 5th avenue to a lot of excitement. There were line ups across the entire plaza yesterday. Yes, we the eager fans. With the eager fans that were looking to get their hands on the iphone 11 but also to get a sneak peek inside. Its been closed since january of 2017. Apple tells us they needed that time to make the space twice as large, having to sink the floor by 7 feet and they say more people visit this store than the statue of liberty every year. Thats 57 million visitors since 2007. So for this special occasion, we had ceo tim cook in attendance, along with the head of apple retail. Shes a big deal, Deirdre Obrien opening the doors yesterday and also high fiving a lot of the fans that were the first ones to get their hands on the new devices. It is not just here in new york that you had fans lining up across, across asia and across europe as well, those who wanted to upgrade to the new phone. Yes, they were lining up outside. Also some excitement in china. China is a wildcard of course to apples business since we have seen a slowdown in iphone sales there where they are losing to competition of cheaper local smart phone makers. Neil . Neil susan, stay right there. I want to include you in the mix here. We have the noted cpa market analyst, bestselling author, also retail watcher extraordinaire, whats happening right now, momentarily we just showed the Central Bank Chiefs with the president of the United States, we are going to get into that because they are cutting rates presumably because of a slowing economy. Im looking at this. Looks like were doing okay, people forking that kind of money for a phone. Especially for apple, when it comes to their consumer, they know that the consumer does not care if they hike the price on any sort of apple products, specifically with the iphone. And i get these alerts all the time. I mean, were not just talking from apple, and i have to caveat this by saying i do own apple shares, however, but i covered the stock, and, you know, were talking about news outlets reviewing the phone saying the apple 11 is one of the best phones out there. Thats only going to make it more appealing to that customer. No wonder they are out there around the corner trying to get their hands on it, and also the new store is being unveiled. Neil there is a lot of great stuff out there. I mean, you could look at it too and just get a sense dan that lots of people love lots of things but they dont buy the things if they are worried about how things are looking for them; right . So id like to ask what is it saying about our economy when people have no problem forking out that kind of money . I think it is very clear, neil, that our economy is extremely strong right now, in spite of what we hear here and there about a recession is coming. You know what . A recession is coming, but i dont think it is any time soon. Look, Consumer Confidence is very high right now. Thats number one. And number two, unemployment is really low. So people are working. They have money, and theyre spending it. And apple has a very loyal following. Clearly, i wasnt in line yesterday. I dont know if you were, but i neil i just asked, and she said i know people. During the recession of 2008 and 2011, the iphone sales were still skyrocketing. Neil you are not making a greater read, in addition to a reflection of the economy. No, im not, this is one thing consumers will still spend. I do think the economy is strong. When i do an apples to apples comparison neil i see what you are doing there. [laughter] neil when you were talking about the crowd there and the Company Officials and all, their view is that if you build something appealing, they will buy it. And they built a bigger store to accommodate it, obviously. But the technology will weather whatever is coming the consumers way because people of all types will still like the gadgets and still like the stuff thats cool. They might compromise on other things but not those. What do you think . Yeah, thats right. Field of dreams, you build it, they will come. Thats what apple is hoping for, since they put a lot of money into this flagship store. Also the new iphone 11 is a big upgrade in technology. We heard that from the executives yesterday because it is considered the best camera system on the market on any smart phone. Also longer battery life, and yes, theres a lot of competition. But dont forget, apple is also getting you addicted to the ecosystem as well, not just the phone. Were talking about the music, the tunes and also the streaming service that they are launching as well. There is a lot of pent up demand since we know there are 200 million of these iphone 6s and older. So look if you have lower Interest Rates, if you feel secure in your job, i think people are willing to go out and spend. Neil i think theres something to that. Lets get a sense of the economy, guys, and we were talking were going to get into this more a little later in the show. The Federal Reserve just cut rates this past week, which seems odd, in the face of a good economy; right . And the president was not satisfied with that cut. If the economy is so good, did we need a cut at all . My position on this, neil, and it has been my position, and the three of us have discussed this before, in a heated way. Neil i never got heated. I think you did. Well, they were attacking me. You came to my rescue. [laughter] look, i think there is no reason for us to be cutting rates right now. I agree with Eric Rosengren of the boston fed who was one of the two that dissented based on the fact that he felt rates should be held. Neil one other disagreed as well, but he wanted more. He wanted more of a cut. Look, i think this is a situation where the president has browbeaten the fed to the point where they will cut under pressure. Not everybody will agree with that, but i believe thats true because with an economy thats so strong, i just dont believe theres a need for a cut. Were taking antibiotics here before were even sick. Its a waste of our ammunition. Neil i agree with that. What do you think i like the parallel. It really does feel like it is like a broken window theory here. Neil youre just jealous because you used the apple to apple thing. He used the antibiotic. I like the antibiotic thing. I my think my apple to apple is better. It is not just powell trying to make a decision in cutting rates, but i think it is a back and forth between President Trump and powell. Theres an election thats about to happen. If the economy goes into a recession, President Trump theres not going to be theres going to be major waves when it comes to his campaign. Neil now he has someone to blame right away. Thats what hes doing; right . Thats whats happening. Hes blaming powell. Neil he says in case everything goes south, dont blame him. Blame that knucklehead. What did he call them, the bone heads . I will need to review the tweets. It is monetary warfare, guys. It is not just the u. S. It is a globalized world. You heard that from chairman powell saying were reacting to slower global growth. You need to get ahead of the problem. You dont react when the economy slows down then you are way behind at that point. It is about a weaker dollar policy that were looking at right now not lower Interest Rates. Neil were following losers; right . We want to imitate losers. Neil, can we ask dietary advice . No, not a good move. They are losers, so we want to go down to their low rate. Then this could be the good policy to follow, but i look at their economies and many are on the brink of recession, not going to go there. Talk to u. S. Companies who over and over again on their Earnings Call saying we are being hurt because of the strong dollar. You even heard that from apple. We missed because of a strong dollar. If youre in the white house and youre hearing this from neil strength or lack thereof of the currency, maybe theres something wrong with your business model. The other thing we have to look at here is corporate debt is at an alltime high; right . When youre lowering those Interest Rates, you are encouraging individuals and corporations to take out more debt. Neil thats right. Down the road when a recession hits neil youre encouraging the behavior youre trying to control. Yes, exactly, thank you for saying it so eloquently for me. Neil apples to apples. We will pick the brain of our guest in the second hour. Just a day after new york city mayor drops out of the 2020 race. Another candidate saying im kind of on life support too, after this. Whos dog is this . Its my special friend, antonio. His luxurious fur calms my nerves when im worried about moving into our new apartment. Why dont we just ask geico for help with renters insurance . I didnt know geico helps with renters insurance. Yeah, and we could save a bunch too. Antonio fetch computer antonio . Ill get it. Get to know geico and see how much you could save on renters insurance. Neil all right, making all of that iowa 2020 candidates are descending on the Hawkeye State for the traditional state event, delicious. But the field may be getting a little smaller very soon. We are hearing bookers campaign saying the senator maybe on his way out if he doesnt rain a lot of money and a lot fast. Foxs peter doocy is joining me live from des moines with the latest. Peter . It already smells like steak here in des moines at the water works park, and you can tell this event is really important because all 19 candidates are coming. Youve got the Biden Campaign representing on this side, cars streaming in, Kamala Harris who says shes all in on iowa on that side of the street. Cory booker is expected to be here a little while from now. And right this minute his campaign is leading a Conference Call with reporters, explaining the dire straits they are apparently in. They are saying they may not be able to stick around much longer. Booker himself tweeted explaining a few minutes ago, he said we are at a cross roads in this campaign. We need to raise 1. 7 Million Dollars by september 30th to be in a position to build the organization we need to compete for the nomination, and we can do it, but if we dont, we dont see a legitimate longterm path forward. So booker will be here. The place where were camped out right now is biden fest, and off here in the distance you can see the grill is already smoking. The thing that is going to be of greater importance, though, once biden gets here is not how he does frying the steak, it is going to be asking him questions about exactly what he thinks of the president ordering or seeming to suggest that his son and he should be under investigation. Biden didnt have a whole lot to say on camera yesterday. He did put out a statement saying he wants to see transcripts of the president s call with leaders from ukraine. But were hoping to get some more reaction from him a little later. Neil . Neil real quickly, peter, we know Kamala Harris is literally going to park herself in iowa for a while. She wouldnt be the first to do that. It did work for obama when he tried it in 08. It worked for john kerry when he did it. Didnt work for cruz or santorum. But its hail mary time, isnt it . Yes, thats reflected on what booker is going through right now. His campaign in a memo said once they makes it harder for the debates, once the winter approaches, there are only four campaigns that can raise the money and get the polling. They think the field is about to narrow a lot. Campaigns like his who have a lot of staff on the ground are trying to make sure that they are among the top four, if thats how many there are, and obviously Kamala Harris who said she is going to hire 60 fulltime staff organizers in iowa, very soon, might be going through the same thing soon. Neil . Neil all right. We will watch it closely. Peter, thank you very much. Get yourself some steak. It is never too early, my friend. We have a lot more coming up including big tech bigtime under the microscope. A key senator telling me this week that the crackdown on facebook is just a preview to coming attractions. We trust usaa more than any other company out there. They give us excellent customer service, every time. Our 18 year old was in an accident. Usaa took care of her car rental, and getting her car towed. All i had to take care of was making sure that my daughter was ok. If i met another veteran, and they were with another insurance company, i would tell them, you need to join usaa because they have better rates, and better service. Were the gomez family. Were the rivera family. Were the kirby family, and we are usaa members for life. Get your Auto Insurance quote today. Neil all right. Earlier this week i had democratic senator mark warner talking about the visit on capitol hill, mark zuckerberg, was trying to do the meet and greet with everyone including the very senators who are trying to crack down on his company saying its got essentially too big for its bridges and there are privacy concerns and all of that. They are gunning for him. Where does this all go . Fox news legal analyst on all that. Where do you think it goes . Oh, gosh, well certainly they are saying to these Big Companies how long do we have to wait and give you so many chances to selfregulate . We have already neil [inaudible]. You have cambridge analytics where 87 million americans there about allegedly their data was taken and used for the 2016 president ial election. You have that. You have also the ftc who stepped in and fined facebook 5 billion dollars because of the privacy concerns where the data for all the users. I mean theres 2 billion facebook users. The data has to be protected somehow. So the legislators neil they are trying to get ahead of it, right . Facebook Just Announced that tens of thousands of apps over data privacy abuses. So they are trying to look like they are handling this themselves, but we have gotten beyond that. I think we have gotten beyond that. And the expectation from the users and those of the constituents of the politicians are stepping forward and saying facebook, weve given you so many chances. You have come before us and you always come with the same type of testimony. We will do better. We know we need to do better. Frankly, where does that get you . Neil some of them want to go so far as break the company up, breaking google up, even breaking apple up, going after amazon. You have heard the drill of all these guys. They have simply gotten way too big and way too influential, but i have seen this before, mercedes. Be careful what you wish for because sometimes Competitive Forces will take care of that. Thats very true, but who is competing against facebook . Lets be real. Neil well, im old enough to remember who was competing against prodigy, microsoft, net scape . I think honestly of course were probably on the same page. Let companies, Large Companies im a defense attorney, let Large Companies selfregulate. Thats great. Thats wonderful. But how many chances are they going to be given before legislation has to step in and say you are not doing the right job . Neil again, im not as much as if you dont get it right, someone else will and you will be toast anyway . With 2 billion users i think it would be really hard to bring down facebook. Neil i remember when aol controlled the Online Search world; right . It was everything. Im a google girl. I cant remember neil okay, google girl. Youre a google lawyer. You think that something will happen and it will have the desired effect. Well, especially because with the 2020 president ial election around the corner, everyones sort of saying wait a inminute, brace yourself wait a minute, brace yourself. Look at the end of the day, it is going to be the consumers are going to look. The shareholders who have tons of advertising dollars that goes to these megatech companies so money will ultimately rule. Neil we shall see. As you do rule. Mercedes colwin, legal extraordinaire. We are staying on top of the back and forth between joe biden and the president of the United States. Thats what we do. We stay on top of things. You are welcome, america. Yeah thats right. Can you help with these . Oh. Um, were more of the plan,. Helping you to and through retirement. All right. Another weekend and guess what . Weve got another series of protests going on in hong kong right now. They are 12 hours about on the east coast. So this is 11 p. M. Hong kong time right now. The authorities, as they have almost every weekend, weve seen these disruptions, have told them, all right, we get your point. You can all spread out now and go home and theyre not spreading out and going home. This, of course, is way beyond the initial reason for these protests months ago that started with an extradition order, if you were picked up for any problems in hong kong they hauled your butts to china and that was it. That did not go down well, not only among the individual population, but even businesses said, are you nuts . You talk about how this is going to hurt us. Its going to hurt everybody. Its going to hurt hong kong. The government ultimately caving on that. And then you havent treated us well, and some disappeared and we want you to account for that. And they spread their message to airports, spread it to subway stations and the government at that point said, all right, this is getting a little crazy here and there you are. Still no closer to resolving this, but, of course, all of this when you think about it a little more than a week before china celebrates 70 years as a communist nation. And they wanted this under control by then. Its not under control. Were on top of it. Meanwhile, a week after the attacks on those saudi ail fields, oil fields is looking to send troops, and a layout to essentially shut down Irans Central Bank like our Federal Reserve so that money that gets into and out of the nation cant do that anymore. Mark meredith with the nation. They will put more troops to the middle east to curb what they say is aggressive behavior by iran. They say its necessary to support the global economy. The deployment follows last weeks drone attack against an oil facility in saudi arabia. Secretary of state mike pompeo said he had no doubt that iran was responsible for the attack and iran has denied responsibility. On friday, the president announced u. S. Is imposing tougher sanctions against iran, these specifically targeting the central bank and its National Development fund. The president addressed the sanctions while addressing the australian Prime Minister in the oval office on friday. These are the highest sanctions ever imposed on a country. Weve never done it to this level and its too bad whats happening with iran, its going to hell, doing poorly. Theyre practically broke. They are broke. And they could stop the problem very easily. All they have to do is stop with the terror. The president could address the rising tensions with iran next week when he meets facetoface with many World Leaders. Neil, hes going to be headed up to new york on sunday for the United Nations general assembly. Iran said it had no plans of meeting with iran. He had said it was possible. Are you getting any indication that, i know what you said the two sides officially dont talk about meeting with one another and the Supreme Leader said well never talk to this president when he talks like this. The president holds out hope that iran will come to his senses. Does he believe that . Do the people around him think this might work. Thats one of the questions he got, if these sanctions are imposed whats next . Is military action the only option on the table . The president didnt want to get into what his potential retaliations options were going to be. Only that he would stick for the sanctions. Hes stuck on the sanctions track now for several months. Well be interested to see whether that changes next meeting. Neil i know im hitting you with a lot, but the cash flow, essentially shutting down their Federal Reserve, their central bank, but we know from iran that it has a black market and a lot of people support that market and on the side, take care of iran, russia chief among them. How did shutting down the central bank stop that . Well, what weve seen is really an all sides approach to crippling irans economy. There was a story on fox business a couple of weeks ago, talking about things how the teachers retirement accounts have been dwindled because of these types of sanctions, when you start cutting off the different options for iran, you can imagine the kind of pressure that you make and we have to figure out exactly what happens from the investigation between saudi arabia and the u. S. , as many World Leaders are going to be interested to see what actually comes out of development in saudi arabia. Neil all right. Thank you, mark, very very much. Mark meredith keeping track of the fastmoving developments. Joining us from the washington examiner, well get her takes i dont believe shes quite ready here, but just were getting updates about this central bank freezing of assets, if you will, or money going in and out of the country. That would be like essentially shutting down our Federal Reserve. The money folks, the people back up our capital, and as is necessary. If you freeze that, stop that, halt that, make it difficult to get that, the argument is that onerous restrictions, already in place and sanctions considering that its already in place and this will sort of be the straw that broke the financial camels back. The iranians are certainly complaining a lot more. And some have been saying that the attacks, sort of a wounded and mal response that we predicted wed get from the iranians and theyre at the end of their wits and that will produce a result. Well see. Now of course, this issue for the washington examiner, this has gotten to be a big one. I do want to get into other things with you. If you first off on this iranian crackdown and folks you talk to, that this could just push the iranians to the brink. This was the one thing left out of prior crackdowns on iran and now were taking it away. What do you think . So obviously it does not necessarily help trump as he goes into 2020 if we enter another boots off the ground domestic conflict. That being said, this is an issue thats been its been a slow burn and the issue is right now we arent dealing with a europe that wants to comply with our International Agenda in terms of strengthening our regional allies around iran. Things are coming to a head, but i dont think its in anyones interest for us to wind up with boots on the ground and bolton out of the trump administration, how much, the lengths that we would go to avoid the conflict. Neil and the president says he doesnt want that either. Hes talking about a proportion na the response to what they did with the attack on the iranian oil field. If you do that, im sure they told him then youll lift up the aisle around the world. And we have a certain Energy Independence, but our allies may not. What would a response be for that. For a proportionate response, everyones instinct is to say continue to sanction. Quite frankly, the moment that we do recede to violence it doesnt, in a way make the United States look a little bit weak, especially because we arent backed by european allies and this doesnt mean that our european allies are in the right to sort of be okay with an empowered iranian regime, but rather we need to show were a united front in our continued sanking of iran. Neil and switching gears tee and tiana, and the whistleblower, urging reportedly an investigation into joe biden when he was vicepresident working presumably on behalf of his son who was a board member on a big gas concern there. The vicepresident says theres no there there, but a lot of people are saying after the mueller probe, the russia thing, what are you thinking . Wh is what is the latest . And there are two different issues, two issues that could make President Trump, and joe biden the 2020 front runner look bad out of this. The question is whether or not hunter biden was engaging in corrupt activity that could have compromised biden during the obama administration. Question number two, if trump did indeed in a quid pro quo with the Ukrainian Government to dig up dirt on someone who is the most who is obviously his most formidable challenger. And were going to see partisans on both sides to focus only on one of the questions, but the fact is both could be innocent, both could be guilty or one or the other could be, you know, in trouble here. Neil what is wrong with just letting the whistleblower talk then if you said you did nothing wrong and the president argued and he cast vociferous about it, he said wait a minute, i didnt do anything untoward, everything was aboveboard. Let the whistleblower state his case, see what happens, but when the Inspector General isnt allowing that and the Justice Department isnt allowing that, it does raise concerns, what are you hiding . So for the American People, obviously, we think that in some ways its the best disinfectant were seeing the politicalization of the mueller probe. I dont think that anyone in the trump side would allow adam schiff to be. And the narrative, did trump engage with a quid pro quo with a Foreign Government to influence a up coming election or remember, is this the deep state that is working against the president . Its one that will resonate with his base. Neil even in privateclosed door sections, the Inspector General Michael Adkinson were able to chair what he has or at least outline what he has and i understand these are National Security issues and some peoples identities might be sacrificed, but there must be a way of communicating to those who are wondering if its a russian issue all over again, just put that to rest. I mean, thats the thing. The American People, polling showed overwhelmingly and at the time benefitted trump, it was shown that we were tired of the mueller rodeo and its not necessarily the fault of the special counsel himself, but how long it dragged on. All of those breaking news reports, everything was supposed to be, this will take down the trump administration. In this case, if this actually will take down the trump administration, better just to have it come out now rather than a slow burn and if it will exonerate now better have it come out now than be a slow burn. Otherwise are we looking at the past two and a half years on repeat this time with a different government. Neil Rudy Guiliani confused me on cnn in a rambling exchange. Even if he did do it, he doesnt do it, theres nothing wrong about the president saying to the leader of another country, hey, look into this. But i would think there is if youre tying it to a, that country might or might not get if you dont. Absolutely. When you look the at language of the special counsels report from the russia probe, what mueller directly wrote is, you substitute ukraine in this case, you know, promising something in the future, a quid pro quo in exchange for another country digging up dirt on trumps personal political adversaries, yes, that absolutely by definition a conspiracy and that is a crime and quite frankly, if trump did do it, thats an impeachable offense. Neil and thats the debate, but just as much as in role that the president might have played in holding up a billion dollars in aid many people might have been tainted, but going after natural gas concerns of the country, one of which had a board member who was the vicepresident s son. Have at it. Its daylight goings on and were not doing that. Yes, i mean, obviously the hunter biden question is still important. If biden himself was compromised during the obama administration, that makes him quite frankly an unelected candidate regardless of your political affiliation. There will be a question coming up in coming weeks because they both matter. Neil im glad you said that. They both matter. Im glad you said that. If you did nothing, my dad used to say, you have nothing to worry about. Exactly. Neil dad was right. More after this. Employees need more than just a paycheck. 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Theyre responding to a barricaded subject, reported to a hand grenade. They have not confirmed at this point what he was doing with that and what his demands were. The hotel has been evacuated in abundance of caution at the moment. No injuries, no reports beyond the fact theyre saying theres a guy barricaded in this building with a hand grenade. But he is not cooperating with negotiators. If we get more developments on that of course, well pass them along. Hope everything works out. In the meantime, the Federal Reserve this week cut Interest Rates a quarter point. You already heard about that and you heard how disappointed the president was that the Federal Reserve let him down again and hes referred to the central bank as a bunch of bone heads and the guy he chose as the biggest mistake he has made or among them in his presidency, Jerome Powell. But Jerome Powell got in a few digs of his own back at the president. Fake a look. Business experts have weakened amid falling manufacturing output the rain reasons appear to be Slower Growth abroad and trade policy developments. As i mentioned weakness in global greowth and trade policy has risks. Weve seen a resurgence of trade policy tensions including imposition of additional tariffs. Neil different styles, maybe, but a lot of people interpreted that as Jerome Powells saying the white house, theyre a bunch of boneheads. Probably not what he said, but back to the United States. And neil is here reserve bank president. Good to see you. Good to see you. Neil and people who try to be zing proof, zing back. Is that powell saying i wouldnt be in the position you put me in if not for the trade war and policy. I think that Jerome Powell is doing a the president i understand, were commit today making the best decisions we can based on the goals that congress have give us. Neil when he says Federal Reserve are are boneheads, i dont think hes talking about you. Elected officials are entitled that their positions. Our jobs are to push those out and do our job. Neil you might be that way, but can you . I really think we can. And i give jay powell, we call him jay, terrific credit for leading us in a way that focuses on data. Puts the politics aside and do the right thing for the economy. In 2018 we were raising Interest Rates. I didnt think we should, but we were. As the data changed and the economy changed were now pivoting and cutting Interest Rates and i certainly support that and i think thats an example of jay and all of us looking at the data and changing our behavior, changing our judgment based on how the economy evolved. Neil and there three as you know in this Federal Reserve move. Two were against it because they thought we didnt need the stimulus. One the st. Louis fed who said we should have gone a half point. Be there as it may. Consensus is a hard thing to come by with the feds this time. What do you think happens next go round . Well, you know, well see. I think were all committed to keep watching how the data unfolds. Im hearing the same thing that chairman powell talked about. I hear from my business contacts that theyre nervous, a lot of nervous about the trade tensions going on globally and with china and we see Business Investment falling. Thats some of the bad news. The good news the u. S. Consumer continues to be strong and job market continues to create jobs. Right now the signals are mixed and were trying to read which direction the economy will go. I was in the camp with my colleague from st. Louis, we should cut by 50 basis points or 1 2 a percent, but i want to see how the data evolves before i decide where to go from here. Neil thank you. Good to see you, neil from the Federal Reserve. Except the way he spells neil, not neil, the neel. Neil and then something scary, but actually good after this. I dont want any trade minimums. Yeah, i totally agree, they dont have any of those. I want to know what im paying upfront. Yes, absolutely. Do you just say yes to everything . Hm. Well i say no to kale. Mm. Yeah, they say if you blanch it its better, but that seems like a lot of work. No hidden fees. No platform fees. No trade minimums. And yes, its all at one low price. Td ameritrade. Was in an accident. When i called usaa, it was that voice asking me, is your daughter ok . Thats where i felt relief. Were the rivera family and we plan to be with usaa for life. See how much you can save with usaa insurance. Are you scared yet . October just a few days away. More than a few, but this is one of the scariest months for the market, october. Who can forget 1987. Who can forget the middle of the financial meltdown a little over a decade ago. The story of the depression. It gets a bad rap a lot of times. October is not the worst month of the year, but, but theres always concern as the problems escalate that something bad is going to happen. What if something good happens . In other words, what if we get a trade deal, wall street likes it and some of the uncertainties are removed and nothing comes of the investigations that are starting right now. A lot of charging back and forth, but all is good. So no unexpected developments that royal the markets. It happens, but more often than not history suggests in october, well, it doesnt, but it could. So you see where im going there . Joe, jessica, dan. Dan, what do you make of the argument this particular october, which generally gets the rap for the big fellows and maybe not this goround . I think the way the market has been reacting, particularly sensitive to whats going on with china, that may well dictate whats happening in act. Historically the worst month is october. Youre right october gets a bad rap. But you see the market has moved on tweets, any piece of information trade dominates the theme. Which relates to china, the market just moves and theres a lot of other news going on, but it just doesnt seem to have the same impact. So based on the president taking the position now of an all or nothing related to china, either we get a deal and its all the way, theres no interim deal going on. Neil he said no partial deal, unequivocal about that. Based on what were seeing, i think we could have a rocky october. Neil so we dont get a deal, and the president went so far as to say that, and it doesnt bother me, it doesnt bother me, we dont get one to election time. I would think that it would bother him. I would think so. And the election or reelection often hinges on the state of the economy. People having confidence in it. Youve have, i dont want to a National Revolt youve had the National Farmers union what is going on here . This isnt what we signed up for. Its not the argument shortterm pain for longterm gain. The trade war by tweet to china and a strong core base of the president. Neil certainly the market impact. Its come up. There were a couple of weeks there where it was rocky and sort of gets whipsawed, and thats the market the better it looks for trade, and maybe not, what do you think . I think its better the market looks, the Better Things look for President Trump overall, but we dont see the president s poll numbers, the rcp average fluctuating as often as it does with the dow when it comes to trades or tweets. When you look at 2017 the poll numbers were at its worst and the stock market was through the roof. Neil what if we dont get a deal . We may get the usmca deal, hopefully we do and with modi in your view china will support him hes the first president to talk about the intellectual property. Neil if it comes to body blows and and what the president is addressing considering some of his predecessors that havent. Neil what do you think . I think, i was under the impression for a long time, neil, i thought we would get a deal by this point in time because both sides really need the deal and its in everyones best interest. However, because of the way china reacts or doesnt react, i should say, theyre extremely patient, they may very well hold out and see how this is going to shape up with the 2020 election. Theyre going to get a better deal if donald trump is not in the white house. I think they realize that. Well, and many smart analysts have been making for months now, that xi jinping who is not term limited forever. Ill see how it works out. If i get a democrat ill make it deal there, if not then President Trump how would it look if joe biden, elizabeth warren, would they start by scratch or whatever youre doing, keep doing it. We talked about this before Amy Klobuchar on Fox News Sunday with Chris Wallace and this is bad, its bad. And chris pushed back, what are you going to do, are tariffs a nogo for that field . And i think that articulating a china policy and polls shift, democrats are favored on trade. And the president on the economy, but trade shifting. And joe biden, elizabeth warren, bernie sanders, there has to be a china plan if this is a central plank for the Trump Campaign for 2020. This is why i think there may not be an electoral price to pay for some of this. Weve seen the democrats in three debates over several nights and the focus has not been what can the democrats do differently on trade or economy, there were foo you if any in the debate asked. When they were asked what theyd do different on the economy they struggled to find an iota of information or fact that could actually throw some shade on whats happening overall. Neil well, would not help the recovery and well, i think it would be hard to argue that the economy is in better shape than it was, you know, when the president got into office. So hes going to keep pushing the stronger markets certainly. The record low unemployment rates, one group after another, a lot of democrat constituents, thats what hes going to pound, right . I think, neil, if he take the politics out of it and meaning that we have an election on the way and we really look at what the president s doing and forget how hes handling it in terms of tweets. If you look at the environment, this is the time for a president to take on china. Hes got the wind at his back, related to the economy. Were in a very strong but hes facing a few more headwinds. Hes always going to face some headwinds. But, neil, this is the absolute best environment weve seen for a president to challenge china on. Hes not benefitting. I think it says more about donald trump the person more than anything else. Neil and you are still going to get tweeted. [laughter] we have more coming up. A top House Democrat call for an investigation into the whistleblower complaint after this. All right. The wall street journal the latest to report that the president urged the ukraine president eight times now maybe not just once to investigate joe bidens son hunter. And these are democrats trying to access the whistleblower report involving the communication not easterly as understanding a quid pro quo that might have been the course of this, whether joe biden, he vicepresident under president obama, to get a quid pro quo to get the pressure off his son. Its mindnumbingly detailed. I didnt know he was going to be here in person, we were going to trash him via remote and cant do that now. And the house chief deputy whip dan kildee. Good to have you. Good. Neil and what brings you here. I have a couple of meetings and my son kenneth is in brooklyn and anytime i have a chance to connect with him. Neil let me get the lay of the land. A lot of democrats are seizing on these alleged phone calls that the president was trying to, you know, strong arm, they say, the leader of ukraine, and connected to investigate this joe biden thing. Now, this risk that he saidhe said thing. The they think i want to ask you is it Rudy Guiliani has said, its not true, but even if it were, theres nothing wrong with it. Now, im not a lawyer. Is there something wrong with that . Im not a lawyer either, but theres definitely something wrong with it. I dont think the American People would want to have a president reaching out to a foreign head of state to engage him to go after somebody who happens to be a political opponent. I think thats a dangerous thing for us to do and i do think there very likely is a violation of law if its true. But there are two distinct issues, one is the content of that conversation. I think its important, even with this president , with whom i have a lot of differences, that we not make too many hasty judgments until we have an opportunity to evaluate the information. Neil and many in your party have called it a constitutional crisis and pales in comparison, russia and Hillary Clinton tweeting. And with a foreign power helping him win an election. Didnt wait to find out if it could be true. It was a trump appointee, that there was credible evidence that it may be true. Neil and hes not been allowed to talk. More important, the law is clear the Inspector General has a duty to report to the director of National Intelligence and forwarded to the intelligence committees within seven days, so the question, thats clearly troubling is the fact that that law is simply being ignored and it seems to be being ignored because its more convenient for this administration to ignore it. Neil well, thats your opinion, to be fair, that they are saying as well that it could sacrifice key identities, relationships, youre not buying that . Well, i read the letter very carefully, their assertion is that the law that were referring to doesnt apply in this situation. During the adam schiff, chairman, deeply disturbing that the white house appears to know more about this whistleblowers complaint than its intended recipient, congress. For sure and even the Inspector General, a trump appointee sent a followup letter that he disagrees with the dnis information, that the information does not fall under this law. So, thats what to me is more troubling. Neil theres a lot in your eyes. But here is where im confused, congressman, a lot of times on the par of many of your party to explore this, not nearly so much a report that could be official that gets to the beginnings of the investigation, the Mueller Investigation itself and maybe under nefarious circumstances. That crickets from your side. Yeah. Well, i mean, obviously we have a concern about the activity and the behavior of this president and we have to provide oversight on the president s of the United States. Neil if youre looking at the genesis of a crisis or a controversy or an investigation, dont you owe it to everybody to look into what might have prompted this one . You mean in terms of the Mueller Report. The Mueller Report. I think the Mueller Report kind of speaks for itself actually, the facts that they presented are more lets say that the Inspector General said there were a lot of specious elements that got the ball rolling. I dont know what conclusion hell come to. I guess well have to wait and see. Neil many in your party arent waiting and seeing on this. Whats good for the goose should be good for the gander. Neil and i said at the beginning of the show, had both. But i note theres more zeal to go after the president on a lot of things we dont know here, not so much to look what another Inspector General could do or say on what started an investigation of his ties and mueller is saying in another case. Yeah, although i will only disagree in this sense, i think its actually looked at more than this. This question is before us know you and theres an absolute denial, no information is being transmitted. Neil so you have no issue when the vicepresident , as a vicepresident , working with barack obama, was putting the heat and pressure on the ukraine at the time, it was very corrupt government, ultimately fell apart a new guy comes in. But it was very, very corrupt. He was going even after the prosecutor, and corruption governments, a lot of western powers were, but not talking much how that firing would affect a separate investigation going on in the Natural Gas Industry there one of whose key players was the vicepresident s son at the time. Yeah. If, i believe thats been scrutinized actually more than many people want to say it has been, but i dont think we can ignore the facts that are in front of us regarding it wasnt scrutinized like crazy. A lot of people wondered by the timing and all. Im saying, wondering about the timing of these calls, should we look at the timing of those and theyre a little different, youre quite right, but theres no comparison to the zest. I guess if they want to investigate it, if the president controls the department of justice, an american agency, if they want to investigate it, they are completely free to do that. Neil well, you have suspicion of the president in this case. You dont have any suspicions about what joe biden might have been doing in that case. Well, i think to me, to be honest with you, i do think thats been scrutinized more than a lot of people are giving note. Neil nothing wrong. Im not suggesting theres nothing wrong. All im saying but your opinion is that and you feel it has been adequately scrutinized. I do. Neil your opinion is the latest thing with the Inspector General hasnt been scrutinized. Not at all. Neil thats how you differentiate . The fact that the president of the United States, if he wants to conduct a legitimate investigation of the activities of any american under the Justice Department. Thats fine. To go to a foreign nation and ask them to do the same is a different question. Neil quickly, the gm strike, your neck of the woods. How long do you think it goes on . Its hard to say. This is a pretty fundamental difference. So the workers, and the federal government stepped up for the company when they were really in trouble, almost out of business. They were bankrupt. And now i think what we see is the workers saying this is a highly profitable company. Some of those concessions that we gave to help you get through that trouble, we think we ought to have some consideration, we ought to have some job security because we were the ones who stepped up. Not mexican workers, not the mexican government. It was the American Workers and uaw. Neil and the taxpayers. And the taxpayers and theres a debt owed that i dont think the company totally understands. Neil thank you, dan kildee, deputy whip. And the strike is a week old and to his other point, that it doesnt look like its ending soon. Some fresh details that might alarm you. Like a drifter i was born to walk alone . Barb you left me hangin on the high harmony there. If you ride, you get it. Geico motorcycle. 15 minutes could save you 15 or more. Have you lost weight . Of course i have ever since i started renting from national. Because national lets me lose the wait at the counter. And choose any car in the aisle. And i dont wait when i return, thanks to drop go. At national, i can lose the wait. And keep it off. Looking good, patrick. I know. vo go national. Go like a pro. Thand find inspiration who win new places. Ct. Leading them to discover were woven together by the moments we share. Everything you need, all in one place. Expedia. You know, area 51 has always been an ageold draw to a lot of people and you know, now of course we always want to know are aliens hidden there and visit, are they examined and scrutinized . We figured, all right, who do we get to do an updated story on this as popular appeal and Jonathan Hunt immediately snapped into mind here. Jonathan hunt in nevada, yes, at area 51. Sir. Hey, neil, good morning to you. Were at area 51 base camp and im afraid i have sad news to report from here. Its a numbers game which i know you like, neil. Two Million People said they would show up for the alien punt hunting weekend and they said thered be 5,000 here at area 51 base camp. Well, last night the height of what was supposed to be the festivities, they were about 4,800 authority of that 5,000 number. Take a look at some of the video. The nighttime video, the party here, wellknown deejay, a big draw, about 150 people standing in front of the stage. The sad news from area 51 base camp, theyre shutting it down today. On the other hand. Further up the exterrestrial highway that runs in front of us is the small town of rachel, nevada. Theyve got 1500 or so people up there right now. Theyre going to carry on today. Theyre going to have more music and everybody is going to keep having a good time. Some of them are still planning on approaching the gates of area 51, just to get close to it. We met a few of those yesterday, and i have to say, neil, we certainly met some very quirky characters. Listen here. Im kind of disappointed there isnt three Million People out here, but its still fun to come out and see the guards and actually interact with them and see the place for the first time. Were doing it for the meme, man, all for the meme. Yeah, just to mess around. And just doing it for the memes, man. Theyre all here for the memes. Im 53 years old, neil, i dont know what that means, but theyre having a good time. [laughter] you know, buddy, youre the best. There could not be a more perfect reporter to cover this. Thanks. Neil thank you very much. Jonathan hunt. We were trying to get comments from aliens that might be involved, but they said were not commenting. More after this. We trust usaa more than any other company out there. They give us excellent customer service, every time. Our 18 year old was in an accident. Usaa took care of her car rental, and getting her car towed. All i had to take care of was making sure that my daughter was ok. 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This is the epicenter of this gm strike affecting now close to 50,000 gm workers, but they have just laid off 2000 hourly workers and furloughed 1200 workers separately at a Truck Assembly plant and those layoffs go into effect on monday. 700 more in the week, again the reverberation of this strike that could go on for a while. And back with us, kat and susan lee. He says its looking like it will drag on. It will. The impact are not only the, obviously the workers at the factories, but the vendors involved as well. I mean, these are the people that supply the parts to the cars. Neil thats right. That are also having this halo effect because of this strike thats happening. And whats more, thats going to become increasingly difficult for people that do own gm cars to get their cars fixed. So or to find gm cars. Well, we have about theres actually about, i talked to several people at Car Dealerships that deal gm cars and they say even though, sir, not in the immediate future will it have an impact of the they have about 70 days of inventory and after that all bets are off. Absolutely. And there already is that impact on some of the parts suppliers. Next year in ann arbor im from michigan, theyre warning people that they might be laid off and it goes down the chain from, you know, suppliers and you know the second tier and the third tier and so on and so forth. And the lost production costs are estimated to be 100 million a day. Thats a lot of money. Neil what do the workers want . Well, they want higher pay, they want secure jobs, they want the fact that parttime workers should be made fulltime. Yadda, yadda, yadda, theyre already being paid 60 if you include benefits as well. Neil when they say we helped you out and opposed to share some of that with us. Record profits, and share some with us, when we rescued you in 2008. Neil and the company says they are sharing the loot. They are and i think the argument is that they havent seen a raise since 2007. So they wanted to get a portion, they obviously wanted to make more money, however, they wanted, you know, more of a profit share, but the thing is, you know, to susans point, theyre making a lot of money. Im not necessarily on the side of the unions negotiating for higher wages. I mean, this is. I think also the consumer probably will be impacted because if you think about this, this goes past the 70 days in inventory that gm has, at some point you have to start raising prices especially with the tariffs that kicked with with aluminum. Neil buyers can go elsewhere. Were a ford family, actually. No, and then also, the Auto Industry some of these people have been working there forever i know my family and friends, they have the same jobs and the same consider Company Forever and its, you know, its not what it used to be so the contracts always cant be ladies, have you very very much. Before we go, i want today pass an on an item. The ukraine minister is denying the president of the United States donald trump put pressure on the Prime Minister during this call, the one call thats in question here, whether the president had a quid pro quo kind of a threat to the ukrainian leader, investigating these joe Biden Allegations got the aid. The investigation never happened a and thank you. Well, the Biden Campaign now on offense amid reports that President Trump repeatedly asked the ukrainian president to investigate the former vicepresident s son. Were going to take you through the accusations and counter accusations. Welcome to americas news headquarters from washington. 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