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House. Is democratic congressman Emmanuel Cleaver one of them . Well ask him. And what is that line that Ronald Reagan used to rip bureaucrats for . The nine most terrifying words in the english language are im from the government, and im here to help. Neil dont look now, but the government is here to help again. Its all about protecting us, but do they risk suffocating us . Both parties in were on it and on them, so lets get to it. Neil welcome, everybody, im neil cavuto. Happy saturday. The Government Back with a vengeance, forget about reining it n. This week we learned that the deaf set is already over a deficit is will over a trillion bucks, Elizabeth Warren is leading the Democratic Candidates with another plan that continues this piling on. To a woman named bolton, deirdre, to run through all the red. Deirdre well, you just mentioned that deficit, right, topping 1 trillion for the first time in seven years. Also we have to note the years not even finished yet, so separately we are going to see what this does to voters and their appetite for spending. Want to highlight a few of the programs specifically from senator warren. She is talk about expanding Social Security, and whos going to pay for it . The top tier percent p. Were going to expand Social Security, her vision is to give 200 per month for roughly 64 million recipients. She says her proposal will pull close to five million seniors out of poverty. She says that includes low income, females, disabled, minorities, former government workers that have been shortchanged by the existing structure of the program. In her press release, she says we need to get our priorities straight, we should be increasing Social Security benefits, asking the richest americans to contribute their fair share to the program. Separately, she says her plan would also extend solvency of the underfunded Social Security trust fund by 19 years. Now, her other programs also include some other costly factors, medicare for all, for example, mostly free college. When you add all of this up, treasury secretary Steve Mnuchin says it could all all bring our economy down. I think if you listen to the elizabeth warn plan, you know warren plan, it is 100 recession if not worse. Deirdre so clearly not a fan, but senator warren is rising in the polls. Her ideas are resonating with a lot of voters and, neil, you know this from our own proprietary the research here, health care a number one topic for any kind of voter, democrat, republic or independent. Neil deer drink, thank you very much. When it comes to spending, as deirdre pointed out, weve broken all records for deficit, one more month to go of this fiscal year. Now the question to ask is that mean more money coming out of your wallet . Trump 2020 advisory member jenna ellis reeves join us, as well as michael hop kips. Finish mike, let me begin with you and your sense that its always good to throw out a [inaudible] you help a lot of people, stick it to the rich, send a message youre not going to pay for it, someone else is. Yeah. Within the democratic primary i think theres this kind of race to see who can offer the biggest policy proposals. But also, you knowing republicans have its gone up insanely high neil thats not an excuse to just double down. True, but its a little disingenerallous for republicans to go after warren saying her plans are too expensive. Neil what do you think of that . Well, i think that it is definitely [laughter] of warren to come in and basically just completely negate capitalism and say, okay, were going to make sure that the top 2 are paying for this socialist policy. And i dont think thats actually resonating with voters. Whats resonating neil well, alluding to have them pay for the increased benefits for lower pay Social Security. Right. Why isnt anyone coming out and saying, okay, instead of taking from the rich and giving this away and making everyone supposedly equal, why not have a policy to say were going to incentivize you to then rise to that level . Why are we putting a cap on the prosperity of america . Thats what the democrats are coming out with. Theyre basically saying that the income of america is capped now, and so we are just going to have to divide all of the access that america currently has and make everyone equal. What resonates is the good economy, the low unemployment that is under the Trump Administration neil but youre both young people, all right . Im just going to get right under, and my Social Securitys okay. Yours, i wonder if youll even have it. So im just wondering wheres the discipline to address that the . Wheres the creativity when it comes to addressing this . I think we do have to extend the solvency of Social Security, but when it comes to Elizabeth Warrens plan, shes actually taken the man out of Donald Trumps playbook. I think shes going towards a populist, kind of playing towards the anger within both democrats and republicans and saying you havent gotten to appreciate all of the things that the American Economy neil why not step back to say maybe we can raise the retirement age, maybe we can grandfather this in . Those are Practical Solutions that have come up in the past that both parties ignore, and theyre afraid to touch it because its like the third rail, right . I think for millennials, which both michael and i are neil thats your problem. Absolutely, but thats why were not relying on government and putting all our eggs in the neil you just make the assumption about what Elizabeth Warren wanted to do, youre not going to get Social Security. I dont think we can bank on that, literally. And i think that for millennials, we are enterprising. Were making sure to take advantage. Michael just started his own firm, right . Youre making sure neil with Elizabeth Warren, he says ive got to do it on my own. Exactly. Government isnt a revenuegenerating institution neil [inaudible] what can i say . You know, to the conservative party. Neil youre not lets not go there. I think juan is starting the negotiations during the primary. You know, you dont give up everything during the primary. You kind of shift during the general and get towards the middle. Neil do you ever wish that we were half as creative coming up with ways to control spending as we are to mic taxes . Absolutely to hike taxes. Absolutely. Neil i didnt think answer that. [laughter] i think its a give and take, and right now weve got to figure out what the give is and what the take is. Neil i just see a lot of taking. Yeah. It should not be that it comes occupant of our pocket, and that is something that President Trump has definitely resonated with the voters neil hes the one that spent the record deficit. No, but a lot of people got more back in their tax return and, again neil both parties have to get serious about it. Absolutely. But thats more republicans and thats more kind of the old guard. Were seeing, actually, a more capitalist policy from the president. Neil hope springs eternal. Guys, sorry about your Social Security. [laughter] in the meantime, markets finish the week up on news that china could be loosening up some of the tariffs that would have hit my next guests home state really hard. Republican senator joni ernst joins us from the beautiful state of iowa. Senator, very good to have you. Thank you, neil. Neil we just got the first hints this week, and our hopes have been lifted inside past with promising signs. The chinese willing to relieve some tariffs, the president pushing back tariffs of his own a another couple of weeks, to mid october. What do you think . Is. I do think that we are approaching a deal, but we want a good deal as well, one that will benefit iowa. Farmers and manufacturers and the country as a whole. And i do think with the chinese economy teetering and the fact that they have african swine fever, there are so many contributing factors which could take us very well towards a good deal. And im very encouraged about the signs were seeing right now. Neil what are your farmers saying, senator . The president has always said hes giving them credits to make up for the losses. In fact, i think he has said to the effect that he has made them whole in their losses, but thats not the case. That is not the case, and while they do appreciate the additional dollars that are coming in from those tariffs, it doesnt make the farmer whole, it doesnt make the manufacturer whole at all. But what they do want is a good deal with china, and they support the president in that effort. Because the chinese have treated our American Farmers so poorly for so very, very long, but they want a good deal. And ive said this many times over, farmers want trade, not aid. Neil you know, senator, the president has hinted of being open to an interim deal. I think the white house has refuted that, so i dont know what the real skinny is on this, but that we would consider the low hanging fruit kind of deal where you get more aid to farmers, your state and others. But some of the thornier issues like intellectual property and all that would be addressed down the road. In other words, get the easy stuff done now, the more difficult stuff done later. Are you open to that . Well, i am open to whatever will move us forward with china. In the end, we do have to handle what we see in farm country and in manufacturing, but also we do have to think about intellectual property theft, forced Technology Transfers and other bad behavior by the chinese. So whatever allows us to move forward, keep the chinese at the table is going to be very important. In the end, we dont want to lose china that as a trading partner. We certainly hope to get to that point. But in the meantime, folks are saying lets make it right, lets force the chinese to negotiate, and we do want to see American Ingenuity coming out on top. And that means a good deal with china. Neil you know, senator, this was the week the president got rid of john bolton, his National Security adviser, and a lot of people interpreted that as a sign hardliners of Foreign Policy shown the door. Do you think he needs to get rid of the hardliners on this trade policy, that they need to be shown the door so the president in your face type of a deal with china . Well, i wouldnt say that because this is a president who, when compared to former president s, he is the one that has actually forced the issue with china. And that has been long overdue. So i do thank the president for stepping up to the plate, renegotiating some of these trade deals. Again, what i hear on the ground is, you know, farmers are feeling the pinch, but overall they want a better deal with china. And i do believe this president is going to deliver on that. Neil well, the reason i mention it, senator, is, you know, people like Peter Navarro who have a hardline approach and dont blink with the chinese, they might be forcing the president into a corner when at his core hes a dealmaker, hes pretty pragmatic when it comes to this is stuff. Maybe theyre hurting his chances to find such a deal. Certainly. And i would encourage the president to go with his gut too because he is a dealmaker, and we have a great deal sitting at the table with usmca, and we hope that Speaker Pelosi and the House Democrats will actually belly up and get that deal done. We need to see that move. Is so he is a dealmaker, and while were negotiating china, we do have other trade negotiations that we should be acting on. So i would encourage the house to step up, lets get usmca done. That provides us a little more leverage and a little bit of relief across farm country too that would allow us to stick it to china. Neil all right. Thank you very much, senator. That deal crafted with mexico and canada. The leaders, including President Trump, signed off on that some ten months ago, and theyre still negotiating that in the house. Senator, thank you very, very much. Fox news alert for you, the white house is saying the son of Osama Bin Laden was killed in a counterterrorism attack. Details are sketchy, but they are coming in fast. Well have more on that and much more after this. Our 18 year old was in an accident. Usaa took care of her car rental, and getting her car towed. All i had to take care of was making sure that my daughter was ok. If i met another veteran, and they were with another insurance company, i would tell them, you need to join usaa because they have better rates, and better service. Were the gomez family. Were the rivera family. Were the kirby family, and we are usaa members for life. Get your Auto Insurance quote today. Neil all right, shortly after the 18th anniversary of the 9 11 attacks, were getting word that hamza bin laden has been taken out a few years after his father was killed. Hamza bin laden wanted to follow in his fathers footsteps and lead this new movement against the United States. Again, were trying to get confirmation of this and the exact time all of this happened. Former Delta Force Commander on these developments. General, i know were hitting you with this, and its a latebreaking development, but if true and hes dead, we do know there are at least a dozen other sons out there. I dont know their plan, the succession interests, but what do you make of it . Yeah. Well, i think that its more of a psychological setback than an operational setback for alqaeda. And its also a psychological victory for the United States. Remember that hamza was not the leader of alqaeda. Thats a man named alzawahiri who is out of the Muslim Brotherhood who was bin ladens number two, and he still runs alqaeda. So what hamzas job was, at least reportedly, was to be the go between with alqaeda and all these other likeminded terror groups like boca aha ram, alqaeda in the arabian peninsula, alqaeda in iraq. So i think its a setback, but this probably happened over a year ago, so its not a lethal blow. Neil no, im glad you mentioned that, because we dont know the timing of any of this. What we do know, and ive discovered a little bit through a lot of business folks that i talk to was that Osama Bin Laden was part of the worlds richest families, as you know, and that a lot of that money still percolates through the family tree, so to speak, including benefiting hamza bin laden when he was alive and his brothers and others so its a threat in that regard. They do have the money to watch match their threaten ping dialogue. What do you make of that and how much of a threat is this contingent of bin laden kids who are not happy with the United States and the west in general . Well, they were an Industrial Construction company, a huge Industrial Construction company for all over the middle east. So they were billions of dollars there were billions of dollars that were made by this organization that bin ladens father ran, established and ranch and there is still lots of money in their coffers out there. I dont know the extent, you know, how wealthy they really are, but certainly having that kind of money was a factor in what, you know, what bin laden was doing before he was killed. And i think its a factor today Going Forward that they do have a lot of money that they can put into their terrorist activities out of their own pockets. Neil you know, general, this was the week we saw john bolton fired by the president of the United States. John bolton said he resigned, i dont think the details are as important as what it could mean. Rand paul, when i talked to him earlier this week, was delighted. I want you the react to this. The threat of war around the world is greatly diminished with bolton off the white house. Out of the white house. I think he had a naive point of view for the world that we should topple regimes everywhere and institute, you know, democratic governments, and we would make the world perfect or remake the world in our image and, frankly, it just doesnt work that way. Neil all right. What hes saying is were better off without this guy there. What do you think, general . Well, i think it was inevitable, neil. I would ask you, did you really think bolton was going to last there more than a year . He lasted 17 months. I think that rand paul is expressing what he has been very consistent in. He is against war anywhere, to be very honest with you, because hes a libertarian. That said, i think that, i think that bolton had some very good ideas, i think he was, he was a guy that had his time there in the white house to influence the president , but i knew when he went into that job that he was not going to stay because he has an irascible personality, and that bumped up against the same personality in donald trump. But i also think they got at crossespurposes on some key issues, north korea being one of them. Neil general, thank you very, very much. Glad to be with you. Neil all right, were getting word right now, this is coming in from the u. S. Customs and Border Protection, saying two Border Patrol agents were involved in a shooting last night where agents were involved in a shooting while performing a vehicle stop. We dont know much more than that, we just know that it got out of control. The incident is under investigation. Not only the fbi, the customs and Border Protection office looking into it and who else was involved. Well have more after this. 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At farmers, we know a thing or two because weve seen a thing or two. bert mmm. We are farmers. Bumpadum, bumbumbumbum neil we are learning a little bit more about this incident that happened on the border last night. U. S. Customs and Border Protection officials had apparently pulled over a vehicle presumably for speeding. We dont know much more than that. An incident ensued when one of the individuals in that car started firing on approaching deputies. They returned fire. One subject was pronounced dead at the scene, presumably one of the two occupants in that car. The other was injured, is expected to be okay. Were also told that one of the Border Protection officials was shot as well. He or she theyre not identifying the sex of that individual is expected to be okay as well. When we get more details on this, well, of course, or let you know. In the meantime, letting you know about actress felicity huffman. You know by now that shes going to go to jail for at least 14 days, going to pay a 30,000 fine in this College Admissions scandal thats getting bigger by the moment. A lot of others are following very, very closely. Lisa, good to have you. She, you know, threw herself at the mercy of the court, genuinely apolo secrettic. This is the woman that spent 15,000 to improve her daughters s. A. T. Scores, said she regretted it even after the punishment was meted out, deserves what she got, so where does this go . I guess its a baseline really for future cases, right . This is felicity huffman, shes a celebrity, she paid 15,000 to amend test scores and, look, she served jail time. That is something we have to look at because all of the other defendants in this case, all of the people that now have been indicted likely will get some form of jail time. Neil so Lori Loughlin has protested the argument that she did anything wrong with a half Million Dollars to get her, i think, two daughters into yes. Neil shes looking at a lot more time in jail. I would say undoubtedly Lori Loughlin will be facing jail time. Obviously, she has paid substantially more and has asked for substantially more. We know that her daughter went to usc, took a spot not only from academia, but also from a sports athlete. So there are a lot of elements to that case, and theres no remorse, right . Shes fighting this. I think in the future you might see some pressure on her, her lawyer to take a plea. Neil i was readinged today that her plea would involve at least a year, two years jail time. Yeah. Like i said, i dont think she can walk away unscathed on this. The amount of public outcry, the amount of privilege and entitlement, i mean, it all comes down to the fact that people want other people to be accountable, and this trickles down to mainstream america. Everybodys child has to go through this process fairly, you and i are watching our children go through it, go into colleges and work hard neil i told my son im not going to pay for the Community College he picks, hes going to have to do it on his own. But do you get a sense here that this is going to drag out a while . Because there are, i think, 30 some odd pending cases here as this ballooned. Its going to go on for a while. You know what . I think, actually, it will go the other way now that she has met neil real fastsome. I think that now the prosecutor is going to have an easier time settling cases. I think now that we see a baseline, i think they were waiting for this after the stanford coach didnt get jail time. I think that kind of set a level where people werent really comfortable, but now were seeing whether or not people like the 14 days in jail as opposed to what they were looking for, a months time. Neil the prosecutors and judges use such benchmarks . If youre in another courthouse half a country away, do you use that as your litmus test . I have to use other case law in the country, especially if im an attorney representing my client. I use anything that benefits my client. This certainly isnt going to benefit the other clients that dont want jail time. But on the other hand, it will benefit them trying to lessen jail time by saying, look, this is the benchmark, this is what my client is guilty of, please be lenient. At least we have some baseline now. Prior to this we really didnt, and i think a lot of people were thinking that everybody in this scheme was going to just skate away without having to face any significant jail time. So i think in that regard were seeing some level of culpability, and now i think we need to see what happens next, you know, what happens to nobodys really talked about all the students that didnt get who or that wait list. Neil so let me ask you this as a mom, more than as a great lawyer, a great mom. Do you think this changes the way our kids and what we do to help them any way we can to get into a good school or most of the times its just helping them with the application process and everything else, but that the stuff that used to go on with a wink and a nod, especially with wealthy people oh, ill donate to the school, whatever do you think all that stuff stops . I think that that persists. I do think its a cost benefit analysis. I mean, look, its all illegal. You cant buy a seat in a school. People that donate a library, at least i think in somebodys mind somewhere, not particularly mine, theres a benefit. The benefit is to the school, you are giving up something neil and then the kid has to make it on his or her own, if theyre a moron, theyre not going to get in. Yeah. And your kid has to know, look, this is the real world, right . There are still kids that are going to persevere. But in this case there are a classes of students that really did not get a fair shake, and i dont hold the institutions accountable, but it wouldnt be a bad thing to reach out to your top ten wait lists that didnt get usc because somebody else got it and say, hey, listen, if you still want to come here, why dont you come here. Neil good mom, good lawyer. Lisa, thank you very much. Good luck with the application process. You too. [laughter] neil attorney general william barr is has now got that fisa report that shows how an investigation of the Trump Campaign began. Now the question is what he does with it. Senator john kennedy is very curious, after this. Neil all right. He has it, now what is he going to do with it . Im talking about the attorney general of the United States, bill barr, who has the Inspector General, mike horowitzs, at least draft record. In other words, the report that led to the investigation of team trump and on and on we go. Mark meredith at the white house with more on all of this. What do we know, mark . Reporter good morning. President trump is aware of these latest developments because hes been retweeting some Republican House members this morning that have been talking about this, and its that headline that youre mentioning right now, the report that the Inspector General is close to finishing his report about the chain of events that led to the investigation of the 2016 campaign for the Trump Campaign, specifically one individual. Now, the Justice Departments Inspector General, michael horowitz, told Congress Late friday that hes nearly finished with the report for viewing whether the fbi followed the law when it applied for a warrant to surveil carter page. Page was investigated over concerns of russian interference in the election. Some have said that the surveillance was an abuse of power. This is the letter that horowitz sent to Congress Late friday. He wrote, quote we have now begun the process of finalizing our report by providing a draft of our factual findings to the department and the fbi for classification determination and marking. Now, horowitz says this has been an extensive process, that they have collected over one million records for review and conducted some 100 interviews. Several republican lawmakers, neil, say that they want to hear from horowitz directly about this as well as review the report. Heres what one republican senator had to say earlier this week. The Senate Judiciary committee will call mr. Horowitz, and he will testify under oath about his report. Were going declassify as much as we can including the fisa warrant applications, let you read it for yourself. Transparency and accountability is my goal. Reporter and while this report is now being reviewed, theres still no exact timeline, neil, of when it will be completely finished. That is still up in the air at this point p. Neil . Neil all right. Mark meredith, thank you, my friend. Senate Judiciary Committee member is joining us right now, a very crucial fellow, you know him well, senator john kennedy from the state of louisiana. What do you want to know about whats in this . Number one, i would ask the attorney general to work sunday. He probably does anyway. After church, read the report American People. Released to the theyre entitled to know what happened. Number two, if fbi agents and Justice Department officials have the right to their own political beliefs, but they cant act on them. If somebody in the 2016 campaign did and tried to hurt President Trump or hurt secretary clinton, the American People need to know. They need to be dismissed from the Justice Department and fbi, and if necessary, they need to be prosecuted with great vengeance and furious anger. We need to get this behind us and restore the credibility of the fbi and the Justice Department. Now, if somebody didnt do anything wrong, nobody did anything wrong, then the lets tell the American People. But and im interested in having the Judiciary Committee get into this, but first i want the American People to have a chance to read the report. Neil all right. Appty mccabe, of course andy mccabe, of course, the former Deputy Director, his lawyer is indicating that prosecutors should drop this probe because his client has not been indicted for lying to investigators. We really dont know the full details of that. Do you . No, but i do know this, plenty of people are prosecuted by the fbi and justice for lying to an fbi agent. Now, heres a case where an fbi agent lied to an fbi agent. If the Justice Department and the fbi are going to maintain any credibility, it seems to me that they have of to treat everybody equally under the law. And once again, if mr. Mccabe did lie to an fbi agent, he should be prosecuted with great vengeance and furious anger. I mean, whats good for the goose is good for the gander. Neil so, senator, when this whole investigation started your argument has been and other republicans that it was started under specious circumstances, that the whole investigation of the president when he was running for president and the people around him was built on a false premise, was built on a lie. Do you still subscribe the that . To that . Yes. And i hope im wrong, but heres my suspicion, there were a handful of men and women at justice and the fbi who acted on their political beliefs. Now, some tried to hurt the president. I think some of them tried to hurt secretary clinton. Mr. Comey, im not alleging it, but he could have tried to hurt both. The American People need to know. The American People are smart enough to figure it out, but theyve got to have the facts. Stop the speculation and the innuendo. Attorney general barr, read that report, send it back to our Inspector General and let the American People see it. Neil if i can switch to the threat of russia and all the back and forth which is so intrinsic in this probe, as you know, senator, i had jim mattis here. As you know, hes promoting a book, the former defense secretary, who was saying im still very worried about vladimir putin, i call him a threat im pair a are a phrasing theyll be involved in our 2020 campaign. What do you think of that . I trust russia and china and iran and north korea like i trust a Jussie Smollett police report. You cant trust em. And theyre not going to stop. Theyre not our friends. Since President Trump took office, they dont love us anymore, but i think, by god, they respect us now. And weve got to remain vigilant. That doesnt mean we dont we shouldnt talk with them. The toughest job for a president is to deal with people who dont share your values but whose interests are important to your interests. But youve got to go into it with eyes open, wide open. Neil all right. So when other, more hardliners i think john bolton was among them, hes out of a job maybe because of this view that the president s overtures to some of these folks was a little over the top. Now, of course, hes tossed over the side. Does that direction, does that approach the president takes, which was at the core of the john bolton i cant deal with it, do you share any of that . Well, look, ive never met mr. Bolton. He ive listened to him, ive watched him, ive read a portion of one of his books. He has his point of view. I think he loves america. I dont know what happened in the white house. I do though this number one, you cant, you cant leak stuff that hurts your boss, if that is indeed what happened. Number two, i have Great Respect for mr. Bolton, but president s, any president , is entitled to surround himself with advisers of his or her choice. And those are the rules. Mr. Bolton, who was not the president the president is the president , and he has the right to change horses. And he did. Neil he did, indeed. They work at the pleasure of the president , no matter who he is. Thank you, senator, very good seeing you. Thank you. Neil all right. Democrats took a very big step this week toward advancing the impeachment investigation ball. Some other democrats are worried theyre doing it at the expense of some issues that are winnable for them. And because theyre so impeachmentobsessed, theyre going to lose this thing. Is Emmanuel Cleaver one of them . Well talk to him. Ome, that day. Ive been plotting to destroy you. Sizing you up. Calculating your every move. You think this is love . This is a billion years of tiger dna just ready to pounce. And if you have the wrong Home Insurance coverage, you could be coughing up the cash for this. So get allstate and be better protected from mayhem, like meow. This is the family who wanted to connect. 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But its caused a bit of aer is gulf, if you will er is gulf within the Democratic Party because some are fearing, including nancy pelosi, that its distracting voters who think that the party is only concerned about one thing, impeachment, when the party has a lot of good ideas on some of these other issues that they care more about. I wonder if democratic congressman Emmanuel Cleaver is one of them. He hails from missouri, and hes usually a calmer presence in this sort of heated political environment, and im always happy to have him on. Good to have you. Good to be with you. Neil what do you think of this back and forth let the hearings begin, weve got to get hopping on this, we have over 100 members who agree donald trump should be impeached, are you among them . I have called for an impeachment inquiry. I dont think we are at a point now where we ought to begin impeachment hearings. Neil whats the difference . Well, the difference is the impeachment inquiry is trying to gather information, trying to pull together, you know, factual information about all of the allegations that weve heard as it relates to the election and President Trump. Now, the weird thing is i didnt even, i didnt get to this point. I was aye been one of the last people to come here, but i got here because i was angry at the president attacking elijiah cummings, a represent frif from baltimore, and then the American People who live in that community that he equated with a vermininfested community. Now, that has nothing to do with the other things, it was bothering me that the president of the United States was verbally attacking a sitting member of congress and a city. But to go back neil thats not an impeachable offense. Its not, thats what im saying, and its not. I became angry over something that had nothing to do with it. Neil whatever your views, congressman, on the subject do you think that nancy pelosi might be right intimating that this obsession and she tried to tamp it down but that it is distracting voters and maybe ticking them off and theyre thinking all this party wants to do is its going to hurt you guys . What do you think . I think that Nancy Pelosis absolutely correct. I think that its okay to do oversight, which is what were doing which is an impeachment inquiry. Were doing oversight. But, look, people are saying there are a unhundred members of the Democratic Caucus who are supporting it, keep in mind there are a hundred more who are not. The other thing is that, look, impeachment is serious business. To do impeachment, youre overturning an election of the people of the United States. And that has to be dealt with very, very cautiously, very, very seriously and factually. So i dont think we a ought to jump out there, and i think as long as nancy pelosi is the speaker, were not going to do it. And i spent about an hour or so yesterday, maybe two hours, with former representative Elizabeth Holtzman from new york, the 9th district at the time, she was on the Judiciary Committee involved with the impeachment of richard nixon. And the one thing that everybodys upset with is that when the articles of impeachment were drawn, they were drawn by republicans and democrats. Neil thats right. Weve got to Work Together on this. Im not going to go out and say lets overthrow the election. Neil congressman, i didnt mean to jump on you there. A break thats going to start in three seconds. Its not just easy. Its havingjeromebettis onyourflagfootballteam easy. Go get em, bus ohhhh [laughing] cmon bus, cmon hey, wait, wait, wait hey man, i got your flag i got your flag, man i got your flag its geico easy. With licensed agents available 24 7. 49 nothing woo neil all right, well, talk about adding insult to Mother Nature injury, another weather system blowing near the bahamas right now, devastate thed already but hurricane dorian. Steve harrigan in the middle of all of that on whats going on now. Hey, steve. Reporter neil, the exact spot in the bahamas where no one wanted this to happen. Two weeks ago it was hurricane dorian, 185 mile per however winds, category five storm, today its a Tropical Storm, Tropical Storm humberto. Wind speeds just 40 Miles Per Hour but still to those damaged houses and to those people really seeking shelter, it is another blow. The real concern could be the rain, anywhere from 46 inches of rain, and youve got people on that island just trying to get their feet back on the ground. Its really a do it yourself project of repair, not a lot of help from the government. Youve got people up on roofs with blue tarps, hammers, no electricity the, just trying to cover themselves from the rain, and a lot more is on the way. This also slows the aid flow to the islands, a lot of International Aid groups trying to get food, gasoline, power to those i islands. It slows down the recovery efforts. Their still going through the theyre still going through the wreckage trying to find bodies killed by dorian. Another 1300 people still missing. Neil, back to you. Neil that number missing has gone down a little bit, but there are still concerns that a lot of them might never be found, right . Reporter a lot of them could be out to sea and some unusual circumstances too. Because of the storm, its crushed infrastructure to actually let people know youre alive. Sometimes you have to get on a plane, come to nassau and tell people, yes, you still are alive, you still are a teacher. Your schools been destroyed, but youd still like to get paid this month. Neil . Neil steve, thank you for your incredible reporting from that region. More to come. Their hope is to avoid this next storm which is just on the verge of becoming a trap kohl storm. Meanwhile, there is a new House Freedom caucus chair. His name is andy biggs. He is going to weigh in on this big deficit that is topping a trillion dollars. And the sopranos star who is helping to keep students safe in school with Cutting Edge Technology. Whats that all a about . After this. Hope to our patients like viola. Her team treated her cancer and strengthened her spirit. So viola could focus on their future. Cancer Treatment Centers of america. Appointments available now. All right. I promise you, wed try to get an update on the shooting incident at the border. U. S. Customs and Border Protection, two agents were involved in a shooting. They pulled over a vehicle they thought was speeding, asked for license and the driver of the car shot at the officer. Injured, but will be okay. One of the assailants in that car is dead and another injured. We dont know much more than that. Maybe my next guest does. Hes the upcoming house caucus chair. Thank you for taking the time. Thanks, neil. Good to be with you. Neil can you update us, what youve learned about this . Well, the information i have, which is unofficial because theyre still investigating is pretty much what you have, that they pulled an individual over, that the person started shooting, hit the officer in the chest and he was wearing his gear, that protected him. And his backup officer fired and killed the shooter. So thats the short end of it, but theyre still investigating and hopefully well get more information later today. So this was on the u. S. Side of the border . Thats correct. Neil and do we know whether these were individuals here illegally . Ive been given some information that they havent fully verified yet, so im kind of uncomfortable saying. Neil no, i understand. Theyre still trying to verify that information. Neil the one officer was hit and youve been very patient with my hammering you on this. I want to be clear. Hes going to be okay . Yes, my understanding hes already been released. That the gear worked as it was supposed to. He suffered, i think, very minor injuries physically of course. So we dont know what else is going to happen there, but it looks like hes going to be okay. Neil all right, now switch gears to your new title heading the House Freedom caucus, a largely conservative group, safe to say, 40some odd individuals. You want to watch spending and strict with the government books, but all of this comes at a time, congressman, im sure youre aware, the spending spigot is out of control. Trillion dollars this year, we have a month to go the fiscal year. Im not blaming republicans any more than democrats, its seemingly an unstoppable problem. What does the Freedom Caucus want to do about it . We found two parties that democrats and republicans, and weve got to push to stop this. I think that systematically weve got a problem. I think the process itself is broken. I dont think you should have two committees, separate one on budget and one on appropriations. Im going to keep advocating for elimination of one of the committees to try to change the structure and weve got to keep speaking on it and hammering on it and nobody wants to make hard decisions and thats part of the problem with the procedures in process right now. We go to continuing resolution or shortterm spending bills. We dont even know what the poison pills are going to be in there. Are they going to continue to Fund Abortion with federal dollars . Are they going to prevent us from building border fence and using other funds for emergency immigration control . Who knows what theyre going to have in there and we have got to seek transparency and the best way to seek transparency, in my opinion, is to consolidate those committees into one committee and open up the books a little bit more frequently and more often. Neil do you think republicans should lead on this . Because after all, the reputation of the Republican Party had been, were very serious about budget deficits, were very serious about spending restraint, but, you know, republicans have the run of the table and ran this up even more. So, when the president chastise the democrats for spending like crazy, is he in a big old glass house . How do you guys get out of this . I think republicans should lead on this. Neil theyre not doing this. Were not leading on it and thats part of the problem and i think thats where the Freedom Caucus comes in. Its not just a Freedom Caucus. I can tell you that i was pleased that so many people voted against raising the credit or the debt and the spending caps just not too long ago, so many republicans. And so i know that its not just Freedom Caucus, there are other members in our conference that want to do the same thing. We just have to get on the same page and push forwardment i mean, neil, there have been people in congress that tell me when they started this, a five year budget balancing plan and seven years and ten years and now im hearing 15 years and it just never happens and you have to make the hard decisions and be willing it be accountable for the decisions you make. Both parties signed the deal that will keep the government operating past the deadline and and report on how you do that, both have signed off on hundreds of billions dollars more spending. Theres not even an attempt to control the growth. Its got to be troubling, right . Right, and thats why so many of us voted no on that. Because you have to step in and say, look, we have these caps for a reason, and Congress Puts the president in awkward position. Were basically going to say, guess what . You get to take this shortterm spending deal or you get to shut down government and thats not neither one is popular with the American People, but the one thing thats most dangerous is to continue to spend far more than we bring in. So, you know, you actually have record revenue coming in. You have growth and revenue to the federal government, but guess what . Youre outpacing that by almost two to one in the Growth Department in the spending and this is just irresponsible and it cant go on and im afraid that its congress runs on kind of a, when the crisis comes, thats when we act and i have to tell them, i have to tell my colleagues, the crisis is here. We have to start acting more fiscally reasonable than were acting now. Weve got to change the processes that we have. Weve got to face the facts. Weve got to face tough decisions because youre know the house, its a twoyear election span and Everyone Wants to say lets not do it during an election year, well, when do you do it . When do you do it then . Congress, i can always come up with a reason not to start it today. Andy biggs, great to have you. Thank you very much. And mechanics to get this done, one is to address the 12 spending bills that all have to be written off and approved in order to get this agreement that keeps the government going. Here is the thing though, time is running out. Here to get through this, and to help us see what i mean by the time running out thing, lucas, our correspondent. What are we looking at . Neil, its september and that means that congress is back and so is a looming shutdown. With both sides deadlocked, a continuing resolution or cr might be needed. Think we are going to need a cr because this is the shorter it is, the better we are and we stay working on it in a bipartisan way. But, neil, not all senators agree. Ill fight a full cr, it destroys the military budget process. It really puts our nation at risk militarily. This week Mitch Mcconnell accused the democrats of failing to uphold their part of the bargain by introducing addones he referred to as poison pills. The democratic whip responded. One mans poison is another mans vitamin. We think some of these are good solid amendments. Whether were persuade the not to offer them depends whether we have an agreement. Mark esper recently approved spending, 3. 6 billion dollars of pentagon Construction Funds to build 750 miles of wall along the southern border. Democrats were outraged. I think there is real concern about taking money from military construction, from health and Human Services thats been allocated by this congress to do other things and take that money from the border wall. Prognosis leaders have long complained crs are bad for the military because they reup old spending levels and its simply a bandaid, neil. Neil thank you, very very much. I just want yto update you on this report, hamza bin laden is dead, hes the son of Osama Bin Laden who was killed years back by u. S. Navy seals at his house in pakistan. And hamza, deemed to be his fathers sort of heir to the terrorist group not only compromise quoting the white house, alqaeda important leadership skills, but important activities of the group. Separately were learning tonight that the president will be having dinner with the parents of otto warmbier, and some of ottos friends, the young man tortured by north korea authorities and soon died after. And the president will meet with those parents dinner at the white house. We will have more after this. 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S trying to target, you know, the governor and mayors of all of these key cities where its out of control who are democrats. This is perfect. I thought when he went when he said that in baltimore, i thought it was good and i think going to l. A. And confronting the homelessness crisis, it is a huge crisis. Everybody knows, you know, in San Francisco there have been conventions that have actually said were not going to have a convention here because this is just disgusting. So, the fact that the president is shining a light on these, you know, liberal communities by saying that it doesnt work, i think its a black eye to them. They havent come up with a solution. No, if donald trump comes there and they have a committee and they seem to be working and trying to try on Different Solutions to combat that crisis, i think thats great. But more importantly, its basically showing how inept the other side is because they cant handle one huge issue thats a black eye for the United States. Neil you know, michael, theyve spent a lot of money in the state and collectively over the years, the cities, l. A. , San Francisco and way north to seattle, same issue. No shortage of funds on a problem thats only gotten worse. A big portion is a Mental Health issue. When you look at washington d. C. , st. Elizabeth was a place where people could go to at night who are homeless and get treatment and then in the morning they had to leave. And they cant do that anymore. Weve cut budgets for but democrats run the roost there so they would control the budget. But the federal government is the one who does a lot of Mental Health allocation of funds, so youre blaming this on republicans . I think that both sides could do better with Mental Health. Neil trying to be fair and balanced here. John, i understand in seriousness that nothing seems to work. The president shedding light on it could cut both ways. In california we talk about a lot of money, close to 1 trillion dollars that state and local governments have spent in california on antipoverty programs. There if you view the metric of poverty based on the supplemental poverty measurement, which includes the cost of living, which is a more fairway of looking at it. California is at the top. So for President Trump to go there and confront and say what are you doing and what is actually going on. These are failed policies. Hes going to the epicenter of where democrats and liberal policies have failed. So if we go by the maxim which is appropriate, which we cant judge policy outcomes based on intent, but rather by result. He has a great opportunity to go in and say state and local governments are failing and its not necessarily the federal governments responsibility to step in, but to say what are republicans and what are conservative priorities here, that is not just the presidency, but down ticket. But i think thats a really, really great opportunity not just for his presidency in 2020, but looking at the conservative policy priorities as a whole. But it should be unacceptable, i think, for mayors, for people running in these local, you know, cities and districts to be reelected, as lets say current status, when you have the people, the community is growing, its going, you know, to more districts. So, you know, i see that this has got to be stopped and i cant believe that were and its the money. Right . If businesses eshew conventions, then whats attracting them to keep building and building and bigger and bigger. And democracies, theyll basically go by those that are their own utility nonnot constituency and thats where state and local governments have to be held accountable and held accountable to the nation not just to their own constituency that clearly theyre failing. Local municipalities have to keep balanced budgets which the federal government doesnt have to do. Its harder when you have urban areas and people, the high cost of living and and its doubling down, so when the government wants to cover medical and related costs to protect illegals, you can argue that hes compounding the problem, not solving the problem. And a lot of legal residents in california and some of the other cities are saying, hey, what about me . Yeah, but in urban areas, what youre having is high cost of living where are the taxes going . California is one of the highest taxable states. California shimmed out more tax money than they take in. You and i both know that. Neil a lot of californians hop over and go to vegas because it gets to be outrageous. Theres an income tax kind of disparate, but when it comes to the homeless crisis are you worried as a democrat, the president goes there and highlights some of these problems, quite right to say that both parties contributed although a lot of these were led by good, fondthinking liberals who thought this was the right thing to do and now theyve realized trillions of dollars in theyre not getting the bang for the buck. Do you worry that the president will make that obvious and that your good heart is costing people a lot of money . I hope that the president gets this one right, but empathy isnt exactly hits strong point so i dont think that hes going to be able to solve the homelessness problem. The facts are and to Say Somethings not working, right . Its out of control. It is and we have to do something about it. And theres also the liberal policy as the 15 minimum wage and running on that. And even the republicans are a lot of them arent though, and if we actually look at the capit capitalist mentality and that people can earn and have a job as well. Were basically pricing out companies, pricing out people who dont have a College Education and they need the lesser paying jobs in order to make a living. So this is a failed policy in california. Most people arent homeless because they cant find a job. There are extenuating circumstances, and Mental Health issues and and that may be. The people visiting the city dont want theres not a lot of people fleeing california, california is doing very well. Neil well have a lot more on this and this report thats out. Everyone wants to know whats in it after this. Were woven together by the moments we share. Everything you need, all in one place. Expedia. Ahh. Your teeth hurt . Sensitivity. Gotta do something about it. 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So does this next guy who is eager to find out whats in that ig report. The former House Oversight Committee Chairman trey gowdy. Good to have you back. How are you. Im fine. Neil help me with this. Its conjecture at this point. We do know that the attorney general has the draft of the report, but i dont know if he can put out anything on the draft. What do you think hes doing with it. Two things, number one, classification review. I think its in everyones best interest to have as much of this material public as possible, but there are certain equities you have to protect. So theres a classification review, but secondarily, and this is true with every ig report. You send the report to the agency or the entities involved for a fact check. So, in other words, bill barr cant tell michael horowitz, go found different facts, but if theres an error, if you know, look, mike is good, but hes not perfect. Just like judges circulate opinions and other folks will send memos to their partners, say, look, did i get this right, thats what the ig is doing. Hes saying look at this, if you see any factual error, bring it to my attention before i make it public. Neil if its proven or at least the Inspector General laid the groundwork that all of this started on a lie, or on a fiction, what is andy barr times, what does attorney general barr did with that . It depends and there will be two fictions, if you will. Remember, neil, theres the spring of 2016 which is when we think the Russian Investigation began and that led to the peter strzok opening the file in july and then youve got fisa. So there are two lines of inquiry. Whether or not the original investigation was factually predicate, thats important and then you have the use of the dossier and the surveillance of american citizens. So my guess is horowitz has looked at both. If he finds malfeasance then hes going to do what he did with comy, which is there wont be an indictment, but hopefully consequences in the court of Public Opinion and this history. If there are potential crimes, horowitz will refer those to the only entight in our society that can prosecute crimes which is the executive branch, in this case the department of justice. Neil you know, congressman, a federal prosecutor is now recommending charges against the fbi former number two, Deputy Director andy mccabe. Since that time, for lying, essentially for lying to authorities. Since that time, were told that mr. Mccabes lawyer has said that prosecutors should drop the probe because apparently earlier investigations show that he did know the lie. I dont know who is telling the truth, but if theres no proof that he lied, do you agree with his lawyer, cease, desist, move on . I dont think his lawyer is saying andy mccabe didnt lie. I dont think anybody is saying that. I think his lawyer is saying, a false statement is one of the elements for prosecution and it has to be the lawyer is saying he has not been andy mccabe indicted for lying to investigators. I dont know what they describe as a lie or misrepresentation of the facts, but go ahead. Well, keep in mind what andy mccabe said. I heard a clip of him. He said i never intentionally misled. Thats different from misleading someone so theyre playing a legal game. Every defense attorney in the country doesnt want their client indicted. Theres nothing news worthy about a defense attorney saying hey, dont indict my client. Well see what the grand jury does. I said it the other night, its wildly unpopular, but in this country youre presumed innocent until a judge or jury says otherwise. Neil amid all of this drama, and this is going ahead, jerry nadler wants impeachment hearings Going Forward. And some are concerned its going too far and distracting on what democrats find more appealing to voters. Where is this going . Boy, you talk about mishandling something from day one, nadler has mishandled. I mean, if we are debating nomenclature between impeachment investigation, and theyve already lost. It was on the Mueller Report and we were underwhelmed. And then weighted on mueller to testify and thats going to breathe life into this investigation. That was catatonic. That was pathetic. And nadler that hes got a primary in his own democrat and people that run the party in the house, which are the progressives. Neil, when you are calling witnesses from an impeachment 40 years ago, ill give him some free legal advice, you aint got much of a case if youre calling witnesses like john dean from watergate. What does that have to do with trump . So, this has been a disaster from day one and i dont expect that to change. Neil all right. Well watch it closely, congressman. Thanks for coming in. Always good seeing you. Yes, sir, you too. 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Neil but you dont mention guns, as much as well, i can tell you because by looking into all of these things, if they would have democrats they go to sleep at night, all they say is gun control, universal background checks, but they refuse to look at if you dont arrest these kids when they threaten lives, they have no background. Neil and he legally had access. Yeah, he bought the gun legally. But if we would have had him arrested for threatening to kill, right, or fortre tresspasg at the school after he threatened to shoot the school up or threatening to rape kids, he wouldnt have been able to and going back to middle school of killing people and its on record. Thats why with the background checks it doesnt make sense to me. If democrats dont want to arrest juveniles when they commit crimes. Neil and they say, hey, youve got to be careful with this. And thats why its up to the parents and grandparents to know whats going on in the school. And they should go out and purchase my book, why meadow died. Neil and did nikolas cruz know his victims . You said meadow didnt know him and she was one of 17 killed, 17 were injured. Did he know them, did he target them . He was just a psychopath sick kid for Nursery School. He got kicked out of Nursery School for biting kids and scratching your daughter was trying to help others. My daughter was a fighter until the end, neil. She was on the third floor. She was shot, this teacher she had led her out into the hallway into gunfire and she was shot four times and covered a freshman, neil. Fighting until the end and at the end she was shot another five times, and they both got killed. While that deputy waited outside. It happened and my life will never be the same. Neil and thats andrew pollock. I understand there have been better than 300 books written by parents of kids who were lost in shooting. Ive got to tell you that andrews was gripping and read it, but not without a box of tissue. And you realize everything was out there to pursue nikolas cruz. Andrews to use this technology to try to the principal behind this, and the guy you might recognize as vito from the spanos, i shook his hand and i will not argue with anything he says. You might be another story. Welcome, gentlemen. You took an interest in this because you have a child in Elementary School and you saw what happened and you didnt want that to happen. Right, i was talking to my neighbor who happens to be lees aunt and one of the incidents happened, my daughterer viviana was six at the time and she said, you know, my nephew lee is doing great work, maybe you should see him. I went to see him and was so impressed with what hes doing, i know a lot of people, ive met a lot of people, id like to help. Not only in schools. I just took him to the great people at Lowes Home Improvement in North Carolina and i continue to meet people and introduce and theyre always so impressed after lee does the presentation. Its just remarkable how they want to expand and go forward. Neil and i understand this so we know more about your company, but i was wondering it does provide cameras everywhere and a way for police on hand to see images that maybe with what happened in the case of parkland they could have pounced on sooner. We realized after parkland seconds matter. Like andy said, a few seconds, a few of these people could be alive. We want to get the First Responders information as soon as possible. And with the lock down, they hit the button so that Law Enforcement can see. Neil they have the cameras on, but this gets it to police and locks the doors of the school. It locks the doors and let them know that theyre in a lockdown and get in the classroom kick. Release doors, speak over the pa and gives an Immediate Response time. Neil what about catching the shooter. And the weird thing, from pollocks book they knew about him and a lot of kids when told it was cruz, they were not at all surprise. If that picture were available as was getting into the school, that that could have gotten authorities a headsup, right . Exactly, using facial recognition technology. If hes on a suspension list or expulsion list and alert did he have a disguise, a facial disguise . Not that would have eliminated that. When he got out from the uber, and seen that in a perimeter camera. Neil who would be watching . Most people are not watching people going into a school. The cops are alerting. We set up the software to set up alerts to security personnel, safe members, as well as any guard personnel within the school. Neil joe youre looking at that and there are a lot of privacy advocates that say, whoa, whoa, whoa, youre going one step too far. You say . I say if its going to save lives, lets, you know, fix it or, you know, whatever has to be done because if that would have happened and you would have been alerted, i mean, its happened, who knows i dont want to speculate, but, you know. Neil i know. Do you think that schools should have, you know, a lot of them make it very tough for someone to get in, even parents who come in, theyre locked and they have to be buzzed in. In some cases and they come in blazing, and could yours handle that. Four points, infrastructure hardening, perimeter, see something, Say Something, god forbid they do get in, the intergreated response, seconds matter. Neil and a lot of money and a lot of skoo schools dont have the money. The grants, andy is in partnership for districts, were going to start applications with andrew pollock. Neil you have to know the strange characters who are trying to get into the school. Who would be doing that watching . I think the key is knowing who is expelled, who is suspended. Typically when we found that the people coming to the buildings are known, known potential threats so having that data base and knowing who the potential threat it makes it easier to control the situation. Neil for your child, lets say, a concern about another kid in the class who is just weirding him out and we always hear of these cases about you there was one in the miamidade Public School system, a student who had terrifying drawings and a kid drawing terrifying stuff transferred out of the school. He didnt mean to do it and now hes ostracized and out. Its the world we live in, neil. You cant kid Say Something on facebook and you set off an alert. It is, and kids should be educated about that, you know, its just a different world and its not like it was so be careful what you say and what you do because youre going to have a problem. Neil do either of you have any thoughts on this push, 145 ceos who have been pushing congress to get guns under control, do something about them . Do you think thats part of the mix . I talked to andrew pollock about it, he says essentially its backwards. Thats not the issue as much as this is. I think we focus on the issue at hand and the information hardening this target. Neil and this kid got his guns legally through the system. A lot of things we have to work on as well, when it comes to technology, when it comes to training. A lot of schools arent properly trained what to do during an active shooter. What we can do is the holistic approach to really train and use technology to make sure this doesnt happen again. Have you talked to your kids, be prepared, this is what you do . You know, i point things out to her on the news and they, you know, go through it at school, but its reality. Of course, theyre not thinking about it all the time. I am, you know, if im in a populated area and always thinking like, what if i start hearing shots. What am i going to do . Where is my daughter . Where is my wife if shes with me. Neil and god help the person that would challenge you. Its going to be a long day. Thank you very, very much. Andrew pollock behind it and weve got to do something and this is a step in the right direction. More after this. Were woven together by the moments we share. Everything you need, all in one place. Expedia. I had no idea that my grandfatherfe changing moment for me. Was a federal judge in guatemala. He was an advocate for the people. A voice for the voiceless. Bring your Family History to life like never before. Get started for free at ancestry. Com in the last year, of cybercrime every second. When a criminal has your personal information, they can do all sorts of things in your name. 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Well, two kind of very different issues here. One is, with these juul pods, ecigarettes, theres just not enough data then theyre highly addictive and targeted at children. When it comes to children, its an easy political win and something to look into. Neil youre for that . Yes. And you look at the google side of it. They have 90 of search, between google and facebook almost 60 of all digital ad sales, how much power do you want one company to have. Neil we used to say that about other companies and theyre gone . Like oil victrola. Neil exactly. The radio. The power that google has has never been seen by any other company and at one point, how good is that for commerce to have and that is an argument. It is an argument and i think there are some things in common. The Tech Companies say were just a Delivery System for your content and thats what juul is saying, youre the Delivery System and its not our fault that your kids put in marijuana and other products in and cause themselves in with the vitamin e or dont these products help people get off tobacco. I dont think that, altrea changed their name. Probably would have been part of the strategy. So many billions if they thought it was a destroyer. The problem is its not nick cor nickorette gunman. I think that Melania Trump started the juul crackdown and i think shes right. Shes got a teenage son. Its like having jolly ranchers with nicotine on them. Neil be careful what you wish for. I know youre a capitalist and for you to be espousing this probably goes against your grain. To go after bacon and why cant we just card these kids like we card everybody for liquor, for example, why cant you be 21 the similarity with tech, were going afte after traditio cigarettes. And the juul thing slipped in. Nobody paid attention to it. Neil spillover effect . A spillover effect, its something highly addictive to the most vulnerable. Neil all right. I wish we had more time, guys, this is starting a whole new precedent. Well be exploring this as well. The latest on a new threat to the bahamas right after this. By the strolle s [ growl ] good boy. Hey. Hey. You must be stevens phone. Know whos on your network and control who shouldnt be with xfinity xfi. Simple. Easy. Awesome. All right. First dorian and now humberto, after being slammed by a hurricane, the bahamas are ready for another storm. Hard to say how bad it gets. Adam klotz is following it. The storm is it over the abacos, the area crushed by dorian. This is the center of circulation. Most of this shifted off to the east and the heavy rain and wind mostly on the east side of this storm, there are the islands, theyre missing the brunt, the absolute brunt of the system. That doesnt mean theyre completely out of the woods and these are the bahamas and those are Tropical Storm warnings, still some wind and rain maybe only one to three inches widespread. We did see some Tropical Storm warnings along the florida coast. Theyve gotten rid of those because they track further off to the east and thats good news for folks in the bahamas and folks here along the u. S. Coast. Theyll step out of the way here and see basically how we stay off the coast and a sharp turn away with the carolinas. As we go through the weekend, likely some rip Current Issues across portions of florida running into georgia and the carolinas. Outside of that though, just some rain bands, no real intense winds and here is the forecast for Tropical Storm humberto, actually likely to become a hurricane by the time you get into early next week. Even as it does that, it stays far off the coast and shoots out to sea and jumping eventually to a category 2 storm. Thats what they project. By the that time the middle of the week into early thursday, were starting to run up on bermuda. Thats going to be something to Pay Attention to as it gets closer. Its a wide angle and you could miss that island, but its one to Pay Attention to. I think the states are mostly in the clear with this one. A little bit of rain and you see some bands of showers. The coast is going to be choppy across florida, but, neil, this is not dorian and thats good news for all of these folks. Neil all right, adam, thank you very, very much. And well follow this closely at the weather center. Im getting a lot of email from a lot of folks on the vaping situation and vaping products, about a hundred and i cant respond to each and every one. And you find this controversial and some extreme, its not good to go after these products and others saying that individuals should decide. Monday well talk on the fox business network, from the vaping, and going after the pursue purveyor of the products. 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