Positive effect diminishing the time to recover. A bill more on that in a moment. Meanwhile more states are rolling out plans to reopen, from wisconsin some nonessential business or back up and running. From new jersey, the governor says he will allow golf courses and state parks reopen this weekend with some restrictions. More on that i had it as well. First i want to bring in dr. Thomas frain, welcome back to our program and thank you for being here, especially on a day like today. Have we made a breakthrough on this drug known as remdesivir . Its good news, not a game changer but its good. It reduces the amount of time that people are in the hospital in the intensive care unit and hopefully reduce the risk of death. But i think we have to come to terms with the fact that this virus is here until we have a vaccine. That doesnt mean we have to stay home but it means we have to stay, could be careful when it comes out and we have to do this in a way that it protects people most likely to be severely harmed by it. Older people over the age of 60 and people with underlying conditions. Bill we will come back to that comment and if the future. So a randomized study with hospital patients, what does that tell us or is it as obvious as it sounds . I havent seen the details of the study, so it needs to be published. But dr. Fauci is a superb researcher so i have confidence in what hes saying. What hes saying is they took two groups of people and randomly assigned them to two different groups and the group that was randomly assigned to get remdesivir got better four days faster. Thats good news for severely ill people. And we buy the same token today that didnt find that result. I think its encouraging and its a large study, i look forward to seeing the details of it. What that would mean would be people who are severely ill make it better a little faster. And thats good news. Bill pfizer is working on this, Johnson Johnson and oxford university. Complex question and maybe its easy to answer. Whats a challenge in the lab . Is it finding the right cocktail or finding the time to improve the efficacy of the treatment you are given . Is a big gap between finding chemicals that work in the prepetri dish and finding chemicals that are safe and effective in people. And viruses are harder to treat and in general than bacteria. Viruses you often have to get here early in the treatment may not be as effective. So its good news but still, its a very serious pandemic and if you just look at the death and devastation it has caused in new york city where i live and work and around the world, its very shocking. Its the worst health fiasco or worth Health Disaster we have had in a century. We are going to get to a lot of the score is as we get back to meeting here. What should state governors be considering . First off we all want to get back outside and we can restart the economy. Whats important is the economy for health. What we dont want to do is see our rekindling of the number of infections that would send us back home again. We dont want the ground that we gained to stay close this loan. Outdoor activities are much safer than indoor activities, and avoid crowding. We are home for longer because and they are getting seriously ill. The smart way is also going to be the gradual way. Do it carefully. I savvy with us. As these labs around the world, a young man in atlanta volunteering to be one of the first people tested in another trial. His name is shawn doyle and hes a medical student at emory university. You are 31 years old, and you had two doses already injected. What is the risk to you . A at this point, having had these two doses, the biggest i guess the and for me personally things will be looking good. For the most part my involvement, the hard part of the study is done and hopefully this is a really good sign for the longterm safety of the vaccine. You just heard my conversation with dr. Friedman. Does not give someone like you hope . It does. But it is fantastic to hear there is a treatment now that helps folks that have come down with covid19. Because until now there hasnt been any improvement. And i hope that remdesivir proves to be a really great treatment and continues to be a really great, great treatment once it more fully tested. Bill youre a guinea pig but you have done this before. Youve volunteered for ebola experiments two or three years ago. What is the difference now . Or is there much of one . On a experience for the covid19 file, and thats the risk and process of what the vaccine trial is like. And making sure that everyone stays safe and healthy. Bill some i understan underg as a watcher for the next year, no more injections but they watcher a blood work for 12 months . Thats correct. My health will continue to be assessed over the next 12 months. Bill hang in there and hang tough. I have one more question, you hesitated this time around, what were you thinking . For which question . I hesitated a little bit because this vaccine is being pushed through so quickly. Not the same as ebola. And if anything it was a split second hesitation a vaccine is needed. The hesitation comes from the fact that this is a slightly newer vaccine, and with that since its newer, thats exactly what the effect might be. So far like this, especially the effects effects of the vaccine. Thanks for coming on to me. A news alert now, that was near zero for the foreseeable future to help boost the u. S. Economy. We had the worst quarter since a financial crisis more than a decade ago, our gdp. Dropping 4. 8 in the three month period between january and march. Most of that was in march. Fox Business NetworkEdward Lawrence has more on that now. You said it, in january and february we were growing in this economy and then it hit an economic wall. Basically the last two weeks of march in which the economy basically stalled because it was a selfimposed shutdown due to the coronavirus. This is the first negative number weve seen in gdp growth and six years going forward. Economists say that we have not seen the scale of this drop since the Great Depression and we are concerned about what the Second Quarter is now going to look like. Even preparing us for worst numbers in the coming days and weeks. Just listen to larry kudlow he here. I think the economy is going to suffer through some very bad numbers. That will be worst in the Second Quarter, the Unemployment Rate is going to come up and its a very serious matter with a lot of hardship. Still white house Economic Advisor larry kudlow saying he will have a vshaped recovery because economic fundamentals are still there. The economy is still strong, going into the economic shutdown. That may be what the market is expecting now, and that change, and that positive news. Thats what they currently have for the future. We are talking a very good time until they confirm that the economy will recover and and thats a statement from the Federal Reserve released today saying there is a significant drop in unemployment because of the coronavirus and economic activity, and also inflation. Thats something they are worried about it, too, almost no inflation in this economy. I think the bottom line is the economy is weak and we are hoping for a quick recovery but we really do not know how that plays out today. Exactly. There was a vaccine until that vaccine comes older some sort of viable treatment, the economy will remain where it is. That no doubt i will start spending and some of that is in the Third Quarter going forward. But no doubt about that, you will have to wait until the end of the year. Breaking news in washington, thank you edward. President trump why did china allow planes to fly out but not into china but they allow planes to come out and planes are coming out of wuhan and coming out and going all over the world. They are going very bigtime to italy, going all over the world but not going into china. Bill he accused beijing of lying about the virus. Also the president says will come next after his order to keep Meat Processing plants open and new details on the nursing home of the deadly snow outbreak in the nation. Not only are they not with their families, now they are not with the caregivers who have become their family. So they are truly alone. And that is the most heartbreaking. Feel the clarity of new nondrowsy claritin cool mint chewables. 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[tina] youre an old lady. Bill its and gutwrenching news from up Veterans Home in massachusetts. Its a deadly is known outbreak in a longterm care facility and the entire country and federal and state officials are now investigating. Molly line has that story in boston now. Its a deadliest known outbreak at a longterm facility and those numbers are being checked by ac. This specific facility 68 residents who tested positive for the virus have died. Its usually home to more than 200 residents. Elderly residents who served our country but since the covid19 crisis hit, nearly 30 have died and more than 80 others have tested positive. Dozens were hospitalized and more than 80 staffers have tested positive for the virus has well. According to the nearest jonah miller, staffing problems and the shuffling of residents aided in the spread of the virus. It went very fast. And i do believe it is from the transferring of the bets from unit to unit as well as the floating of staff from unit to unit. And in the beginning we arent not giving the product proper ppes. They provide mobile testing at Nursing Centers across the state. But those who cared for these veterans, the losses have been hard. Heartbreaking. Heartbreaking. We, in my field of nursing we are used to death and used to helping people die with care, honor and dignity but not in this magnitude. For a broader perspective in massachusetts alone 1,800 covid19 deaths have been recorded at longterm care facilities and Nursing Homes nationwide have also been hit very hard by outbreaks with more than 13,000 deaths reported. Bill molly line, thank you. Unfortunately i think we are just at the beginning of the story. President trump meanwhile defending his executive order. He says the administration is planning to release the report today on protecting workers. 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For one thing its not true that he has vehemently denied this allegation as Kirsten Gillibrand points out there, thats not the case. His campaign has released statements about it saying that it didnt happen, but he has not he has not spoken out. Many in this campaign and around him are suggesting its time to nip this in the body. And its now going in to the area of damage control. As far as Kirsten Gillibrand has is concerned, he has been a staunch supporter of women throughout his career and there are certainly many examples of people can point to in that regard. People said the very same things about Brett Kavanaugh and he did forcefully deny the allegations against him in an interview with me and elsewhere. I think we appoint him as women and clerks, then i think anyone else in his position. And its just a big question about why and so many others are calling for due process, when they were willing to give that to Brett Kavanaugh at all. I think thats pretty rich. I think the distinction of cavanaughs you had no one who corroborated her story. In this case, her mother apparently was the voice on the larry king live show. And they are out there is a representations of her story. Stacy abram ran for state wide in georgia did not win our last election so this last night on cnn, just watch here. I believe that Women Deserve to be heard and i believe they need to be listened to but i also believe those allegations have to be investigated by a current credible sources. The New York Times did a deep investigation then they found their accusation was not credible. I believe joe biden. Bill so looking at the times website, the times came out and corrected that and so that was not part of our investigation. Slowly, not entirely but slowly the media is coming to the story and we can see some evidence on that today. Abc news, there was a piece in the washington post. So then, at what point and how does joe biden address this to either as one democratic strategist said nip it in the bud and it deny it entirely or give some credence to some level of relationship. That may have been there. No one at this point knows whether or not tara reid is telling the truth. I cant judge her credibility, and there are people who supported her story and of the people who say they dont think that this happened. So neither of us can judge the credibility of it. But what we all have to see, the idea of believing all women which so many said they are now telling a very different story, this just throws cold water on the notion that believing all women, or for that matter believing all men is just a notion that we need to start wrestling with. We need to recognize due process in these situations and i think there is just so much hypocrisy on the part of so many people were speaking out and giving him the benefit of the doubt when they were not willing to do that for other men who were also accused. Politically i do think hes going to have to address it, to answer your question, and he will. There is no doubt that they are wrestling with the best way to do that at this point and its going to have to be something that comes across as a very credible and also leaves room for tara reid to sort of you know, have told her story, as someone had said in the past, and her truth which i think is one of those phrases that also deserve some due process medicine as well. But hes got a delicate dance to do here and he also said hes going to ask a woman to be his Vice President a candidate. He went out on a limb and said that and now whoever that women woman is will have to speak to this as well. Bill and for the moment, that stands. 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Bill more estate starting to get back to business, slowly as she goes. The governor saying elective surgeries starting to open again and dentist offices can reopen on friday. In about an hour ron desantis will roll out his plan to reopen the state as officials announced guidelines to reopen walt disney world. That resort has been closed since midmarch. Phil keating is live. Baby steps. Thats how florida and its counties are slowly starting to reopen society and the economy. Lets start off in orlando, Orange County and disney world. We are planning on how we are going to reopen on how that day comes, the parts will be limited to 50 capacity, all cast members will have to wear face masks and get their temperature taken every day and those in their those infamously long lines will be have to fate spaced be spaced out. Palm beach county is opened up in a measured way, and it was certainly delightful news for all the people that missed the water and love to go boating, especially charter boat captains who saw all their revenue dry up for nearly two months. Boats are allowed back in the water but when they are on the water they must keep a distance of 50 feet from any other boat. No flotillas and no anchoring on the sandbar is where people would congregate. As the economy has shut down and floridas tours have disappeared people like charter boat captain jack coping or took an enormous financial hit so he more than welcomes getting customers aga again. It was looking really good and all of a sudden just dropped down to nothing, like a light switch, from on to off and basically thats what happened. Money lost. Stop right there. Done. Another aspect of life reopening today, golf courses. Theyve been empty for pretty much six weeks. New rules for golfers means that only one person can ride in a golf course and golfers are not supposed to touch the flag on the green. Public parks are also an option today, sunrise to sunset so people can get some recreation. But just like everything people are mandated to continuous social distancing which is being enforced by parks employees as well as security guards. We saw Governor Ron Desantis meeting at the white house yesterday was President Trump indicating there would be a threephase process for reopening the state of florida. Hes got a 5 00 News Conference today in tallahassee and they will be there to find out exactly what that will be but he has indicated that he wants it to be safe, measured and smart. Bill a thank you very much. More news from georgia and james oreilly, ceo of smoky bones restaurant chain thank you for your time. These are new rules of the restaurants with more spacing between tables, people wait outside in their cars and no condiments on the table. So then james, day one, hows it going . Happy to be with you. We expected a slow start because they are starting to come back. We had guests and for lunch, and we are looking forward to that. So its my sense that the customer will decide how and when things come back to normal. Have you thought about that . Yes we have. Eating out is one of those things that our guests miss the most during the pandemic but we also know that they are very concerned about when they go into a restaurant, making sure that that restaurant has taken all the steps that it needs to take keeping their health and safety in the forefront of their thinking. And we have done that. Weve made significant changes to our operation and reconfigured our restaurants and offering our guests single paper menus and plastic cutlery. And the National Restaurant association and the cdc and osha has been helping us get ready. Bill is that its a little slow on day one, where do you think it is in a week or so . It will continue to progress slowly. I think as guests start to spread the wordofmouth, people will start to come back. James oreilly from smoky bones restaurant change. The hair salon and barbershops opening their doors in georgia. Ken mcdonald, coowner. Okay, same question for you. Heres your new rules. Temperature checks inside of the salon, the staff wears the masks and the face shield. The customer asked about illnesses and limits on people allowed inside. Youve been open for a few days, how goes it . Its going well right now. We seem to have a waiting list on people waiting to get in we are just limited our staff and having only by a stylist working at a time. So right now its working. The one any reservations on the folks that want to step inside . We have had some that have called to ask, and we are glad to do that for you then. What happens if things go the wrong direction . Lets say the cases chewed up and hospitalization goes higher. What your plan and what are you prepared to do then . We are just following the guidelines put down for the Georgia State board of cosmetology. We are so fortunate that we are able to get the ppp loan and also the Disaster Relief and we are just fortunate. We want to make sure that we take care of our team, and i bill i would think thats a huge relief to you. Youre just trying to survive. We have several team members that are single moms and we are just so fortunate to be able to still give them a paycheck. Bill kim, good luck to yo you. Kim mcdonalds, thank you. In a moment the secrecy surrounding north korea but we know about covid19 outbreaks there. Plus a top chinese official challenging the white house, challenging the president s about to make china pay for the pandemic. We will talk about that when the state Department Spokesperson in a moment, live. The Chinese People were harmed by this, too. The Chinese Communist party, we know that there were journalists that were kicked out. Doctors i will tell the story and instead they were pushed aside and cover it up, taking out of the news. Those are the kind of things that the communist institutions do. Today, being on your side means staying home. Nationwide office of customer advocacy. But we can still support you and the heroes who are with you. Were giving refunds on Auto Insurance premiums, assisting customers with financial hardships, and our foundation is contributing millions of dollars to charities helping with covid19 relief. Keeping our promise to be on your side. Its velveeta shells cheese versus the other guys. Clearly, velveeta melts creamier. Bill at the active Navy Secretary is saying he is expanding an investigation into the covid19 outbreak on theodore roosevelt, which is a move that effectively delays the decision in order to reinstate the ships former captain brett crozier. He was fired after a letter he wrote to Top Navy Officials about the outbreak that ended up in the media. The navys top officer has recommended reinstating him. In a statement of the acting Navy Secretary wrote this. I have Unanswered Questions that the preliminary inquiry has identified and can only be answered by a deeper review. Those claims are preposterous. They present an out and out political farce. First of all asking china to make reparations for these kind of claims, they have no legal basis. Bill this was a very significant interview from nbc, critics were criticizing President Trump. Secretary of state mike pompeo has also said beijing will pay the price. I want to bring in from the state departments book spokespn ortega. He said in the interval of 50 days, what was the u. S. Government doing . He was talking about the date they shut down wuhan to the date the United States had a number of cases, aware of those 50 days gone . Your reaction to the comment from beijing first. One of the things that we were doing recently, was evacuating american citizens. So, while americans were enjoying the super bowl and watching that game, our Foreign Service officers and wuhan were working on getting the planes of americans out of china and off of cruise ships. We continued that effort and we now have 70,000 americans that we have repatriated. Secretary pompeo said something this morning that i think is really key, that communist Party Officials are saying. Disinformation creates a risk. So while there is noise in the space, but we still dont have credible scientists, credible investigators and credible scientists that can go into these labs so china wants to be the partner, if they want to be transparent. And by opening up the country not just to the United States but to the world, credible doctors from around the world. Bill have you made that request to beijing . We say it almost every day pretty loudly and thats one of the reasons that President Trump has reviewed the 6090 day review on the w. H. O. We are in the middle of that review process right now and the most fundamental important thing, bill, that we have to solve, that the world has to solve, is how do we stop the pandemic of the scale from ever happening again. The world cannot answer the question, that becomes transparent and gives data that scientists and doctors can verify. We are still waiting on that. Bill used to say that every day, is the answer no or is it a muted response . Did you get an answer . No. We get a lot of disinformation that you see from communist Party Officials and to the best of our knowledge we still dont have the world does not have those live virus samples. Bill in the meantime you have the Foreign Ministry saying pompeo is accusing china of a coverup. I stopped playing the political game, better save energy on saving lives. What is the nature of the relationship. What is the strain on the relationship between beijing and washington today. And sometimes thats on uncomfortable to hear. We are willing to work in the Chinese Government on the spirit of transparency. And thats why we keep publicly pressuring and calling for openness and transparency for this data. Lesson, and diplomacy there are areas of the world in which the United States and china, and our interests converge and there are areas that they dont. What President Trump is called for since the beginning of his presidency is reciprocity in his relationship. He has called for a fair and free trade and hes not asking for anything of china that hes not asking for the rest of the world and that is an equal relationship, whether its trader, ip theft or the beginning of bill i got to get to another topic here. Greasing the Chinese Government has not yet sure a sample of the library rest, is that correct . To the best of our knowledge. Bill because the dna was shared with doctors in england back in january, is that true . I did not major in biology so i will let the scientists speak to that but to the best of our knowledge of the state department, those early live virus samples have not been shared. Bill okay, the World Health Organization, the leader said earlier today that from the beginning the World Health Organization acted quickly and decisively to warn the world. We sounded the alarm early and sounded it often. Is that true or not today . If this was true we would not be going through the review process that President Trump hasnt plummeted. Is a World Health Organization lying . I think thats a little strong. We are conducting this review process because we want to be good stewards of the american taxpayer money. We know there has been to a number of missteps at the beginning of this process and so we are on a review. To see w. H. O. Reform, can they become more transparent in a way that will help solve the pandemic. We have given them 140 billion in just the past two decades, the Global PublicHealth Infrastructure that exists now is thanks to the american peop people. You just want to make sure we have real results in taxpayer money. Bill a few seconds left. It is a leader of north korea alive or dead . President trump i think spoke to that on monday so i will let his words stand. Secretary pompeo has said that our mission no matter who is in charge remains the same north korea. President trump has charged us with making sure that we have a denuclearize holy and fairly method in north korea and that remains going forward. Thank you for being here today. On a much lighter topic, baseball normally would be a month into the season. So what if you already have tickets . How the league is working to help its fans, in a moment. By using your va streamline refi benefit, one call to newday usa can save you 2,000 a year. 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Most visionworks locations are open and were here to help. If you have an essential eyecare need, visit our website to get connected to one of our doctors. Visionworks. See the difference. Boris johnson has had a big 30 days and today he is a new dad again. He and his fiancee welcomed her son. He is taken or they are fabricating to her, the attribute in the coronavirus. He spent three nights in the icu. Congrats to both. Major League Baseball will now allow teams to revise ticket policies meaning some vans might get a refund. The league has faced criticism for giving millions of dollars in ticket sales. Fox business has more on that story. What did you find out . I think they keyword that you mention is allowed. It doesnt mean that the fans will get a refund. Its going to be up to the individual team to send out their policies today to let fans know if they are going to get a refund. We know of the season was postponed on march 12. That means thousands and thousands of dollars people have not been refunded. Fans are clearly very upset. In new york, twothirds to the mlb. I was checking the yankee stadium, the cheapest seasonticket goals for 1400. No wonder a lot of these fans want to get their money. They should be notified within the next few hours. Its gonna happen today, but he wouldnt tell me which specific teams were going to be issuing the statements. Its not just the mlb, a lot of Online Platforms are issuing refunds for sporting events. They could take some time like ticketmaster, stubhub, live nation announced they are going to be issuing refunds. I would like to talk to all the sports fans about the 2020 season. The mlb didnt officially say that they are canceling all 162 games. Theres been talk about how they can have a contingency plan. I spoke to an mlb contacted told me right now theres a lot of factors out of control given that the cities and states need to decide about large gatherin gatherings. However, last week the commissioner of the mlb did say he expects the 2020 season to be a goahead. And i was told that those comments are fair game. You can read into it how you want. Last but not least, you need that baseball fix, korean baseball goes live on may 5th. No fans taken at temperatures. Not allowed to spit on the field. Officials need to wear masks. That could be setting a precedent for what we should expect here in United States planner after 2020 season comes to play. They should be coming in the next two hours. Bill you are full of good news today. Nice to see you. I agreed, thank you, christina. We will see you soon. Weve got to run everybody. Pretty good day in the markets. The data shows that it has a clearcut significant positive effect in diminishing the time to recover. This is really quite important. What it has proven is that a drug can block this virus. Neil if dr. Fauci is impressed, apparently all of wall street got impressed. The latest news is the president powwow with key ceos. Enormous from another corner of wall and brought where this drug that just might offer some positive developments for those conflicted right now whe