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0 old they are, how long we have them and stuff like that. so these two rogue agents running a muck for three years or even three months, it would never happen. fofacre said her boss in washington, irs lawyer, carter hall, asked for extra paperwork on the conservative groups. there are reports now that hall may be retiring. and you may remember that former acting irs director steven miller also was allowed to retire early after the scandal started breaking. legal experts say it is tough to get fired in the government job for a reason. >> that would be a disincentive for people to want to devote their careers to government. it would make things unstable and unpredictable. there is some value to having protections in place so that you can't have wholesale mass firing of hundreds of thousands of government employees all at once. but there is clearly a balance you have to strike here. >> dupreist says the goal is to make sure hundreds of thousands of those employees perhaps and some of the locations like cinncinati. this was just out right bad management. >> i live in a block where most people don't even make $50,000 a year. but yet still we can produce a video that has no redeeming value, none, and spend taxpayers' hard-earned dollars for that. and then there was that line dance. couldn't see any there either. >> you know, there are lawmakers that are characterizing what happened as, quote, maliciously self-indulgent particularly at a time when the country was in the midst of major economic challenges. the fact that $50 million of our tax taxpayer money was being spent on upgraded presidential suites and these crazy videos and, you know, all kinds of unnecessary expenses as for party favors, et-cetera. how could this happen? >> what is really sad it is not just the country, you say, but the service is chronicley short of money. always needing more money hire people. the fact they diverted money from hiring to do this lavish conference makes no sense. it is disgraceful. >> it speaks to a level of intense arrogance, doesn't it? >> it is interesting. i was in pennsylvania and speaking with a group of people in the middle of the state in lancaster. this is exactly one of the questions i got from the audience was, jeez the arrogance of the people, the testimony of commissioner shulman when he said, oh well, i was at the white house for the a easter egg roll. this is a disturbing series of events that has taken place. >> i know you have talked about the fact that contrasting your time at irs against that of mr. shulman, he has apparently been to the white house as has been reported 157 times and you were only up there once. have you been able to figure out what possible reason he might have had for that many trips to the white house? >> i was there more than once. i used to go beg for money. what i said was i was only there one time for a policy meeting, and that was actually on immigrationish you as. look, there are legitimate reasons for him to be at the white house. >> apparently he was there more than any other cabinet official in the white house. it does raise major questions. now we have the news that the folks in ohio are saying that it was washington that directed the targeting of these conservative groups. what's your reaction to this? >> it is a little complicated. initial revelations talked about the screening criteria in the c4 applications process. and that is to say they flagged certain applications for additional work using really what were outrageous selection criteria, tea party and words like that and nothing from more liberal leaning groups. >> it does appear they didn't want to be thrown under the bus. they felt they were being used as a scapegoat as so-called rogue agents were doing their own thing and targeting these different groups, and now they are coming out saying, no, wait a minute. it wasn't just about us. we were getting our marching orders from washington. >> look, i think there were failures at three levels. one in that cinncinati office they can't shirk responsibility for what they did. then the exempt organization's leadership, lois lerner, and then in the front office, the commissioner should have done more to learn about these problems, if you will and when he testified in march of 2012, his testimony should have been different. and then finally when he learned what he said was incorrect he should have gone back and corrected the record. he didn't. that's three levels of failure, if you will. >> stepping back and wrapping up for a moment, you as an american citizen and you as someone who once ran this agency, doesn't it make you angry over the revelations that have come forward so far about the excesses and the fact that groups have been targeted? and this is something that just goes against the principals and the values that we stand for as americans? >> i know the service can do better, and it does anger me that it has been undermined. many americans are further in road space. that's horrible. >> and with recent are revelations stemming from a host of political scandals in washington and now the news that our government is mining data of millions of americans we want to know, are we headed down a dangerous path? and can you now trust the government? treat your answers to us at anhdc and we will read your responses later in this our. and this news breaking today new york mayor cory booker just officially announced he will run for a u.s. senate seat. booker is hoping to fill the seat vacated by the recent death of new jersey's frank lautenberg. booker started raising money for a possible run last september. palone has thrown his hat in the race and governor chris christie announcing there will be party primaries in august followed by general elections in october. the defense department confirming to fox news that two u.s. soldiers and a u.s. civilian were killed in eastern afghanistan overnight. someone wearing an afghan national army uniform reportedly turned his weapon against service members stationed in that area. if the shooter was in fact a member of the afghan national army, this would be the seventh green on blue attack this year. those incidents threaten to shake the confidence and trust of the two sides as the 2014 withdrawal of international troops approaches. and there are new developments in the u.s. military sexual scandals -- sexual assault scandal. the commander of the u.s. army forces in japan has been suspended after allegedly failing to report or properly investigate an allegation of sexual assault. major general michael t harrison, a 33-year army veteran, was set to become deputy commander of the army come pone inept. component. those plans are on hold as the army conducts an investigation. this comes amid increased political pressure to crackdown on sexual abuse in the military. the pentagon estimates 26,000 members of the military may have been sexually assaulted just last year. tragedy in california. with at least five people dead including the killer, after a shooting rampage on the santa monica college campus. the gunman carrying a semiautomatic rifle shot dead on the scene by police. let's go live to santa monica where dominic is standing by live with more on the story. dominic? >> morning. just before 12:00 yesterday, lunchtime, there was reports of a house fire in the neighborhood surrounding santa monica community college. very shortly by phone calls to police of a carjacking by an armed gunman. and then further reports there were multiple shootings throughout the neighborhood as the gunman made his way to santa monica community college. he was shot by police on campus. he was entering the library there. police saying this happened extremely fast. take a listen. >> this subject happened within a matter of minutes there was an on going gunbattle with law enforcement officers officers from santa monica police department and santa monica college police department with this subject. the whole event was probably over in 10 minutes or less, but i can't confirm that until i go back and look at time line. >> at the time president obama was holding a fundraiser just three miles away, a 10-minute drive from where the gun plan -- the gunman was on his shooting spree. witnesses on the site say it was absolutely terrifying. we spoke to actually one witness who came face-to-face and was confronted by the gunman. >> saw him about 30 feet away. we spotted each other at the same time and he turned his gun on me and shot at me, but i just jumped out of the way as quick as possible. >> the gunman hasn't been identified at this time. we are expecting details about him to come out in a press conference that is due to take place at 12 noon local time, 3:00 p.m. eastern. reports say he was a troubled man and may have been related -- this is not confirmed, but may have been related to two males killed in the house fire. back to you. >> thank you very much. there has been a bizarre twist in the ricin incident when ricin-laced letters were sent to president obama and michael bloomburg. authorities have arrested shannon richardson who was allegedly trying to frame her estranged husband. the fbi said she sent the letters because she said that her husband made her do it. her confession comes after she failed a polygraph test. richardson is pregnant and could face up to 10 years behind bars. just ahead, attorney general eric holder's uncertain future. more and more people, liberals and conservatives, are suggesting holder is not up to the task. at 12:45, we will hear from former bush attorney general alberto gonzalez who will join us live with his take. but first, a lecture on liberty from one wife and mother to capitol hill. >> i am a born free american woman. i am a wife, mother and citizen and i am telling my government that you have forgotten your place h. >> becky garrison is joining us with what she says is the obama administration's persecution of her tea party group and many others. stay with us.

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