criminalality. >> neil: both have minimized this problem saying it's a fixation of fox or whatever. leaving that aside, one thing that interests me and help me out this with this, this idea that maybe some of these smash and grab events are coordinated on the internet. a lot of this finger snap chat-with a lot of these groups plan these attacks. snap chat says it's not happening. they're finding it insulting. i'm paraphrasing. you think there's coordination here, that they are not just random events? >> i believe there is definitely an organized group that are committing these acts. i don't -- i have to tell you, i don't like the media referring to these events as shopliftings or retail thefts. they are mass criminality events, okay? that's what they true will are. they are -- shoplifting you go in, you take fingernail polish and stick it in your coat.