>> neil: that's good they read on obviously those who are doing the questioning of ambassador sondland today, what they got out of that. we talked to republicans and democrats on all this. good to have you. thanks for coming. >> thanks for having me back on. >> neil: is at your sense to tiling it back by days end that sondland has it that the president himself said that there was no quid pro quo that there was quid pro quo? >> i think what is so telling is that sondland said he calls the president on september 9th and says openly, what do you want with ukraine? the president does not say i want to give them javelin missiles, i want to root out corruption, he says there's no quid pro quo. i want nothing. who brought up quid pro quo? why are you even talking about quid pro quo? when you put that in context with what the president nukem at the president knew that there was a whistleblower complaint out there that would soon become