offensive about what the congressman said. you not entitled to representation. they are entitled to that in the trial, and a son, but not in the house for the house rules are actually clear on this matter by the rules may be unfortunate and inconvenient for republicans but they are the rules. >> they are more than just inconvenient. it these are people. as an aside, i think that's the important factor here is again, this is a traumatic thing for a country. this is the third time we've gone through this in history and forth, if you count nixon who was going to be impeachment then resigned. it's a traumatic thing for the country and i think it's really important just like with the mueller process that the public has access to the information and all they can decide for themselves because as we see, the public doesn't trust the process on the, they don't trust congress, they don't even trust the president. they don't trust any of the institutions that are at the center of this and it's all underwater and public approval so i think they make and people have the right to look at that evidence directly and whatever else, decide for themselves.