years. she has a heart for that and she is sensitive to that. we are not getting much from the other side by way of health care plans. i'm still confident about the discussion taking place at these debates and i think the democratic party's positioned itself as the party of health care. >> neil: that might be so. the one thing that worries me is no one has thought long enough, does everyone really sign up for this medicare for everybody at the expense and junking private health care plans? she has had to adjust. bernie sanders said no, will be very careful about this. the fact of the matter is, say what you will a 150 million americans on private health insurance, griping about exorbitant costs. but they like the security. telling them to abandon that in favor of something government run gets them antsy and i wonder if they thought that through. >> that's the conversation that we are seeing the democratic party. what you said, the conversation coming from joe biden and