not going to get to the conjecture game. pat rosman joins us on the phone. very little to put together what do you think of what you heard? >> well, good afternoon, neil. a couple things. there's really three defining elements that we can piece together based on known facts. aimlessly as you pointed out, first of all, a s.u.v. driving through the mall. secondly apparently several ear witness accounts of gun shots or what the ear witnesses believe to be gun shots. and third, you have police with their weapons drawn fanning out throughout the area. so if you align those apparent facts together, seems like a very serious situation. >> when you look at this and people see something unusual with this, showing you a bit ago, someone had a smart phone or recording all of this, that's not something that is done by accident i suspect. so what is the first thing in