will be any friendlier to u.s. interests but some of the same protests railed against oil. so why the knee-jerk rush to throw cash at them? my guest says the u.s. should butt out, director of foreign policy at cato institution. >>guest: first we recognize that the protests have nothing to do with the united states at the outset as in tunisia and egypt. this is not what the protesters are protesting about in the crying for u.s. support. they are in charge, and they are doing a fair job of fighting for their freedom and the less we give qaddafi an excuse to treat this as foreign interference the more likely he will meet his untimely end. >>neil: what do you make of others like senator john kerry saying, look, we have to finance the democratic type efforts, not necessarily talking about the protesters in libya, but he was sim pathetic and a new movement should be started and paid for by us. >>guest: well i find this curious. the last 10 years it is as if it did not happen and we did not learn from support, supposedly, democratic reformers in iraq that we would not then be on the hook for carrying the burden and putting the american taxpayers on the hook for the future. how do we know the people would claim to be our friends, are what they say they are? at the end of the day, i expect the rebels to make, continue to make advances, muammar qaddafi's days are numbered but we should deal with that government when it takes power and not take responsibility for overthrowing or giving them additional support. >>neil: i wonder if we become the world's sugar daddy and everyone sucks up to us because we have money and they have to say the right thing to get the money but they are just interested in the money. >>guest: that is the case. we saw that in the case of the cold war where a number stepped forward saying they were our good friends but they were thugs and criminals. a similar situation today. we do no have the excuse of the soviet union to justify our support for the undemocratic or so-called reform movements. at the end of the day, it was different with libya than egypt where we did not have a long-standing relationship with muammar qaddafi but hostile relations toward his government. so we cannot be held responsible for him holding on to power the we should are confident when the events in libya shake out it will be better for the libyan people and the united states. but we should not play an active role to make that happen. >>neil: if you have to buy your friends maybe you don't have friends. with oil soaring, calls for tapping our oil reserves are growing, and the white house is considering it. and my next guest says just cut the gas tax, a utah congressman. it is funny, congressman, i looked how were people pay with taxes and fees including the federal tax, it is a big chunk of that per gallon price. we will go through the prominent ones and you say take a permanent or temporary tax holiday. >>guest: we should leave it to the states. we don't need to have a big need for new highway system that is going to come about. cut out the middle man and let the states deal with it. >>neil: in california and new york they take a big chunk and their roads ... they need a lot of repairs. would the states pick up the ack and hike taxes more? >>guest: you would cut out the middle men. we do not need tens of thousands of people at the department of transportation. you can fill the rose bowl full of department of trap employees- transportation employees. >>neil: where does the money go, congressman, that we fork over the 18.5 percent federal gas tax. >>guest: it goes do trail and other things nothing to do with the gas tax. and we have a bureaucracy that is iting standards and doing other types of compliance issues, cut out the middle man. let the states do it. >>neil: but they have a lot of high taxes: california, new york, hawaii, connecticut. as congress men you would have no discretion over what the states do but if you get the feds out of the picture and remove the 18.4 cents that is a third of how much the prices have soared since the first unrest going back to tunisia. then what? >>guest: we have a problem. when we depend on libya and venezuela and they affect the quality of life in the united states, we have a problem. in 1977 we created the department of energy that was supposed to help ween us away from foreign oil. it has doubled, doubled, doubled. >>neil: but the same proponents say that is maybe a reason to tap the reserve because it is our oil and here now and in our border. >>guest: the problem is we have less than two months' supply. think of it as a rainy day fund. we tap into that with a national message or catastrophic event. we have to solve long term problem like drilling in anwr. i am "all of the above" kind of guy to sustain ourselves indepedently. that should be the goal. >>neil: president bush looked at not tapping the reserve as much as not adding more oil to the reserve and it had a psychological effect that there would be more oil out there in the open without having to tap the reserve. in other words, don't add to the reserve. what do you make of that? >>guest: we probably should add to the reserve because our population is growing and our demands are growing but the obama administration is doing everything it can to cut off our supply. not only in the gulf but in utah tapping into our resources for natural gas and oil and shale that has been cut off by this administration. it is infuriating. now we have something happen in the middle east and we see the rises in gas prices. we could something. we have the energy in our backyard. we need to be able to tap into it. >>neil: thank you, congressman. and what did the republican senator say that has donald trump firing off today? so fired up that he is her so fired up that he is her stay tuned. everyone has someone to go heart healthy for. who's your someone? campbell's healthy request can help. low cholesterol, zero grams trans fat, and a healthy level of sodium. it's amazing what soup can do. but you can still refinance to a fixed rate as low as 4.75% at lendingtree.com. plus, get the best deal or we'll pay you $1,000. call lending tree at... today. with the velocity of a 1-ghz dual core processor, 3-d graphics engine, gyroscope, and a widescreen hd display. grab it and it grabs you. only at verizon. curtis: welcome back to geico gecko: kate from mill valley, it's all yours. kate: well, i'm shopping for my first car. gecko: nice! i do hope you'll choose geico and save a good bit of cash... curtis: what color is the car? 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>>guest: an independent group set up www.shouldtrumprun.com but i don't think it is necessarily me but the prejudice. what is going on now is what i told you would happen a year ago, and we don't have the people that have whatever that quality is, that tell opec, you are not going to do this. this country cannot sustain itself on $110 oil and it will go higher than that. it will go higher. you look what opec is doing, what china is doing to our job picture, it is disgrateful. they are getting away with murder. >>neil: but you are also a savvy businessman and i am wondering you are aware in the markets they sometimes bid up prices and ask later in the middle east. maybe not just opec trying to screw us but fears this would get out-of-control and prices are going up, up, up, up, and it might be out of opec's control. >>guest: i don't buy that. i used to hear where it was speculators and the oil speculators and --. >>neil: what is doing it? >>guest: opec is setting the price of oil. opec is cutting it short and doing whatever they want. they can do, it is 12 machine -- men sitting around a table and they can do what they want with oil because we have no one to talk to them and no one to say, you better not do it and they would not be there without us. >>neil: but if that were true, and saudi arabia sees libya disintegrate and it offers to make up the gap from libya but egypt, although egypt is small are player and not opec member, why would saudi arabia why do that? >>guest: because they are trying to at least to a small extent, remain friendly with the united states. we protect them. we have troops over there. how about this: we have thousands of troops in saudi arabia. they have unlimited amounts of money. and they don't pay us for having troops over there. in fact, they despise us. you look at the world trade center when it came down, in all fairness, of all of the people responsible for taking down the world trade center, only one did not send his family back to saudi arabia. so, you tell me what's going on with saudi arabia. >> but would you stop all aid to the region, we have given hundreds of billions over the decades. would you stop that as president? >>guest: i would stop a lot of it and i would stop it if they are not our friends. look at pakistan. we give them $150 billion, we give them so much money nobody has any idea what is happening to it and they don't give us osama bin laden? and he is according to all sources, if -- in pakistan and you don't think the leaders know where he is? of course they do. >>neil: i looked at the prospect of you running and well county the nuisance factor, a business guy like you would have to, you know. tax returns, none science and everyone goes over every deal. >>guest: i like that. that is great. they will see i make good deals. what the country needs, someone that can make good deals. >>neil: but you put all your business interests and the people you negotiate would be out there for the world to see, right? >>guest: i have always said and heard if you are really, really, successful, you can never run for political office. unfortunately, that's the kind of person that this country needs right now because we are a whipping post. we are just getting whipped by everybody. and sadly, that's what this country needs. would i rather not do it? i would rather not. i dove what i am doing. my business is doing great, i have made so many good moves but i love this country, i see what is happening to this country and i will decide before june. >>neil: but you have to stop the new show. >>guest: it did great last night. >>neil: without have to stop that? >>guest: i would have to stop. i love this country. i want to do what is best for country. >>neil: about this site over which you have no control, i notice a couple of interviews featured are from greta's show and i love greta. >>guest: she is great. >>neil: but they are not interviews you have done with me. >>guest: we will have to change that immediately or i am in big double with you and if i am in trouble with you i'm if trouble. >>neil: very good having you, something going on here. >>guest: thank you. >>neil: the government shut down is looping -- looping as the debt is growing. the debt is growing. now, alan and bowles here.the me has two walk-in closets and a completely updated master bath. there's a totally renovated chef's kitchen, with updated stainless steel appliances, granite countertops and a butler's pantry. it's got a screened-in back porch, plenty of storage and a large backyard. it's the perfect home. in excellent condition, and ready to move in. anytime, anywhere. our agents help guide you to the smartest decisions. coldwell banker, we never stop moving. come on, guys. your dad's at the airport. see you. good game. see you guys tomorrow. dylan, you need a ride? no, my dad should be here. liberty mutual insurance. >>neil: $50 billion apart with no time to lose. and the guy who is supposed to broker the deal nowhere, joe biden on the way to russia. and now the government shut down has debt commission co-chairs alan simpson and erskine bowles feeling cut out. how will they ever handle the big cuts? i am worried. the democrats are talking about a $10.5 billion cut out of the domestic discretionary. republicans are talking about $61 billion. that is $61 billion out of $3.7 trillion budget. that is just 1.6 percent and no c.e.o. if america who could not make that cut today. we have to get serious. and we have to look at the whole budget and look at medicare, medicaid, social security, the tax expenditures, defense budget, and the domestic defense budget. >>neil: don't look like they are. are you worried? >>guest: they use the word "cut," but the sinful nature is cutting social security, we are not cutting social security we are trying to make the stuff solvents for 75 years and young people say i know there won't be anything for me but when you get to the window at 65 and you put 6.2 percent of all your jack in there you will want something back. it is really, really --. >>neil: older people do not like you with the analogies you use. >>guest: i used the one about the bovine members of the ... >>neil: they say you are trying to break their backs to break the numbers. >>guest: that is a fakery. if they care at all about their children or grandchild, and sometime i doubt that, i think grandchild now don't write a thank you for the christmas presents and they are wall on their pants with cap on backward and listening to snoopy poop dog. and this is near ranting, and it is my wife who is bothered. but what we --. >>neil: you are using that as an excuse. >>guest: and they talk about privatization, i heard it on the channels they will privatize. we never suggested that at all. >> the do nothing plan, the do nothing plan is the social security trust fund runs out of pun in 2037 and by law, the benefits have to be cut by 22 percent. so what we are doing is --. >>neil: some say you are overcreating this crisis, and the notes and bonds and the iou's will be made good. >>guest: after 2037 it is dicey. we are cash negative today by $45 billion. >>neil: a lot of this comes when we are redebating the same old arguments. right now on earmarks there are small numbers in the scheme of things $16 billion. there are reports this morning, guys, that senator inhofe has john mccain on board language that endorses a proposal to let home state projects if they are authorized by senate committees, a way around earmarks without calling them earmarks. >>guest: they can do a ballet dance if they want but they won't get nip. it is $16 billion. if they got around all of them it is $16 billion. >>neil: but i look at that $16 billion is like the gateway drug to get the votes for bigger pieces of legislation. >>guest: that is always the case since first i started to do the budgets in 1983. we have to get rid of earmarks but that is $16 billion and there are $1.1 trillion worth of earmarks in the tax code each year. those are what we need --. >>neil: will the taxes have to go up? >>guest: actually, tax rates will go down. if we are smart we will broaden the base, simplify the code get rid of the tax expenditures and we will use the money to bring down rates. we did, we were able by getting rid of tax expenditures to take rates to 8 percent and 14 percent and 24 percent. >>neil: but the rip -- rich get a 23 percent maximum rate. we take the corporate rate to 6 percent and go to territorial system so it gets the money trapped overseas back in this country. >>neil: i have said a lot of great ideas but do you feel let down by the president? he announced it, and it's collecting dust. >>guest: well, he knows if he said anything he would be savaged by the republicans and so the republican side came up with their budget and it was another ... and they knew they would be savageed. >>neil: do you feel like you wasted your time? >>guest: no, we irritated everyone in the united states. if we miss you, we will get to you. >>neil: both of you committed an enormous amount of time into this and lost some buddies along the way. or not. to say nothing of your association with this guy. >>guest: 14 reasons and he has eight grandchild and i have six branch. and when joe biden called me in january a year ago and said, will you do this and i said, no, you told me erskine bowles would be the co-chair and i heard about this remarkable gentleman and i have a bit of disappointment because this is a stink bomb in the garden party and it airport going -- it ain't going away. >>neil: flower in -- now we are in the debate of keeping the government going two weeks at a time. >>guest: that is crazy. >>guest: both sides are crazy. >>neil: what happens if we shut down. >>guest: i chaired the veterans affairs committee and was on the aging committee and i will tell you what will happen, they will tear the congress to shreds when they do not get the check from the social security. if you shut down the government you shut down the government that is where the republicans had egg all over their face. >>neil: it would be damaging if your party did that? >>guest: disaster. >>guest: it should be damaging to both parties. >>neil: but constantly raising the debt limit was supposed to address some of the problems we keep going through there and now our debt is on the brink of being downgraded. >>guest: we have to have long-term fiscal reform. >>neil: would you attach anything to it? >>guest: absolutely. i would attach long term fiscal reform. that is what we have to do. >>neil: time, time, time is awasting. >>guest: it is. >>neil: republicans say if we do not attach these, it will never happen. >>guest: the republicans have to talk with the democrats the long term problems. we tock -- took $4 trillion out of a deficit. >>neil: but you guys look around at ohio, wisconsin, and the big debate with the public workers saying, cool it, going after my pensions and i thought you were trying to do this nationally with medicare and social security and you were in the going after the programs as were as trying to save them. >>guest: we reformed the federal government pension plan. >>neil: what do you think of those efforts in wisconsin? >>guest: my old man was a member of the united mine workers and it's unfortunate when the unions, the public unions have to be brought in. i agree with that. and they have agreed to drop 5.2 and change the retirement but when you go for the chunk to take away completely collective bargaining, people died for that. the copper barons in montana, the great union song "i dreamed i saw joe hill last night," i can sing that song, it's ... >>neil: that is too far? >>guest: no need to have them hung up on that when they are ready to give up things. >>guest: i agree i come from a right-to-work state but that is too far. people have earned collective bargaining rights should be able to keep them but we need to bring down the pay because we cannot afford it. we made promises we cannot keep. >>neil: that is just for starters. much more with erskine bowles and alan simpson. >> if you don't want to take flak, don't be a leader, be a pansy. >>neil: who was alan simpson calling a pansy? you can find out at 6:00. ask and you will receive, more than 1,000 groups exempt from the health care law as the white house gives in to waivers. yellowbook has always been crucial to your business, but now, to get it really cooking, you need a little website development. some transparent reporting, so you know it's working. online ads and 1-on-1 marketing consultation. yellowbook's got all that. yellowbook360 has a whole spectrum of tools. the perfect recipe for success. visit yellowbook360.com and go beyond yellow. ... ?ó@] [ male announcer ] is your current denture cleanser missing something? 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what would that be? the theft of time being taken away from the wisconsin taxpayers who are paying the people to do a job and the biggest part of that job is to vote on legislation, correct? and they are not. that is deprivation of property, which is the time they are supposed to serve. >>neil: so they could be violating the law? >>guest: both the committee in offering and the legislatures viating in accepting. >>neil: thank you very much. if the white house wants to protect their health care law why are they exempting more unions from the health care law? , we can bring the whole gang. 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>> absolutely. absolutely. >>neil: in the end it will be up to the nine supreme court justices, right? >>guest: well, the fact that you have so much talk about big business pulling out in unions, pulling out and seeking the waivers is going to help the cases in the states in which the states are suing to try and repeal the reform. it's going to buttress the cases and they can use some of the examples and the republicans should be sitting back and they are getting a look at the playbook, if you will, we can see what works and what doesn't for business and make reform changes and suggestions. now, instead, the administration is putting their heels in. >>neil: there are two arguments but it is being pushed to the big courthouse in washington, but we will see how it goes. thank you. as lawmakers battle offer how to cut spending one group wants congress to spend more, another $400 billion more saying they will cut the unemployment rate in happen. and now, go to have you. your group, with the amount of money you want, is $1 trillion we spent in the stimulus has not helped marries any, if anything, the unemployment rate is higher than it was, and it might be coming down. hopefully. how is spending more going to help? >>gues we have 14 million who through no fault of their own lost their jobs and they would like the opportunity to work for a paycheck instead of drawing unemployment. our plan directs public jobs so we can -- direct government problems and puts people back do work, which, by the way, is the key to reducing the deficit. so we believe spend money now and that will lead to deficit reduction in the future. >>neil: what about creating an environment that encourages those folks to be picked up by private companies. >>guest: they have rebounded and corporate profits are surging and record-breaking heights and we have not seen hiring pick up. >>neil: a little bit. i am not saying with the results of the stimulus prior to, but, maybe, before we have more spending with money we don't have, maybe we should see the benefits of a cycle that we probably do. >>guest: how much longer are we going to wait? we are already more than a year and a half beyond the official end. >>neil: i am open to that if we thought more spending was the answer. it is interesting the pick up in jobs seems to be dovetailing with the promise of tax cuts or keeping rates where they were, that could work into the equation, as well? >>guest: if we keep it the way it is we are look at 2019 to get back to the rate where we were before the great recession and i don't think families can wait that long. >>neil: do you think the answer is more government jobs? >>guest: this gives them a job immediately, whether rebuilding bridges. >>neil: but the earmarks ... a lot of pensions go back including stimulus checks that go to ex-cons or dead people, so there are a lot of cracks. >>guest: we have a can-do spirit in this country. we can put people back to work. people want to go to work. poll after poll shows that job creation is the number one thing. >>neil: people want the government off their back or taxes or regular -- regulations and maybe that is the answer. >>guest: but it hasn't happened and if we wait for this level of growth we will wait until 20 unanimous -- 2019 to get back do where we were. this is a job economic recovery plan. there is a real social cost to the debt and legal of unemployment. the families are suffering and it is hurting the neighborhoods and hurting children. we need to get people back to work and we need to do it quickly. we can spend to keep people unemployed or spend to employ them. >>neil: but when you are deep in debt and the kids and grand kids will inherit this. >>guest: we have a short-term deficit caused by the deficit and two wars and the bush tax cuts. >>neil: and 9/11 and other things along the way. >>guest: the long-term deficit and debt is structural issue, we need to get to that and i watched the interview with alan simpson and erskine bowles and they say short term we need to get the who going and put people back to work. >>neil: but there is one more job at wanter brothers, charlie sheen. stay tuned. ... 3q double shift... i need a break. he needs some gellin'. yeahhhhhhh. gellin' is like having a teeny tiny foot masseuse in your shoe. you like ? 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>>guest: it belongs to the taxpayers, and it was never their money to give away. >>neil: so they gave it away what do you want to see now? >>guest: i want to see more of what happened in the last election happening in this election. this should be the motivation for conservatives right now to throw their remote control down and get back out on the streets and run for office or working for an ethical candidate. >>neil: we do not want people to threaten with the remote control but i get your point. >>guest: this is something that should spur americans back into action. we troyed to make the changes we could make in the last election and this is clear evidence that they still don't get it. this wasn't their money to give away no matter how it seems, it does not belong to them. >>neil: but the republicans are doing it, too, they now are renegotiating what an earmark is and calling it something else and republicans are the ones fighting over how much to cut and having difficulty bridging the gap between the president's $6 billion in planned cuts and their $60 billion, chump change as the debt commission guys said earlier. so, they are as much if not more at fault because they are in charge in the house of representatives. >>guest: i agree, the democrat spending is sinister and the republican spending is no better. we do not have our 18s and this is all the more reason why conservatives have to reengage and understand they still don't get it. this is a violation of the public trust. exactly the thing that franklin was talking about when he said i have giving you a republic. if you can keep it. to keep it you have to have a moral people and this is a violation of that morality. this tells us they still are not listening, and this is a clear directive from the people who are permitting this to happen. what about holder and the department of justice? why isn't this a criminal investigation? the things i read this morning smacked to me of campaign bonus and there is something they should look at. regardless, conservatives have to reengage and stop this ridiculous spending. >>neil: thank you. stay tuned. >> so, ah, your seat good? got the mirrors all adjusted? you can see everything ok? just stay ofth freeways, all right? i don't want you going out on those yet. and leave your phone in your purse, i don't want you texting. >> daddy... ok! ok, here you go. >> thanks dad. >> and call me--but not while u're driving. we knew this day was coming. that's why we bought a subaru. with the velocity of a 1-ghz dual core processor, 3-d graphics engine, gyroscope, and a widescreen hd display. grab it and it grabs you. only at verizon. with professional-grade research. and some of the most powerful, yet easy to use trading tools on the planet. it's investing with intelligence and cold hard conviction. e-trade. investing unleashed.