behaviors it doesn't mean that accusation is shouldn't be looked through thoroughly and found with evidence to be true or not. so -- it is a tough situation both for everyone involved for nbc as a network. >> so katrina we all remember what happened, with billy bush, remember nerks bc leaked the access hollywood tape and billy was pushed out. a lot of people believe matt lauer had a lot to do with pushing billy out there. so there's the politics of that, plus -- hillary clinton according to ronan pharaoh may have had one of her people helped -- killed by kind of not cooperating with a piece to make sure nbc was quiet with the weinstein deal. you know nbc has a relationship with clinton big boosters they give chelsea huge salary to do basically nothing. how tow look at the politics of nbc? e >> well we also know that hillary clinton had a relationship with harvey