witnesses end up hurting their case? >> that is a huge mystery to me because i can promise you i knew what my witnesses were goapg say occasionally a witness will surprise use on witness stand but usually they'll tell you something you've never heard before they don't contradict story they told you pre-trial so when testified that he raised his gun at rittenhouse and that disputed the testimony that he had given to the police when he said he didn't have his gun, why did the prosecutor put him on witness stand? one of the stores was a lie. either he lost the gun before the encounter, of course, as we know as video shows, he had gun in his hand and was pointing it at rittenhouse. how did prosecutors not know that in advance and they should have never put him on witness stand because he looked like someone the jury couldn't trust and i think to john's point this was a real great example of the jury kind of ignoring what prosecutor was saying and actually listening to judge's