here's what came on -- i swear, this is what happened, but i turned the radio on. having fun, and having fun because i'm not take myself too seriously, but it's serious. i turn on the radio it says ♪♪ i'll build a stairway to paradise ♪ ♪ with a new stepy every day ♪♪ what! it's another one! wait a minute! what's going on here? anyway, i had that kind of thing going on for several days, you know, things were happening to me, and then i started -- i was kind of drawn to certain things from that point on and i've had many, many experiences, but that was -- that was the beginning. >> tucker: so that's the moment when you realize that god is real, knows who, and is on your side. >> right. >> tucker: what were the applications of i that? >> well, i had to straighten out if i'm going to be a vessel for