acrossas an inspirational figur. i don't think by the way, i can give a litany of things he's accomplished and obviously the your laid out things that have not worked obv well fr him. but there's somethingng else to how many people do you talk to when they say he seems old and i mean those in ages say he doesn't and it really started with afghanistan where he just didn't seem to have his hand firmly on the wheel. and i think a lot of this has to do with the messenger versus the messages itself. he doesn't feel in charge. >> no, wait a second. now you're telling us that joe biden doesn't quote seem to have his hand firmly on the wheel. really? you sure we're talking aboutut the same president here? wasn't this the guy who not so s long ago was challenging strangers' a push up contest at town halls? this is the guy who's single handedly rescued nelson mandela from the of robben island this the man who faced down corn pop with a chain at a public swimming pool. now you're saying that man