hand was forced. >>tucker: yeah. things were going in such a direction where i was like yeah, man, i don't, i don't know you be? again, i talk to people who live in, um, all the freedom lovers who are in there in places like australia right now, it's a bad situation. you can't leave the country. >>tucker: yeah. >> i mean, that in itself, it's one thing - - >>tucker: you can't leave. >> they can't leave the country. you can't come in, you can't coe in. it's gone back to being a penal colony. >>tucker: why is that better than cuba? better beaches? this is the thing and you know it's also been revealed that a lot of people don't value libery and freedom. >>tucker: no. perhaps in the way that we thought that they did or people claimed to. i think now you're seeing that, yeah, i've always had a suspicin that really people value safety and security or at least the illusion of it more than freedom and liberty. that's really proven to be the case. everything that's gone onen, every authoritarianism or