and since we are not going to be able to avoid the virus, somebody is going to contracted eventually, it seems like we are ignoring all the data, things we can do to improve an immune system besides a vaccine anded focusing only on that and trying to avoid virus, which isn't avoidable. >> tucker: i mean, our whole response seems predicated on the belief that we can avoid it, that you can hide from it forever. you arere saying that we can't. >> well, this virus, like every other respiratory virus, has animal reservoirs and in all the history of medicine we've only eradicated one virus, and that was smallpox, which had no animal reservoirs, it only affected humans. because some of those animals are actually domestic animals, there is just no way to escape the virus. this is why we can't escape influenza or the common cold. the focus in this manifested in his mind after reading all the literature is since it doesn't appear we have very good steps we can take that evener do anything in viral avoidance in most circumstances, certainly not in the general population, is there any consensus that masks were, the data is very murky on this, it seems to me focusing on immune system improve and whether through a